Topic: DefaultTrust changes - page 136. (Read 85467 times)

There is nothing... Don't waste your time. Your health is more important, so get back on your meds, buddy!

LaudaM you proven scam promoting scum bag. How do you get back on DT.

You have demonstrated already you seek to use DT to silence scam hunters revealing who the real scam promoters and enablers here.

You should be removed at once. It makes a mockery of the system that you are DT.

I also wish for a factual account of why you have left me red trust or else remove it at once and instruct your dumb asskissing moron bitch TMAN to remove his too.

I think TMAN, OWLCATZ AND LAUDA need to have their post histories frozen and analysed for wrong doing and collusion. You can't allow these types to infiltrate systems of trust here without looking into them.

Lauda's own trust feedback looks dreadful. I mean I know for a fact he was a scam promoter and enabler for years but now i hear more dubious and shady sounding things about escrowing and taking 3000 forked bch from a project full of investors that got ripped off??

I would like to see a full investigation into that for sure before allowing this person into a position of trust.

I also think it is the duty of all DT to find any project he is dealing with now or in future and allowing them access to the facts so they can make an informed decision??

DT is no there to help scammers silence the scam hunters is it???

I only want to hear the facts about LaudaM Lauda and the facts about TMAN and OWLCATZ. I think remove them until full analysis is conducted because if they are as bad as some say and working together then they could cause huge damage here.

It is worrying to see such collusion already amongst those entrusted to DT. I mean I make a FACTUAL THREAD about DT new algo allowing shady scum like lauda in moments later TMAN that low functioning imbecile thinks he is helping lauda but just demonstrates how open the system is to collusion and crushing free speech demonstrating FACTS.

There can be no argument against what I am saying it just happened in black and white.

Lauda is scum. Get that wretch out of DT.

One is mine (I find his list questionable at best). It isn't easy, but you have to look through this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full. It seems that he is back again?

I think there was something wrong. I saw same as you but now it seems ok.

It's your list, feel free.
You can stick me on it too if you like, I'm a very nice chap and honest as the day is long.  

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Oh good, I thought it was just me. I wonder why that is then?

It doesn't seem like this page lists all of the exclusions for some reason? Looks like Lauda has an exclusion, BitcoinPenny has an inclusion and I can't find anything else for zarzab.

Seriously.  I tried doing the old ~DefaultTrust thing a couple years ago and didn't make a custom list and thus couldn't tell who was who anymore.  You really need some sort of list if you're going to do any business with people or feel like you're going to have to trust what they say (unless you feel like manually checking every single time).

I have a relatively short trust list that Lauda suggested a while back with a couple of modifications, and I'm going to just keep it as is for the time being.  I wouldn't mind eventually adding Jet Cash to it, since I do trust him and he's done quite a bit for newbies and the forum at no cost to himself.  Anybody opposed to that?

I know that, believe me, but I don't want to start any potential drama before acting since this is all brand new and soliciting opinions isn't a bad thing.  I'd been thinking about it for a while, though my status on DT2 wouldn't have mattered much up until today when I got bumped.  There are some others I'm thinking about as well, but the vast majority of my functioning neurons are screaming at me to just sit still for now and not do anything. 

I wasn't happy with defaulttrust so I built a custom list and:


I added people I've traded with. I added vod and jet Cash and then thought I'd add the pharmacist as he's normally pretty accurate with trust ratings.

But now I guess I'm free of the trust system entirely so...

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I don't trade too often with many people here and I generally take a habit of going through people's trust histories just in case there is something hidden or overlooked by dts.

Is default trust on dt2? I thought I spotted it earlier...

Edit: darkstar made the list too along with loyce. (My list I mean).

Everyone is 0 for me
Although it's hard to see on meta.

The lending scammers were on zero too. I guess with a negative from vod that would've pushed them positive if that was the case.

Vinsin is zero too.

I would assume yes unless there is some sort of different way that particular exclusion is handled. I'm not willing to try it given that my list is big and that exclusions work in real time (?):

Err that's what I meant. Dt no longer exists for me since I have wiped the entire list .

It only bumps Jet Cash up for you.

You are not on DT, so your rating only changes the way you see other people's ratings (unless someone has you on his trust list; in that case, everybody you adds on your trust list becomes DT1 for those users).

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Anyone knows if this counts as an -1 score on everybody on DT list if you are on DT1?

Ya, I'm pretty shocked by this.  Not as shocked as I am with the current #1 trusted user being someone who has been confirmed to dox users and was just involved with a non-transparent escrow scam with the current second most trusted member and a former disgraced staff member turned DT now, but theymos must have his reasons for doing things this way.  Unfortunately, an accurate trust rating system doesn't seem to be the highest priority anymore.  In any event, congrats to those who are happy with the changes.  Hopefully crafting a hands-off approach will quiet some of whining around here and give theymos a break from complaints.  

Ah that's what I did.
I added vod to my trust list and it bumped jet Cash up.

I'll just leave that list empty then if I can't add anything to it without producing uproar.

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It turns out you can't add an empty list I had to fill it with ~defaultttrust

Your actual rating is: Trust:    11: -0 / +2; can view it here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jackg-543626.

I'm just lost now.

I deleted the entire trust list and I'm still on 13 -0/+3?

No. If you add people in your list just because they sent you a positive rating, then you are doing it wrong (and/or likely intentionally abusing it to boost your score).

This. There would be probably stronger consequences for doing this again given that DT1 is expanding in size.

I don't think so. You may give someone positive feedback due to a good trade or specific case. But this doesn't mean that you trust this user entirely and whoever he also trusts.

It's not. Someone only becomes your DT0 when you manually add them into your trust list. All that giving someone feedback does is changing his trust rating (in case you are in DT or if someone has you in his trust list, otherwise, your feedback becomes untrusted and doesn't count for the rating).