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Quote from: TryNinja on January 09, 2019, 06:44:43 PM

It turns out you can't add an empty list I had to fill it with ~defaultttrust

Anyone knows if this counts as an -1 score on everybody on trust list if you are on DT1?

I would assume yes unless there is some sort of different way that particular exclusion is handled. I'm not willing to try it given that my list is big and that exclusions work in real time (?):

Everyone is 0 for me Grin

Although it's hard to see on meta.

The lending scammers were on zero too. I guess with a negative from vod that would've pushed them positive if that was the case.

Vinsin is zero too.

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Quote from: TryNinja on January 09, 2019, 06:44:43 PM

It turns out you can't add an empty list I had to fill it with ~defaultttrust

Anyone knows if this counts as an -1 score on everybody on trust list if you are on DT1?

I would assume yes unless there is some sort of different way that particular exclusion is handled. I'm not willing to try it given that my list is big and that exclusions work in real time (?):

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It only bumps Jet Cash up for you.

You are not on DT, so your rating only changes the way you see other people's ratings (unless someone has you on his trust list; in that case, everybody you adds on your trust list becomes DT1 for those users).

Err that's what I meant. Dt no longer exists for me since I have wiped the entire list Grin

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It only bumps Jet Cash up for you.

You are not on DT, so your rating only changes the way you see other people's ratings (unless someone has you on his trust list; in that case, everybody you adds on your trust list becomes DT1 for those users).

Quote from: eddie13 on January 09, 2019, 02:21:09 PM

It turns out you can't add an empty list I had to fill it with ~defaultttrust

Anyone knows if this counts as an -1 score on everybody on DT list if you are on DT1?

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OK now they have changed.. OgNasty is out wow..

Ya, I'm pretty shocked by this. Not as shocked as I am with the current #1 trusted user being someone who has been confirmed to dox users and was just involved with a non-transparent escrow scam with the current second most trusted member and a former disgraced staff member turned DT now, but theymos must have his reasons for doing things this way. Unfortunately, an accurate trust rating system doesn't seem to be the highest priority anymore. In any event, congrats to those who are happy with the changes. Hopefully crafting a hands-off approach will quiet some of whining around here and give theymos a break from complaints.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 09, 2019, 06:38:11 PM

Quote from: jackg on January 09, 2019, 06:37:14 PM

I deleted the entire trust list and I'm still on 13 -0/+3?

Your actual rating is: Trust: 11: -0 / +2; can view it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jackg-543626.

Ah that's what I did.
I added vod to my trust list and it bumped jet Cash up.

I'll just leave that list empty then if I can't add anything to it without producing uproar.

It turns out you can't add an empty list I had to fill it with ~defaultttrust

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Quote from: jackg on January 09, 2019, 06:37:14 PM

I deleted the entire trust list and I'm still on 13 -0/+3?

Your actual rating is: Trust: 11: -0 / +2; can view it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jackg-543626.

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Quote from: Lauda on January 09, 2019, 06:32:41 PM

Quote from: MadZ on January 09, 2019, 06:31:19 PM

Would it not be logical that when one leaves a positive or negative trust for someone, that one's own trust list should automatically change to either respectively include that member or exclude (~) them? Or at least to have that option in Settings?

It kinda does.

It does not.

I thought that's how the system works.
You give someone a positive they love up to your DT0?

No. If you add people in your list just because they sent you a positive rating, then you are doing it wrong (and/or likely intentionally abusing it to boost your score).

This is known as CanaryInTheMine syndrome.

This. There would be probably stronger consequences for doing this again given that DT1 is expanding in size.

I'm just lost now.

I deleted the entire trust list and I'm still on 13 -0/+3?

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Quote from: MadZ on January 09, 2019, 06:31:19 PM

Would it not be logical that when one leaves a positive or negative trust for someone, that one's own trust list should automatically change to either respectively include that member or exclude (~) them? Or at least to have that option in Settings?

It kinda does.

It does not.

I thought that's how the system works.
You give someone a positive they love up to your DT0?

No. If you add people in your list just because they sent you a positive rating, then you are doing it wrong (and/or likely intentionally abusing it to boost your score).

This is known as CanaryInTheMine syndrome.

This. There would be probably stronger consequences for doing this again given that DT1 is expanding in size.

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Would it not be logical that when one leaves a positive or negative trust for someone, that one's own trust list should automatically change to either respectively include that member or exclude (~) them? Or at least to have that option in Settings?

I don't think so. You may give someone positive feedback due to a good trade or specific case. But this doesn't mean that you trust this user entirely and whoever he also trusts.

I thought that's how the system works.
You give someone a positive they move up to your DT0?

It's not. Someone only becomes your DT0 when you manually add them into your trust list. All that giving someone feedback does is changing his trust rating (in case you are in DT or if someone has you in his trust list, otherwise, your feedback becomes untrusted and doesn't count for the rating).

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Would it not be logical that when one leaves a positive or negative trust for someone, that one's own trust list should automatically change to either respectively include that member or exclude (~) them? Or at least to have that option in Settings?

It kinda does.

It does not.

I thought that's how the system works.
You give someone a positive they love up to your DT0?

This is known as CanaryInTheMine syndrome.

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Would it not be logical that when one leaves a positive or negative trust for someone, that one's own trust list should automatically change to either respectively include that member or exclude (~) them? Or at least to have that option in Settings?

It kinda does.

It does not.

I thought that's how the system works.
You give someone a positive they move up to your DT0?

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It kinda does.

Well it doesn’t, just because I have done a load of physical deals over the years doesn’t mean I would take DT seriously. In my case I actually will start tagging people and will re evaluate all previous tags, but the 2 things don’t go hand in hand

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Would it not be logical that when one leaves a positive or negative trust for someone, that one's own trust list should automatically change to either respectively include that member or exclude (~) them? Or at least to have that option in Settings?

It kinda does.

It does not.

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Would it not be logical that when one leaves a positive or negative trust for someone, that one's own trust list should automatically change to either respectively include that member or exclude (~) them? Or at least to have that option in Settings?

It kinda does.
I sent a positive to jet Cash for a trade we did and he did likewise.

We are both on each other's trust list. His trust scores impact mine based on his positive trust.
As I gave btccrazy1 a positive,his will also affect mine too.

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