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Quote from: Lauda on January 10, 2019, 02:34:16 AM

Excluded krogo until he fixes his list to something much more reasonable (other than pulling in almost every collector into DT2).

same - he is a buddy and I trust him implicitly, though as snap said back in the day..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BRv9wGf5pk

and he needs to use that power wisely.. once he trims the list down he will be straight back on my trust list.

Salty, philipma and hilarious are already on mine, I am totally open to feedback from any established/trusted members on my list

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Quote from: Lauda on January 09, 2019, 07:34:53 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on January 09, 2019, 07:17:49 PM

I have excluded zazarb and krog as well. I'd like to ask other DT1 members to do so at least until these two users clean their trust lists up. It seems they've been adding people they traded with into their lists... who in turn added them perhaps. Not a good use of the system IMO. Nothing against them personally.

I can agree with that. I have messaged krogo already and he has removed some people (2 which I've explicitly requested - both are mentioned in this thread; and some others chosen by himself). His list is still way too large and includes people that have no idea how this system works.

Excluded krogo until he fixes his list to something much more reasonable (other than pulling in almost every collector into DT2).

Quote from: suchmoon on January 09, 2019, 08:00:14 PM

Edit: Salty
Edit2: Tomato
Edit3: philipma1957, BadBear (my memory is lagging horribly)
who else?
We might want to consider reincluding these users for the next round.

Tomato is a big no, BadBear seems inactive (and I'm against adding inactive users, especially now given that they can cause more trouble). I've already added hilariousandco, maybe philipma and Salty are next.

Zin-Zang

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Quote from: MadZ on January 10, 2019, 01:51:27 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:46:22 AM

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:41:59 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:24:03 AM

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:14:32 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:06:54 AM

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers. I can understand why you hate Lauda LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

Cool

You still sound mentally demented though which is why you're worth tagging Grin

And how would you sound when wronged, with no recourse in the corrupt system to clear your name.

Oh, I know, you kiss their ass and cry like a baby.

Sorry, not my style.

Cool

You know, just because you add Cool

to every post doesn’t mean you don’t come across salty af. It’s not fooling anyone.

Good to know.

Cool

MadZ

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Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:46:22 AM

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:41:59 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:24:03 AM

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:14:32 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:06:54 AM

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers. I can understand why you hate Lauda LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

Cool

You still sound mentally demented though which is why you're worth tagging Grin

And how would you sound when wronged, with no recourse in the corrupt system to clear your name.

Oh, I know, you kiss their ass and cry like a baby.

Sorry, not my style.

Cool

You know, just because you add Cool

to every post doesn’t mean you don’t come across salty af. It’s not fooling anyone.

Zin-Zang

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Killing Lightning Network with a 51% Ignore attack

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:41:59 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:24:03 AM

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:14:32 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:06:54 AM

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers. I can understand why you hate Lauda LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

Cool

You still sound mentally demented though which is why you're worth tagging Grin

And how would you sound when wronged, with no recourse in the corrupt system to clear your name.

Oh, I know, you kiss their ass and cry like a baby.

Sorry, not my style.

Cool

fudster

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Activity: 1190

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Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:24:03 AM

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:14:32 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:06:54 AM

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers. I can understand why you hate Lauda LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

Cool

You still sound mentally demented though which is why you're worth tagging Grin

o_e_l_e_o

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Am I right in saying that only DT1s can exclude another member from DT1? So even if you have 100 users (with >10 merit) actively excluding you, as long as you have 10 including you, you will become DT1, unless the other DT1 members exclude you?

Also, I think LoyceV might already be working on this, but a page which shows everyone's votes from users with >10 and >100 merit would be nice. It woild certainly help DT1s to see who is close to inclusion, and whether they want to exclude (or support) that person prior to them getting on.

Zin-Zang

member

Activity: 364

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Killing Lightning Network with a 51% Ignore attack

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 01:14:32 AM

Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:06:54 AM

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers. I can understand why you hate Lauda LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

Thanks.

She tagged me because she did not like my opinion.

No other reason.

Cool

TheNewAnon135246

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Quote from: figmentofmyass on January 10, 2019, 01:17:36 AM

these are pretty sweeping changes. what do people expect the net effect to be?

it seems like getting default trust feedback (green or red) will become a lot more likely, since many more people will become eligible for DT1 vs now. it'll be interesting to see how retaliation/feedback countering plays out.

Using the trust system for retaliation will likely get you removed from DT1. I'm not sure how the new system will play out but it seems likely that people will try to remain DT1 by following the rules.

figmentofmyass

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these are pretty sweeping changes. what do people expect the net effect to be?

it seems like getting default trust feedback (green or red) will become a lot more likely, since many more people will become eligible for DT1 vs now. it'll be interesting to see how retaliation/feedback countering plays out.

fudster

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Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:06:54 AM

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Not really stupid because the forum worth cleaning along with the scammers. I can understand why you hate Lauda LOL but I can also understand why Lauda tagged some.

TheNewAnon135246

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Quote from: Zin-Zang on January 10, 2019, 01:06:54 AM

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Why are you worrying about it so much if it isn't worth a damn?

Zin-Zang

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Killing Lightning Network with a 51% Ignore attack

The whole stupid DT system should be scrapped,

It was never worth a damn and still won't be.

Cool

Hhampuz

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Meh.

Quote from: fudster on January 10, 2019, 12:54:27 AM

Do you think it will be abused more now because anyone now can create a team of 10 and add each other on their trust list?

If anything, with these changes with monthly rotations and all, this will be the best solution moving forward. The previous DT system was outdated and although the system as a whole wasn't abused but perhaps a few people within it abused their power there'll always be bad apples. At least now it'll be more of a community vote which is great in moving towards decentralization.

Either way, the whole point of this seems to be for people to create their own trust lists while also forming their own opinions. Which may in time make the DT system obsolete.

fudster

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Do you think it will be abused more now because anyone now can create a team of 10 and add each other on their trust list?

TMAN

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Quote from: owlcatz on January 10, 2019, 12:48:04 AM

not my choice/decision to be here! Tongue

Same bud, if I’m still on it next week then cool, if not then still cool. All I can do is make sure I am more impartial, fair and open to criticism than others who were previously on DT..

It’s down to the community now and that’s what we all wanted

owlcatz

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Quote from: TMAN on January 10, 2019, 12:47:13 AM

Quote from: owlcatz on January 10, 2019, 12:43:55 AM

Quote from: TMAN on January 10, 2019, 12:42:42 AM

Am I correct in thinking that if someone is excluded from DT-1 they will also become ineligible for DT-2 ?

yes, as far I understood theymos' post the user is untrusted by default on all levels..

Muchos butthurtious gonna be knocking about then

probably... not my choice/decision to be here! Tongue

TMAN

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Quote from: owlcatz on January 10, 2019, 12:43:55 AM

Quote from: TMAN on January 10, 2019, 12:42:42 AM

Am I correct in thinking that if someone is excluded from DT-1 they will also become ineligible for DT-2 ?

yes, as far I understood theymos' post the user is untrusted by default on all levels..

Muchos butthurtious gonna be knocking about then

owlcatz

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Quote from: TMAN on January 10, 2019, 12:42:42 AM

Am I correct in thinking that if someone is excluded from DT-1 they will also become ineligible for DT-2 ?

yes, as far I understood theymos' post the user is untrusted by default on all levels..

TMAN

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Am I correct in thinking that if someone is excluded from DT-1 they will also become ineligible for DT-2 ?

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