Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action - page 546. (Read 1006926 times)
September 18, 2015, 03:17:07 PM
How's that class action coming along dude?
September 18, 2015, 12:52:06 PM
THEY CLEARLY DID NOT TELL ME HOW. See 2 posts ago of mine.....
I don't see any response.
Community: these ppl trying to discredit me are Cryptsy's troll accounts. I opened the account with the same IP, put the funds in- they have my ID and all my info... There's really nothing else a human can do to prove the account is theirs, I've given them everything.
Well, at least I have on the record them saying the coins are in the account. So, If/when they mysteriously "disappear", there's going to be alot of explaining to do to the judge. I am just calling it here in advance(again): they are going to say the account is hacked and someone withdraw the $ and that it's my fault. Sorry Cryptsy, its not going to work. Also notice they haven't done a single thing to contact the "legitimate" owner(an email would be nice). They have done nothing. I know because its my account.
Cryptsy = reverse security. Security intended to keep the owner of the acct out, and put down all security barriers (three 2FA options simultaneously) so a "hacker" can get into the account and fuck around.
CRYPTSY/MULLICK/BITJOHN: Still waiting. Lets just get this over with.
I don't see any response.
Community: these ppl trying to discredit me are Cryptsy's troll accounts. I opened the account with the same IP, put the funds in- they have my ID and all my info... There's really nothing else a human can do to prove the account is theirs, I've given them everything.
Well, at least I have on the record them saying the coins are in the account. So, If/when they mysteriously "disappear", there's going to be alot of explaining to do to the judge. I am just calling it here in advance(again): they are going to say the account is hacked and someone withdraw the $ and that it's my fault. Sorry Cryptsy, its not going to work. Also notice they haven't done a single thing to contact the "legitimate" owner(an email would be nice). They have done nothing. I know because its my account.
Cryptsy = reverse security. Security intended to keep the owner of the acct out, and put down all security barriers (three 2FA options simultaneously) so a "hacker" can get into the account and fuck around.
CRYPTSY/MULLICK/BITJOHN: Still waiting. Lets just get this over with.
The only troll here is you. I couldn't believe anyone would be so stupid as to not be able to input your username, email, and fill out a captcha to unlock their account but you have destroyed my belief in that.
"Enter your Username and Email Address. A reset link will be emailed to you." It is that simple. If you cannot understand that EXTREMELY simple process then you lack enough intelligence to use an exchange.
I still stand by my previous post calling you a liar and a thief.
September 18, 2015, 07:56:19 AM
THEY CLEARLY DID NOT TELL ME HOW. See 2 posts ago of mine.....
I don't see any response.
Community: these ppl trying to discredit me are Cryptsy's troll accounts. I opened the account with the same IP, put the funds in- they have my ID and all my info... There's really nothing else a human can do to prove the account is theirs, I've given them everything.
Well, at least I have on the record them saying the coins are in the account. So, If/when they mysteriously "disappear", there's going to be alot of explaining to do to the judge. I am just calling it here in advance(again): they are going to say the account is hacked and someone withdraw the $ and that it's my fault. Sorry Cryptsy, its not going to work. Also notice they haven't done a single thing to contact the "legitimate" owner(an email would be nice). They have done nothing. I know because its my account.
Cryptsy = reverse security. Security intended to keep the owner of the acct out, and put down all security barriers (three 2FA options simultaneously) so a "hacker" can get into the account and fuck around.
CRYPTSY/MULLICK/BITJOHN: Still waiting. Lets just get this over with.
I don't see any response.
Community: these ppl trying to discredit me are Cryptsy's troll accounts. I opened the account with the same IP, put the funds in- they have my ID and all my info... There's really nothing else a human can do to prove the account is theirs, I've given them everything.
Well, at least I have on the record them saying the coins are in the account. So, If/when they mysteriously "disappear", there's going to be alot of explaining to do to the judge. I am just calling it here in advance(again): they are going to say the account is hacked and someone withdraw the $ and that it's my fault. Sorry Cryptsy, its not going to work. Also notice they haven't done a single thing to contact the "legitimate" owner(an email would be nice). They have done nothing. I know because its my account.
Cryptsy = reverse security. Security intended to keep the owner of the acct out, and put down all security barriers (three 2FA options simultaneously) so a "hacker" can get into the account and fuck around.
CRYPTSY/MULLICK/BITJOHN: Still waiting. Lets just get this over with.
Srsly? Just Usethefuckinggoogle, man...
https://www.cryptsy.com/users/forgotpass
September 18, 2015, 07:30:32 AM
THEY CLEARLY DID NOT TELL ME HOW. See 2 posts ago of mine.....
I don't see any response.
Community: these ppl trying to discredit me are Cryptsy's troll accounts. I opened the account with the same IP, put the funds in- they have my ID and all my info... There's really nothing else a human can do to prove the account is theirs, I've given them everything.
Well, at least I have on the record them saying the coins are in the account. So, If/when they mysteriously "disappear", there's going to be alot of explaining to do to the judge. I am just calling it here in advance(again): they are going to say the account is hacked and someone withdraw the $ and that it's my fault. Sorry Cryptsy, its not going to work. Also notice they haven't done a single thing to contact the "legitimate" owner(an email would be nice). They have done nothing. I know because its my account.
Cryptsy = reverse security. Security intended to keep the owner of the acct out, and put down all security barriers (three 2FA options simultaneously) so a "hacker" can get into the account and fuck around.
CRYPTSY/MULLICK/BITJOHN: Still waiting. Lets just get this over with.
I don't see any response.
Community: these ppl trying to discredit me are Cryptsy's troll accounts. I opened the account with the same IP, put the funds in- they have my ID and all my info... There's really nothing else a human can do to prove the account is theirs, I've given them everything.
Well, at least I have on the record them saying the coins are in the account. So, If/when they mysteriously "disappear", there's going to be alot of explaining to do to the judge. I am just calling it here in advance(again): they are going to say the account is hacked and someone withdraw the $ and that it's my fault. Sorry Cryptsy, its not going to work. Also notice they haven't done a single thing to contact the "legitimate" owner(an email would be nice). They have done nothing. I know because its my account.
Cryptsy = reverse security. Security intended to keep the owner of the acct out, and put down all security barriers (three 2FA options simultaneously) so a "hacker" can get into the account and fuck around.
CRYPTSY/MULLICK/BITJOHN: Still waiting. Lets just get this over with.
September 18, 2015, 07:14:48 AM
Cryptsy,
Where are you? Can't respond to my threads anymore?
It looked like we were making such progress.......
So, how would I go about changing that PW again? Oh, you won't tell me here? (or email me privately?)
So, the status as of now is Cryptsy tells me I need to change the password, then completely disappears when I try to do so. Whatt's it gonna take? Simple question. My coins are still being held hostage
See my last post. Still waiting. Seriously Cryptsy, is this worth it?
Where are you? Can't respond to my threads anymore?
It looked like we were making such progress.......So, how would I go about changing that PW again? Oh, you won't tell me here? (or email me privately?)
So, the status as of now is Cryptsy tells me I need to change the password, then completely disappears when I try to do so. Whatt's it gonna take? Simple question. My coins are still being held hostage
See my last post. Still waiting. Seriously Cryptsy, is this worth it?
They told you how. Why all the drama?
September 18, 2015, 07:07:16 AM
Cryptsy,
Where are you? Can't respond to my threads anymore? It looked like we were making such progress.......
So, how would I go about changing that PW again? Oh, you won't tell me here? (or email me privately?)
So, the status as of now is Cryptsy tells me I need to change the password, then completely disappears when I try to do so. Whatt's it gonna take? Simple question. My coins are still being held hostage
See my last post. Still waiting. Seriously Cryptsy, is this worth it?
To those who are saying I am not genuine- you're very wrong. They know who I am personally as I sent them all my ID info. I have my whole login history(from the whitelisted IP) for my account. I am still using that IP, WHICH IS ALSO THE IP I CREATED THE ACCOUNT WITH, AND THE IP I WAS LOGGED IN WHILE DEPOSITING ALL THE COINS, AND THE IP I WAS LOGGED IN WHEN ATTEMPTING TO WITHDRAW THE COINS. Of course they know all this and find it very convenient to ignore this fact.
After giving and revoking my "verified status", they have nothing left, no excuses to deny me my $, so now they are silent.
IF I WERE NOT GENUINE: WHY WOULD I KEEP INSISTING THAT WITHDRAWS SHOULD ONLY BE MADE FROM THE WHITELISTED IP, AND INSISTING NOT TO REMOVE THE SECURITY MEASURES FOR LOGIN AND WITHDRAW.
Where are you? Can't respond to my threads anymore?
It looked like we were making such progress.......So, how would I go about changing that PW again? Oh, you won't tell me here? (or email me privately?)
So, the status as of now is Cryptsy tells me I need to change the password, then completely disappears when I try to do so. Whatt's it gonna take? Simple question. My coins are still being held hostage
See my last post. Still waiting. Seriously Cryptsy, is this worth it?
To those who are saying I am not genuine- you're very wrong. They know who I am personally as I sent them all my ID info. I have my whole login history(from the whitelisted IP) for my account. I am still using that IP, WHICH IS ALSO THE IP I CREATED THE ACCOUNT WITH, AND THE IP I WAS LOGGED IN WHILE DEPOSITING ALL THE COINS, AND THE IP I WAS LOGGED IN WHEN ATTEMPTING TO WITHDRAW THE COINS. Of course they know all this and find it very convenient to ignore this fact.
After giving and revoking my "verified status", they have nothing left, no excuses to deny me my $, so now they are silent.
IF I WERE NOT GENUINE: WHY WOULD I KEEP INSISTING THAT WITHDRAWS SHOULD ONLY BE MADE FROM THE WHITELISTED IP, AND INSISTING NOT TO REMOVE THE SECURITY MEASURES FOR LOGIN AND WITHDRAW.
September 18, 2015, 06:59:06 AM
If you really get stuck with Cryptsy, the BBB of Florida can and will help. The parent company is a publicly registered business and they do respond to these complaints.
Out of all the issues I've had with them only one required going this route, and as pissed as I was, in the end, all got sorted with the lost funds. I am beginning to agree that OP's motives here seem less than genuine.
Out of all the issues I've had with them only one required going this route, and as pissed as I was, in the end, all got sorted with the lost funds. I am beginning to agree that OP's motives here seem less than genuine.
September 16, 2015, 02:37:26 AM
Ok Mullick/BitJohn,
So you've confirmed that the funds are safe in my account and the security measures won't be removed.
2) I'm willing to change the password to access my funds, but I need your word on this forum that if I get into my account, then I'll be able to trade/withdraw as you've previously stated I should have no problem doing so, having no remaining reason to deny me access to my funds. Can I get that simple guarantee from you to follow up on your word here?
Because thats the big question here. If you're going to let me back into my account, I have to know there's a point (IE I can actually acccess my account rather than just stare at the numbers which may or may not indicate the actual presence of coins).
If you claim I STILL won't be able to trade/withdraw, then you need to state upfront what it's going to take to solve the problem: rather than string me along again and again and again, with no possible satisfying criteria, because it won't be stated honestly up front. Otherwise, we can go on emailing back and forth for weeks, but I'll still have to sue if there's nothing I can do as the rightful account owner to access my own funds. Lets just complete this and move on.
As an Aside: Take a step back and think about it community: What criteria makes someone the "rightful account owner"?
I would say that the following criteria are required : A) they created the account B) they deposited and traded the funds C) they requested withdraw. Finally, it helps if D) the person can be tied to a personal identity.
I have beyond doubt proved to Cryptsy, and can easily prove to a judge/jury that I satisfy ALL of these combined criteria. I can prove manyof these factors SEVERAL ways.
BitJohn/Mullick/Cryptsy: Can you guarantee 2), that the PW change/login will actually give me trade/withdraw access to the account?(as you've already told me)
If so, then I'll proceed with pw change... If not, I don't see any other explanation than ill intent on your part with the "moving goalpost" of endless obstructions to my own money which Cryptsy has refused(and continues to refuse) to state up front.
Show us all you're acting in good faith here I hope there isn't still, but if there's any remaining doubt on your part, after all this, that I am the rightful account owner, you need to state which (A-D) you claim to be doubting up front.
So you've confirmed that the funds are safe in my account and the security measures won't be removed.
2) I'm willing to change the password to access my funds, but I need your word on this forum that if I get into my account, then I'll be able to trade/withdraw as you've previously stated I should have no problem doing so, having no remaining reason to deny me access to my funds. Can I get that simple guarantee from you to follow up on your word here?
Because thats the big question here. If you're going to let me back into my account, I have to know there's a point (IE I can actually acccess my account rather than just stare at the numbers which may or may not indicate the actual presence of coins).
If you claim I STILL won't be able to trade/withdraw, then you need to state upfront what it's going to take to solve the problem: rather than string me along again and again and again, with no possible satisfying criteria, because it won't be stated honestly up front. Otherwise, we can go on emailing back and forth for weeks, but I'll still have to sue if there's nothing I can do as the rightful account owner to access my own funds. Lets just complete this and move on.
As an Aside: Take a step back and think about it community: What criteria makes someone the "rightful account owner"?
I would say that the following criteria are required : A) they created the account B) they deposited and traded the funds C) they requested withdraw. Finally, it helps if D) the person can be tied to a personal identity.
I have beyond doubt proved to Cryptsy, and can easily prove to a judge/jury that I satisfy ALL of these combined criteria. I can prove manyof these factors SEVERAL ways.
BitJohn/Mullick/Cryptsy: Can you guarantee 2), that the PW change/login will actually give me trade/withdraw access to the account?(as you've already told me)
If so, then I'll proceed with pw change... If not, I don't see any other explanation than ill intent on your part with the "moving goalpost" of endless obstructions to my own money which Cryptsy has refused(and continues to refuse) to state up front.
Show us all you're acting in good faith here I hope there isn't still, but if there's any remaining doubt on your part, after all this, that I am the rightful account owner, you need to state which (A-D) you claim to be doubting up front.
The way you keep going on with all this bull shit instead of taking a minute to change your password makes me think it isn't your account and that you are just a vile thief looking to steal someone else's money.
This is exactly what I was thinking.
As i said, all cryptsy hate threads end being false, almost all of them, its true that cryptsy might not be the fastest in terms of support and they have a few other problems but they are not stealing money or locking accounts for no reason, i stopped using cryptsy long ago but i have never had any big problems with it
September 15, 2015, 07:41:18 PM
How about responding to the stuck withdraws you caused by taking your I2P node offline without warning:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12420396
A little communication would go a long way in earning trust from the community!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12420396
A little communication would go a long way in earning trust from the community!
Drop your pitchfork and stop hijacking other people threads. Seems a lot of people have a vendetta here.
September 15, 2015, 07:24:21 PM
Ok Mullick/BitJohn,
So you've confirmed that the funds are safe in my account and the security measures won't be removed.
2) I'm willing to change the password to access my funds, but I need your word on this forum that if I get into my account, then I'll be able to trade/withdraw as you've previously stated I should have no problem doing so, having no remaining reason to deny me access to my funds. Can I get that simple guarantee from you to follow up on your word here?
Because thats the big question here. If you're going to let me back into my account, I have to know there's a point (IE I can actually acccess my account rather than just stare at the numbers which may or may not indicate the actual presence of coins).
If you claim I STILL won't be able to trade/withdraw, then you need to state upfront what it's going to take to solve the problem: rather than string me along again and again and again, with no possible satisfying criteria, because it won't be stated honestly up front. Otherwise, we can go on emailing back and forth for weeks, but I'll still have to sue if there's nothing I can do as the rightful account owner to access my own funds. Lets just complete this and move on.
As an Aside: Take a step back and think about it community: What criteria makes someone the "rightful account owner"?
I would say that the following criteria are required : A) they created the account B) they deposited and traded the funds C) they requested withdraw. Finally, it helps if D) the person can be tied to a personal identity.
I have beyond doubt proved to Cryptsy, and can easily prove to a judge/jury that I satisfy ALL of these combined criteria. I can prove manyof these factors SEVERAL ways.
BitJohn/Mullick/Cryptsy: Can you guarantee 2), that the PW change/login will actually give me trade/withdraw access to the account?(as you've already told me)
If so, then I'll proceed with pw change... If not, I don't see any other explanation than ill intent on your part with the "moving goalpost" of endless obstructions to my own money which Cryptsy has refused(and continues to refuse) to state up front.
Show us all you're acting in good faith here I hope there isn't still, but if there's any remaining doubt on your part, after all this, that I am the rightful account owner, you need to state which (A-D) you claim to be doubting up front.
So you've confirmed that the funds are safe in my account and the security measures won't be removed.
2) I'm willing to change the password to access my funds, but I need your word on this forum that if I get into my account, then I'll be able to trade/withdraw as you've previously stated I should have no problem doing so, having no remaining reason to deny me access to my funds. Can I get that simple guarantee from you to follow up on your word here?
Because thats the big question here. If you're going to let me back into my account, I have to know there's a point (IE I can actually acccess my account rather than just stare at the numbers which may or may not indicate the actual presence of coins).
If you claim I STILL won't be able to trade/withdraw, then you need to state upfront what it's going to take to solve the problem: rather than string me along again and again and again, with no possible satisfying criteria, because it won't be stated honestly up front. Otherwise, we can go on emailing back and forth for weeks, but I'll still have to sue if there's nothing I can do as the rightful account owner to access my own funds. Lets just complete this and move on.
As an Aside: Take a step back and think about it community: What criteria makes someone the "rightful account owner"?
I would say that the following criteria are required : A) they created the account B) they deposited and traded the funds C) they requested withdraw. Finally, it helps if D) the person can be tied to a personal identity.
I have beyond doubt proved to Cryptsy, and can easily prove to a judge/jury that I satisfy ALL of these combined criteria. I can prove manyof these factors SEVERAL ways.
BitJohn/Mullick/Cryptsy: Can you guarantee 2), that the PW change/login will actually give me trade/withdraw access to the account?(as you've already told me)
If so, then I'll proceed with pw change... If not, I don't see any other explanation than ill intent on your part with the "moving goalpost" of endless obstructions to my own money which Cryptsy has refused(and continues to refuse) to state up front.
Show us all you're acting in good faith here I hope there isn't still, but if there's any remaining doubt on your part, after all this, that I am the rightful account owner, you need to state which (A-D) you claim to be doubting up front.
The way you keep going on with all this bull shit instead of taking a minute to change your password makes me think it isn't your account and that you are just a vile thief looking to steal someone else's money.
This is exactly what I was thinking.
September 15, 2015, 10:02:37 AM
Ok Mullick/BitJohn,
So you've confirmed that the funds are safe in my account and the security measures won't be removed.
2) I'm willing to change the password to access my funds, but I need your word on this forum that if I get into my account, then I'll be able to trade/withdraw as you've previously stated I should have no problem doing so, having no remaining reason to deny me access to my funds. Can I get that simple guarantee from you to follow up on your word here?
Because thats the big question here. If you're going to let me back into my account, I have to know there's a point (IE I can actually acccess my account rather than just stare at the numbers which may or may not indicate the actual presence of coins).
If you claim I STILL won't be able to trade/withdraw, then you need to state upfront what it's going to take to solve the problem: rather than string me along again and again and again, with no possible satisfying criteria, because it won't be stated honestly up front. Otherwise, we can go on emailing back and forth for weeks, but I'll still have to sue if there's nothing I can do as the rightful account owner to access my own funds. Lets just complete this and move on.
As an Aside: Take a step back and think about it community: What criteria makes someone the "rightful account owner"?
I would say that the following criteria are required : A) they created the account B) they deposited and traded the funds C) they requested withdraw. Finally, it helps if D) the person can be tied to a personal identity.
I have beyond doubt proved to Cryptsy, and can easily prove to a judge/jury that I satisfy ALL of these combined criteria. I can prove manyof these factors SEVERAL ways.
BitJohn/Mullick/Cryptsy: Can you guarantee 2), that the PW change/login will actually give me trade/withdraw access to the account?(as you've already told me)
If so, then I'll proceed with pw change... If not, I don't see any other explanation than ill intent on your part with the "moving goalpost" of endless obstructions to my own money which Cryptsy has refused(and continues to refuse) to state up front.
Show us all you're acting in good faith here I hope there isn't still, but if there's any remaining doubt on your part, after all this, that I am the rightful account owner, you need to state which (A-D) you claim to be doubting up front.
So you've confirmed that the funds are safe in my account and the security measures won't be removed.
2) I'm willing to change the password to access my funds, but I need your word on this forum that if I get into my account, then I'll be able to trade/withdraw as you've previously stated I should have no problem doing so, having no remaining reason to deny me access to my funds. Can I get that simple guarantee from you to follow up on your word here?
Because thats the big question here. If you're going to let me back into my account, I have to know there's a point (IE I can actually acccess my account rather than just stare at the numbers which may or may not indicate the actual presence of coins).
If you claim I STILL won't be able to trade/withdraw, then you need to state upfront what it's going to take to solve the problem: rather than string me along again and again and again, with no possible satisfying criteria, because it won't be stated honestly up front. Otherwise, we can go on emailing back and forth for weeks, but I'll still have to sue if there's nothing I can do as the rightful account owner to access my own funds. Lets just complete this and move on.
As an Aside: Take a step back and think about it community: What criteria makes someone the "rightful account owner"?
I would say that the following criteria are required : A) they created the account B) they deposited and traded the funds C) they requested withdraw. Finally, it helps if D) the person can be tied to a personal identity.
I have beyond doubt proved to Cryptsy, and can easily prove to a judge/jury that I satisfy ALL of these combined criteria. I can prove manyof these factors SEVERAL ways.
BitJohn/Mullick/Cryptsy: Can you guarantee 2), that the PW change/login will actually give me trade/withdraw access to the account?(as you've already told me)
If so, then I'll proceed with pw change... If not, I don't see any other explanation than ill intent on your part with the "moving goalpost" of endless obstructions to my own money which Cryptsy has refused(and continues to refuse) to state up front.
Show us all you're acting in good faith here I hope there isn't still, but if there's any remaining doubt on your part, after all this, that I am the rightful account owner, you need to state which (A-D) you claim to be doubting up front.
The way you keep going on with all this bull shit instead of taking a minute to change your password makes me think it isn't your account and that you are just a vile thief looking to steal someone else's money.
Most likely.
September 15, 2015, 09:59:21 AM
Ok Mullick/BitJohn,
So you've confirmed that the funds are safe in my account and the security measures won't be removed.
2) I'm willing to change the password to access my funds, but I need your word on this forum that if I get into my account, then I'll be able to trade/withdraw as you've previously stated I should have no problem doing so, having no remaining reason to deny me access to my funds. Can I get that simple guarantee from you to follow up on your word here?
Because thats the big question here. If you're going to let me back into my account, I have to know there's a point (IE I can actually acccess my account rather than just stare at the numbers which may or may not indicate the actual presence of coins).
If you claim I STILL won't be able to trade/withdraw, then you need to state upfront what it's going to take to solve the problem: rather than string me along again and again and again, with no possible satisfying criteria, because it won't be stated honestly up front. Otherwise, we can go on emailing back and forth for weeks, but I'll still have to sue if there's nothing I can do as the rightful account owner to access my own funds. Lets just complete this and move on.
As an Aside: Take a step back and think about it community: What criteria makes someone the "rightful account owner"?
I would say that the following criteria are required : A) they created the account B) they deposited and traded the funds C) they requested withdraw. Finally, it helps if D) the person can be tied to a personal identity.
I have beyond doubt proved to Cryptsy, and can easily prove to a judge/jury that I satisfy ALL of these combined criteria. I can prove manyof these factors SEVERAL ways.
BitJohn/Mullick/Cryptsy: Can you guarantee 2), that the PW change/login will actually give me trade/withdraw access to the account?(as you've already told me)
If so, then I'll proceed with pw change... If not, I don't see any other explanation than ill intent on your part with the "moving goalpost" of endless obstructions to my own money which Cryptsy has refused(and continues to refuse) to state up front.
Show us all you're acting in good faith here I hope there isn't still, but if there's any remaining doubt on your part, after all this, that I am the rightful account owner, you need to state which (A-D) you claim to be doubting up front.
So you've confirmed that the funds are safe in my account and the security measures won't be removed.
2) I'm willing to change the password to access my funds, but I need your word on this forum that if I get into my account, then I'll be able to trade/withdraw as you've previously stated I should have no problem doing so, having no remaining reason to deny me access to my funds. Can I get that simple guarantee from you to follow up on your word here?
Because thats the big question here. If you're going to let me back into my account, I have to know there's a point (IE I can actually acccess my account rather than just stare at the numbers which may or may not indicate the actual presence of coins).
If you claim I STILL won't be able to trade/withdraw, then you need to state upfront what it's going to take to solve the problem: rather than string me along again and again and again, with no possible satisfying criteria, because it won't be stated honestly up front. Otherwise, we can go on emailing back and forth for weeks, but I'll still have to sue if there's nothing I can do as the rightful account owner to access my own funds. Lets just complete this and move on.
As an Aside: Take a step back and think about it community: What criteria makes someone the "rightful account owner"?
I would say that the following criteria are required : A) they created the account B) they deposited and traded the funds C) they requested withdraw. Finally, it helps if D) the person can be tied to a personal identity.
I have beyond doubt proved to Cryptsy, and can easily prove to a judge/jury that I satisfy ALL of these combined criteria. I can prove manyof these factors SEVERAL ways.
BitJohn/Mullick/Cryptsy: Can you guarantee 2), that the PW change/login will actually give me trade/withdraw access to the account?(as you've already told me)
If so, then I'll proceed with pw change... If not, I don't see any other explanation than ill intent on your part with the "moving goalpost" of endless obstructions to my own money which Cryptsy has refused(and continues to refuse) to state up front.
Show us all you're acting in good faith here I hope there isn't still, but if there's any remaining doubt on your part, after all this, that I am the rightful account owner, you need to state which (A-D) you claim to be doubting up front.
The way you keep going on with all this bull shit instead of taking a minute to change your password makes me think it isn't your account and that you are just a vile thief looking to steal someone else's money.
September 14, 2015, 09:37:11 PM
Ok Mullick/BitJohn,
So you've confirmed that the funds are safe in my account and the security measures won't be removed.
2) I'm willing to change the password to access my funds, but I need your word on this forum that if I get into my account, then I'll be able to trade/withdraw as you've previously stated I should have no problem doing so, having no remaining reason to deny me access to my funds. Can I get that simple guarantee from you to follow up on your word here?
Because thats the big question here. If you're going to let me back into my account, I have to know there's a point (IE I can actually acccess my account rather than just stare at the numbers which may or may not indicate the actual presence of coins).
If you claim I STILL won't be able to trade/withdraw, then you need to state upfront what it's going to take to solve the problem: rather than string me along again and again and again, with no possible satisfying criteria, because it won't be stated honestly up front. Otherwise, we can go on emailing back and forth for weeks, but I'll still have to sue if there's nothing I can do as the rightful account owner to access my own funds. Lets just complete this and move on.
As an Aside: Take a step back and think about it community: What criteria makes someone the "rightful account owner"?
I would say that the following criteria are required : A) they created the account B) they deposited and traded the funds C) they requested withdraw. Finally, it helps if D) the person can be tied to a personal identity.
I have beyond doubt proved to Cryptsy, and can easily prove to a judge/jury that I satisfy ALL of these combined criteria. I can prove manyof these factors SEVERAL ways.
BitJohn/Mullick/Cryptsy: Can you guarantee 2), that the PW change/login will actually give me trade/withdraw access to the account?(as you've already told me)
If so, then I'll proceed with pw change... If not, I don't see any other explanation than ill intent on your part with the "moving goalpost" of endless obstructions to my own money which Cryptsy has refused(and continues to refuse) to state up front.
Show us all you're acting in good faith here I hope there isn't still, but if there's any remaining doubt on your part, after all this, that I am the rightful account owner, you need to state which (A-D) you claim to be doubting up front.
So you've confirmed that the funds are safe in my account and the security measures won't be removed.
2) I'm willing to change the password to access my funds, but I need your word on this forum that if I get into my account, then I'll be able to trade/withdraw as you've previously stated I should have no problem doing so, having no remaining reason to deny me access to my funds. Can I get that simple guarantee from you to follow up on your word here?
Because thats the big question here. If you're going to let me back into my account, I have to know there's a point (IE I can actually acccess my account rather than just stare at the numbers which may or may not indicate the actual presence of coins).
If you claim I STILL won't be able to trade/withdraw, then you need to state upfront what it's going to take to solve the problem: rather than string me along again and again and again, with no possible satisfying criteria, because it won't be stated honestly up front. Otherwise, we can go on emailing back and forth for weeks, but I'll still have to sue if there's nothing I can do as the rightful account owner to access my own funds. Lets just complete this and move on.
As an Aside: Take a step back and think about it community: What criteria makes someone the "rightful account owner"?
I would say that the following criteria are required : A) they created the account B) they deposited and traded the funds C) they requested withdraw. Finally, it helps if D) the person can be tied to a personal identity.
I have beyond doubt proved to Cryptsy, and can easily prove to a judge/jury that I satisfy ALL of these combined criteria. I can prove manyof these factors SEVERAL ways.
BitJohn/Mullick/Cryptsy: Can you guarantee 2), that the PW change/login will actually give me trade/withdraw access to the account?(as you've already told me)
If so, then I'll proceed with pw change... If not, I don't see any other explanation than ill intent on your part with the "moving goalpost" of endless obstructions to my own money which Cryptsy has refused(and continues to refuse) to state up front.
Show us all you're acting in good faith here I hope there isn't still, but if there's any remaining doubt on your part, after all this, that I am the rightful account owner, you need to state which (A-D) you claim to be doubting up front.
September 14, 2015, 01:27:31 PM
Ok BitJohn,
You’re on the record saying my funds are safe and sound in the account as of now. As I’ve said all along, if I get my funds back, we’ll call it a day, and I will post here that you resolved the problem.
Question 1) Before proceeding with the password change, can you guarantee to me and the community here on this forum that the 2-Factor Auth PIN is still enabled, and that email withdraw confirm 2fa is also still enabled, and that you won’t remove either safeguard without my authorization???
Because if you can’t guarantee this simple thing first, it would be pointless to move forward. The people here will plainly see that if you are indeed acting “in good faith”, that you’d be able to answer this question simply in the affirmative.
I think we can ALL agree that if Cryptsy/BitJohn cannot affirm this statement about the 2fa’s, then it’s clear evidence of Cryptsy/BitJohn acting in bad faith.
Show us you’re legit and simply answer Q1 affirmatively. Then we can move forward and get on with our lives.
Thank you.
You’re on the record saying my funds are safe and sound in the account as of now. As I’ve said all along, if I get my funds back, we’ll call it a day, and I will post here that you resolved the problem.
Question 1) Before proceeding with the password change, can you guarantee to me and the community here on this forum that the 2-Factor Auth PIN is still enabled, and that email withdraw confirm 2fa is also still enabled, and that you won’t remove either safeguard without my authorization???
Because if you can’t guarantee this simple thing first, it would be pointless to move forward. The people here will plainly see that if you are indeed acting “in good faith”, that you’d be able to answer this question simply in the affirmative.
I think we can ALL agree that if Cryptsy/BitJohn cannot affirm this statement about the 2fa’s, then it’s clear evidence of Cryptsy/BitJohn acting in bad faith.
Show us you’re legit and simply answer Q1 affirmatively. Then we can move forward and get on with our lives.
Thank you.
We would never remove anyones 2fa without their consent and verification they are the owner of the account
Withdrawal email confirmations are not optional and are enabled for all users
How about responding to the stuck withdraws you caused by taking your I2P node offline without warning:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12420396
A little communication would go a long way in earning trust from the community!
September 12, 2015, 03:32:22 AM
Ok BitJohn,
You’re on the record saying my funds are safe and sound in the account as of now. As I’ve said all along, if I get my funds back, we’ll call it a day, and I will post here that you resolved the problem.
Question 1) Before proceeding with the password change, can you guarantee to me and the community here on this forum that the 2-Factor Auth PIN is still enabled, and that email withdraw confirm 2fa is also still enabled, and that you won’t remove either safeguard without my authorization???
Because if you can’t guarantee this simple thing first, it would be pointless to move forward. The people here will plainly see that if you are indeed acting “in good faith”, that you’d be able to answer this question simply in the affirmative.
I think we can ALL agree that if Cryptsy/BitJohn cannot affirm this statement about the 2fa’s, then it’s clear evidence of Cryptsy/BitJohn acting in bad faith.
Show us you’re legit and simply answer Q1 affirmatively. Then we can move forward and get on with our lives.
Thank you.
You’re on the record saying my funds are safe and sound in the account as of now. As I’ve said all along, if I get my funds back, we’ll call it a day, and I will post here that you resolved the problem.
Question 1) Before proceeding with the password change, can you guarantee to me and the community here on this forum that the 2-Factor Auth PIN is still enabled, and that email withdraw confirm 2fa is also still enabled, and that you won’t remove either safeguard without my authorization???
Because if you can’t guarantee this simple thing first, it would be pointless to move forward. The people here will plainly see that if you are indeed acting “in good faith”, that you’d be able to answer this question simply in the affirmative.
I think we can ALL agree that if Cryptsy/BitJohn cannot affirm this statement about the 2fa’s, then it’s clear evidence of Cryptsy/BitJohn acting in bad faith.
Show us you’re legit and simply answer Q1 affirmatively. Then we can move forward and get on with our lives.
Thank you.
We would never remove anyones 2fa without their consent and verification they are the owner of the account
Withdrawal email confirmations are not optional and are enabled for all users
How does Cryptsy over-ride a lost 2FA if Cryptsy can't change the 2FA? Or you are saying changed only with consent? Then again, how do you prove the real owner consented?
Cryptsy will take your money in the markets without locking out your account. So I don't think they need to lock you out other than to harass you for whatever reason.
Cryptsy Bait and Switched MN2 and then don't respond to support while they kept half the Contracts for themselves they said must sell before the market opens. They also said that they would never sell the Contracts and then end up having a Raffle for 200 MN2 shares sold and bought with Cryptsy Points!
They sat on their hands when Crypt PnD happened and they could have locked down all trading accounts associated with the PnD immediately as they were warned and told me they would look into it. Hell it could have been their coin for all we know.
Do I think they are capable of doing things they tell you they can't? Hell yeah! Do I think they would? Most certainly!
I wouldn't use Cryptsy even if they paid me!
September 11, 2015, 11:35:07 PM
The more things change...the more they stay the same.
This is par for the course for Crapsy
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-action-cryptsy-exhange-negligence-take-action-436149
This is par for the course for Crapsy
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-action-cryptsy-exhange-negligence-take-action-436149
September 11, 2015, 01:27:14 AM
Jesus you drama queen just change your password.
Not as eloquently put as I said, but I concur
September 10, 2015, 11:33:13 PM
Jesus you drama queen just change your password.
September 10, 2015, 10:17:57 PM
Ok BitJohn,
You’re on the record saying my funds are safe and sound in the account as of now. As I’ve said all along, if I get my funds back, we’ll call it a day, and I will post here that you resolved the problem.
Question 1) Before proceeding with the password change, can you guarantee to me and the community here on this forum that the 2-Factor Auth PIN is still enabled, and that email withdraw confirm 2fa is also still enabled, and that you won’t remove either safeguard without my authorization???
Because if you can’t guarantee this simple thing first, it would be pointless to move forward. The people here will plainly see that if you are indeed acting “in good faith”, that you’d be able to answer this question simply in the affirmative.
I think we can ALL agree that if Cryptsy/BitJohn cannot affirm this statement about the 2fa’s, then it’s clear evidence of Cryptsy/BitJohn acting in bad faith.
Show us you’re legit and simply answer Q1 affirmatively. Then we can move forward and get on with our lives.
Thank you.
You’re on the record saying my funds are safe and sound in the account as of now. As I’ve said all along, if I get my funds back, we’ll call it a day, and I will post here that you resolved the problem.
Question 1) Before proceeding with the password change, can you guarantee to me and the community here on this forum that the 2-Factor Auth PIN is still enabled, and that email withdraw confirm 2fa is also still enabled, and that you won’t remove either safeguard without my authorization???
Because if you can’t guarantee this simple thing first, it would be pointless to move forward. The people here will plainly see that if you are indeed acting “in good faith”, that you’d be able to answer this question simply in the affirmative.
I think we can ALL agree that if Cryptsy/BitJohn cannot affirm this statement about the 2fa’s, then it’s clear evidence of Cryptsy/BitJohn acting in bad faith.
Show us you’re legit and simply answer Q1 affirmatively. Then we can move forward and get on with our lives.
Thank you.
We would never remove anyones 2fa without their consent and verification they are the owner of the account
Withdrawal email confirmations are not optional and are enabled for all users
September 10, 2015, 07:27:10 PM
Ok BitJohn,
You’re on the record saying my funds are safe and sound in the account as of now. As I’ve said all along, if I get my funds back, we’ll call it a day, and I will post here that you resolved the problem.
Question 1) Before proceeding with the password change, can you guarantee to me and the community here on this forum that the 2-Factor Auth PIN is still enabled, and that email withdraw confirm 2fa is also still enabled, and that you won’t remove either safeguard without my authorization???
Because if you can’t guarantee this simple thing first, it would be pointless to move forward. The people here will plainly see that if you are indeed acting “in good faith”, that you’d be able to answer this question simply in the affirmative.
I think we can ALL agree that if Cryptsy/BitJohn cannot affirm this statement about the 2fa’s, then it’s clear evidence of Cryptsy/BitJohn acting in bad faith.
Show us you’re legit and simply answer Q1 affirmatively. Then we can move forward and get on with our lives.
Thank you.
You’re on the record saying my funds are safe and sound in the account as of now. As I’ve said all along, if I get my funds back, we’ll call it a day, and I will post here that you resolved the problem.
Question 1) Before proceeding with the password change, can you guarantee to me and the community here on this forum that the 2-Factor Auth PIN is still enabled, and that email withdraw confirm 2fa is also still enabled, and that you won’t remove either safeguard without my authorization???
Because if you can’t guarantee this simple thing first, it would be pointless to move forward. The people here will plainly see that if you are indeed acting “in good faith”, that you’d be able to answer this question simply in the affirmative.
I think we can ALL agree that if Cryptsy/BitJohn cannot affirm this statement about the 2fa’s, then it’s clear evidence of Cryptsy/BitJohn acting in bad faith.
Show us you’re legit and simply answer Q1 affirmatively. Then we can move forward and get on with our lives.
Thank you.
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