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Vires in numeris.
September 08, 2014, 12:42:29 PM
#69
Final cold wallet funds ended up in these 2 addresses. Are we expected to believe nobody has withdrawn since then? Not one single satoshi?

https://blockchain.info/address/1N61semERRahc7ivnDT9botTzU8GmZ3bP3
https://blockchain.info/address/132cHaSFGVbakQVsSwzR1Y3QPFXZ1WPyi1

Someone explain why the last of the cold wallet funds reside here and are untouched.

I've not looked at the numbers involved, but is it possible that those addresses belong to a couple of large investors who successfully withdrew their coins?

1N61semERRahc7ivnDT9botTzU8GmZ3bP3 is me. Apparently had to wait until dicebitcoin woke up but no problem withdrawing.
legendary
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September 08, 2014, 12:36:12 PM
#68
Final cold wallet funds ended up in these 2 addresses. Are we expected to believe nobody has withdrawn since then? Not one single satoshi?

https://blockchain.info/address/1N61semERRahc7ivnDT9botTzU8GmZ3bP3
https://blockchain.info/address/132cHaSFGVbakQVsSwzR1Y3QPFXZ1WPyi1

Someone explain why the last of the cold wallet funds reside here and are untouched.

I've not looked at the numbers involved, but is it possible that those addresses belong to a couple of large investors who successfully withdrew their coins?
sr. member
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September 08, 2014, 12:34:15 PM
#67
Here's the reply i got from my support ticket:

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Hi there,

investments are not refundable because they were affected positively by the found "bug".

If you have any other issue please report.

Thank you.

Yep, i lost my 0.3 BTC...
legendary
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September 08, 2014, 12:31:45 PM
#66
last month with 100 ppl and higher rates, we paid ~12 btc in total. now rates are lower and post count less. 10 btc are enough to cover it.

So you plan to keep the campaign running for the whole month, and pay out as usual?

Can you work out how much is due to each participant, and we'll pay them? I never worked out how to tell what is "constructive" on a forum full of trolls anyway.

I guess lots of participants will change their signature before the end of the month and so won't get paid - that will mean the 10 BTC is enough to pay the remaining people.
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September 08, 2014, 12:27:42 PM
#65
Any still nobody can answer my post regarding the "hot wallets"

From my observations, the BTC on DiceShitco.in isn't real BTC. It's just numbers on a screen that can't be withdrawn.

Somebody please prove me wrong. I would be happier about this if I was wrong.
If I had to guess it is the funds they invested in the bankroll that they used to refund user's losses.
legendary
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#Free market
September 08, 2014, 12:27:19 PM
#64
So the unfortunate souls still invested or with balances on the site just get nothing?

I think : yes ...
sr. member
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I lost the liqour money boys...
September 08, 2014, 12:27:00 PM
#63
So the unfortunate souls still invested or with balances on the site just get nothing?
legendary
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September 08, 2014, 12:26:08 PM
#62
Any still nobody can answer my post regarding the "hot wallets"

From my observations, the BTC on DiceShitco.in isn't real BTC. It's just numbers on a screen that can't be withdrawn.

Somebody please prove me wrong. I would be happier about this if I was wrong.

Most likely some if not most of the btc from those hot wallets you pointed out will be used to 'payout' users. (these payouts might just be mixing of the coins to their own addresses.)
sr. member
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I lost the liqour money boys...
September 08, 2014, 12:24:16 PM
#61
Any still nobody can answer my post regarding the "hot wallets"

From my observations, the BTC on DiceShitco.in isn't real BTC. It's just numbers on a screen that can't be withdrawn.

Somebody please prove me wrong. I would be happier about this if I was wrong.
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September 08, 2014, 12:24:09 PM
#60
I think their mistake was to not halt betting when the issue was discovered. This would likely have stopped a panic among plays and investors which lead to the decline of his credibility. If betting was halted then they could have looked at the code very closely to make sure there are not any other outstanding issues that could cause problems.

Their second mistake was to rush to refund people's losses right away. They should have kept track of the losses, investigated thoroughly to make sure the losses were legitimate and if so issue a refund. Handing out these refunds likely scarred investors away which ultimately lead to having a bank roll that is not capable of sustaining a little bit of bad luck.

I also would have certainly rolled back all of mateo's bets. Him winning that much is just not realistic. The odds of him having that great of a winning streak are just not there. He had to have somehow had advance knowledge of the server seed and acted accordingly. This is another reason why betting should have been stopped and why the code should have been more closely inspected.

I would not say 100% that this was in fact a scam by dicebitco.in as it would have been much easier to simply run off with the bankroll and delete the database with all the account information. I would however certainly say that a scam was pulled off.
legendary
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September 08, 2014, 12:23:12 PM
#59
legendary
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#Free market
September 08, 2014, 12:22:26 PM
#58
This is amazing ! Very very amazing  Roll Eyes  .
legendary
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September 08, 2014, 12:16:11 PM
#57
sr. member
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I lost the liqour money boys...
September 08, 2014, 12:15:02 PM
#56
Final cold wallet funds ended up in these 2 addresses. Are we expected to believe nobody has withdrawn since then? Not one single satoshi?

https://blockchain.info/address/1N61semERRahc7ivnDT9botTzU8GmZ3bP3
https://blockchain.info/address/132cHaSFGVbakQVsSwzR1Y3QPFXZ1WPyi1

Someone explain why the last of the cold wallet funds reside here and are untouched.
legendary
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September 08, 2014, 12:13:44 PM
#55
Martijnvdc, I sympathise with you. I have 0.1 BTC sitting in DB, been trying to withdraw for hours. Seeing their hot and cold wallet is dry, and that I don't get any feedback from the support ticketing system, it is starting to look very bad.

Should I wait? Anyone in the same situation? Anyone with more information?

Wait a bit and I'm sure they will respond.
newbie
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September 08, 2014, 12:12:06 PM
#54
Only imaginary golden buttcoins were lost... in an illegal gambling site. So basically no legal action can be taken.

Still...

Why don't we try to build a social profile for this shithead(s). Put a name on the suspect(s) (notice I didn't say thief/scammer).

Collecting all chat history, hints (timezone etc.)... Judging from his below average intelligence, his "good" coding skills, his arrogance, etc.. I'd say it's
  • a male
  • in his early 20s
  • not a native US or UK citizen, most probably RU, UA
  • ...any idea ?

@dicebitcoin
1) You're guilty. You(they) and his relatives are in immediate danger. You'll hide as long as you can. You take the risk of getting caught and... god know what can happen.
2) You're not (that) guilty. You(they) and his relatives are in immediate danger. You'll hide as long as you can. You take the risk of getting caught and... god know what can happen.
3) You're guilty. You go public (real name, contact info etc) and you confess. So you may get some kind of attention, seek some security. Still, you take the risk of facing someone who wants his buttcoins (or justice) and... only god knows the rest.
4) You're not (that) guilty. You go public (real name, contact info etc) and tell "the thruth" (your side of story). So you may get some kind of attention, seek some security. Still, you take the risk of facing someone who want buttcoins (or justice) and... only god knows what can happen.

I have the feeling you want to be believe that
5) You're not (that) guilty. You don't go public. You've already told your side of the story. Still, you take the risk of facing someone who want buttcoins (or justice) and... only god knows what can happen.

From my POV basically you're fucked. Feel free come here and confess how (un)safe you feel anytime.

Scenario 48484) you've come to an arrangement with the thief because you (or he) threatened him (you) with death.


Buh.. I really want to know the only TRUE story.
legendary
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September 08, 2014, 12:11:11 PM
#53
Fucking hell.  Are you kids completely incapable of giving anybody the benefit of the doubt?  You keep repeating the same tirades over and over again keeping this useless argument at the front of the forum.  Manl paid back bitcoins to the best of his ability.  Case closed.  Fucking get over your circle jerk.

Stop giving him the benefit of the doubt. Anyone related to a site that has crashed and burned should be GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT. Not to get on his nerves but to decide if it was in fact a scam.

Mt. Gox was given benefit of doubt, look where that got us.

And how will anybody benefit if this is indeed proven as a "scam"

Ever since I've joined the Bitcoin community, I've grown to loathe that word.

People will stop discussing wether or not he was trustworthy. It will be case close, finished, done. Next thing.
legendary
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September 08, 2014, 12:09:43 PM
#52
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You just popped up out of nowhere, anonymous and no real track record yet everyone flocked to you and trusted you because of dooglus. Now you recommend another site that has been around even less time? Ridiculous.

To be fair to Dice.ninja this is not their first dice site. They are also the developers and admins of Jpcdice.com and Darkdice.net. Although Dice.ninja is only a few weeks old they have been running dice sites for much longer.

Look what happened when DiceBitcoin used that as 'trust' "oh we already have a big litecoin dice site, so please trust us". Nope
newbie
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September 08, 2014, 12:09:03 PM
#51
Martijnvdc, I sympathise with you. I have 0.1 BTC sitting in DB, been trying to withdraw for hours. Seeing their hot and cold wallet is dry, and that I don't get any feedback from the support ticketing system, it is starting to look very bad.

Should I wait? Anyone in the same situation? Anyone with more information?
legendary
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September 08, 2014, 12:07:57 PM
#50
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You just popped up out of nowhere, anonymous and no real track record yet everyone flocked to you and trusted you because of dooglus. Now you recommend another site that has been around even less time? Ridiculous.

To be fair to Dice.ninja this is not their first dice site. They are also the developers and admins of Jpcdice.com and Darkdice.net. Although Dice.ninja is only a few weeks old they have been running dice sites for much longer.

Yes I know, they have a couple others, they are all still relatively new though.

They also claimed to never have heard of PRC.

If I was investing in a new site I would expect them to at least know their competition especially if they had
a few sites and are supported heavily by omahapoker of cryptobettingindex, that site which lists all the top dice sites of which PRC is 2nd on the list for top investment.

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