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legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
December 22, 2014, 04:27:10 PM
Let's see if the price of S3 and S4 come down after the S5 is released

Probably not... the S5 is twice the price, and a marginal power efficiency and speed improvement over the S3. It's essentially two S3s in one body, without the water cooling of the C1, plus a marginal improvement in performance.

And really they just gave people a reason not to buy the C1. They just made their own product obsolete.

The C1 was probably way to much for most people.  I have zero interest in taking care of liquid cooling.  I am considering the S5.

you probably want to shop around before you commit to that S5... we are moving into a dense time in mining and any rig bought now needs to be super-clockable up and down to stay profitable.

I am only running 1THash/sec.  I only mine as a hobby.  I have 1 S1 and 2 S3's mining away Smiley.  My S1 is for an Altcoin I love and my S3's are for bitcoin.  I like having my "vote" on the network.  I am tempted to get an S5 then I could shutdown the S1 and use one S3 on BTC and the other on the Altcoin I like.  Not sure though, I would like to keep my power draw under 1KW.  Although I suppose 1.3 Kw is pretty darn close but still.  I guess I could just run the S5 and 1 S3 and keep the other one as backup.

Although on the same page the heat the S1 gives off is amazing in these cold months lol, mind you slippers and sweaters are a solid and cheap counter to cold lmao.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
December 22, 2014, 04:17:09 PM
Let's see if the price of S3 and S4 come down after the S5 is released

Probably not... the S5 is twice the price, and a marginal power efficiency and speed improvement over the S3. It's essentially two S3s in one body, without the water cooling of the C1, plus a marginal improvement in performance.

And really they just gave people a reason not to buy the C1. They just made their own product obsolete.

The C1 was probably way to much for most people.  I have zero interest in taking care of liquid cooling.  I am considering the S5.

you probably want to shop around before you commit to that S5... we are moving into a dense time in mining and any rig bought now needs to be super-clockable up and down to stay profitable.
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
December 22, 2014, 04:12:26 PM
Let's see if the price of S3 and S4 come down after the S5 is released

Probably not... the S5 is twice the price, and a marginal power efficiency and speed improvement over the S3. It's essentially two S3s in one body, without the water cooling of the C1, plus a marginal improvement in performance.

And really they just gave people a reason not to buy the C1. They just made their own product obsolete.

The C1 was probably way to much for most people.  I have zero interest in taking care of liquid cooling.  I am considering the S5.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
Bored with you morons.
December 22, 2014, 03:15:56 PM
Let's see if the price of S3 and S4 come down after the S5 is released

Probably not... the S5 is twice the price, and a marginal power efficiency and speed improvement over the S3. It's essentially two S3s in one body, without the water cooling of the C1, plus a marginal improvement in performance.

And really they just gave people a reason not to buy the C1. They just made their own product obsolete.
sr. member
Activity: 381
Merit: 251
December 22, 2014, 01:36:37 PM
Let's see if the price of S3 and S4 come down after the S5 is released
legendary
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1000
December 22, 2014, 01:14:14 PM
Seems like it has now just come down to which company you like, a good thing?

Competition keeps Spoodlies and Bitmain always trying to out do each other!!
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
December 22, 2014, 01:05:43 PM

Wow that's quite impressive specs in that form factor!  Bitmain has come along way in 1 year.  This same this year, they had the Antminer S1 at 180 GH/s on regular clock.

Now if they sell at the right price, they have a best seller once again.

$450 USD

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201412220650169743S9QlmHx069D


plus shipping and maybe 2 as a minimum.  so 450 + 450 + 100 = 1k for 2?

right now that would be a tiny bit better then an sp20.
  If I have to buy 2  and pay 1000 usd I may wait for batch 2.
I do have a batch 1 s-3  and it did a btc roi and a usd roi and is still mining as I type.  but it likes running at freq 212 and hash 425gh

  I need to know :
A) shipping
 B) min order
C) are they close to spec.

I can get my sp20's under .47watts a gh with 0 worries.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
December 22, 2014, 10:28:20 AM
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1024
December 22, 2014, 09:07:38 AM

Wow that's quite impressive specs in that form factor!  Bitmain has come along way in 1 year.  This same this year, they had the Antminer S1 at 180 GH/s on regular clock.

Now if they sell at the right price, they have a best seller once again.

$450 USD

https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201412220650169743S9QlmHx069D
hero member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 783
better everyday ♥
December 22, 2014, 09:06:13 AM

Wow that's quite impressive specs in that form factor!  Bitmain has come along way in 1 year.  This same this year, they had the Antminer S1 at 180 GH/s on regular clock.

Now if they sell at the right price, they have a best seller once again.
legendary
Activity: 1029
Merit: 1000
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
December 22, 2014, 07:23:25 AM
I think those orders will be shipped after jan. 1, its been taking so looooong  Cry
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
December 21, 2014, 07:23:19 PM
So will we get S5 orders going b4 Xsmas?

My guess is after Christmas.  It is a guess so take it worth a grain of salt.   

right now the SP20 or SP31 are clear winners - Bitmain's prices have been stagnant for over a month while spondoolies has now come down to similar $/GH with about 20-40% better efficiency. The same spondoolies chip will easily keep pace with Bitmain down to 0.35W/GH, perhaps further
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
December 21, 2014, 06:07:54 PM
how about 22dec? Grin
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
December 21, 2014, 05:50:33 PM
So will we get S5 orders going b4 Xsmas?

My guess is after Christmas.  It is a guess so take it worth a grain of salt.   

They could do it monday/tuesday, but I don't see them doing it on Christmas Eve or Christmas.  But it would be a nice little gift if I am wrong.
sr. member
Activity: 381
Merit: 251
December 21, 2014, 01:56:04 PM
So will we get S5 orders going b4 Xsmas?
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
December 21, 2014, 10:23:11 AM
Did anybody notice the BM1384 spec sheet. Still 28nm but reporting lower power consumption. I assume this is the ship chip for the S5? Or did I miss something?
https://www.bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.0.pdf

very interesting Smiley Looks like its a redesigned 28nm as I expected was likely. Probably a larger number of lower-frequency cores per chip.

S5 should be advertised as 1TH/380W or so, and an S6 could probably achieve 4TH/1.2kW
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
December 21, 2014, 02:37:36 AM
maybe they adopted the tick-tock strategy of intel
full member
Activity: 175
Merit: 100
December 20, 2014, 05:06:18 PM
Did anybody notice the BM1384 spec sheet. Still 28nm but reporting lower power consumption. I assume this is the ship chip for the S5? Or did I miss something?
https://www.bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.0.pdf
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
December 19, 2014, 11:49:15 AM
you sell your hash power! for at least double the bitcoin!
few days back it was 10 times!

I understand.

I've thought about it.  I've looked into prices different miners are charging and such.  I personally would not pay to rent others rigs and anyone else who does needs to shop around because maybe 1% to 2% of them actually get you back what you rented them for unless you had them pointed at a pool that got extremely lucky!
That's precisely why people rent: they figure to get lucky and make more back than they paid for the rental.  Paycoin has blown up and radically inflated the prices of rentals.  Unfortunately, it's only going to last another 24 hours or so.  Then the prices will fall back down to more realistic levels.

not necessarily. there are quite a lot of big rig owners which have managed to understand how low prices don't always get the sale.
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