Why do you think that ? satoshi is not dead, Nick szabo is satoshi nakamoto
Nick Szabo helped Craig Wright, 
Topic: Craig W. only claims to be Satoshi, because he knows the real Satoshi is dead? - page 11. (Read 15254 times)
August 23, 2017, 08:05:06 AM
August 23, 2017, 07:56:43 AM
If Craig Wright had the private key to the first block the it's very clear he is Satoshi. What more proof do you need?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNZyRMG2CjA
Some of the conspiracy theories in this thread are plain nutty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNZyRMG2CjA
Some of the conspiracy theories in this thread are plain nutty
August 23, 2017, 07:46:08 AM
Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof? 
It's not a new idea. I posted this theory months ago. 
August 23, 2017, 07:37:56 AM
Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?
Of course that's the case.
https://seebitcoin.com/2016/05/everything-makes-sense-if-david-kleiman-was-satoshi-nakamoto-heres-why/
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There is good reason to believe Kleiman and Wright knew each other well. Wright posted an emotional tribute to Kleiman on YouTube (since removed) upon learning of his death. It is entirely possible that Wright was a trusted friend and confidante of Kleiman’s, and this might have given him access to information that ‘only Satoshi could have known’ that would have been useful when Craig Wright convinced Gavin Andresen of his legitimacy.
Makes sense, but why did they set up this obv. failed proof show with Gavin then?
Write probably had only one or two keys from real Satoshi and he hoped that convincing Gavin using those keys was the only ultimate stunt that would make it much easier to convince rest of the world. Hence he decided to 'trick' Gavin, but things didn't go as intended.
https://seebitcoin.com/2016/05/heres-how-craig-wright-probably-tricked-gavin-andresen/
He had no keys from Satoshi. Otherwise he would have successfully proven his false identity and the discussion was over.
Sidenote: you saw CW at the presentation the other day, where he was talking utter nonsense? This guy is definitely not Satoshi.
August 23, 2017, 07:24:48 AM
Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?
Of course that's the case.
https://seebitcoin.com/2016/05/everything-makes-sense-if-david-kleiman-was-satoshi-nakamoto-heres-why/
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There is good reason to believe Kleiman and Wright knew each other well. Wright posted an emotional tribute to Kleiman on YouTube (since removed) upon learning of his death. It is entirely possible that Wright was a trusted friend and confidante of Kleiman’s, and this might have given him access to information that ‘only Satoshi could have known’ that would have been useful when Craig Wright convinced Gavin Andresen of his legitimacy.
Makes sense, but why did they set up this obv. failed proof show with Gavin then?
Write probably had only one or two keys from real Satoshi and he hoped that convincing Gavin using those keys was the only ultimate stunt that would make it much easier to convince rest of the world. Hence he decided to 'trick' Gavin, but things didn't go as intended.
https://seebitcoin.com/2016/05/heres-how-craig-wright-probably-tricked-gavin-andresen/
August 23, 2017, 07:06:15 AM
Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?
I have also thought this before. Craig Wright was definitely involved somehow in Bitcoin early on. He must know something about Satoshi being dead. Some believe in the Dave Kleiman theory.
I think Craig Wright is an US government psyOPs and he knows for a fact they got Satoshi either locked up somewhere or killed. He wouldn't indeed being rendered a fool if the real Satoshi came back and moved some coins or something.
August 23, 2017, 06:58:10 AM
He was about to give proof that he was the real Satoshi. He once announced that he will move some of Satoshi's coins (which were mined in 2009 and not moved since). But later he went back on his promise, saying that he risked arrest from law enforcement agencies, if he prove that he was the real Satoshi.
Reality is: He can't, because he doesn't have control over any of Satoshi's keys.
It is quite possible. Some $4 billion worth of Bitcoins are locked up in Satoshi's wallets. I hope that the private keys are lost forever. Else, if someone dumps all that coins in a short period of time, the exchange rates can crash.
August 23, 2017, 06:47:22 AM
or perhaps he just knows the real satoshi will never reveal himself, which is a pretty good bet.
SN doesn't need to reveal himself to prove CW a lying bastard.
August 23, 2017, 06:39:55 AM
or perhaps he just knows the real satoshi will never reveal himself, which is a pretty good bet.
August 23, 2017, 05:55:41 AM
Why do you think that ? satoshi is not dead, Nick szabo is satoshi nakamoto
August 23, 2017, 05:49:13 AM
what would we get from knowing the truth on who really is satoshi, i mean were not going to be a media interviewing him and knowing about everything including the name of his dog(if he even have one).
I think it would be better if we dont know the real identity of satoshi, it makes him much more cooler.
I think it would be better if we dont know the real identity of satoshi, it makes him much more cooler.
August 23, 2017, 05:44:13 AM
Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?
All I'm thinking of is all the bitcoins Satoshi have. Goodness, he cant die before we see movement in those wallets. It would be a bummer if he is really dead.
August 23, 2017, 05:34:12 AM
Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?
No, he knows that Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever they are, would not risk communicating with the world ever again. (its kinda obvious why)To me it's not obvious. Please explain.
If I was them, I wouldn't risk any possibility of being traced. This includes making a post on the internet or really doing anything online that involves that username.
So you would never spend a satoshi from your wealth and keep hiding? Then what would you do this for?
The gov. should know (as Satoshi should also know btw), that he can't change the bitcoin system to a gov friendly system. It will not be accepted by the Bitcoin community. He has one voice as every developer has. He wouldn't be in danger only because he created a code he can't change anymore. He might be in danger because of the potential money that he holds, but a burn address would delete this problem as well.
It's possible they just don't want to have to deal with the issues that arise after burning is done (and they reveal their identity w/ proof).
August 23, 2017, 04:57:56 AM
Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?
No, he knows that Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever they are, would not risk communicating with the world ever again. (its kinda obvious why)To me it's not obvious. Please explain.
If I was them, I wouldn't risk any possibility of being traced. This includes making a post on the internet or really doing anything online that involves that username.
So you would never spend a satoshi from your wealth and keep hiding? Then what would you do this for?
The gov. should know (as Satoshi should also know btw), that he can't change the bitcoin system to a gov friendly system. It will not be accepted by the Bitcoin community. He has one voice as every developer has. He wouldn't be in danger only because he created a code he can't change anymore. He might be in danger because of the potential money that he holds, but a burn address would delete this problem as well.
August 23, 2017, 04:57:39 AM
Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?
1. When Dorian Nakamoto was suspected to be SN, Satoshi Nakamoto's P2P Foundation account posted its first message in five years, stating: "I am not Dorian Nakamoto."
At a similar time, theymos also made a thread claiming to have received a suspicious email from satoshi's email account.
These services are things that are relatively easy to hack if you're talking about a major figure. Satoshi did not sign a message with his post about not being Dorian Nakamoto.
In the past, plenty of other people have made similar claims without reasonable proof. Without basically torturing him, there's no way to tell what Craig Wright knows. But it's an interesting piece of speculation for sure.
August 23, 2017, 04:57:21 AM
We will never know if CW is really Satoshi. Even if he WOULD have moved Satoshi's coins - that doesn't prove anything, the private key might have been stolen and stuff.
Anyway, even if he is Satoshi, what does it change? Satoshi has morphed into so many new identities over the years, that it doesn't matter so much who was the real person behind that name
Anyway, even if he is Satoshi, what does it change? Satoshi has morphed into so many new identities over the years, that it doesn't matter so much who was the real person behind that name
August 23, 2017, 04:53:00 AM
Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?
No, he knows that Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever they are, would not risk communicating with the world ever again. (its kinda obvious why)To me it's not obvious. Please explain.
If I was them, I wouldn't risk any possibility of being traced. This includes making a post on the internet or really doing anything online that involves that username.
So you would never spend a satoshi from your wealth and keep hiding? Then what would you do this for?
August 23, 2017, 04:49:34 AM
Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?
Of course that's the case.
https://seebitcoin.com/2016/05/everything-makes-sense-if-david-kleiman-was-satoshi-nakamoto-heres-why/
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There is good reason to believe Kleiman and Wright knew each other well. Wright posted an emotional tribute to Kleiman on YouTube (since removed) upon learning of his death. It is entirely possible that Wright was a trusted friend and confidante of Kleiman’s, and this might have given him access to information that ‘only Satoshi could have known’ that would have been useful when Craig Wright convinced Gavin Andresen of his legitimacy.
Makes sense, but why did they set up this obv. failed proof show with Gavin then?
August 23, 2017, 04:43:41 AM
Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?
1. When Dorian Nakamoto was suspected to be SN, Satoshi Nakamoto's P2P Foundation account posted its first message in five years, stating: "I am not Dorian Nakamoto."
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/satoshi-nakamotos-p2p-foundation-profile-makes-a-reply-504715
2. Before CW, many people have been suspected to be SN, but apart from CW not one claimed that they were Satoshi and he miserably failed at proving this claim.
Now Satoshi could have posted a similar message on P2P foundation about CW, but he didn't. Why? Assumptions, maybe SN is dead and CW knows about it, maybe computer forensics analyst David Kleiman was SN. CW made a fool of himself and SN let a fool remain a fool, why correct a fool
Satoshi had always wanted to remain anonymous and suddenly one day CW claiming himself to be Satoshi and wanting publicity, failing to provide any public cryptographic proof, too much of a stretch.
CW would remain an impersonator until he proves otherwise.
August 23, 2017, 04:38:49 AM
Just an idea. If Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi Nakamoto, he would definitely risk the real Satoshi come up with a proof, that Craig is not SN. Is it possible, that CW explicitly knows about the death of the person behind SN, so he can make his claims without backing them up with a proof?
Of course that's the case.
https://seebitcoin.com/2016/05/everything-makes-sense-if-david-kleiman-was-satoshi-nakamoto-heres-why/
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There is good reason to believe Kleiman and Wright knew each other well. Wright posted an emotional tribute to Kleiman on YouTube (since removed) upon learning of his death. It is entirely possible that Wright was a trusted friend and confidante of Kleiman’s, and this might have given him access to information that ‘only Satoshi could have known’ that would have been useful when Craig Wright convinced Gavin Andresen of his legitimacy.
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