Craig W. only claims to be Satoshi, because he knows the real Satoshi is dead? - page 12.

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Quote from: e1ght on August 23, 2017, 03:59:00 AM

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Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? Roll Eyes

No, he knows that Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever they are, would not risk communicating with the world ever again. (its kinda obvious why)

To me it's not obvious. Please explain.

Well according to some blockchain analysts, Satoshi is sitting on billions of US dollars worth of Bitcoin.
If I was them, I wouldn't risk any possibility of being traced. This includes making a post on the internet or really doing anything online that involves that username.

So you would never spend a satoshi from your wealth and keep hiding? Then what would you do this for?

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Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:43:35 AM

Quote from: e1ght on August 23, 2017, 03:41:14 AM

Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:20:06 AM

Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? Roll Eyes

No, he knows that Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever they are, would not risk communicating with the world ever again. (its kinda obvious why)

To me it's not obvious. Please explain.

Well according to some blockchain analysts, Satoshi is sitting on billions of US dollars worth of Bitcoin.
If I was them, I wouldn't risk any possibility of being traced. This includes making a post on the internet or really doing anything online that involves that username.

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Not bad idea, but i think the real reason Craig W. claims to be Satoshi and dare took the risk is he think the real satoshi don't bother to proof that someone isn't satoshi since each time he do that, he could leave information/trace which can be used to track Satoshi.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on August 23, 2017, 03:48:15 AM

Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:20:06 AM

Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? Roll Eyes

His "proof" was just a copy of signature from an early Bitcoin transaction rumored to be made by Satoshi. There's no need for the real Satoshi to come and expose Wright. Craig Wright did it just to get attention, and argument that he is Satoshi is now used by big block trolls to misguide newbies into supporting their shitcoins, which tells us a lot about big blockers. IMO we won't hear about Satoshi again, because his presence would hurt Bitcoin - he wanted decentralized, self-regulating community, which achieves consensus on its own. If he stayed as benevolent dictator, some people would argue that Bitcoin is not really decentralized - kinda like Ethereum is now.

I have no problem with SN hiding and I don't care about his real identity.
Now I do care about people with an obviously great influence on some key figures, that claim to be the creator of Bitcoin and fail to show a proof to their claims.

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Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:20:06 AM

Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? Roll Eyes

His "proof" was just a copy of signature from an early Bitcoin transaction rumored to be made by Satoshi. There's no need for the real Satoshi to come and expose Wright. Craig Wright did it just to get attention, and argument that he is Satoshi is now used by big block trolls to misguide newbies into supporting their shitcoins, which tells us a lot about big blockers. IMO we won't hear about Satoshi again, because his presence would hurt Bitcoin - he wanted decentralized, self-regulating community, which achieves consensus on its own. If he stayed as benevolent dictator, some people would argue that Bitcoin is not really decentralized - kinda like Ethereum is now.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on August 23, 2017, 03:44:21 AM

He was about to give proof that he was the real Satoshi. He once announced that he will move some of Satoshi's coins (which were mined in 2009 and not moved since). But later he went back on his promise, saying that he risked arrest from law enforcement agencies, if he prove that he was the real Satoshi.

Reality is: He can't, because he doesn't have control over any of Satoshi's keys.

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He was about to give proof that he was the real Satoshi. He once announced that he will move some of Satoshi's coins (which were mined in 2009 and not moved since). But later he went back on his promise, saying that he risked arrest from law enforcement agencies, if he prove that he was the real Satoshi.

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Quote from: e1ght on August 23, 2017, 03:41:14 AM

Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:20:06 AM

Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? Roll Eyes

No, he knows that Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever they are, would not risk communicating with the world ever again. (its kinda obvious why)

To me it's not obvious. Please explain.

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Quote from: Taki on August 23, 2017, 03:36:16 AM

Satoshi Satoshi Satoshi How long do we plan to discuss this topic? I suppose till the time when the identity of this person will not be uncovered by BBC or other historical channel. But let's come back to your idea. If so, it may be supposed that it is just profitable to Satoshi to stay incognito and even better that some other person is acting like "yes, Satoshi is me". But let's not forget that Satoshi Nakomoto is just a nik from the internet. Who is behind this nik is a mystery.

Then SN would give his PGP keys to CW to definitely silence the people that wanted a cryptographic proof.

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Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:20:06 AM

Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? Roll Eyes

No, he knows that Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever they are, would not risk communicating with the world ever again. (its kinda obvious why)

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Satoshi Satoshi Satoshi How long do we plan to discuss this topic? I suppose till the time when the identity of this person will not be uncovered by BBC or other historical channel. But let's come back to your idea. If so, it may be supposed that it is just profitable to Satoshi to stay incognito and even better that some other person is acting like "yes, Satoshi is me". But let's not forget that Satoshi Nakomoto is just a nik from the internet. Who is behind this nik is a mystery.

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Quote from: squatter on August 23, 2017, 03:25:42 AM

Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:20:06 AM

Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN.

What proof could he have? I guess he could sign a message using a key from the genesis block, stating that Craig Wright is not Satoshi. Even then, this is not definitive. Control of a private key does not prove your identity. For example, it's possible for "Satoshi" to sign such a message from the genesis block coinbase address key, and for Craig Wright also to sign a message using the same key.

What would that prove?

Control of the early wallets or his original PGP key would be the best as a proof. There is nothing else that could do it better.
If somebody comes up with either one, he would destroy the rest of a good reputation, that Craig Wright might still have.

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Quote from: AGD on August 23, 2017, 03:20:06 AM

Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN.

What proof could he have? I guess he could sign a message using a key from the genesis block, stating that Craig Wright is not Satoshi. Even then, this is not definitive. Control of a private key does not prove your identity. For example, it's possible for "Satoshi" to sign such a message from the genesis block coinbase address key, and for Craig Wright also to sign a message using the same key.

What would that prove?

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Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? Roll Eyes

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