Topic: Dash: The Future Internet Of Money? - page 15. (Read 15563 times)

Your post refutes none of the facts presented above.

DASH is a scam. Does not matter if Evans is a doer or not. Evans is a scammer.

Monero is not relevant to this discussion. Start your own monero thread if you have any evidence of wrong doing. You do not hence why there is no well documented monero scam threads. This is diversion only.

There is no haters. I do not hate Evans. He would have done the air drop in my opinion because he knows that the coin can go further without the scam start and that would have made some reparations for the captive instamine and the slashing of the minting. I think he regrets his actions and would like to undo them. I think dash whales around him control him. Like they did the day he offered the air drop. Some say he was not serious. I know he was deadly serious. He is rash and has human traits. He knows offering it admits guilt and wrong doing.

I think he is okay. However, with regards dash he has been a scammer. The coin dash must be crushed. Evans may start another project with a clean sheet. If it proves impossible to crush entirely then it must be always known that it started out as being a premeditated scam and we must anchor that to the project forever. There are many that will not see Dash excused as it stands now.

He can still yet do the right thing.

FUD?

A dashers version of FUD is

FACTS UNCOVERING DECEPTION

there are no new facts required. The facts that exist are enough to demonstrate clearly it is a scam coin.

Go check the polls. Enough polls have been conducted. Dash is known and accepted as the largest scam to date on this board.

I personally think there are a few others that are up there too. They were just slightly less obvious about it.

Since they can't code, they will attack him. Can't wait for their GUI wallet to come out so their community then will realize how foolish they were to follow a coin that has developers who run a gambling site Fluffypony, giving another developer the highest win of 21800 Moneros "while having a guy named ARIEL being the 2nd top loser on Monerodice lol"; while having another developer Smooth working on two projects Aeon/monero and an officially been spam artist in this forum without actually developing any of these coins! amazing right?

What I like about Evan is that he's a doer no matter what haters say about him + the fact that he is an excellent programmer.

You can not bias pure facts like those presented above. These are detailed events that took place. I don't know much about monero. However i'm sure if it was a provable observable scam like xcoin/dark/dash was there would be detailed threads proving this as there is for dash. I can only assume there is no provable observable evidence monero is a scam. However, if you or anyone can prove it is then of course you should go for it. I don't think after 2 years there is anything to find or else it would already have been presented.

This isn't mean to be a pure dash witch hunt. All scams should be highlighted and prevented from shilling on the main board. Not just dash. There are others, Dash is the most obvious I have seen but there are more devious scams happening they have just not grown as large in USD terms as Dash as yet so nobody notices or cares at this point. They will come under closer scrutiny as they grow. So it is foolish to support any scam.

All scams need to be confined to their scam threads if not deleted entirely and reported to any authorities that can deal with them.

well, if any dash post receives loads of troll posts from the same coin/team every-damn-time, then i believe is quite related

what has this got to do with Monero? If you believe Monero is a scam then you should start your own research and present it.

The facts are in the threads. It does not matter how they try to discredit the people that display the facts. It can not change the facts.

Then after all of his excitement caused him to

1. launch before he said he would
2. launch with no windows wallets (every other dev launched with them and was called out for a scammer if they did not)
3. mined it all up at 10x speed anyone else could after they "fixed it"
4. he then got so excited that he slashed the minting back by 75% so he magnified his mistakes in mining up huge amounts of the coin to super super huge

If you read the threads it is all there in black and white. These are facts that have been thrashed out 100X

this taoway or taoofsaatoshi even brough all these facts to light around 2 years ago.

How ever they twist and excuse any other coin would be called a scam for doing all of this and so will dash.

Dash=scam darkcoin =scam xcoin = scam.

Look at the polls conducted on this board.  Check those thread links some are polls

This is also damming evidence

Let's take a look at the first 5 h of Darkcoin (XCoin at that time)...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4589219
Edufield said (after failed launch) that he will wait the next day to launch DRK (XCoin at that time) it is 11 pm.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4591407
Edufield disregard windows wallet and daemon and hurry up his launch, presumably to not have windows miners on board.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4592827
Edufield say he added four nodes for the launch at 4 am (5 hours later, despite his promise to wait). The 4 nodes from Edufield are 3 amazons AWS + another unknown (whois IP). Launch started at 3h54 am.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4593601
Edufield said the github version was not updated, nobody could compile and only Edufield was able to mine until that time. It is 5.09 am and Edufield instamined alone 1153 block at 500 DRK + 60 block at reward 277 = 593120 DRK for him alone in about 1 hour.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4593987
No windows wallet confirmed at 5h47 am, despite a user attempt to make one avaiable, that Edufield dismissed quickly.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4594096
Illodin, understand dev has instamined alot of coin.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4595573
From this list of nodes, at 8h34 am (4h40 after launch) there were 50 Amazon AWS node and 50 microsoft cloud computing instamining DRK (checked using IP whois service). This is 100/124 nodes using cloud computing to instamine DRK. We are at block 2870 and block reward is 500. From block 1153-1729 block reward is 277. After that it is 500 again hence 2294 block at 500 + 576 at 277 = 1306552 DRK (worth about 13M$ now) were instamined in less than 5 hour by Edufield and coworkers using about 100 cloud mining instances. Edufield himself instamined in not even 5 h from 600K to 1169K DRK ((1306K-600K)*100/124 + 600K) depending how many of the 100 cloud mining instance were its own. All this while having purposefully set the difficult ridiculously low and block reward 100 times what it is now.

From 6M$ - 13M$ in 5 h, Edufield did some lucrative work here!

Edufield is nominee for the Master Scammer 2014 award!

Thank you for answering. That's an explanation that seems plausible. Fair enough.

Even if he was so excited and enthusiastic about launching it, as a smart guy, he should have known that his decision will be followed by consequences.  

Maybe it was because of his lack of foresight, but don't you see the troubling implications if that conclusion is right?

too bad those 20x dash thread are written by amateurish finance/crypto "experts" or by borderline psycho trolls. none of them is actually worth a peas, if you are smart.

the content of those posts actually enforces dash position, if you have AT LEAST an IQ > 70 you can barely read that crap, even more getting convinced by those posts or use it for own research


i even looked into monero, the adversary coin with the trolls army, i could not even start a wallet (is there any wallet at all?!???)
now i can really understand all this hate toward dash, this place is full of underage crying kids lol

The only thing that Evan was guilty of is being excited, enthusiastic, and lacking foresight about what he was doing. You have to understand the timing as well. This was a time when several coins were hitting the market every day. Evan was excited about his creation and wanted to launch as soon as possible. His enthusiasm can be seen in the post you quoted.

He still has that enthusiasm to this day, and it's evident with every new groundbreaking idea he comes up with, and every innovation he articulates. He is a visionary, and he's leading a passionate, devoted team. This is where I see the difference in Dash. Building the Internet of Money will not be easy, and it's wonderful to see this team work together. If you don't believe me, just hang out at DashTalk for a while.

Thank you for sharing your opinion, however.

So how is saying one thing and doing another not linkable to bad intent?

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Sorry, not buying it. There hasn't been a shred of evidence, a "smoking gun" if you will, to link Evan to any bad intent. There were mistakes that happened, to be sure, but to say that Evan knowingly perpetrated a scam is preposterous without cold hard indisputable facts. There is tons of documentation as to what happened that day, but none of it proves that it was done intentionally.

I maintain that Evan is a fine, professional individual who is doing a great job leading the team building the Internet Of Money. I read all of your threads, I'm still here. And Dash isn't going away. We are focused on the future, and building a medium of exchange that's private, instant and easy to use for everyone.

Those are the facts, and they are undisputed. I just don't need 20 threads to tell people. This one will do fine.

Not true. Stop diverting. It matters not their motivation if they provide the facts. Facts are facts. They are not changed by motivation or obsession.

You should realised to pump dash else where. Everytime a dasher makes a new pump thread on here it turns into a scam revealing thread. Hence the more threads you make the more threads there will be on google that dash is a scam.

However you try to spin , divert, justify, excuse, lie, cheat, exaggerate, swear, shout, make false claims, etc etc it will not matter because as people read the threads detailing with facts the dash scam they will come to the only logical conclusion there is - - - It's a scam and to be avoided.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/darkcoin-aka-dash-the-biggest-ongoing-scam-in-crypto-995710

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-darkcoin-instamine-2-millions-drks-50-of-darkcoin-in-circulation-560138

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/darkcoin-now-known-as-dash-big-scam-lets-take-a-closer-look-559028

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-start-your-very-own-shitcoin-scam-in-6-easy-steps-inspired-by-drkdash-1173474

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-does-evan-duffield-regret-instamining-drkdash-at-100x-emission-1034864


Perhaps you should read through all of those threads again yourself taoway. It seems the last 2 years has not brought you closer to the path of enlightenment.

Diversify into coins that will never be held back by previous misdeeds. Find clean(er) coins that are beyond reasonable doubt fair. Those that made effort to distribute equally to all that were available and were interested. Don't support such dirty projects as dash.

Even if you will not repent and still you choose to follow this path of dishonesty and dark deeds then at least do not encourage others into the abyss with you. Have some care.

You started well with revealing to the board darkcoins dark past. I aided you with this as best I could. Then others joined and together we made the majority aware of these dark secrets. Do not now sully our memory of you Taoway.

If you are for some reason fascinated by darkcoins/dashcoins features. Why not promote one of the  dashcoin clones that are springing forth?
They are doing the same things but in a fair and open way. Put your energy into something better and you will be rewarded.

it was at the start of the pump..so the pump must go on unhindered 


cherry picking heh?..it is about price manipulation by the top holders of DASH, you Otoh and Evan 

your dumps will come 


butthurt speculators/investors