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In the holiday spirit, and to welcome one and all to the wonders of the season.... 
Anyone that greets me in ##Crypto-Kingdom - or in private on freenode up until Dec 25 Midnight with a holiday greeting, will receive a holiday gift from the Prince of NewLiberty (Hint: It won't be 4 calling birds or 6 geese a laying or any leaping lords)!

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The Grand Jubilee

Our Kingdom is now experiencing an unheard-of event, the foreign lands are celebrating a grand Jubilee that in the least civilized of them lasts for 1-2 years, but the more ancient ones have even 12 years of Christmas, starting soon.

The Royal Family is more moderate but will be taking vacations to the countryside, and other events that affect the normal course of business.

The years will change irregularly, maybe even 2 at once. When adding T_MON (or other tabs), add to the last full line, even if the years are not in sync. Building construction year is according to the year its cost was recorded in T_MON.

Many characters are wealthy, and the gold price has doubled in a buying surge during the last week. King has more gold available at increasing prices, and stands ready to buy at decreasing prices.

Land is still a little limited, the Town has some to sell in 2-W and 1-NE but players do not seem to feel a great urge to test the waters and list their land, even at high prices. Inform any of the admins to list the land for sale, even built-up land.

We confirm the rumor that the distant land of Polonia has an exchange where some of our gold might be listed. If it happens, it will be timed to coincide around the release of V.4 playable online version, and the condition is that the existing characters transfer some of their gold there with the intention to sell it. Otherwise the liquidity will not be meaningful.

The quarry managers have not exactly called a strike, but a little like that. They complain that according to the ancient pecking order in the quarries, the Directors will get their office space first, and Professionals the second. Managers are only the third in line, and few quarries have enough HQ to have room for them. In response to a decade of working in temporary conditions, they now call 10 more hours to make changes in quarry inputs, and after that they embark on a holiday lasting for several years. During this time there is nobody to update the inputs.

The quarries will continue to produce stone and salaries will be paid. The worn equipment will be inventoried for the last 4 years soon, so it's good to order a lot, otherwise there is nothing to use during the manager holidays.

If no more HQ space is built, but decent conditions are desired for the sake of manager efficiency, you may use the Management Budget line, which allows them to contract space from the buildings in the 2-C such as the Stone Hotel ***.

Ineffective management is currently resulting in 6-24% losses in stone output across the quarries, and the most efficient manager in optimal conditions works at 75 point mgmt rate, whereas the least efficient in the worst conditions only at 20 point rate.

The geologists announce that only one quarry has hit the hardest stone yet, but many are about to do so. The optimal output in these conditions requires a new, more skilled mode of operation.

If some quarries want to fire the workforce, which is normally not even possible, now is a good opportunity, because the workers leaving for the celebration do accept a 1 extra year of pay if you want to remove them from the payroll. If a quarry site wants to close, there is no extra pay, but the decision is good to do now, lest it may have to wait for an unspecified time with the losses compounding.

Q&A session will be strictly provided to the following quarries only:
- saddam
- iluvbtc
- smooth.

The deadline for all quarry changes is 10 pm GMT and Town Council is meeting at 8:30 pm as normal.

In anticipation of a softened market for stone during the Grand Jubilee, the town will refrain from offering the remaining quarry site for operation now. After we return to normalcy, it will be sold/licensed in a bidding competition, and naturally the ones possessing the knowledge of the interpretation of the secret code are in a huge advantage in assessing the value of the site + operating it.
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How is The Obelisk not yet "Most Esteemed"?

Well the literal answer is, because in 1484 they were voted, and only one could be chosen, the votes of the people were split between the Royal Palace, Cathedral, Obelisk and the Town Hall, and Zech was still living at home, the royal vote tilted the scales.

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It is certainly the Most Esteemed Obelisk, predating even HM's own palace and the Cathedral (both of which also ought be in consideration for VERY esteemed being 100 years since first foundation).

More tourism is needed, and more land, and bigger stuff, for anything to be Very Esteemed. It is a rare honor - Can you list anything in this world that is very something?? I can, the list is not long:

- The very ancient Springs (in 1-NW, the source of all water supply to the city until they are poisoned in 1600 AD);
- The very ancient Duchy (the land on which our city stands, and the reason why King is the first owner of the land (since he was the Duke briefly before becoming King in 1400 AD, and of course still is);
- The very ancient Magus (he is more than 1,000 years old);

Contested:
- All characters except the King who were born in 1300's and remember the time when there was no King in the land.
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Special auction on 800k stone direct from Smooth QC. Price will drop 5 every hour until sold.

Current price 149

144 139 now

SOLD at 139

Darn it. The moment we take our beauty sleep, some important business is missed  Angry
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Could someone list 50 years-old building that could be voted? A public list would benefit anyone.
This is up to 1484:
Source is here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ln1LSQwPajGNMhtQ8LieWKyQ4rgo-Vnr6-NHkx-Ee00/edit#gid=1907295943
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1	Old City Walls
2 Central Obelisk
3 Notre Dame d'Armagnac
4 Royal Palace West Annex (Old Wing)
5 NewLiberty Paving Works
6 Leila's house
7 Lord smooth's town residence
8 Febo's house
9 King's Gardens
10 North Gate and Customs House
11 Dr. Choo's townhouse
12 Royal Palace Central Basement
13 Lord Ale's Square
14 Dame Roopatra's house 1 phase
15 Earl Riccardo's town residence
16 Strengthening of the northern wall
17 Royal Palace Central 1st Floor
18 Wall of d'Armagnac Haw
19 Royal Palace East Annex (servants' quarters)
20 Wall of Forte Spagnolo's Haw
21 Royal Palace Centre Piano Nobile & 3rd Floor
22 Wall of the New Liberty haw
23 Roof of Royal Palace
24 Gilding of the Obelisk
25 The town palace of New Liberty
26 Damoiseau's House
27 The Hung, Drawn, and Quartered
28 Outside The Wall
29 Zenon's Castle
30 The Monero House
31 Lord James' baronial palace
32 Behind the Cathedral
33 West Side Story - initialization
34 Jacket's house + guestrooms
35 Dame Roopatra's tavern
36 The Town Hall
37 Stables for the Hung, Drawn and Quartered
38 Karl Hungus' townhouse
39 N chapelry paving works
40 Barracks #1, citadel works
41 BinaryFate's house
42 Expert Village
43 Baron Ale's townhouse
44 West Side paving & wall
45 Citadel e=4-6
46 Episcopal Palace
47 Quicken's house
48 King's Gardens etc public works
49 Zechariah's guesthouse
50 BlackWidow's house
51 Southwest Wall stronghold
52 Zechariah's guesthouse 4-5 floor
53 The Grand Hotel
54 Lord Luigi's town residence
55 Walls of the haws in SW
56 Town palace for a visiting noble
57 Roopatra's addition
58 Smooth R.E. Headquarters
59 Grand Hotel haw developments 1
60 King's paving works in mainly SW, NW areas
61 Zechariah's guesthouse addition
62 The Old Department Store
63 The Noble Palace
64 The Original Hive (#1/2)
65 Town Hall South Annex
66 Citadel improvements A*
67 Military Sciences Department
68 The Original Hive (#2/2)
69 The Priory House Hotel ****
70 Luigi's Grail and Quail
71 Lord Karl Apt #1
72 Jungherrs Apts
73 Lord Karl Apt #2
74 NE Defence Tower + garrison
75 smooth's 2nd floor
76 Jacket's Palace
76 Luigi's 2nd floor
77 Mama´s tavern 2nd Floor
78 Zechariah's Palace
79 Donjon=Keep of the Citadel=Castle
80 Febo's House

My home is old enough as are many others.  I have some esteem for it.  Quite comfortable and convenient to most of the places I frequent.
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Good things come in three

The Pious Order building is a three-storey high building, with three entrances, one to each floor, one for each tier (apprentice, companion, master). Each floor has several rooms, including a common room for discussion and drinking - Church beer on the first floor, wine on the second and cognac on the third. There are also two gardens: an interior garden accessible through the second floor and a roof garden accessible from the third floor. Also, several rooms on the Pious Order will have the name of the benevolent donator who wishes to show their commitment and be remembered for generations.

It is important to note that holding a level from a tier (or two!) above your own level (and thus be granted access to a litterally higher level, to discuss with a higher crowd) would probably help you ascending the social ladder faster - be it a newcomer willing to boost his reputation or a wealthy merchant entertaining to be ennobled. Of course, nothing is guaranteed but rubbing shoulders with the great and goods certainly helps.

The actual design will be posted later.
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At long last! The Pious Order
A stake-o-cratic fund for the Church
For the centennial of the building of Notre-Dame Cathedral*, we, Bishop of Crypto-Kingdom, open the registration for the Pious Order of the Supplicant (read In hoc signo vinces).
The Pious Order, as originally envisionned, "will comprise any donators to the Church". A building will be found next to the Church office, a magnificent building already designed (and detailled in next post). The Pious Order will gather there for meetings, socializing, networking and developing ideas to further develop the Church and its impact on the kingdom.

The Pious Order will also initiate a much more resilient way to finance ecclesiastical buildings and projects: instead of relying on one wealthy individual (yours truly) for the bulk of spending, buildings and projects will be funded by Pious Order members. If the necessary amount is not reached, then the building or project will not start, or at least not as envisionned.

Such a model will allow the Church to significantly expand its operations as crypto-kingdom expands. Not only it will allow the Church to keep its importance, but it will allows it to further increase the presence of the Almighty in our beloved kingdom.

The Pious Order will comprise 33 levels, grouped into 3 tiers: apprentice, companion and master. Leveks can be bought or can be earned - the higher the level, the harder it is to just buy it.

It is the duty of any believer to donate to the Church according to its means. For the lowest of beggars, 1 monereto is as valuable as several millions are to a wealthy merchant. Both gave according to their possibilities and our Lord remembers this when the time for leaving this imperfect world has come. Secure your afterlife and donate (out of game: people who donate will have some nice bonuses for their next character, once this one dies, which will happen in future version, once dying of old age is implemented).

We wish the Pious Order to be tantamount to communion. As such, the exact working of the Pious Order shall be discussed with you, right now. And as God forgives, the Pious Order will correct himself when it is due to be corrected (out of game: collaborative design and the decisions are not set in stone).

Donation amounts
Below are the proposed donation amounts for each level - keep in mind that we must find the balance between a fair donation and generating enough income to deliver the projects of the Church

Newcomers, established commoners and nobles shall all have access to the Pious order - and it must mean something to them financially, if not they will just pay and forget - there must be some ROI expectation here which will encourage the Pious Order to be something, so the price shall not be negligible, whilst still affordable and this, for everyone.
The latest consideration is this:
Start at the symbolic 1 monereto. Each subsequent level is triple the previous one for the first tier, a quarter higher for the second tier and 10% for the third tier. We expect this to be affordable-yet-noticeable for each targeted group.
It is possible to patron the Church (give one large amount). In concrete terms, this give the specified level for 10 years for only 5 times the cost. Finally, a Grand Patron can obtain a lifetime membership for 20 times the yearly membership - with an expected life expectancy of 60 years, this means a even better discount than the regular patronage. Lifetime membership won't be available before dying of old age is implemented and are not transferable. Thus, a son cannot benefit from the lifetime membership of his parent, although an additional discount might be implemented - but this would encourage concentration of wealth so not sure it will be implemented.
I hesitate between the exact and rounded amounts. Rounded are easier to grasp, but harder to maintain and do not follow a predictable scheme (since they are rounded). I let you decide. Any donation above a level and minus the next level is not counted for membership. For instance, giving 60K moneretoj instead of the required 59049 doesn't give anything in particular; for all matter and purposes, they are "wasted" (although who cares about wasting that few?)
Some honorary levels will be available and it will also be possible to gain a certain level for free for a certain time, as a reward for great actions.
The higher the level, the more influence one will have over the decisions of the Church, in a weighted voting way similar to an otherwordly organisation known as MEW.

The state of the art is:
(https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VyUQafw-65pboojWvels8XcupxbsbIfMPsPG4DMobsg/edit#gid=0)

Code:
Degree   Yearly    Yearly, rded     Decade        Decade, rded     Lifetime    Lifetime, rounded
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Apprentice tier (target: newcomers) - Next level is thrice the previous one, then rounded to the most elegant.
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1            1   |          1   |           5   |          5   |           20   |           20
2            3   |          3   |          15   |         15   |           60   |           60
3            9   |         10   |          45   |         50   |          180   |          200
4           27   |         30   |         135   |        150   |          540   |          600
5           81   |         90   |         405   |        450   |        1 620   |        1 800
6          243   |        250   |       1 215   |      1 250   |        4 860   |        5 000
7          729   |        730   |       3 645   |      3 650   |       14 580   |       14 600
8        2 187   |      2 200   |      10 935   |     11 000   |       43 740   |       44 000
9        6 561   |      6 600   |      32 805   |     33 000   |      131 220   |      132 000
10      19 683   |     20 000   |      98 415   |    100 000   |      393 660   |      400 000
11      59 049   |     60 000   |     295 245   |    300 000   |    1 180 980   |    1 200 000
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Companion tier (target: commoners) - Next level is 125% of the previous one, then rounded to the most elegant.
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12      73 811   |     75 000   |     369 056   |    375 000   |    1 476 225   |    1 500 000
13      92 264   |    100 000   |     461 320   |    500 000   |    1 845 281   |    2 000 000
14     115 330   |    115 000   |     576 650   |    575 000   |    2 306 602   |    2 300 000
15     144 163   |    150 000   |     720 813   |    750 000   |    2 883 252   |    3 000 000
16     180 203   |    180 000   |     901 016   |    900 000   |    3 604 065   |    3 600 000
17     225 254   |    230 000   |   1 126 270   |  1 150 000   |    4 505 081   |    4 600 000
18     281 568   |    290 000   |   1 407 838   |  1 450 000   |    5 631 351   |    5 800 000
19     351 959   |    350 000   |   1 759 797   |  1 750 000   |    7 039 189   |    7 000 000
20     439 949   |    450 000   |   2 199 747   |  2 250 000   |    8 798 987   |    9 000 000
21     549 937   |    550 000   |   2 749 683   |  2 750 000   |   10 998 733   |   11 000 000
22     687 421   |    700 000   |   3 437 104   |  3 500 000   |   13 748 417   |   14 000 000
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Master tier (target: nobles) - Next level is 105% of the previous one, then rounded to the most elegant.
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23     756 163   |    750 000   |   3 780 815   |  3 750 000   |   15 123 258   |   15 000 000
24     831 779   |    850 000   |   4 158 896   |  4 250 000   |   16 635 584   |   17 000 000
25     914 957   |    950 000   |   4 574 786   |  4 750 000   |   18 299 143   |   19 000 000
26   1 006 453   |  1 000 000   |   5 032 264   |  5 000 000   |   20 129 057   |   20 000 000
27   1 107 098   |  1 100 000   |   5 535 491   |  5 500 000   |   22 141 963   |   22 000 000
28   1 217 808   |  1 250 000   |   6 089 040   |  6 250 000   |   24 356 159   |   25 000 000
29   1 339 589   |  1 350 000   |   6 697 944   |  6 750 000   |   26 791 775   |   27 000 000
30   1 473 548   |  1 500 000   |   7 367 738   |  7 500 000   |   29 470 952   |   30 000 000
31   1 620 902   |  1 650 000   |   8 104 512   |  8 250 000   |   32 418 047   |   33 000 000
32   1 782 993   |  1 800 000   |   8 914 963   |  9 000 000   |   35 659 852   |   36 000 000
33   1 961 292   |  2 000 000   |   9 806 459   | 10 000 000   |   39 225 837   |   40 000 000
(once decided, the prices for tier 2 and 3 will be hidden from public, like the famous "please contact us" for premium offers)

So, once again, please react. Amounts to high, to low? At wich levels? Some suggestions how to improve it, more incentives for donation?

* This communiqué is delayed, but the project was done by the centennial
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To be an Esteemed building, it must gather popular support. To be Most Esteemed, a minimum age of 50 years applies, plus popular vote. The ratio (most esteemed:esteemed) is 1:5. Very Esteemed must be 100 years old and win the vote.
There are 6 Esteemed buildings and 1 Most Esteemed building. Assuming a building cannot be degraded, then it appears that in order to get some more most esteemed building, we must first have 4 more esteemed building.

I would vote for the Cathedral and the Obelisk (in that order) to be Most Esteemed, but we shall first promote four buildings to Esteemed. Could someone list 50 years-old building that could be voted? A public list would benefit anyone.
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I vote for Obelisk for Most Esteemed as well.

For Esteemed, Jubilee Theatre and House of Magnificence.
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Smooth QC IPO closed!

IPO has closed at 2.0

The winning bids (all pay 2.0) are:

Lord kronicblazer [email protected]
Haridimous (nuke1989) [email protected]
Lord Paulson (top8) [email protected]
The Prince of OZ [email protected]
Master Hokusai [email protected]


Losing bid:

Master Hokusai [email protected]

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Special auction on 800k stone direct from Smooth QC. Price will drop 5 every hour until sold.

Current price 149

144 139 now

SOLD at 139


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The Obelisk should be most esteemed already.
For esteemed my vote goes to the Theatre.
I liked it very much, but maybe i should walk around more to see all the other magnificent buildings.
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We vote for the Golden Obelisk to become 'Most Esteemed'

We vote for the The House of Royal Magnificence to become 'Esteemed'

Prince of OZ & Master Hokusai
Ale
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Yeah, the Obelisk should be most esteemed already, my vote goes to that one as well. For esteemed my vote goes to the Theatre.
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How is The Obelisk not yet "Most Esteemed"?
Every day when the weather is good we see limners and portraiture artists rendering it as the background for those grand paintings we each hang over our mantles and in our galleries.
This landmark is the most recognizable meeting spot in the Kingdom, its great square a magnificent platform for mummers and players plying their craft for their daily monerito along with mendicant musicians and jesters.  It seems this golden spire has some strange magnetic attraction for talents.  And how often have we heard young lovers planning their first kiss to be in its shadow in order to have the best of luck?  It is said through out the lands that things which begin there will be prosperous.

It is certainly the Most Esteemed Obelisk, predating even HM's own palace and the Cathedral (both of which also ought be in consideration for VERY esteemed being 100 years since first foundation).

The Earl of Soul's new cloud touching embassy also has my esteem.
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Currently

Very esteemed
(none)

Most esteemed
The Royal Palace, 1432-1446

Esteemed
The Golden Obelisk 1430
The Cathedral 1432
The Citadel 1452-u/c
The Town Hall 1454
The Grand Hotel 1464
The Noble Palace 1480

To be an Esteemed building, it must gather popular support. To be Most Esteemed, a minimum age of 50 years applies, plus popular vote. The ratio (most esteemed:esteemed) is 1:5. Very Esteemed must be 100 years old and win the vote.

All the buildings are now candidates to be Esteemed. 2 new ones will be chosen. In addition, one of the existing Esteemed ones will be promoted. Voting is open in the thread! Smiley

Edit:  After some thought - I too am surprised the Obelisk is not most esteemed and change my vote to it.

I vote for it to be added to the Most esteemed.

For the New additions to the Esteemed list:
The 100 Jubilee Theatre
House of Magnificence
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The list of esteemed buildings needs to be updated. Soon the owners of these buildings will also benefit (services pool) from the listing!

Currently

Most esteemed
The Royal Palace, 1432-1446

Esteemed
The Golden Obelisk 1430
The Cathedral 1432
The Citadel 1452-u/c
The Town Hall 1454
The Grand Hotel 1464
The Noble Palace 1480

For Most Esteemed I vote The Golden Obelisk. It has been standing at the center of the Old Town for over a 100 years. It reminds me of the beginnings of the Kingdom when there wasn´t much else except the Obelisk standing in the middle of the square, and it has witnessed all the progress and growth that has happened since those times.

For new esteemed buildings I vote:

100-Jubilee Theatre
House of Magnificence
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Tourism proliferates (again)

The growth rate of tourism (mechanism: money transferred yearly from Town to Services to illustrate the "export of services") is simply astounding. It used to be 50 million per 2 years when the time was halved 10 years ago; now it has climbed to 50 million per year!

The list of esteemed buildings needs to be updated. Soon the owners of these buildings will also benefit (services pool) from the listing!

Currently

Very esteemed
(none)

Most esteemed
The Royal Palace, 1432-1446

Esteemed
The Golden Obelisk 1430
The Cathedral 1432
The Citadel 1452-u/c
The Town Hall 1454
The Grand Hotel 1464
The Noble Palace 1480

To be an Esteemed building, it must gather popular support. To be Most Esteemed, a minimum age of 50 years applies, plus popular vote. The ratio (most esteemed:esteemed) is 1:5. Very Esteemed must be 100 years old and win the vote.

All the buildings are now candidates to be Esteemed. 2 new ones will be chosen. In addition, one of the existing Esteemed ones will be promoted. Voting is open in the thread! Smiley

Esteemed building to Most Esteemed = The Noble Palace 1480

New Esteemed = The House of Royal Magnificence 1530
                        The 100 Jubilee Theatre 1504
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