This is a complete joke.
Pay out the sig campaign.
Roll back mateo's (manl's) bets.
Pay back of the people you scammed on a PROVABLY RIGGED ALGO.
Close your site and return to the Ukraine.
Anyone who deposits 1 satoshi in DiceShitco.in should expect never to see that satoshi again.
Topic: DiceBitco.in - New Thread to Discuss - page 13. (Read 20702 times)
Lucky i didnt invest in this site was planning too
you could verify the sites legit fair ... its crucial that now dice sites remain fair and honest after what has happened to DB
Marco can you check this site out opinions ? shibaroll.com its doge dice ....
What exactly do you want me to do? Are you just advertising them here?
whoah, I was just about to consider this dice site to play on, but its rigged? 
Not anymore, apparently. It was skipping winning bets for many players when the problem was discovered and everyone withdrew their coins. You can play at your own risk.
whoah, I was just about to consider this dice site to play on, but its rigged?
Marco can you check this site out opinions ? shibaroll.com its doge dice ....
Regarding the probability of mateo raping the bankroll I fear that it may not be "so" low.
The website was using half-kelly and standing to this link http://thehackensack.blogspot.fi/2009/11/half-kelly-bet.html the probability of losing, at some point, a percentage of the bankroll follows a quadratic function. In practice my initial invested amount was 0.11335743 and after all the mess I lost 0.09500235, so 83% of my investment. The probability of this to happen was roughly about 17%^2=2.9%, an acceptable number. (Anyway, it would be great to have a usable model for making these kind of computations, instead of pointing the thumb.)
Regarding the "whale", we can argue that the probability of finding a gambler risking 1 BTC per play is NOT low and also the "timing" argument can hold in reverse: since the bankroll was rapidly diminishing a gambler could have felt compelled to play before seeing it disappear.
The website was using half-kelly and standing to this link http://thehackensack.blogspot.fi/2009/11/half-kelly-bet.html the probability of losing, at some point, a percentage of the bankroll follows a quadratic function. In practice my initial invested amount was 0.11335743 and after all the mess I lost 0.09500235, so 83% of my investment. The probability of this to happen was roughly about 17%^2=2.9%, an acceptable number. (Anyway, it would be great to have a usable model for making these kind of computations, instead of pointing the thumb.)
Regarding the "whale", we can argue that the probability of finding a gambler risking 1 BTC per play is NOT low and also the "timing" argument can hold in reverse: since the bankroll was rapidly diminishing a gambler could have felt compelled to play before seeing it disappear.
I'm not sure, but I think the escrow providers (for this dice sig campaign) should discuss between them (they are only two), and if they both agree, to just send all or most of the coins to all who kept the sigs up to this point divided proportionally.
I agree to this view: send coins now and return unused coins to dicebitcoin. If dicebitcoin want to continue their signature campaign they can make a new thread and have people join.
DB said that Dooglus and Bitcoininformation can keep anything that's left.
As I mentioned many times before, I 100% agree that campaign should be cancelled. If DB left for good and if 10BTC turns out to be not enough - things are going to be messed up at the end of the month.
The funds should be divided proportionally to the rank (disregarding the post count), otherwise all of those who were away etc will feel cheated (by those who already hit the max count).
We could make a voting, but the escrowers will make a decision anyways
No one can claim they felt cheated if it ends earlier than planned, since it is based on post count not a flat rate (so people dont make 50 posts on the last day of the month).
If you were away for the first 10 days, then it is not the campaign's problem that you couldn't make posts.
However the 50 post minimum should be disregarded.
I'm not sure, but I think the escrow providers (for this dice sig campaign) should discuss between them (they are only two), and if they both agree, to just send all or most of the coins to all who kept the sigs up to this point divided proportionally.
I agree to this view: send coins now and return unused coins to dicebitcoin. If dicebitcoin want to continue their signature campaign they can make a new thread and have people join.
DB said that Dooglus and Bitcoininformation can keep anything that's left.
As I mentioned many times before, I 100% agree that campaign should be cancelled. If DB left for good and if 10BTC turns out to be not enough - things are going to be messed up at the end of the month.
The funds should be divided proportionally to the rank (disregarding the post count), otherwise all of those who were away etc will feel cheated (by those who already hit the max count).
We could make a voting, but the escrowers will make a decision anyways
I'm not sure, but I think the escrow providers (for this dice sig campaign) should discuss between them (they are only two), and if they both agree, to just send all or most of the coins to all who kept the sigs up to this point divided proportionally.
I agree to this view: send coins now and return unused coins to dicebitcoin. If dicebitcoin want to continue their signature campaign they can make a new thread and have people join.
interesting you guys still think you deserve money for advertising a site that went on to steal from customers...
give whats left to charity imo
give what's left to those investors who were cheated out of their money...give whats left to charity imo
I'm owed 0.3 BTC on this scam-website... The owner doesn't want to refund me because "i had the chance to divest". Even though the cheater had the server seed. It was unfair gambling, hurting the investors.
Ok, I'm offline for a few days, invest a bitcoin, and ... now it's all gone? That really sucks. I've always wanted to put up my own dice site, or somehow automate my old lotto game (to determine winner, but prize would be sent manually from cold wallet.) But I'm not a dev, and the second best option was to invest.
I'm not sure, but I think the escrow providers (for this dice sig campaign) should discuss between them (they are only two), and if they both agree, to just send all or most of the coins to all who kept the sigs up to this point divided proportionally.
As much as I'd like to personally get back my 1.14 invested BTC (and to think I sent it in a few days ago.)
Oh well... I'm not online much, and I haven't posted in any other thread yet; so hold off the neg reps.
(doog, I sent you an email, or do you prefer PMs here?)
I'm not sure, but I think the escrow providers (for this dice sig campaign) should discuss between them (they are only two), and if they both agree, to just send all or most of the coins to all who kept the sigs up to this point divided proportionally.
As much as I'd like to personally get back my 1.14 invested BTC (and to think I sent it in a few days ago.)
Oh well... I'm not online much, and I haven't posted in any other thread yet; so hold off the neg reps.
(doog, I sent you an email, or do you prefer PMs here?)
Mateo has an almost perfect win streak winning as many as 36 times in a row in 49.5%. His style of betting would benefit their malicious code that skips certain bets.
The nail in the coffin confirming scam for me is the fact they disabled the ability to verify other players bets.
There should of been absolutely no reason for them to remove the ability of verify bets other then a rigged account is about to steal the entire bankroll and they were trying to hide evidence.
The nail in the coffin confirming scam for me is the fact they disabled the ability to verify other players bets.
There should of been absolutely no reason for them to remove the ability of verify bets other then a rigged account is about to steal the entire bankroll and they were trying to hide evidence.
dicebitcoin already did a statement
Thanks for this. I don't see any mention of "If you change or alter the signature in any way, you will not be entitled to payment" in the original contract.
It is well accepted that contracts cannot be altered unilaterally without a suitable clause and consideration. If you would like me to cite case law from a variety of jurisdictions, let me know.
I believe DiceBitco.in's statement is invalid, as it is not part of the original contract.
interesting you guys still think you deserve money for advertising a site that went on to steal from customers...
give whats left to charity imo
give whats left to charity imo
Made more simple:
Trust is about forfeiting attractive gains that you should not rightfully receive.
If an offer involves promoting a scam, then that is something that you should not rightfully perform IMHO.
Can you quote that? I don't see anywhere on the contract where it says it must be unaltered. I only see it prohibiting you from advertising anything else.
Trust is about forfeiting attractive gains that you should not rightfully receive.
If an offer involves promoting a scam, then that is something that you should not rightfully perform IMHO.
^The escrow provider said he needs to keep it unaltered.
Can you quote that? I don't see anywhere on the contract where it says it must be unaltered. I only see it prohibiting you from advertising anything else.
there u go, it was stated by dicebitcoin
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8734611
dicebitcoin already did a statement
I have a list 
Quite a few removed their signature already.
Quite a few removed their signature already.I meant all from the gawminers and cryptcominer. You know they are going to blow up soon; and don't tell me the participants are unaware that they are ponzis.
Regarding the rules, yes, good work. This should hopefully resolve the issue.
So you will add neg rep to all? Better start working on the list then; you will take a few days 
I have a list
Quite a few removed their signature already.FULL MEMBER LIST
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Since you neg repped him, you should also do to the two escrow providers, as they asked to revert back to original sig, and also all the other carriers who are aware.
He can't add anything else in sig as it contravenes rules, but yeah, he can add a message after each post. Will require a bit more work on his part.
He can't add anything else in sig as it contravenes rules, but yeah, he can add a message after each post. Will require a bit more work on his part.
I disagree. I see nothing mentioned in the rules that prohibit you from adding a disclaimer. I'll email bitcoininformation & dooglus and ask them to actually read the rules. Please kindly correct me if you see a rule that prohibits altering the signature non-advertisingly.
^ can you add the message at the end as I suggested? Will require a bit more work but just keep it in clipboard.
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