Topic: CryptoKingdom Uncensored - page 17. (Read 69479 times)

It's not a new concept. It is still a medieval simulation. It will still be the same CK at its core, and at minimum the maps/lands/properties are being moved over. Most definately CANnabis too! And we have to keep the FOIE gras I'd say!  

Really, I think how the game was structured pre-Ultima deserves a solid look. Yes, some aspects like the NPC consumption and STOne creation need to be automated (rather than worked on in a spreadsheet), but looking back on the thread and game history at the time, it looked like overall it was a "tighter" game design. Once Ultima came online, Risto kept adding modules and items that ultimately had no point as it was easier to do so.

Additionally, there is a lot of crypto history (specifically XMR-based) in CK: just look at all the names of the properties. Like David Latapie's land is still in CK. He had a lot to do with the early founding of XMR and he's unfortunately no longer with us. I think it's worth carrying this sort of lineage forward.

Overall, there is still a kingdom  

I still think a fork with a new concept needs to be something completely new. Not CK anymore. Why even use the name CryptoKingdom if there is no King / Kingdom? Why not take a new name and just buy the Agora Market database / setup from CK and then fill it up with new charming items?

CK as a kingdom can then go on with the effort of Speed, our King and others willing to work out the debt thing.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23313528

Would recommend everyone taking a look at this post as well. Since I'm in favor of a full relaunch and rethinking of all CK in-game items, I believe it's worth seeing how we can more closely pair with encryptedcharm's card attributes and stats.

For example, card types seem more or less the same as what we have now, with some additional sub classifications (such as "book" being a subgroup of "item"). And many of those sub classifications may be removed in the relaunch.

The elemental classifications (air, water, plant, spirit, earth, metal, and fire) are interesting and this is also an area I feel could be integrated in the game's items. For example, perhaps these elements could be associated with item attributes. Say "air" items help increase "wisdom" and "earth" items increase "health".

5 tiers of item rarity? Weren't we already working through that in simplifying the NPC system? And of course we can still have "uniques" outside of the 5 item tiers for say plots of land, precious works of art, etc. AP/Katie: we already have some silver and gold unicorns in CK that went for hundreds and thousands of XMR that are just dying for cards/tokenization!

I know it's the holidays, but let's start cracking on concepts here! I was very impressed at how the 40k AEON rebase campaign went, and I am sure we can get similar enthusiasm going here!

Surely it will moon to 30k xmr 

Karl Hungus owns ~10% of M, so maybe he still makes his money back when CK moons one day

This could be a game saving boost for CK, Aeon is a truly great coin, the synergies from a collaboration would be awesome, amazing offer too @AP airdropping tokens from your card token game, really appreciated !!

If you are guys did this, I would be a huge contributer to the tune of many tens of thousands of Aeon no matter what.  
  
Super optionally, As well, I have an upcoming (fairly distributed with me having no advantage) Counterparty asset coming out soon.  If you were willing to incorporate these custom magical tokens into the game, I would be happy to airdrop a significant amount of the base token into the hands of players.  It's going to be basically a retro fantasy version of the rarepepedirectory.com cards.

Here's a couple of sample cards from Series One.  In series two we allow users to submit their own cards.  Actual in game effects of these tokens would be left up to the game programmers as it is outside my area of expertise.  But a relaunch of CK for Aeon with some secondary layer custom cryptographic assets (that can't be taken away or fall in value even in the worst cases) would be awesome.  This might be a pipe dream though, as it would require BOTH Aeon integration and reading signed tx from Counterparty assets (to assure that the player actually owned an asset).  One day would be amazing to do this natively on Aeon, but at the moment second layers with custom assets only exist on the bitcoin blockchain.  

 


 

As we have a lot of user overlap with XMR/AEON, I am sure several of you have seen this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/7laim2/20000_aeon_rebase_bountydev_contract_possibly/

I am thinking of doing something similar for CK and introducing it to the AEON community since the bounty will be paid in AEON.

This doesn't necessarily mean that M will be pegged to AEON, but we could certainly have AEON as a major exchange/depository relationship and any additional deposit/withdrawal transactions that the game can provide for AEON will certainly help increase the body of transactions for use in RingCT and the like.

If Speed or someone else wants to prepare a more defined proposal for a CK relaunch, please share it here for public comment.

Yes. People other than PJ have access to the private CK github/codebase. A private repo should be cloned and given to trusted alternative parties. Then, another repo should be pushed to public view with any sensitive information (like email addresses/IPs/etc.), hidden/removed.

This way, any interested developers can see the code without having to access the private CK slack and ask. As a matter of fact, CK should never of had a completely private slack. A private dev channel on the slack, fine, but people should be able to add themselves automatically to the CK slack without needing to contact anyone. Many other coins/projects have this self-service add feature.

If PJ or someone needs a fee for the private and public code repo stuff I have just outlined to happen, I will pay. But it won't be moronic Risto's "mad money" developer payments. ;P

Just want to remind everyone that PJ was paid at least 10k XMR around April of 2017 by Risto to work on CK. May have even been more (changelog wouldn't go back far enough for me to check). This is in addition to monthly payments from Risto for most of the life of this project. XMR was around $20 then, so that is $200k. Enough to live comfortably for a few years where PJ is located.

At current XMR prices, it is $4 million!

And what did Risto get for his money? NOTHING!

P.S. I don't care if PJ wasted his money. He had $200k in hand. He was given enough early this year to work for several years on this project. And if he had kept any of his XMR, rather than being a fool and going straight to Dubai once he was paid to blow it, he would probably still have hundreds of thousands of dollars in multiples. 

I would prefer to get as many of the old guard in favor of actually getting something going. Or maybe they don't want to be a part and/or are busy trading other shitcoins? I mean I had oldster SirJacket dump out almost all his M yet again on me: which is cool, I wanted 110bil M, just didn't expect to see SirJacket as the dumper

Just some brief thoughts on the other items you mentioned:

New domain - Yeah, the cryptokingdom.com domain is up for grabs. Why is there literally zero interest in acquiring it?

New dev-team - Absolutely zero PJ on the development side, yes. If he wants to use his player accounts, fine. Speed and company are of course welcome, but we need a process more streamlined than what we have now. Are we waiting another year? At that rate, just kill the project as that will be 3 years with zero activity.

No debt - Yes, just remove it imo. Takeover Risto's accounts (including Risto proxies like Soul). Manage those to the benefit of all players, not just those who were involved with the depo share nonsense. Otherwise, by focusing on debt, we ignore players like Karl Hungus who lost 30k XMR, but weren't involved in the depo business.

No king - Yes. Part of the reason I feel nothing has been accomplished is that for a long while, people expected the king to do something. HMC is welcome to play in the new game, but we don't need a single king.

I thought you meant new everything with a fork. New domain, new server, new dev-team, no debt, no king etc. That would be interesting, to start new. That I would play.

Speed & co is still probably going ahead with original CK, and that is very good, I would play that too.

Can a fork/relaunch be done without PJ's involvement? If it can I can't think of any reason not to try saving CK (the basic idea is still full of potential).

I'm talking about a fork/relaunch of the original CK. Risto has been gone from the game for about a year now and the game has been paused for about two years. Not going to lie, but getting tired of the situation overall and the general apathy of the community in particular. I would like to see if there is any real interest in CK anymore and what we as a community can do to pursue our shared goals. Or to see if people mainly want the project to die completely which, if that is the case, it needs to go ahead and do already.

Yes, I am aware of Speed's initiative and would want him and whatever he plans as part of any CK relaunch. Again, its just that, unlike even the shittiest of shitcoins, CK doesn't seem to have any life to it. Said shitcoins at least have PoW/PoS mining to keep their projects on life support; CK just looks to be in the fucking morgue.

I wouldn't call Risto's CK:Universe a "fork" by any stretch of the imagination. Is was an impotent and inane attempt and, bluntly, purely laughable and pathetic. Just a fucking Google Doc with a few tabs and zero point/purpose overall. Reading Risto? FUCK YOU!

Risto's CK overall has to have been one of the most disappointing scams in crypto. It was so effective that even dumbass Risto scammed himself out of a good amount of XMR!

What kind of fork are you actually talking about?

This is the original CK.

Risto made his CK: Ultima fork.

We are CK.

https://auctions.godaddy.com/trpItemListing.aspx?src=dpp&miid=231679842

Was searching and saw that cryptokingdom.com is for sale. BIN price is $1.3k. A lower price could be negotiated more than likely. Who handles the current cryptokingdom.me domain? Would recommend that we obtain the .com name.

Feel free to post this on any CK threads I missed. I think I posted it on like 10+ of them. At the very least, maybe it will get the bald fucker's attention and he will come out of his eternal moping and general fuckheadedness for a bit to spew some random bullshit for a while to mildly entertain all of us...

+1

Simplify as much as possible, and let players create the 'vibe' through game play. The Agora market has loads of potential now that crypto is going mainstream, people will come up with ways to use it in the context of the CK universe.

A fork could finally get rid of the blockages that have kept CK from continuing post risto.

Sounds like fun! Blockchain is the future. Dev and admins still needed. Anyway, I am with you, and I will try to help what I can. I am here to play, been waiting too long already.

In ForkKingdom (FK) we use FUCKS as the currency of choice

Kidding aside, I would want the rebase/fork to be modular and more emergent (but starting basic) in its gameplay. People should be able to create their own aspects of the game beyond the core gameplay.

No gods or kings. Only blockchain.