Topic: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) - page 51. (Read 632720 times)

Yes thank you that makes perfect sense now. I knew xmr was the main currency just inside if the ingsme currency was still worth xmr or not and Noe I see that it is which is what I wanted. I think less serious games have seperste currencies although you can sometimes buy and sell. Bit in cryptokingdom you dont have to sorry about it.

I will admit though I most have played the "action fast paced and fancy graphic type RPGs" like wow and such. I'm talking about what was said in the beginner guide about if the names suited for you. But I use to play tabletop d & d and consider that roleplaying more then games. Games are great but you can't do what you want. Although elder scrolls does an amazing job especially since players can create stories for others to enjoy in the form of quests.

Cryptokingdom is pretty much like a pen and paper RPG about life and living in an economy. You use your imagination as you would reading a good book. I can see a lot of thought has been taken into making this game. I also am open minded to anything even if it sounds crap at first.

                                          
                                             Approximately 7 hours from now. Bring your ideas, opinions, arguments and proposals.

M is the in-game currency. XMR is what you deposit into and withdrawal from the game (instead of euro or dollars like most games).

1,000,000m = 1xmr on deposit or withdrawal. Does that make more sense?

And welcome to the game!

The land and property says its 1milliom M wtf is M ? I know its currency but is a million of is 1 xmr ? There limited amounts or what ?

I want a house and land for 1xmr but I will only get it after the weekend when I'm paid. I dont want to miss out I'm new and have no odes what is going on I just see some opportunity here to make profits while I have fun and increase the value of the xmr and altcoin community.

For the New Players there is this housing deal for just 1 XMR, it is a 100 sqm of land with a small house,  a good starting home:
(There is more land for sale in the open market, but nothing this cheap)

--Gold can be smelted down/up to https://cryptokingdom.me/marketplace/item/HM02B100 as that's the main gold commodity trading unit. All gold items can be smelted to this unit by me, the King (Notice: a fee is applied to discourage the smelting of ancient items) or be applied to an existing ITEM by one of the Admin or converted to jewelry by the Master Goldsmith https://cryptokingdom.me/jewelry/new.

--Shares, may or may not yield a dividend; if they do produce a dividend, it is usually done as the funds become available, and usually not, on a game-year/week-to-week basis.

--You don't need to convert to XMR to buy anything in the game, everything is denominated in m/M, with one million m being the equivalent to 1XMR.

Great questions, BTW.

This is....done.

See what I mean ? I didn't even know the game was paused. I have these gold bars I got once a week in real time. I think its a year in game time. Do I melt them to make other things PR are they just a commodity ? I also have 9 shares is something but how do I know what the shares give me ? I just want to know what to buy for when the game resumes. Also is there a way to convert that in game currency into xmr ? I need xmr to buy a property. I think 10-20 xmr is good ?

Right now time is paused in the game while some new stuff is worked on so there is not salary or dividends.
The best thing to do without any salary is to deposit and play the markets or play the lot hunt game and sell the winnings in the market (like you have learned to do)

Join IRC ##crypto-kingdom on Freenode and ask any questions in realtime there.
https://webchat.freenode.net/

Unregistered a few months ago and imstsrted playing now only. It is so confusing. I finally know how to make !y way around the map and claim from the lotto but now what ? How Tomi get a salary every week ? Does it happen automatically ? What items can I buy for divendents and how do I know how much they pay out ?

My mind is split between two options for a corporate account--the account was meant to provide funding for senate initiatives, but seeing as the GM was generous enough to give Town Corp to the Senate, the new account can be used for most anything.

My first thought was to make it a general transportation fund that would take donations to make sure that roads, shipbuilding, and exploration were being handled on a continual basis. The main idea being that transport improves military and commercial interest while allowing the Kingdom to expand at a fluid pace--all good things that should be continually funded and upgraded.

My second thought is to showcase the game's funding capabilities through the funding of a little known cause that would benefit as much from our success as we would form theirs.

An example would be something like the Crazy Horse Memorial, which has an extended deadline and ambitions that take it far beyond the initial centerpiece--much like our own cause. https://crazyhorsememorial.org/

Thoughts? Suggestions?

--HMC_

GM Zechariah has now allocated the distribution of prizes in the Coin Contest of 1650 as follows:


With the above prize distribution, it now comes down into optimizing your scoring performance (Note: Zech seemed to favor Historian!):


TBA: Breakdown of layman and/or more mathematical perspective of the formulae


Important note checklist:

• The competition Google Sheet is live at (use it to optimize your score!): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tgIzgMza7NQsTpMO9pHke1ZVXYH7l5Sj5bHdZHItivo/edit#gid=1676681405
• The scoring formulas have been implemented and are open for all to see in the above sheet (and update automatically if somebody enters coins to their particular ID)
• After giving it a lot of though, I have decided to abstain myself from the competition due to conflict of interest. I've collected a lot and have designed the formulae, so I thought it would be unfair. Besides, I'm one of the first of the 1600+ era players to collect, and the scoring favors (i) high char ID (I have relatively high), (ii) Subconciously what I like about coin collecting (Hint! My favorite WAS Historian, and now that Zech decided to give it the most weight I feel have too much of an edge; hint hint!)
• Everybody else is automatically included (excluding dead characters and corporations)
• Sweeping/loaning/temporary transfering to higher ID (newer) characters is considered cheating and will be through-outly examined upon closure of competition. Play on your main, please! Do not try to cheat!
• Best way to focus on a collection type is to (i) Understand and play around with a formula; (ii) Focus on a coin type GOC/SIC/COT. These can be accessed e.g.: https://cryptokingdom.me/marketplace/SIC
• Multiple participants in each of the 9 categories will be awarded; notice that due to square root of user ID new players have excellent chances of e.g. top 3!
• Like GM Zech mentioned above, remember that the collection is not a one-time shot! It'll stay on you, it'll continue to accumulate and we hold these competitions every 25 years (plus you of course have access to the markets of rare collectibles).
• We still highly encourage donations to the prize pool (ShortID CoinContest, charID 160). Inversely, one can always inspect live how big the prize pool is (and through transaction log who has donated what): https://cryptokingdom.me/player/playerItems/160
• Competition will end on November 5th, UTC 3 PM

Any questions or concerns will be answered in separate posts, but above list will be updated accordingly.

Happy collecting! Markets are bulging with hidden prizes

Kind regards,
Marquess of the Maple Leaf

SETTING NEW BIDS AND ASKS FOR KING'S CORPS

Yesterday I entered "cancelall allxxx" in King Corp's account and erased all bids and asks--feels good to start the process of creating my own asks and bids. Though some of the stuff seems impossible to price at the moment, I'm doing my best to get through everything by the end of the weekend and have it out of the way as we get closer to the Dragon Quest. I filled a few bids yesterday and tried to mark my asks at a fair market value or at least to get the other market makers a "fairer" wall to aim below--hopefully, the effort results in asks more in-line with bids and invigorates the smaller, but oftentimes more unique, markets that make the game so interesting and fun to play.



From office of HMC_

I've been mostly concerned with setting ask prices, but STO1 at 10X the amount, but 1/3rd my pre-pause price was a great value that I scooped up and doubled my holdings for 1/4 to 1/5 of the old price

SENATE MEETING

Meting will be held at normal time Wed 3:00pm UTC.

Please feel free to join and add any suggestions,

concerns, or vote on the IRC channel ##SENATE.



From office of HMC_

General Platform Investments(easy difficulty, simple operation):

These would include CK, S-HODL and MKA.  These are markets based on the overall health of a platform. CK is the CryptoKingdom game-share. When you invest in CK, you are investing in the overall health of the game itself. S-HODL reinvests dividends of CK back into CK--so it should evolve into a very big player as its ever increasing dividend power can set the tone for markets in the future--especially if private holders aren't careful to adjust their positions or give into increased selling pressure. MKA is an outside-the-game economy share. I'm still learning about MKA, but my understanding is that it will be a dividend yielding share in the MK economic platform. MK News can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pre-ann-peoples-mark-basic-income-local-currency-in-finland-launch-oct2016-1634781

Company Assets(variable difficulty, simple operation):

These are in-game companies that trade shares in the game. I gave them a variable difficulty-to-learn; as getting to know what the company produces and who runs the company may take some leg work on your part. Some companies have static variables, while others are in turf wars with competing companies, the operation has been simple thus far as there isn't any heavy maintenance costs due to volatile pricing. If you are familiar with stock markets, this should be pretty easy to navigate.

Consumables/Wisdom Assets(easy difficulty, variable operation):

CAN, MUS, SHI and AYA make up the easiest to learn of the consumables. They have static properties and rarely is a new ITEM added that would cause the market to change much in either direction--but what they lack in variables, they make up for in price action. CAN markets see the most action and act more like a currency than something you smoke, but the others are prone to wild swings in value as well--mainly based on production share returns being dumped or new challenges that utilize limited stocks of wisdom product as points basis.

Consumables/Distilled Beverages(moderate difficulty and moderate operation):

While the health produced by distilled beverages is constant, the addition of a new brand will weigh down your position if you are stocked too heavy or are priced too high--so watching the progressions of older stocks is a must to get a feel for how this market works.

Consumables/Wine(variable difficulty and variable operation):

Most wines have peak dates and can be unloaded for a nice profit around those times, but it's important to keep tabs on new wines entering the market and old wines suddenly being cut in price as these factors can force you to react to a volatile market situation. Other factors to watch are....

Coins

*establishing: Difficulty as how-easy-to-learn the fundamentals within the framework of the game. Operation would be the cost of maintenance to the player (time, money, ect.,.). I think these terms allow for the player to establish their own rates without worrying about the effectiveness of other players/teams or the pointless hassle of creating a universal base line--the more personal the better when managing market making score--individual markets should define their baselines as their effectiveness rating's can wildly fluctuate within variable sets over the course of minutes within a tightly contested market--IE DOM ain't CAN and CAN ain't SHI.

Furthermore, we had the following discussion on IRC tonight:


In my books, this would also be similar behaviour to id-swapping as questioned by papa above, thus I hope we do not see this sort of "lending & sharing loot"-type of behaviour.

Thumb rule: The very idea of this competition is to get old chaps excited again about coins, and to get a whole bunch of newcomers who compete to build a comprehensive (or hint: specialized!) collection of their own. Prizes aside (to which newcomers have excellent chances), please use your moral compass in whatever matter might fight against this thumb rule.

If you have questions, concerns or practical suggestions, I'm open for anything. Feel free to /query Syksy at freenode or PM me here, and thanks all for your interest in the competition

Best regards,
Marquess of the Maple Leaf, Syksy Syyskuu

This a good question and a legitimate concern, but there are automated methods for detecting such outliers and I did already consider this aspect. Like I stated above:


If there is any suspicion that such action has occurred, there will be investigation and corresponding penalty (decided by GM I'd say). Such behaviour has been challenging to define exactly for example during NPCC competitions (where does the borderline go with your NPCC and your other chars?), but here it's easier to detect. Play on your main and you're safe; try to cheat and you'll be put to a risk that is not worth it.

But this has been acknowledged. if need be, transaction logs can be examined for outlierish, out of proportion GIVE/TRANSFER/SELL/BUY behaviour. Safest way to prevent SELL/BUY-rigging is by having marketmaking for all coins, so get there to do business people!

In technical terms, I can do automated outlier and sensitivity analysis of unusual coin-related transactions from the transaction log during this period and examine their prior history to the declaration of the Coin Contest, define a commonly used statistical threshold (rising e.g. from analysis of biological data) and use this as an objective criterion for identifying a potential cheater. I do hope I don't need to go this far though. In reality, it is hard to say what is borderline lucky new fella doing good deals, and who is a disguised alt, but this is an issue with any incentive we'd use for newer players. I'm doing everything in my power to prevent this, and the penalty for such action - if caught - will be set so high that it'll just not be worth trying it.

What prevents an entrepreneurial guy (aka smartass) from creating a new char and sweep all his coins from his earlier char in order to score higher? 

Three law enactments: the Admin Salary (law #2), the Naming Conventions (law #3) and the New Player Housing (law #4), have now been properly posted at the CK Archives:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616976.new#new

On behalf of the Senate,
Marquess of the Maple Leaf, Syksy Syyskuu

Dear all,

after discussing with GM Zechariah since posting last formulae, I have adjusted the coin scoring formulae as below. In short, there is now a coefficient, that your score will be weighted by the square root of your character ID; that's right! User ID 4 receives 2-fold scoring, ID 100 receives 10-fold scoring, ID 484 receives 22-fold scoring et cetra. Numerous other small modifications have also been conducted. Now's your opportunity to shine and a perfect chance to start a collection! We already have much more than 100 XMR+ in prizes to give out.


You may experiment with the scoring at the ready Google Sheet with examples at:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tgIzgMza7NQsTpMO9pHke1ZVXYH7l5Sj5bHdZHItivo/edit#gid=1676681405
(Notice that the scoring may be a bit slow, as it's a huge google sheet; it may take a few seconds before the score is updated after adding new coins to the bottom-right table)

Proposed formulation of the scoring functions:

• The Cornerer focuses on trying to own maximal % of the whole mintage of a coin, thus cornering ownership. (Squared weighting on % of owned per total mintage).
• The Historian focuses on trying to own at least 1 instance of each coin that was minted during an era. (Squared weighting of at least 1 owned per amount of unique coins minted during the era).
• The Hoarder is the classic "I want it all, as big and shiny as can be!"; Owned number of coins multiplied with its gold/silver/copper content is the main focus.
  

Notice that all coins are weighted by the square root of distance from the reference year 1650, making older coins usually more beneficial; however this also depends on mintage, weight, etc...

Notice that we are essentially competing in 9 different subcategories:
- The Cornerer for GOC, SIC and COT separately;
- The Historian for GOC, SIC and COT separately;
- The Historian for GOC, SIC and COT separately.
This is to allow different types of tactics and approaches. You don't need to win all subcategories to be eligible for prizes, but instead we seek to have as many happy collectors as possible.


The above presented formulae are open for criticism, but if nobody objects within 3 days of this post, I will assume that I have the consent of the community to proceed with these formulae. Remember that I am already an established collector, but I attempted to be as objective and fair towards all parties in formulating this competition.

Also, remember that we continue to pledge for prize donations to the user CoinContest (userID 160), especially from those who are readily established players. Anything will be accepted and properly credited once the competition is over, albeit items that can be easily liquidated (e.g. CK or HM02B100 or straight out XMR/Monereto) are preferable.


Remember also that the contest has been set to end on November 5th. I am myself halting from all coin purchases from few days before and after this post, as I just formulated these, in order to not gain any kind of insight advantage. You can add your own coin collection to your ID to play around with your score, but I will wipe the bottom-right table when I freeze and enter the real coin ownership on Nov 5th.

Please also note, that due to the nature of the incentive of the ID-based rewards for newer players, it's considered cheating if you create a new account to compete with it. Please use your main character which you normally use, as the nature of the competition will also most likely include badges, honorary titles et cetra.

EDIT: Please also note, that sweeping coins to an already existing, higher ID-alt is also prohibited. Just don't do it, it's not worth it. Transaction logs can be used to detect such outlierish behaviour.

Best regards,
Marquess of the Maple Leaf, Syksy Syyskuu