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Who originally voted you on DT?

I did answer.  You excluded me in February 2018.  When did the aTriz stuff come to light?  What was your original reason for justifying excluding me from your trust list?  It certainly wasn't that.  You're making up reasons after the fact.

What you think is no longer important Suchscamoon.

Nobody needs to listen to you any longer because you are a self diagnosed scammer.

Deny it ??  or accept it?

You are a scammer protector and enabler. Now you too are a scammer? can you red trust yourself please so you are not a provable hypocrite.

Or explain your actions



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview

I think we're supposed to police ourselves. Keep in mind that if you have at least 10 earned merits (which you do) your vote matters. Keep your list up to date, include/exclude users based on how you value their judgement. Theymos can blacklist but I would imagine that will be rare.

Since you didn’t answer... Yes, you trusted aTriz as he pulled ICO scams alongside Lauda using their shared brand. Not only did you trust someone actively scamming, you then added his partner to your trust network where he sits today even after being a major part of another ICO scam and refusing to be transparent with his escrow duties. Horrible judgement or nefarious support of a scam ring? Either way, you don’t deserve to be in a position of having your opinions valued. That should be obvious, so I’m at a loss for how this community wants to move forward in establishing a trustworthy trust rating system while putting people like you in positions of trust.

You do abuse newbies I just posted the link

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/negative-rating-from-the-pharmacist-5063753

You said you are unsure if lauda is a scammer or not yourself LOL  but will support him anyway because you are his bitch
You can't support people to be mods or DT if you are unsure if they are scammers you dumb sap

How did a nothing burger like you get on DT and Merit source anyway.

Who first voted the pharmacist on to DT ?  was lauda involved by any chance???
was owlcatz or tman involved?  maybe even suchmoon?

what kind of dirty schemers are we uncovering here now we start to look back at things because it is quite worrying.

Don't play that bumbling nice guy.... you are an evil little tyrant when you think you can push newbies about. I have no clue how someone as clearly stupid as you has even got into these positions. Lauda is a scam pumping devious schemer so I am not shocked that is infesting all kinds of positions. You are obviously his dumb puppet like Tman and owlcatz. Time for a blacklist on any shady characters.

A full analysis of entire post histories and connections between them should be done. Freeze their accounts whilst we examine them

Suchmoon too if he continues to be a scammer by his own definition of a scammer.

These are not spurious accusations. I can back anything I say with corroborating events or clear evidence in their post histories. Freeze their histories for close inspection now. Then we will take a look through them together.

Now, the dt list is start to dynamically changing due to inclusions and exclusions in their individual trust list, zazarb is removed out of dt1, tomatocage too in dt2, and many others has added.

By any chance, is there any punishment to those who are confirmed doing this? Or just removing in the list, and will not be added after all. Or?

Yeah, OK.  You excluded me from your trust list when?  It was on or before 2/10/18, because that's when I got booted off DT2 the first time I was on it.  Can't remember if it was you or Tomatocage's exclusion that did it. 

When did the aTriz scam get discovered?  Oh yeah, it was around April:


So aTriz had nothing to do with it.  It's not about me abusing newbies and discouraging their progress on the forum as you first claimed.  It's about Lauda and nothing else, and you were never honest about that. 

After briefly looking through the DT list I see that most people that were already there still are, but obviously I don't remember all of them and there's surely a few missing. LoyceV is good at what he does though so I'm sure he'll have a list for us sooner or later

Is this not like proof of total collusion for a start? I mean is this how it is really meant to work?
So we will work hard now to get back in the ones we want that the algo got out but we will not do anything to get rid of scam pumpers that just got put back in??

Or am I getting that all wrong? is that not what is happening?


I think you missed my question suchmoon?

Can you tell me by your prior definition that is in your post history are you a scammer or not?

Please answer because it seems like you are unwilling to.

Are you trying to get lauda off of DT or leaving him on. Because if you are leaving him on then by your own publicly available definition you are a scammer.

Are you a scammer now? I just want to know how to address you in future.

Remember promoting or enabling scammers or scams makes you a scammer. Remember you said that the other day?

Are you pro lauda being on DT or not? if so then you are a scammer. I hope you understand I can clearly prove it according to your own definition.

oh hold on suchmoon you are a scammer by your very own definition. I hope you will accept me addressing you as suchscamoon

Laudas support group ??

TMAN -reported to be in a scam with lauda and owlcatz
Blazed
suchmoon (*suchscamoon) a self diagnosed scammer
owlcatz - reported to be in a scam with lauda and tman
JohnUser - only trusted by Lauda and owlcatz HMMMM
BitcoinPenny
The Pharmacist - but he says in his post history does not know if lauda is a scammer or not but will support him out of loyalty anyway...sounds like a good plan???

hmmmm well I see TMAN, THE PHARMACIST OWLCATZ  SUCHMOON  JohnUser that is only there because of owlcatz and lauda lol


So let's break this down

TMAN and OWLcats = are they  part of the same apparent scam as Lauda? the extortion one?

Johnuser = only there because of owlcatz and lauda lol

The pharmacist  says I don't know if lauda is a scammer or not but I will support him because I am his loyal bitch anyway.

Suchmoon = well he is now looking like a total scammer by his own definition of a scammer and the same criteria he has used to justify leaving the red scam tags on many people

never heard of the others.

This looks like a very bad start indeed to DT.

I am getting more trustworthy by the second with my red trust coming from this exact group of dirty scamps.

I think I will send TRADEFORTRESS all my BTC to look after because I want it to be really safe and by the looks of his score and how DT works now I will be sure to find it not one satoshi short when I ask for it back in a few years.

That's sorted out but there's still a challenge for LoyceV: get a list of removed DT2 members. I know the whole DT concept is now going to be more fluid so we shouldn't be too fixated on the old system but still I'd like to know if there are any worthy former members who ended up not included in the new system.

I excluded you because your ratings are shit. Didn’t you trust aTriz as he was scamming everyone with lies and fake ICOs?  Now you have Lauda who is a documented extortionist included in your trust network... You’re a good example of a user who should be blacklisted... Your judgement is awful.

Not about opinons and grudges I'm afraid.

Its about observable factual events demonstrating scam pumping protecting and enabling and other abuse

I notice lauda tried to remove this abuse today all of a sudden

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49144312

look who immediately pop up to merit the guy for being grateful the abuse ended.

Yes the pharmacist Who claims in public he is unable to decide if lauda is a scammer or not but will support him anyway for DT because he feels he is loyal to him.
WTF? and this clown is DT too.

Oh, so this is the reason we have three topics mentioning Lauda bumped or created today....


Newbies spammed he section for a few months each time, people involved in the DT war are holding grudges for years.
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Grabbing some popcorn and subscribing to Tman's list, I'm in the mood for some picturesque descriptions of human and not only interactions:

Suchmoon are you by your own definition a scammer? Because I just want to ask you before I demonstrate using your own criteria for scammer that I think you may be. I mean I want you to answer first. Then I provide your own quotes to demonstrate why you by your own words define yourself as a scammer. Unless of course you are about to strike lauda off your DT list.

Yep bury all FACTS about scammers infesting DT in rep where they can easily be ignored.

As DT why are you not explaining why you are not voting lauda out at once .... do you support/enable scammers? answer me coward

I thought you said those supporting or enabling scammers are scammers themselves?  are you a scammer then suchmoon?

And you excluded me from your trust list because of what, again?  I think your stated reason was that I was picking on newbies or something like that, something completely unrelated to ever scamming anyone.  I've never had any beef with you except for that, which caused me to be booted from DT2 the first time I got added.  I think we disagree over Quickseller's 'self-escrow' thing, but the real reason I'm pretty sure is that you think I'm on the wrong side of the OgNasty/Lauda squabble.  It's more of a feud, actually, and I want no part of it.  

I have a feeling you'll get back on DT again anyway.  I'd almost be willing to bet money on it (but I'm currently broke).

A'ight, fair enough.  I had to respond to Og's post, though.

I have a somewhat tangential request... please everyone let's try to maintain some order in Meta and Reputation. Please report any threads about individual members to be moved to Reputation and merged into no more than one per member, and any generic DT complaints - just merge them into one or smth, plus there is this thread already. I don't know if moderators will agree but let's just try. Otherwise this will be 10x worse than newbie merit invasion.


This thread is fine, I'm more worried to wake up to 20 new Lauda threads tomorrow

LOL cool story bro

Get these scum bags out ffs. They make a mockery of anything related to being trustworthy.

Also where are the details of this?

Present the evidence and perhaps some DT members will do the responsible thing.

This is a seperate issue to the scam promoting and protecting and issue claiming 3000btc escrow funds being misused for personal gains?

Obviously not the pharmacist because he already told me

I don't understand if lauda is a scammer or not since I do not have the technical knowledge to analyse the observable events...but I support him anyway out of loyalty ..... LOL haha yeah another good one for DT

DT is Default Trust right? not Devious Traitors , Dishonest Turds?  Perhaps green is signalling danger? I had it all wrong?

I mean when scam highlighters and  fighters get more and more red from those same scam pumpers and protectors he fought and brought attention to you know the system is kind of malfunctioning right now.

That's great. Looking at it I didn't have BadBear on my list, won't have much effect in the whole with me adding him but he is someone that I'd trust although I've never had any real interaction with him. There's actually a few people I've added to my list that I've never met or spoken to but they do good stuff here at the forum which gives me peace of mind.

Even if the algo is going to work long term there is no reason that these ones can not be blacklisted immediately before further damage is done.

Any DT not removing them at once is actually part of the issue and needs removing.

Let's have a clean out.