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April 08, 2016, 04:38:43 PM
#27
I would have to say Evan is really on a different level, he brought to us Darksend, instantX, & decentralized governance and funding. No wonder the man is getting lots of crypto coverage and has like 20 clones out there using Masernodes. Can't wait for what is next actually being a crypto fan this is very exciting. Our friends here the Monero shills spamming their competitors threads like crazy everywhere fail to understand how big these achievements are because their biggest upcoming updates is a silly GUI wallet....this is their main goal and moon next right?

Where is TBTP_need_war I am still waiting for he's coin that will solve all these coins issues ....bla bla bla I am a genius with an IQ OF 160+? not sure what he said but it is something like that lol
legendary
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April 08, 2016, 04:33:20 PM
#26
The link was to a giant advertisement.  I've yet to see any info on what "evolution" is actually supposed to be.

https://www.dash.org/evolution/
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April 08, 2016, 04:28:48 PM
#25

dnet and others are out. These are fair(er) versions of dash. Looks for them. More will start to flow out soon I'm sure.

Find the fairer clones and support them. Even dashers should realise a 0.001% stake in dash can buy you a 01% stake in the clones. Far better chance of big returns.
Do they have a world-class dev team and a professional, devoted community? I'll stick with Dash. I know a winning team when I see one.

Dash has a mere 28 contributors.  If that's "world-class" then what are Bitcoin (325 contributors) and Monero (41)?  Galaxy class?   Tongue

Does Dash has a "world-class dev team?"  No, it doesn't.


A "world-class dev team" doesn't royally screw up a change to Litecoin's difficulty algorithm, then deploy it without testing, then refuse to relaunch with fair notice after fixing the instamine "bug."

A "world-class dev team" wouldn't rip off CoinJoin, then refuse to talk to the creator of said technique about technical matters but insist on using his name for snake-oil marketing.

A "world-class dev team" doesn't offer financial advice by make rosy price predictions based on TA tea leaves, nor would they promote Masternodes using claims of high yields for an unlicensed investment product.

A "world-class dev team" wouldn't make a product that actual world-class devs GMAX and PTOD refer to as "bad crypto" and "broken."

Of course there's no question the DashHole community of bagholders is devoted to a cult-like level, but that's more creepy, unsettling, and (paraphrasing GMAX) depressing about the general state of humanity than a feature.

The most noticeable thing about DashHoles vs Bitcoiners (and especially Monero Mustangs) is they tend to lack a background in crypto and be more towards the low-information, socially constructed reality dwelling end of the spectrum, as opposed to the uber-nerd/power-geek/egghead/cypherpunk types you find being excited about esoteric concepts like ring signatures and 100% fungibility.

Dash goes out of its way to pander to the dim-witted and/or lazy thinking of those who don't understand all the technical jargon and just want to believe in a brand that makes them feel safe, while still appealing to their sense of greed by promising (or at least implying) a Business Opportunity to Get Rich Quick.

When we see such blatant fraud we are compelled to cry fraud, lest we also be frauds.
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April 08, 2016, 04:26:07 PM
#24
I think in the end only a handfull of cryptocurrencies will substantially grow and take real marketcap,
the rest of the altcoins will basicly just get left behind.

Dash in my eyes will be one of those cryptocurrencies that will substantially grow because it is focussing on so many
aspects, which at some point will create momentum of its own.
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April 08, 2016, 04:20:19 PM
#23
The link was to a giant advertisement.  I've yet to see any info on what "evolution" is actually supposed to be.
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April 08, 2016, 04:17:37 PM
#22

dnet and others are out. These are fair(er) versions of dash. Looks for them. More will start to flow out soon I'm sure.

Find the fairer clones and support them. Even dashers should realise a 0.001% stake in dash can buy you a 01% stake in the clones. Far better chance of big returns.
Do they have a world-class dev team and a professional, devoted community? I'll stick with Dash. I know a winning team when I see one.

World class dev team? They chose the insecurity of x11, a second rate anonymity method, and topped it off with an instamine and emissions reduction. This level of delusion should be reserved for religions and psych-wards, not technology.

Aren't you the same idiot who tweeted that Evan could cure cancer if he was locked in a room for an hour?
Ad hominems notwithstanding, yes, I'm the same idiot who tweeted that, and you're entitled to your opinion. I used to be like you, skeptical of Dash. But then I did more research, hung around a bit, and let me tell you, there is no more cohesive group in crypto. Everyone focuses on their strengths, and does what they can to improve the project.

The points I made in my article are powerful ones, and they indicate that Dash will stand the test of time.

You should do more research, then you'd realize that the flaws in dash are hardly opinion (but maybe you think Evan will magically cure them after he's done curing cancer).
There are flaws in every crypto. Having the means and the talent to fix them is what separates Dash from the rest. You will start to see it more and more with increased marketcap leading to more capability to finance projects. The flaws will be fixed, but the strengths remain.

Hope isn't a plan. How will the flaws be fixed? And don't sell me by the same genius who built them into the coin. Show me a plan, a white paper, anything but marketing spiel and vague promises. Amateur hour is over.
I'm not hoping. I bought into the team, not the individual. The team behind Dash, including myself, is relentless and will not stop until we reach our goals. If a certain aspect of Dash threatens our survival, make no mistake, we will make every attempt and due diligence until it is fixed. There are no such flaws right now.

X11 is insecure. Instanx is flawed as outlined by TPTB_need-war. Both of these flaws have been made apparent to Evan. He initially argued that one didn't exist (in the case of instantx) and stated that there was an easy fix if X11 was exploited, but when shown that his logic was flawed in both cases, he disappeared from the both conversations. So is there a plan to fix these flaws or are you maintaining they don't exist?
Both of these statements will be dealt with if someone actually proves that they're a problem. If someone breaks x-11, we will fix it. If someone takes money from someone using InstantX, we will fix it. Until someone actually has the wherewithal to attack Dash and actually break it, those statements are just conjecture. Even if they were true, the attacker would be doing Dash a favour by making it stronger, and allowing our professional team the chance to improve the Internet Of Money. So please, go to your friend and tell him Tao told him to stand by his statements and break Dash.

How would you "fix" an X11 exploit? Sorry if your hand waving and promises are meaningless to me. Evan's plan was to eliminate the exploited chain and roll everything back, but that's BS, and when countered on his flawed plan, he disappeared. So now the plan is to just wait and see if it happens and then fix it? How? Luck and good intentions?
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April 08, 2016, 04:09:58 PM
#21

dnet and others are out. These are fair(er) versions of dash. Looks for them. More will start to flow out soon I'm sure.

Find the fairer clones and support them. Even dashers should realise a 0.001% stake in dash can buy you a 01% stake in the clones. Far better chance of big returns.
Do they have a world-class dev team and a professional, devoted community? I'll stick with Dash. I know a winning team when I see one.

World class dev team? They chose the insecurity of x11, a second rate anonymity method, and topped it off with an instamine and emissions reduction. This level of delusion should be reserved for religions and psych-wards, not technology.

Aren't you the same idiot who tweeted that Evan could cure cancer if he was locked in a room for an hour?
Ad hominems notwithstanding, yes, I'm the same idiot who tweeted that, and you're entitled to your opinion. I used to be like you, skeptical of Dash. But then I did more research, hung around a bit, and let me tell you, there is no more cohesive group in crypto. Everyone focuses on their strengths, and does what they can to improve the project.

The points I made in my article are powerful ones, and they indicate that Dash will stand the test of time.

You should do more research, then you'd realize that the flaws in dash are hardly opinion (but maybe you think Evan will magically cure them after he's done curing cancer).
There are flaws in every crypto. Having the means and the talent to fix them is what separates Dash from the rest. You will start to see it more and more with increased marketcap leading to more capability to finance projects. The flaws will be fixed, but the strengths remain.

Hope isn't a plan. How will the flaws be fixed? And don't sell me by the same genius who built them into the coin. Show me a plan, a white paper, anything but marketing spiel and vague promises. Amateur hour is over.
I'm not hoping. I bought into the team, not the individual. The team behind Dash, including myself, is relentless and will not stop until we reach our goals. If a certain aspect of Dash threatens our survival, make no mistake, we will make every attempt and due diligence until it is fixed. There are no such flaws right now.

X11 is insecure. Instanx is flawed as outlined by TPTB_need-war. Both of these flaws have been made apparent to Evan. He initially argued that one didn't exist (in the case of instantx) and stated that there was an easy fix if X11 was exploited, but when shown that his logic was flawed in both cases, he disappeared from the both conversations. So is there a plan to fix these flaws or are you maintaining they don't exist?
Both of these statements will be dealt with if someone actually proves that they're a problem. If someone breaks x-11, we will fix it. If someone takes money from someone using InstantX, we will fix it. Until someone actually has the wherewithal to attack Dash and actually break it, those statements are just conjecture. Even if they were true, the attacker would be doing Dash a favour by making it stronger, and allowing our professional team the chance to improve the Internet Of Money. So please, go to your friend and tell him Tao told him to stand by his statements and break Dash.
legendary
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April 08, 2016, 04:09:47 PM
#20
Monero trolls using TPTB_need-war to spread fud about Dash .. dear oh dear oh dear, where is this world heading to ?  Roll Eyes
But none the less it is amusing to observe. Its like he is their new champion now... lets just hope they dont turn him into a God  Tongue



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April 08, 2016, 04:08:21 PM
#19
What can I say?  I'm a Dash Cheerleader, so know that now... but...

The instamine means nothing.  Not only were most of those coins sold off, and bought and sold multiple times, it really doesn't matter.  Anyone who is a part of the crypto-currency ecosystem is basically part of an "instamine" in the eyes of the public.  Those who bought Apple stock early on, same thing.  Only a very few held on to their original "instamined" coins, and I think even the most central had hot heads and sold them off.  Evan's friend left, selling all his coins as well.  And what if Evan has a lot of coins?  He's been using them to live off of these past 2+ years, and has been working his butt off.  This enabled him to gather an amazing team around him as well.  This is worse than a non-issue, especially when you look at the funding plans of other coins, it's just plain stupid.

Like Tao said, the team Dash has gathered is amazing.  They're nice enough to let me hang around and watch what's going on, and I gotta tell you, it's hard to keep up with their brilliant ideas.  Evan just posted this:

You're on the right track! Imagine instead of just proposals and contracts, we also have category, group, user, company, project, project-report and project-milestone. Then the governance system (what was previously the budget system) will explicitly have a system for tracking what's happening in our economy that we're funding. Imagine the system knows when reports are due, if companies are behind on their milestones...etc. It's the autonomous part of our decentralized autonomous organization. Next we fund other DAOs into existence. I think we'll be able to manage thousands.

This whole structure I'm building is done using a self-referencing tree, so we'll have companies, that can own companies, that have people working for them. These are also the same users for evo, parts of this tree can be flagged to be stored in DashDrive instead of our governance mempool.

This is a huge upgrade by the way. If I'm going to touch the budget system, I'm going to make it as perfect as possible before we continue on. This is a vastly important part of our system.

Now if that doesn't send shivers down your spine, well.... you must not understand.

Dash, the project, isn't thinking niche market, they're thinking domination.  It'll be the first time domination means freedom.

One thing I can promise you, the more Dash is attacked, the more you can be sure Dash is winning Smiley 
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April 08, 2016, 03:57:21 PM
#18

dnet and others are out. These are fair(er) versions of dash. Looks for them. More will start to flow out soon I'm sure.

Find the fairer clones and support them. Even dashers should realise a 0.001% stake in dash can buy you a 01% stake in the clones. Far better chance of big returns.
Do they have a world-class dev team and a professional, devoted community? I'll stick with Dash. I know a winning team when I see one.

World class dev team? They chose the insecurity of x11, a second rate anonymity method, and topped it off with an instamine and emissions reduction. This level of delusion should be reserved for religions and psych-wards, not technology.

Aren't you the same idiot who tweeted that Evan could cure cancer if he was locked in a room for an hour?
Ad hominems notwithstanding, yes, I'm the same idiot who tweeted that, and you're entitled to your opinion. I used to be like you, skeptical of Dash. But then I did more research, hung around a bit, and let me tell you, there is no more cohesive group in crypto. Everyone focuses on their strengths, and does what they can to improve the project.

The points I made in my article are powerful ones, and they indicate that Dash will stand the test of time.

You should do more research, then you'd realize that the flaws in dash are hardly opinion (but maybe you think Evan will magically cure them after he's done curing cancer).
There are flaws in every crypto. Having the means and the talent to fix them is what separates Dash from the rest. You will start to see it more and more with increased marketcap leading to more capability to finance projects. The flaws will be fixed, but the strengths remain.

Hope isn't a plan. How will the flaws be fixed? And don't sell me by the same genius who built them into the coin. Show me a plan, a white paper, anything but marketing spiel and vague promises. Amateur hour is over.
I'm not hoping. I bought into the team, not the individual. The team behind Dash, including myself, is relentless and will not stop until we reach our goals. If a certain aspect of Dash threatens our survival, make no mistake, we will make every attempt and due diligence until it is fixed. There are no such flaws right now.

X11 is insecure. Instanx is flawed as outlined by TPTB_need-war. Both of these flaws have been made apparent to Evan. He initially argued that one didn't exist (in the case of instantx) and stated that there was an easy fix if X11 was exploited, but when shown that his logic was flawed in both cases, he disappeared from the both conversations. So is there a plan to fix these flaws or are you maintaining they don't exist?
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April 08, 2016, 03:42:29 PM
#17

dnet and others are out. These are fair(er) versions of dash. Looks for them. More will start to flow out soon I'm sure.

Find the fairer clones and support them. Even dashers should realise a 0.001% stake in dash can buy you a 01% stake in the clones. Far better chance of big returns.
Do they have a world-class dev team and a professional, devoted community? I'll stick with Dash. I know a winning team when I see one.

World class dev team? They chose the insecurity of x11, a second rate anonymity method, and topped it off with an instamine and emissions reduction. This level of delusion should be reserved for religions and psych-wards, not technology.

Aren't you the same idiot who tweeted that Evan could cure cancer if he was locked in a room for an hour?
Ad hominems notwithstanding, yes, I'm the same idiot who tweeted that, and you're entitled to your opinion. I used to be like you, skeptical of Dash. But then I did more research, hung around a bit, and let me tell you, there is no more cohesive group in crypto. Everyone focuses on their strengths, and does what they can to improve the project.

The points I made in my article are powerful ones, and they indicate that Dash will stand the test of time.

You should do more research, then you'd realize that the flaws in dash are hardly opinion (but maybe you think Evan will magically cure them after he's done curing cancer).
There are flaws in every crypto. Having the means and the talent to fix them is what separates Dash from the rest. You will start to see it more and more with increased marketcap leading to more capability to finance projects. The flaws will be fixed, but the strengths remain.

Hope isn't a plan. How will the flaws be fixed? And don't sell me by the same genius who built them into the coin. Show me a plan, a white paper, anything but marketing spiel and vague promises. Amateur hour is over.
I'm not hoping. I bought into the team, not the individual. The team behind Dash, including myself, is relentless and will not stop until we reach our goals. If a certain aspect of Dash threatens our survival, make no mistake, we will make every attempt and due diligence until it is fixed. There are no such flaws right now.
legendary
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Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host
April 08, 2016, 03:38:54 PM
#16
Great article Tao, really shows all the properties that cryptocurrencies need to have in order to properly function as "Digital Cash" (or Internet of Money as you put it)
and explains why Dash has a clear advantage here.

Not only is Dash trying to get all those properties working through its own blockchain and its 2nd tier network, its creating a self-supporting and self-expanding ecosystem as well.

  


Thanks, qwizzie, you're a valued member and contributor of Dash Nation as well. Any lurkers out there are welcome to join us and help create the Internet Of Money!

#DashNation
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April 08, 2016, 03:26:53 PM
#15
Great article Tao, really shows all the properties that cryptocurrencies need to have in order to properly function as "Digital Cash" (or Internet of Money as you put it)
and explains why Dash has a clear advantage here.

Not only is Dash trying to get all those properties working through its own blockchain and its 2nd tier network, its creating a self-supporting and self-expanding ecosystem as well.

  

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April 08, 2016, 03:19:14 PM
#14

dnet and others are out. These are fair(er) versions of dash. Looks for them. More will start to flow out soon I'm sure.

Find the fairer clones and support them. Even dashers should realise a 0.001% stake in dash can buy you a 01% stake in the clones. Far better chance of big returns.
I don't think a bigger stake necessarily means a chance for bigger returns.  I don't think that's true at all.

Dash clones will be just clones, methinks, just like the other clones of other coins.  They're all headed to zero.
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
April 08, 2016, 03:05:27 PM
#13

I think we will not need Dash or any other altcoin to have privacy in crypto anyway. Most of the development is happening on Bitcoin. Sooner or later Bitcoin will become optionally as anonymous as all those "anonymous altcoins" and all the money on those coins will come back to Bitcoin. With Confidential Transactions, CoinJoin and more, Bitcoin will have no competition for anonymity as well.

OH RLY?

Bitcoin devs can't even agree on a simple block size solution.

And they are going to implement CT, CJ, and more at the protocol level to be used by default with no issues in the transition process. Okay

let me know when you wake up from your dream.
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April 08, 2016, 03:01:24 PM
#12

dnet and others are out. These are fair(er) versions of dash. Looks for them. More will start to flow out soon I'm sure.

Find the fairer clones and support them. Even dashers should realise a 0.001% stake in dash can buy you a 01% stake in the clones. Far better chance of big returns.
Do they have a world-class dev team and a professional, devoted community? I'll stick with Dash. I know a winning team when I see one.

World class dev team? They chose the insecurity of x11, a second rate anonymity method, and topped it off with an instamine and emissions reduction. This level of delusion should be reserved for religions and psych-wards, not technology.

Aren't you the same idiot who tweeted that Evan could cure cancer if he was locked in a room for an hour?
Ad hominems notwithstanding, yes, I'm the same idiot who tweeted that, and you're entitled to your opinion. I used to be like you, skeptical of Dash. But then I did more research, hung around a bit, and let me tell you, there is no more cohesive group in crypto. Everyone focuses on their strengths, and does what they can to improve the project.

The points I made in my article are powerful ones, and they indicate that Dash will stand the test of time.

You should do more research, then you'd realize that the flaws in dash are hardly opinion (but maybe you think Evan will magically cure them after he's done curing cancer).
There are flaws in every crypto. Having the means and the talent to fix them is what separates Dash from the rest. You will start to see it more and more with increased marketcap leading to more capability to finance projects. The flaws will be fixed, but the strengths remain.

Hope isn't a plan. How will the flaws be fixed? And don't sell me by the same genius who built them into the coin. Show me a plan, a white paper, anything but marketing spiel and vague promises. Amateur hour is over.
legendary
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April 08, 2016, 02:52:26 PM
#11

dnet and others are out. These are fair(er) versions of dash. Looks for them. More will start to flow out soon I'm sure.

Find the fairer clones and support them. Even dashers should realise a 0.001% stake in dash can buy you a 01% stake in the clones. Far better chance of big returns.
Do they have a world-class dev team and a professional, devoted community? I'll stick with Dash. I know a winning team when I see one.

World class dev team? They chose the insecurity of x11, a second rate anonymity method, and topped it off with an instamine and emissions reduction. This level of delusion should be reserved for religions and psych-wards, not technology.

Aren't you the same idiot who tweeted that Evan could cure cancer if he was locked in a room for an hour?
Ad hominems notwithstanding, yes, I'm the same idiot who tweeted that, and you're entitled to your opinion. I used to be like you, skeptical of Dash. But then I did more research, hung around a bit, and let me tell you, there is no more cohesive group in crypto. Everyone focuses on their strengths, and does what they can to improve the project.

The points I made in my article are powerful ones, and they indicate that Dash will stand the test of time.

You should do more research, then you'd realize that the flaws in dash are hardly opinion (but maybe you think Evan will magically cure them after he's done curing cancer).
There are flaws in every crypto. Having the means and the talent to fix them is what separates Dash from the rest. You will start to see it more and more with increased marketcap leading to more capability to finance projects. The flaws will be fixed, but the strengths remain.
legendary
Activity: 1750
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Facts are more efficient than fud
April 08, 2016, 02:38:12 PM
#10

dnet and others are out. These are fair(er) versions of dash. Looks for them. More will start to flow out soon I'm sure.

Find the fairer clones and support them. Even dashers should realise a 0.001% stake in dash can buy you a 01% stake in the clones. Far better chance of big returns.
Do they have a world-class dev team and a professional, devoted community? I'll stick with Dash. I know a winning team when I see one.

World class dev team? They chose the insecurity of x11, a second rate anonymity method, and topped it off with an instamine and emissions reduction. This level of delusion should be reserved for religions and psych-wards, not technology.

Aren't you the same idiot who tweeted that Evan could cure cancer if he was locked in a room for an hour?
Ad hominems notwithstanding, yes, I'm the same idiot who tweeted that, and you're entitled to your opinion. I used to be like you, skeptical of Dash. But then I did more research, hung around a bit, and let me tell you, there is no more cohesive group in crypto. Everyone focuses on their strengths, and does what they can to improve the project.

The points I made in my article are powerful ones, and they indicate that Dash will stand the test of time.

You should do more research, then you'd realize that the flaws in dash are hardly opinion (but maybe you think Evan will magically cure them after he's done curing cancer).
legendary
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Dash Nation Founder | CATV Host
April 08, 2016, 02:35:19 PM
#9

dnet and others are out. These are fair(er) versions of dash. Looks for them. More will start to flow out soon I'm sure.

Find the fairer clones and support them. Even dashers should realise a 0.001% stake in dash can buy you a 01% stake in the clones. Far better chance of big returns.
Do they have a world-class dev team and a professional, devoted community? I'll stick with Dash. I know a winning team when I see one.

World class dev team? They chose the insecurity of x11, a second rate anonymity method, and topped it off with an instamine and emissions reduction. This level of delusion should be reserved for religions and psych-wards, not technology.

Aren't you the same idiot who tweeted that Evan could cure cancer if he was locked in a room for an hour?
Ad hominems notwithstanding, yes, I'm the same idiot who tweeted that, and you're entitled to your opinion. I used to be like you, skeptical of Dash. But then I did more research, hung around a bit, and let me tell you, there is no more cohesive group in crypto. Everyone focuses on their strengths, and does what they can to improve the project.

The points I made in my article are powerful ones, and they indicate that Dash will stand the test of time.
legendary
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Facts are more efficient than fud
April 08, 2016, 02:14:50 PM
#8

dnet and others are out. These are fair(er) versions of dash. Looks for them. More will start to flow out soon I'm sure.

Find the fairer clones and support them. Even dashers should realise a 0.001% stake in dash can buy you a 01% stake in the clones. Far better chance of big returns.
Do they have a world-class dev team and a professional, devoted community? I'll stick with Dash. I know a winning team when I see one.

World class dev team? They chose the insecurity of x11, a second rate anonymity method, and topped it off with an instamine and emissions reduction. This level of delusion should be reserved for religions and psych-wards, not technology.

Aren't you the same idiot who tweeted that Evan could cure cancer if he was locked in a room for an hour?
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