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legendary
Activity: 1302
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Technical Analyst/Trader
November 14, 2014, 11:48:00 AM
#92
So where is the S5 information, it was supposed to ship tomorrow.

I'm looking forward to seeing it on bitmaintech.com as well.  I keep checking their website at least once an hour.  They may have delays for some reason or another.  Maybe doing more extensive testing to avoid another Batch 1 fiasco like the S4 had.  However, all may be well and they just want to wait till tomorrow for whatever reason.  It could be that magazine just wanted to create a stir and try to get hits on their website.  Who knows?
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
November 14, 2014, 11:42:14 AM
#91
yes for the looks, but also you can route the pipes and dump the heat 1mile away... also more heat can be moved with water than air
nos for cooling? not worth, not even LN2!
water is the last stage for home user. afte that you have to go a bit pro with freon cooling or submerging in special liquid!


Thanks for the reply.

Interesting...

Thanks.  I'm sure there are many other mining geeks out there trying to come up with a unit that can keep the heat down while keeping the costs down per unit to try to obtain an attractive ROI.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
November 14, 2014, 08:20:38 AM
#90
yes for the looks, but also you can route the pipes and dump the heat 1mile away... also more heat can be moved with water than air
nos for cooling? not worth, not even LN2!
water is the last stage for home user. afte that you have to go a bit pro with freon cooling or submerging in special liquid!
sr. member
Activity: 273
Merit: 250
November 14, 2014, 08:18:09 AM
#89
So where is the S5 information, it was supposed to ship tomorrow.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
November 14, 2014, 08:16:45 AM
#88
electronics wise water cooled might conme 0.01% less than air cooled

so we will have s1, s3 format with better randament than the previous 2...

Thanks for the info!

Wow, sounds like the liquid cooling is just more there for looking, well, "cool."   LOL
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
November 14, 2014, 08:14:48 AM
#87
Quote
 Approximately .098 annually per kWH.

I'm stuck at the variable 0.0121

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AND EVERYTHING IN MY APARTMENT RUNS ON ELECTRICITY



When I say my approximate annual power rate is .098 cents per kWH, it is an average because of the different costs for the time of year, taxes and fees.  I posted my power costs in the State of Alabama in a previous post in this forum.

We would do well if the S5 has a lower watts per Gh/s rating than the S4.  It could be even better if it actually is liquid cooled to reduce heat which would also reduce electricity costs during the hotter months.  I just hope the price is not outrageous to make the ROI outrageous!

Liquid cooling does not reduce the amount of heat generated. Liquid cooling simply removes the heat from the chip more efficiently than air cooling. The same amount of heat is generated and is emitted from a liquid-cooled device as is from an air-cooled device. Heat doesn't just magically disappear.

xtra8,

I'm curious, approximately how many degrees celsius do these rigs stay at that are liquid cooled?  It sounds like liquid cooling is there only to help units hash faster with no benefit whatsoever regarding keeping the ambient air around the unit cooler.  What a let down.  Maybe they ought to try Nitro Cooling (cooling with nitrogen oxide) or Freon cooling if they are going to bother with tubes and such.  Just a thought.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
November 14, 2014, 08:14:29 AM
#86
electronics wise water cooled might conme 0.01% less than air cooled

so we will have s1, s3 format with better randament than the previous 2...
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
November 14, 2014, 08:08:44 AM
#85
any information will it be liqiud cooled ?

i think its safe to say NO. simply because the naming system used by Bitmain indicates that the C2,C3, Cx series is watercooled and the S-series is air cooled

Good point.

Learn something all the time.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
November 14, 2014, 08:06:45 AM
#84

I see no need to respond further. You seem to have been able to rationalize the irrational with lots of words strung together. I wish you luck in your endeavors.

LOL


Thank you

That goes both ways!

Good luck to you as well.

By the way, that sounds like something a Progressive would say rather than a Bitcoin Libertarian like myself.

Why bring politics into this? But good guess! I am a proud progressive, dare I say liberal, lol.
LOL


Maybe I can convert you, but I doubt it.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
November 14, 2014, 08:05:55 AM
#83
Quote
 Approximately .098 annually per kWH.

I'm stuck at the variable 0.0121

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AND EVERYTHING IN MY APARTMENT RUNS ON ELECTRICITY



When I say my approximate annual power rate is .098 cents per kWH, it is an average because of the different costs for the time of year, taxes and fees.  I posted my power costs in the State of Alabama in a previous post in this forum.

We would do well if the S5 has a lower watts per Gh/s rating than the S4.  It could be even better if it actually is liquid cooled to reduce heat which would also reduce electricity costs during the hotter months.  I just hope the price is not outrageous to make the ROI outrageous!

Liquid cooling does not reduce the amount of heat generated. Liquid cooling simply removes the heat from the chip more efficiently than air cooling. The same amount of heat is generated and is emitted from a liquid-cooled device as is from an air-cooled device. Heat doesn't just magically disappear.

Learn something all the time.

Thank you
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
November 14, 2014, 07:41:24 AM
#82
any information will it be liqiud cooled ?

i think its safe to say NO. simply because the naming system used by Bitmain indicates that the C2,C3, Cx series is watercooled and the S-series is air cooled
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
November 14, 2014, 05:41:07 AM
#81
any information will it be liqiud cooled ?

No specs have been released yet, so no one knows. Supposedly we'll know on the 15th.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
November 14, 2014, 05:24:40 AM
#80
any information will it be liqiud cooled ?
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
November 14, 2014, 05:08:48 AM
#79

I see no need to respond further. You seem to have been able to rationalize the irrational with lots of words strung together. I wish you luck in your endeavors.

LOL


Thank you

That goes both ways!

Good luck to you as well.

By the way, that sounds like something a Progressive would say rather than a Bitcoin Libertarian like myself.

Why bring politics into this? But good guess! I am a proud progressive, dare I say liberal, lol.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
November 14, 2014, 05:04:41 AM
#78
Quote
 Approximately .098 annually per kWH.

I'm stuck at the variable 0.0121

...
...
...

AND EVERYTHING IN MY APARTMENT RUNS ON ELECTRICITY



When I say my approximate annual power rate is .098 cents per kWH, it is an average because of the different costs for the time of year, taxes and fees.  I posted my power costs in the State of Alabama in a previous post in this forum.

We would do well if the S5 has a lower watts per Gh/s rating than the S4.  It could be even better if it actually is liquid cooled to reduce heat which would also reduce electricity costs during the hotter months.  I just hope the price is not outrageous to make the ROI outrageous!

Liquid cooling does not reduce the amount of heat generated. Liquid cooling simply removes the heat from the chip more efficiently than air cooling. The same amount of heat is generated and is emitted from a liquid-cooled device as is from an air-cooled device. Heat doesn't just magically disappear.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
November 14, 2014, 03:38:06 AM
#77
this is antminer S5 thread which turned into a KW/H price thread, wtf Huh
go with this somewhere else !

wtf,

no it didn't.

can't you read?

Someone was trying to say we should not buy an S5 or any rig for that matter.  They referred to power costs as being one of the culprits.  I simply pointed out how mining from home is still profitable for most miners which included their power costs.  That's IF you are referring to page 4 of this topic.

Yes, someone chimed in about their power costs for a moment but I remained on topic for the most part in my responses when I could to try to encourage others to stay on topic.

There is no harm in me telling others, when they purchase an S5, to come to CKPool either.

Chill
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1001
November 14, 2014, 03:34:41 AM
#76
this is antminer S5 thread which turned into a KW/H price thread, wtf Huh
go with this somewhere else !
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
November 14, 2014, 02:17:43 AM
#75
Quote
 Approximately .098 annually per kWH.

I'm stuck at the variable 0.0121

...
...
...

AND EVERYTHING IN MY APARTMENT RUNS ON ELECTRICITY



When I say my approximate annual power rate is .098 cents per kWH, it is an average because of the different costs for the time of year, taxes and fees.  I posted my power costs in the State of Alabama in a previous post in this forum.

We would do well if the S5 has a lower watts per Gh/s rating than the S4.  It could be even better if it actually is liquid cooled to reduce heat which would also reduce electricity costs during the hotter months.  I just hope the price is not outrageous to make the ROI outrageous!
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1318
Technical Analyst/Trader
November 14, 2014, 02:12:36 AM
#74
I'm currently at approximately 6000 watts or 6 kW per hour with my rigs, exhaust fan, etc.  6 kW x .098 = .588 cents per hour.  Multiply that x 24 hours = $14.11 per day.  Multiply that x 30 days = $423.36.  Approximately 1 BTC

2.34476816 BTC in the last 7 days at CKPool if I had been there the last 7 days.  However, I have only been there the last 2 blocks that were found.

I made approximately 3.1 BTC at Eligius and Slush in the past 30 days before switching over to CKPool.

I hope the S5 is even more power efficient than the S4 per Gh/s.  If so, it definitely means more profits.  I know I will opt for the S5 if this is the case.  This depends on the costs of the unit of course.
member
Activity: 78
Merit: 10
November 14, 2014, 02:04:06 AM
#73
Quote
 Approximately .098 annually per kWH.

I'm stuck at the variable 0.0121

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AND EVERYTHING IN MY APARTMENT RUNS ON ELECTRICITY

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