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Topic: [DASH/XDN/XMR/SDC] Comparison between the most known anonymous coins (MUST READ) - page 22. (Read 33664 times)

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With a marketcap of 330K USD Shadowcash seems out of place. It doesn't from that perspective appear to put it in the same league as the other two.

This is more about the tech and going by that Shadow more than deserves to be included in this list.
legendary
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With a marketcap of 330K USD Shadowcash seems out of place. It doesn't from that perspective appear to put it in the same league as the other two.
legendary
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It's not the problem, the anonymization require a 3RD party app, so it's not end to end.


Darkcoin Wallet daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Darkcoin Masternode daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Notice the difference ? No ? (Thats because there isn't any. Masternodes are wallets).


Ok, the "3rd party app" maybe not fully appropriate, but it makes no difference,

The anonymization is handled by those "configured wallets", it's still not end to end.
+1

by DRK's own admission DRK is a two-tier network.
this is not P2P or end to end

agreed?



Agreed.
legendary
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So "hiding the transaction" is a distinct priority from "showing the transaction" but optimising monetary fungibility. In that sense, cryptonote tech is persuing the former and darkcoin tech is persuing the latter by supporting pre-emptive mixing - or 'melting' while the coins are in the wallet. In darkcoin, the coin supply is being continually anonymised because it gets done in your wallet, the previous wallet, the one before that and the one before that. There is less emphasis on any 1 transaction and more emphasis on keeping the coin supply as a whole anonymous and fungible.


I guess I am not getting Evan's argument for Darkcoin being more fungible than Bitcoin. The US Marshalls Auction proves, at least in the United States, that government authorities don't seem to care whose hands Bitcoin was in previously. DPR's coins are not considered "tainted".
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Lately it seems anon coins are in the mind of everyone so let's awnser questions.
Updated with a fairer and more objective summary





I don't have as much time to spend keeping abreast of things on this site as I'd like so something like this is really useful to me. My thanks to everyone who contributed.

Well you're welcome. Keep in mind that this might change in some times Smiley
legendary
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The anonymization is handled by those "configured wallets", it's still not end to end.

Optimising monetary fungibility is a very different technical objective from implementing "end to end" anonymity.

If we look back at historical monetary media, like gold, there was no "end to end" anonymity in the sense that people wre trying to hide their transactions. But there was full fungibility (at least optionally) due to gold's low melting point.

A minted coin could be recognised from one transaction to the next but then if a pile of them were melted down and turned into bars instead, the coins were no longer recognisable.

So "hiding the transaction" is a distinct priority from "showing the transaction" but optimising monetary fungibility. In that sense, cryptonote tech is persuing the former and darkcoin tech is persuing the latter by supporting pre-emptive mixing - or 'melting' while the coins are in the wallet. In darkcoin, the coin supply is being continually anonymised because it gets done in your wallet, the previous wallet, the one before that and the one before that. There is less emphasis on any 1 transaction and more emphasis on keeping the coin supply as a whole anonymous and fungible.

Whatever the specific comparisons on the effectiveness of cryptography vs mixing, they are largely irrelevant because darkcoin's massive redundancy and iterative approach blows away any deficiency. It's also a more holistic approach which addresses monetary priorities rather than security ones.

For a prospective monetary medium, thats the right way around in my opinion.

hero member
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Lately it seems anon coins are in the mind of everyone so let's awnser questions.
Updated with a fairer and more objective summary





I don't have as much time to spend keeping abreast of things on this site as I'd like so something like this is really useful to me. My thanks to everyone who contributed.
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Evrybody happy with the chart  as it currently stands?
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It's not the problem, the anonymization require a 3RD party app, so it's not end to end.


Darkcoin Wallet daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Darkcoin Masternode daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Notice the difference ? No ? (Thats because there isn't any. Masternodes are wallets).


Ok, the "3rd party app" maybe not fully appropriate, but it makes no difference,

The anonymization is handled by those "configured wallets", it's still not end to end.
+1

by DRK's own admission DRK is a two-tier network.
this is not P2P or end to end

agreed?



In my opinion you're right, not being fanboy to SDC or whatever... This is just the truth, not saying it's bad or good, people will decide, but this is a fact

thanks WealthyBastard
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It's not the problem, the anonymization require a 3RD party app, so it's not end to end.


Darkcoin Wallet daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Darkcoin Masternode daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Notice the difference ? No ? (Thats because there isn't any. Masternodes are wallets).


Ok, the "3rd party app" maybe not fully appropriate, but it makes no difference,

The anonymization is handled by those "configured wallets", it's still not end to end.
+1

by DRK's own admission DRK is a two-tier network.
this is not P2P or end to end

agreed?



In my opinion you're right, not being fanboy to SDC or whatever... This is just the truth, not saying it's bad or good, people will decide, but this is a fact
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000

It's not the problem, the anonymization require a 3RD party app, so it's not end to end.


Darkcoin Wallet daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Darkcoin Masternode daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Notice the difference ? No ? (Thats because there isn't any. Masternodes are wallets).


Ok, the "3rd party app" maybe not fully appropriate, but it makes no difference,

The anonymization is handled by those "configured wallets", it's still not end to end.
+1

by DRK's own admission DRK is a two-tier network.
this is not P2P or end to end

agreed?

legendary
Activity: 868
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It's not the problem, the anonymization require a 3RD party app, so it's not end to end.


Darkcoin Wallet daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Darkcoin Masternode daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Notice the difference ? No ? (Thats because there isn't any. Masternodes are wallets).


Ok, the "3rd party app" maybe not fully appropriate, but it makes no difference,

The anonymization is handled by those "configured wallets", it's still not end to end.
hero member
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is the current state of the chart undisputed?
what else might be missing?
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^ well that takes care of that  Cool
sr. member
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Just tried to build SDC in my windows environment, no dice. I told them about it before and they just shrugged it off.

head to irc #Shadowcash on freenode. Or make a post in the SDC Ann Thread.

I'll forward this up the chain of command. What is the exact problem?

Are you building the 1.3.1.0 source?

So far i have fixed the "sleep" errors and am now getting QWebView: No such file or directory

yes i build everything from source after reviewing it a little.

A quick google search seems to suggest that this is not standard qt build, am i correct?

[15:31] <@SDCDev> That guy who wants to compile for windows... you can't static compile it, that's why we provide the binaries... if he wants to build it, we need to write new documentation... he needs to get Qt 5.3.2+, non static
[15:31] <@SDCDev> then he will be able to build it
[15:32] <@ludx> 19:44 ludx: actually a thing we could add to the wiki would be step by step instructions to build the client Cheesy
[15:34] <@SDCDev> lol... errr its like a 5 page document
[15:34] <@SDCDev> haha
sr. member
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interesting thread ..

Yep man it really is. It should be put as a wiki or something like that
legendary
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legendary
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It's not the problem, the anonymization require a 3RD party app, so it's not end to end.


Darkcoin Wallet daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Darkcoin Masternode daemon:

https://www.darkcoin.io/binaries/darkcoin-0.11.1.25-linux.tar.gz

Notice the difference ? No ? (Thats because there isn't any. Masternodes are wallets).
hero member
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Just tried to build SDC in my windows environment, no dice. I told them about it before and they just shrugged it off.

head to irc #Shadowcash on freenode. Or make a post in the SDC Ann Thread.

I'll forward this up the chain of command. What is the exact problem?

Are you building the 1.3.1.0 source?

So far i have fixed the "sleep" errors and am now getting QWebView: No such file or directory

yes i build everything from source after reviewing it a little.

A quick google search seems to suggest that this is not standard qt build, am i correct?
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250

Just tried to build SDC in my windows environment, no dice. I told them about it before and they just shrugged it off.

head to irc #Shadowcash on freenode. Or make a post in the SDC Ann Thread.

I'll forward this up the chain of command. What is the exact problem?

Are you building the 1.3.1.0 source?

So far i have fixed the "sleep" errors and am now getting QWebView: No such file or directory
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