Topic: DefaultTrust changes - page 133. (Read 84344 times)

It is a bit amazing how confirmed documented scammers found their way into DT.  It caused me to be excluded from DT for previously pointing out their scams. Adjustments are obviously needed to the list, but I’m sure they will come with time, and hopefully before more scams are carried out by these users. They very obviously belong nowhere near any sort of trust list.



Any new system has growing pains. While I believe today’s change empowered a lot of nefarious users who have been trying to manipulate the trust system for a long time, and thus had a head start on these custom trust lists, I have faith the issues will be worked through in time. Thanks for working on this theymos and willingly reducing your control of the system in the name of decentralization.

I have included those three and Philip as well.

I think hilarious is a no-brainer for DT1, unless there is a perceived conflict of interest with his moderation position.
philipma1957 is one of the most valuable members of the forum imo, whether that makes him DT1 material is another matter.
Tomatocage no. That "room mate" routine he pulled was a piss take.

Tomatoface is controlled by Quickseller. So fuck that guy....

Edit - This is how he and OgNasty got me, Zepher, Tman excluded from DT2 overnight about a year ago, the same day We ALL gave OG a bunch of shit!!! ....

He excluded me from his trust list some months ago, and I don't even know the guy--much like zazarb.  Somehow I had a suspicion that the account might be compromised and I think it was discussed at one point.  In any case, don't count on me to do him any favors.

Hilariousandco:  Definitely yes.  I've already got him on my list.
SaltySpitoon:  Yes.  I don't know him at all, but I've read some of his recent posts and seems very level-headed and cogent.  An old-timer who used to be on DT1 who has no history of scamming?  That's a no-brainer.

The rest of them I'm not all that familiar with, except BadBear just by reputation and he's on my list as well.

That was my impression as well.

In a recent thread, I asked about whether adding Jet Cash to my trust list was a good idea or not, but after just reviewing it it looks like I already had him in there.  If anyone has any concerns about that, feel free to let me know but I think he deserves it.

Edit:
Yeah, and me as well if I'm not mistaken.  I was on DT for something like 3 weeks then got excluded by either OgNasty or Tomatocage, but it was the latter that had me a bit puzzled.  He hadn't even been active for a while before coming out of the woodwork to exclude me from his trust list and apparently you and the above members as well, though I don't recall that.  I found that not just a little strange, but very strange.

I had no knowledge of it until after it happened. So... Sorry. BTW, It wasn't even real.

Anyhow, you are wrong and just butthurt like usual. Scammer.

Unless major problems come up, I'm going to reconstruct DT1 again using the published criteria on Monday, so set up your trust lists before then. After that I'll probably switch to doing it near the beginning of each month.

Perhaps it would be a good idea to blacklist Lauda, TMAN and owlcatz, considering they all were part of an extortion attempt....

I definitely feel like hilarious, Salty and BadBear should be getting back, the others I don't know that well to comment. Tomato however, feels iffy.

Yep, looks like it. Where did you get it?

So this is the list for consideration:

BadBear
dserrano5
hilariousandco
Maged
philipma1957
SaltySpitoon
Tomatocage

If you think any of these members have good reliable trust lists and deserve to be back in DT1 - please include them in your list. They may have been unfairly penalized by being in the old DT, which gave less incentive for other users to include them.

Your are welcome you ass kissing piece of excrement.

May Lauda steal from you as much as she steals from others.


 

Isn't it the list?
dserrano5, Maged
By the way, has Badbear changed his name? I can remember I have seen something like this but can't remember. Is that Maged?



https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-the-default-trust-system-still-workingactive-5080581

Sounds like a job for LoyceV!

Ah look who it is.

Well the new design may be an improvement FOR SURE.

However, sadly it seems a couple of terrible things has happened.


1. Lauda who is a proven scam shill and protector has been put in a position of trust.
Not to mention something about 3000BTC being misused whilst under his control??

2. The only people that seemed to dare give him red trust are now missing from DT
Is this correct?

3.Also Lauda is abusing the trust system and trying to use it to silence people telling the truth about his past?



If I am mistaken about any of those things can you point them out?

Facts only

Lauda can you explain why you have given me red trust? thanks

Does someone have a quick way to find out who's been removed from DT1?

Og is excluded by DT1 peers so that doesn't count
hilarious is the only one I recall who didn't make it to DT1 at all
Edit: Salty
Edit2: Tomato
Edit3: philipma1957, BadBear (my memory is lagging horribly)
who else?

We might want to consider reincluding these users for the next round.

Without reading through 10-pages of comments before posting this, I can see this is a big improvement to the trust system.

It was getting stale.

This gives incentive for more people to maintain a healthy custom trust-list without too much hassle in doing so; your new ;dt addition makes it very simple. I'm very pleased to see this change. This is going to move our trust system to be a bit more decentralized without as much potential for abuse as full decentralization would.

Consider adding a "-X/+Y" counter for this page as well, for convenience. Although, I like that ;dt works on the profile page, as well.

I guess not, as far as I know they will only be counted if they have been sent positive feedbacks by people who are on the DT1 Lists,  even if accounts does that exchanging of trust and Merits of atleast 10, they will not be easily added on the list.

You're inclined to let your personal bitch harass an entire forum just because she gave you a blow job.

weak man with weak morals


 

I can agree with that. I have messaged krogo already and he has removed some people (2 which I've explicitly requested - both are mentioned in this thread; and some others chosen by himself). His list is still way too large and includes people that have no idea how this system works.

Very nice. No need for BPIP.

LOL running off now are you.

No chance.

You, tman and lauda need investigating. Your entire history. Your entire trust feedback

I want a factual response from lauda about my red trust and why it was given. I want details. If he can not supply I want them removed at once. And that other asskissing div TMAN.

I will not have red trust for telling a scam promoter he is a scam promoter and protector.

How can revealing facts about his past be a threat if he has not done anything wrong.

Also can you now furnish me with details over his escrow bch debacle and explain exactly how you can be sure lauda is not guilty of wrong doing.

This is a good thing to investigate right here. I mean surely no matter of the greatness of the algo if it allows scam hunters to get red trust for telling a scam promoter and possible escrow scammer that he will ask for the facts to be investigated and relay them to projects he works with???

Are you telling me DT is there to enable the bad guys to silence the people that want to tell the truth about them?

Also I guess if I study all of your 3 post histories and look at your trust feedbacks I will see no reason to think you are colluding.

I mean aside from the fact a few mins after opening a thread concerning lauda giving red trust to silence the FACTS he is a scum bag that TMAN adds more red trust.... hmm just coincidence hey??

No harm investingating you 3 then is there?