Devin Haney vs Ryan Garcia on April 20 - page 22.

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 23, 2024, 05:42:43 AM

^^ If I'm not mistaken, Haney could have the advantage if the fight is going to be in Vegas. But regardless though, it could have been the capacity of the venue that why they move it to New York. And I think their fans are going to travel as Garcia's fanbase is LA. Seen some footage of Ryan Garcia in Twitter, fast hands, but it's just a matter on whether he can executed it against the defense of Haney. And at 140 lbs, both could be in the best shape of their lives as they will be no problems with weight management specially with Ryan as he had problems with 135 lbs when he fought Tank Davis. But against Duarte, we can see that his body is build like a natural jr. welterweight.

Both are from LA but Haney is residing in Vegas so maybe it is an advantage for him if the fight is held there. But I think Ryan is banking on Vegas for the expensive ticket sales. The venue will be smaller in Vegas but it is expected to be more expensive which is why it can generate more money than the other venues.

It's not that hard to look good in training. Even none pros can be good in videos too. Ryan did not looked fast in his last fight at 140. But we'll see if there are improvements. What is clear though is Haney looks good, not in training but in his last fight against an experienced 2 time champion.

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They had a second face-off yesterday in New York and as expected Ryan is very aggressive, Haney is just cool, he knows he's the favorite he knows Ryan has a lot of envy in what he has achieved, Ryan on this face-off tries to involve the elder Haney but it seems this time the father and son tandem is just cool.

In this video, Bernard Hopkins, one of Ryan's promoters is giving the elder Haney a shard look while the two are having their thrash talk, Ryan is full of anger I have never seen him this angry, he was not like this on Gervonta, it's good that he did not push Devin Haney, there's a lot to watch out for in this fight, a lot of dramas and a lot thrash talking.

https://www.facebook.com/mmafighting/videos/1131595887996176

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 29, 2024, 05:11:44 AM

Ryan has a history of mental breakdown before and that's why he quit for a while before making a comeback and taking a new trainer in Goosen. However, when he lost to Tank Davis, the switches again, this time he is under the tutelage of Derrick James who trains Errol Spence and a bunch of others.

Haney could use Ryan's weakness to his advantage. I hope he'll do some trash-talking too so Ryan will be distracted going into the fight. Well, as for technique and skills, the edge all points to Haney, so there's no reason here to take a higher risk by betting on Ryan when we know he will not win. The choices here would only go down as to whether Ryan will be knocked out or will lose in 12 rounds. I think the last option is more likely to be the scenario.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 28, 2024, 06:46:18 PM

I don’t know anything about Devin Haney, but Ryan Garcia seems more and more cringe in every clip I see of him. I think for that reason I’m probably going to go with Haney to win this fight. I think the Tank fight broke Ryan Garcia mentally. I wouldn’t put money behind him vs anyone until he gets another win under his belt.

It's just typical for Ryan Garcia to act this way, he has tweet about his wife fighting as well, and he says that they should pay here a minimum $500,000 LOL. Yes, Haney is the huge favorite here so it make sense for smart bettors to go for him. ML is not that attracted though, but there are a lot options that can give us a good return if we go on Haney here.

Ryan has a history of mental breakdown before and that's why he quit for a while before making a comeback and taking a new trainer in Goosen. However, when he lost to Tank Davis, the switches again, this time he is under the tutelage of Derrick James who trains Errol Spence and a bunch of others.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 28, 2024, 06:46:18 PM

I don’t know anything about Devin Haney, but Ryan Garcia seems more and more cringe in every clip I see of him. I think for that reason I’m probably going to go with Haney to win this fight. I think the Tank fight broke Ryan Garcia mentally. I wouldn’t put money behind him vs anyone until he gets another win under his belt.

There were even post yesterday that Ryan is somewhat smoking or high, and so that's another cringe moment for you. And Devin Haney says that he won't show up to the press kick off presser because Ryan is just wasting his time. But the did show up and we have a entertaining press conference when Ryan goes up with 3 girls, even Oscar was laughing and when it's time for his mouth to open, he says that he is serious and talks about God, Lol, talking about being high. He is a huge underdog here, if he loses this one, he will be 0-2 amongst his contemporaries, and I don't know if he can get a belt at this weight class. Maybe not against Haney or Teo Lopez, perhaps Rolly he has a chance or even against a tough Subriel Matias.

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I don’t know anything about Devin Haney, but Ryan Garcia seems more and more cringe in every clip I see of him. I think for that reason I’m probably going to go with Haney to win this fight. I think the Tank fight broke Ryan Garcia mentally. I wouldn’t put money behind him vs anyone until he gets another win under his belt.

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How time flies, we are now in the Kick-off conference, so much for Las Vegas venue, it's going to happen in NYC and Ryan has no problem with it.

So it's really on, we might here more trash talking, as Oscar said, "still" or a "new" champion in April 20th. Just a question on who wanted it more.

Haney said that this is personal now, specially if it involves religion. And then Bill Haney involves Floyd, as he claim that he Floyd shows the sparring session with Devin Haney and then they suspect that him and Floyd are giving him tips on how to beat Devin.

And as expected, Bill Haney and Ryan's dad, Henry Garcia is also doing the promotion. Grin

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Quote from: btc_angela on February 24, 2024, 01:49:26 AM

If this is a done deal, meaning Ryan Garcia had sign the contract, then he can't just simply back out from the plans of his promoter and Haney's camp. That will be unprofessional for him. I'm just thinking that maybe he can squeeze more money if the fight is going to happen in Las Vegas.

If Ryan had signed the contract and back down, he might face some penalties for the damages done of him backing out. I don't think Ryan would like to pay some penalties when he himself is looking for money after he lost his fortune on gambling (as the earlier reply stated).

Quote from: crwth on February 24, 2024, 01:54:59 AM

I know that both Haney and Garcia are somewhat similar in height, but this is going to be a great fight for the WBC super lightweight title. Haney might have an advantage with the number of matches but the percentage of knockouts by Garcia is a lot more, IMO it can be with Garcia's advantage. We will never know until it happens.

Haney has the advantage, IMO, just look at their body mass after the rehydration, I do not think that the opponent KO ratio is definitive for the fight against Haney, Haney is a tough one to crack especially his defence and counterpunches. If I am not mistaken, Ryan has this tendency to become reckless when pursuing a KO, and that might be the biggest disadvantage of Ryan Garcia in this fight.

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Quote from: btc_angela on February 28, 2024, 04:01:07 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on February 27, 2024, 03:51:35 PM

I saw an interview with Ryan Garcia today where he was saying he wants to fight Suga Sean O'Malley. He claims he'd easily knock him out in boxing (maybe true) and wants to challenge himself by fighting Suga Sean in MMA. I think this must just be some sort of a PR move to try and build up some hype around his next fight or something. I don't think there's a chance in hell that Ryan Garcia could knock out Suga Sean in the octagon, but I'd sure like to see him try. This is the sort of crossover fight the sports need.

I think if I'm not mistaken, O'Malley was the first one to call up Ryan or something to the effect that he can defeat a pro boxer. O'Malley is going on the route of Connor, running his mouth and trying to be the next face of MMA.

And with that, Ryan will not shy on that kind of trash talking in the media, he has been dub as a social media King Ry. But in any case, he has a difficult fight ahead of him in Haney. He needs to focus on this fight if he wanted to have his name in the discussions to be one of the great not just known to be in a social media boxer.

nothing yet is agreed for both to fight. if Dana permits, i guess it's cool to see another cross-fight like this. Dana already wasted his chance with Francis Ngannou, hope he will not miss it this time.

Ryan i think will have a higher rate of knocking out Suga than Haney. Omalley afaik likes to engage which is what Ryan likes doing in the middle. he will be unlucky once again if Sean gets him first just like Tank did. Ryan still has a fast hand and all it takes is just one hit to Suga.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 27, 2024, 03:51:35 PM

I saw an interview with Ryan Garcia today where he was saying he wants to fight Suga Sean O'Malley. He claims he'd easily knock him out in boxing (maybe true) and wants to challenge himself by fighting Suga Sean in MMA. I think this must just be some sort of a PR move to try and build up some hype around his next fight or something. I don't think there's a chance in hell that Ryan Garcia could knock out Suga Sean in the octagon, but I'd sure like to see him try. This is the sort of crossover fight the sports need.

I think if I'm not mistaken, O'Malley was the first one to call up Ryan or something to the effect that he can defeat a pro boxer. O'Malley is going on the route of Connor, running his mouth and trying to be the next face of MMA.

And with that, Ryan will not shy on that kind of trash talking in the media, he has been dub as a social media King Ry. But in any case, he has a difficult fight ahead of him in Haney. He needs to focus on this fight if he wanted to have his name in the discussions to be one of the great not just known to be in a social media boxer.

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I saw an interview with Ryan Garcia today where he was saying he wants to fight Suga Sean O'Malley. He claims he'd easily knock him out in boxing (maybe true) and wants to challenge himself by fighting Suga Sean in MMA. I think this must just be some sort of a PR move to try and build up some hype around his next fight or something. I don't think there's a chance in hell that Ryan Garcia could knock out Suga Sean in the octagon, but I'd sure like to see him try. This is the sort of crossover fight the sports need.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 24, 2024, 12:55:08 AM

https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1761166060751929635

And with this, he is going to be troll by the fans of Haney as if he is like doesn't want to fight or afraid of facing Haney now. And I'm not sure why Ryan Garcia is talking about business when his job is to fight and bet the opponent in front of him. Let his promoter do their job, he says he wanted to fight the best Oscar gave him that opportunity for now and for sure there is big money in the table for him. So that is good enough for him and he should stop and just train very hard here because he is in for a tough night against Haney here. No need for Ryan to worry the venue, he will have his guaranteed purse for sure when he sign the contract to fight Haney.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 09, 2024, 08:28:58 PM

Hi there OP, there is already a thread for this one created ahead of this so i think it's better to close this one and discuss matters pertaining to this fight in a single thread.

Thanks.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63638382

This topic has already been closed.

I know that both Haney and Garcia are somewhat similar in height, but this is going to be a great fight for the WBC super lightweight title. Haney might have an advantage with the number of matches but the percentage of knockouts by Garcia is a lot more, IMO it can be with Garcia's advantage. We will never know until it happens.

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If this is a done deal, meaning Ryan Garcia had sign the contract, then he can't just simply back out from the plans of his promoter and Haney's camp. That will be unprofessional for him. I'm just thinking that maybe he can squeeze more money if the fight is going to happen in Las Vegas.

But regardless of where the fight is going to happen, if he thinks he is a cash cow as proved by his fight against Tank Davis, then definitely he can do it against a dance partner like Haney. I think Devin can also bring his fans in the Barclays center and pay that live tickets.

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Interesting development,

https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1761166060751929635

Ryan says that his fight should be in Vegas and obviously he is against the fight going into Barclays center. Hmm, I smell something here, does it mean that he is going to pull from the fight because the venue doesn't suit him the best?

But I do agree though, there is no tax in Vegas as far as I know and it's all about the gambling and the money that it can generate because of this said fight.

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Quote from: Kemarit on February 22, 2024, 04:58:30 PM

And we have a venue, I also thought that this will be in Las Vegas, but it's not, the fight is going to take place in Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.

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However, on Wednesday night, Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy promotions - who represent Garcia and so are staging the fight - announced that the Haney clash will instead take place in New York.

The 19,000 capacity Barclays Center, home to the Brooklyn Nets, will host the event.

https://talksport.com/sport/1760503/surprise-venue-devin-haney-ryan-garcia-gervonta-davis-deleted/

Still a good venue and the sitting capacity is big and I wouldn't be surprised if this fight is sold out already and then the PPV numbers as well. Are we going to see a million PPV buys here? or least get close to the Tank Davis vs Ryan Garcia with 1.1-1.2 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, the biggest fight last year, even bigger than Canelo fight or Crawford vs Spence.

Las Vegas though should be the home town of Ryan, he has been trainer or have been seen with Floyd. And we all know that Floyd resides in Vegas and so I think it will be beneficial for his fans from LA as it is very near proximity and they can just drove off to Vegas and see Ryan fight.

And speaking of Barclays center, it was the venue where Tank Davis fought Rolly Romero and they did this numbers.

https://twitter.com/NukeUndisputed/status/1760479596661625295

I think they can easily surpassed this numbers, that time Rolly is still relatively unknown and not a champion and yet it was a block buster fight. So what's more of Ryan with his huge following and Haney's belt on the line.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 14, 2024, 05:26:39 PM

Ryan hasn’t been the same since his loss to Tank. He’s beefing with YouTubers, flirting with podcast hosts, trying to collect money for his Dad, and is reportedly nearly broke after becoming addicted to gambling and losing all his money. At the rate he’s spiraling downward, he may be destined to be a statistic. Just a few months ago he was one of the biggest rising stars in boxing…

What an unfortunate turn of events for Ryan's career. It was indeed a devastating loss he got against Davis. The problem was, he was not really a true champion, thus fighting against an elite fighter does exposed him in a very bad way.
If all these rumors we've heard about him were true, he'd definitely going to fall and a loss to Haney might be the start of the end of his career.

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^^ If I'm not mistaken, Haney could have the advantage if the fight is going to be in Vegas. But regardless though, it could have been the capacity of the venue that why they move it to New York. And I think their fans are going to travel as Garcia's fanbase is LA. Seen some footage of Ryan Garcia in Twitter, fast hands, but it's just a matter on whether he can executed it against the defense of Haney. And at 140 lbs, both could be in the best shape of their lives as they will be no problems with weight management specially with Ryan as he had problems with 135 lbs when he fought Tank Davis. But against Duarte, we can see that his body is build like a natural jr. welterweight.

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And we have a venue, I also thought that this will be in Las Vegas, but it's not, the fight is going to take place in Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.

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However, on Wednesday night, Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy promotions - who represent Garcia and so are staging the fight - announced that the Haney clash will instead take place in New York.

The 19,000 capacity Barclays Center, home to the Brooklyn Nets, will host the event.

https://talksport.com/sport/1760503/surprise-venue-devin-haney-ryan-garcia-gervonta-davis-deleted/

Still a good venue and the sitting capacity is big and I wouldn't be surprised if this fight is sold out already and then the PPV numbers as well. Are we going to see a million PPV buys here? or least get close to the Tank Davis vs Ryan Garcia with 1.1-1.2 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, the biggest fight last year, even bigger than Canelo fight or Crawford vs Spence.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 20, 2024, 09:47:47 AM

Well, we will see if Ryan could give him some competitive fight. This fight based on the experts is just one-sided, and despite the popularity of Ryan Garcia, he was given +370 to win. That's a huge insult to his capabilities. However, as you said, for Ryan Garcia's supporters, they'll take it as an opportunity.

If you're a fan of Ryan Garcia it is an insult, but if you're a bettor that's a fact, backed by stats, analysis, and past performance of both fighters, no doubt Ryan is a good boxer but on what level? In boxing, there's a level to this and it was proven in his fight against Gervonta that you don't give a fighter an A level who is making his first legit championship fight against a fighter who has over 10 championship fights, the discrepancies is pretty obvious.

In this match, Haney is the A-level here, in boxing or any contact sports there is a saying " To be a man you gonna beat the man" Haney did it twice against Kambosos where he wrestled the crown, and Lomachencko who is considered to be one of the pounds for pound great so Haney is considered the top favorite here.

For Ryan to claim that he is King Rye like what fans like to call him, he needs to convincingly beat Haney, which I doubt he can because his offense is pretty obvious, he sets up the jab so he can deliver the right hook, something that Haney can easily read.

And another thing, Garcia has never fought a fighter who can shift from a normal stance to an unorthodox one effectively, Haney may not be a knockout artist but he is one boxer who can make a good boxer like Ryan an ordinary boxer.

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