Topic: Devin Haney vs Ryan Garcia on April 20 - page 23. (Read 2849 times)

this is where more people will lose when they are just looking forward to how much they will win betting for the underdog. yes they will make money if ryan wins but thats a big IF. we know ryan has the knockout punch but because he is fighting haney who will prefer to engage from a distance, ryan will just be chasing haney the whole time.

haney has had this habit since he became a champ. he wouldn't want someone like ryan will get the belt. with this kind of strategy, haney defeated loma and kamboso twice. and ryan not hitting haney will just frustrate him which he'd be careless along teh way.

Haney is the huge favorite, we can't argue to that as the betting odds will prove it.


Well, we will see if Ryan could give him some competitive fight. This fight based on the experts is just one-sided, and despite the popularity of Ryan Garcia, he was given +370 to win. That's a huge insult to his capabilities. However, as you said, for Ryan Garcia's supporters, they'll take it as an opportunity.

It's obvious, Haney is by far a huge favorite in this fight, so smart money will be on this side. But for those Ryan Garcia fans, they will definitely support him


I think Devin Haney is no feather fisted in this weight class, perhaps in the 135 lbs because he had to squeeze his frame at that weight. But here at 140 lbs, and against Prograis in which he knock him down, I think Haney could have somewhat had more power as compare of him competing at lower classes before. Maybe even his chin has improved a lot as well because of the added weight.

A large portion of the fans will support Ryan Garcia because he delivers knockouts and is fun to watch. But the gamblers will wager money for the more outstanding boxer and it is Devin Haney the champion.

As I see it, the two boxers enjoy a benefit. Garcia has power in his hands and Devin is intelligent. This is a great match and this is game seven for them after having three triumphs over one another after battling six times when they were amateurs.

Up until this point, the gambling odds are not close but is juicy for the wagering fans of Ryan Garcia.

Haney is a power puncher but not so aggressive, so he might not use it a lot of time as he is the one who is challenging the champion. And we know how good Haney in the ring, the only way for Garcia to beat him so he'll not lose in the scoring is to hurt him and eventually KO him, which no one has even done it yet.

That must be a great decision since he won his last fight, although it wasn't that impressive, he needs to improve, train harder since he's up against one of the best fighters in the world, the best in his division now. Garcia for KO, I think I'm gonna risk on that.

This must have a great  offer as both sides come to agree while people are looking for their different opponent so lets see what is the response of the fans and what is the response of the gamblers.
But in this one I am for Haney no matter how advantageous Garcia here.

King Ry was using the philly shell tactic because we can be quite certain that he wanted to avoid the Tank Davis Tyson power punch to his jaw hehehe. He might need to use this tactic against Devin Haney, I reckon. According to someone he has fists of pillows. This is very funny.

Also, King Ry changed his trainer. We might witness a new style and use different tactics in the ring. I also wish this fight will be 12 rounds of action and end with a split decision.

This fight is not for undisputed though, it will be just for Haney's WBC belt that he got from defeating Prograis recently. And I don't think that even if James as a trainer losses this one for Ryan, he will not get any clients. There are a lot of boxers that need good trainer and I think Derrick James can still get some new boxers under his wing in the aftermath of this fight.

But I do agree that he will really need to put everything for Ryan Garcia here. It's no easy task to beat Haney and we have seen flaws in Ryan that James try to improved in his last fight, but still a lot of work needs to be done for Ryan and I think those subtle changes might be seen in this big fight.

They are both desperate to win this match, and it's not going to be an easy task, they are fighting an undisputed champion who has vast experience and has beaten great champions, Derrick must bring out the best in Ryan Garcia, his career as a trainer depends so much on this fight, the fight is still two months to go but right now there's a lot of controversial like the face-off incident was staged, which I doubt because they don't have to do this as the fight will still sell with thrash talk or no thrash talk.

Ryan is a stringer fighter IMO. He also has a fast hand, I think we can't rule out him winning this fight if Haney fights him head-to-head. But this isn't the way Haney fights so he is going around Garcia to get a better advantage.

Before the announcement of their fight, Ryan had been going to different interviews on many podcasts, though he wasn't promoting anything it was kind of very timely that he was doing it. And then a day or two the fight was announced. And then the next day, the two made a real drama to promote the fight. Seemed organized.

Every Fighter has a weakness but they can overcome that weakness if they will counter it. They must not think that they have a weakness then for sure inside the ring they can make a good fight.  Although Garcia is the underdog here then one thing for sure he will do his very best to protect himself in order to prevent such easy loss. Maybe he can't win but if he try his best and make a good strategy then there's a chance . Divenhaney  is a strong boxer we know that and he has the advantages in this fight so this must be a plus points for him.

I don't think it's hard to predict, Ryan Garcia is a clear underdog here, Garcia may be good but he has weaknesses, whereas Haney almost perfected his craft, there is a saying that you cannot beat what you can't hit, Haney is one of the boxers that is so hard to hit he had proven it on his matches against Kambosos and Prograis, these two fighters are strong puncher but their punches cannot even land on Haney's cheek.
I see the same scenario against Garcia, Ryan should come out with a better strategy to beat Haney, but Haney is so good at shifting his strategy that this will make big problems for Garcia.

This bout is hard to predict because both boxers still lots of rooms for improvement and probably they have prepared and train for good combinations to surprise their opponent. If Garcia shows more power in this fight with his lethal punch combined with amazing speed, Haney will have hard time to defend against it and it may lead to his defeat unless he has also prepared some unusual technique to surprise Garcia in the later rounds.

Both of them are very young, so that negates everything. But I do agree, it's the defense that will help Haney, but I don't think that he has the best Philly defense. Floyd's one of the best and his uncle to carry that one and I don't see anyone emulating it.


And probably that's why they say that Haney is pillow fisted when he was at 135 lbs because he is tall and skinny and have long reach. But moving up and adding 5 pounds makes a lot of difference specially if they can rehydrate and fill his body at fight night.

If Oscar is trying to satisfy Ryan it means protecting him against a boring but very technical fighter. This is complete suicide IMO. If Ryan wants a big-money fight it means bringing the easiest champion of the division, Rolly Romero. But it won't be easy since PBC is not giving Romero for free against a rival promotion. Hopefully, no one is quitting on the said date. But as I said, it won't be surprising if this fight gets canceled.

I really think Oscar was left without a choice on Canelo. I believe Oscar worked 100% for Canelo. The issue was DAZN demanding big names for Canelo and rejecting Oscar and Canelo's list of opponents. In the end, DAZN gave up on Canelo's stand. It did not want Canelo to leave the network so they signed another deal but this time without Oscar's promotion involved. And then Matchroom as DAZN's main partner became Canelo's promoter. So it's like Eddie Hearn stealing Canelo out of GBP.


We'll see. My mind is still questioning why Ryan is fighting Haney. I think it will be more embarrassing if Haney knocks out Ryan. Haney is not heavy-handed which means he needs to land hundreds of punches to put down Ryan. Ryan's face could be blooded and disfigured just like Kambosos or Teofimo's face because Kambosos' punch is not heavy enough to score a KO or TKO.

If we haven't notice on Ryan Garcia's last fight, he was also using the shoulder roll or philly shell (mayweather style). Although Haney had probably mastered it, but seeing Ryan Garcia using the same strategy might help him improve his defense. Well, we will see if it will work against Haney though, although Ryan might be quick ( I agree) but I believe he is flat footed so that strategy might be fully working against Haney.



And Haney probably had the edge with his built as he looks strong with full of muscles wrap around his body.

Will see this one for sure and for sure this will be the toughest fight of King Ry.

Ryan Garcia is also young and quick. What Devin Haney will be using is the philly shell, very much similar to the boxing style of Floyd Mayweather, however, a type of the philly shell that is not very good like Floyd hehehe.

In any case, it appears that Devin Haney is not small for the super lightweight division. I thought King Ry would be taller than him and also with the longer reach. They almost have the same height and Haney has 1 inches longer in reach.

I don't see this fight ending in KO in favor of Haney. The champion understands that Garcia has a high KO rate, that means his strategy will be the same, he will be using his quickness to score and will look Garcia like an amateur.  If that would be the scenario of the fight, then Garcia's training is not effective, it's a big gamble for him and his trainer, but if he could have a competitive fight even if he losses, I think people would still be interested in watching him since he is the underdog of this fight, and of course, his trainer will keep the job.

Ryan Garcia officially started training for his match with Devin Haney.

https://twitter.com/gizmo_277/status/1758290550510506122

Derrick James will have his full attention on Garcia after his former boxers Errol Spence, Jermell Charlo and Anthony Joshua left. This match with Haney is difficult for the two of them. James has to demonstrate that he is an extraordinary mentor. Assuming Garcia loses to Devin Haney by knockout or unanimous decision, I suspect there will be not any more boxers and champions that need the mentorship of James. Garcia is in the same place as James, assuming that Haney wins in a spectacular manner, the fans will never again show interest in his next battles.

It might take a hit on his box office draw, but what we appreciate of Ryan is that he keeps on pushing himself to fight the best. Yes, I don't think that Haney will have that kind of clauses here, and if there were, we will soon fight out and if might affect fans and says that they try to used Tanks tactic against Ryan and weight drain him, it will not look good for Haney.

Obviously, if there is controversy, like it's too close call then we will love to see another fight. And just to let everyone know, Ryan is one of the 4 kings that has two fights with the rest of them. All other guys haven't meant yet, so Ryan is the only one who has the balls to face two, Tank Davis and Devin Haney.