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Topic: Did Bill Gates create Corona Virus (Covid-19) ? - page 11. (Read 3748 times)

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weren't MERS and SARS a type of coronavirus themselves? They pop up every once in a while

Coronaviruses were first discovered in the 1930s
Human coronaviruses were discovered in the 1960s. The earliest ones studied were from human patients with the common cold, which were later named human coronavirus 229E and human coronavirus OC43.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/types.html

The Flu (Influenza) affects the whole body, corona the upper respiratory tract.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza
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weren't MERS and SARS a type of coronavirus themselves? They pop up every once in a while
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Humans can never make viruses If man-made it his medicine would be invented  there's no medicine for this disease  it is a gift of nature  Gates himself is extremely worried about the way to prevent this virus from getting there. it's a present from God and He alone can save us from this virus.
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No, this is just part of nature. Something to be expected in this modern world with large populations and air travel.
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Bill create the corona virus? this theory doesn't make sense...
Bill is famous for his prediction ability, and as far as I know Coronaviruses are a group of related viruses that cause diseases in mammals and birds, I think this kind of speculation will never end.
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Of course Bill Gates didn't create the Coronavirus. He doesn't have the training, and probably wouldn't dirty his hands with something as messy as CV.

The question is, did he PAY to have it created? Or was he just an innocent bystander while CV creation went on without his even noticing... using moneys he donated for other purposes (he thought)?

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The Need for Good Digital ID is Universal

The ability to prove who you are is a fundamental and universal human right. Because we live in a digital era, we need a trusted and reliable way to do that both in the physical world and online.

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It is happening.
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^^^ "These organizations have no authority at all over you or your family." Neither does the IRS. They tell us that taxes are voluntary.

The tactics that give the IRS their authority over your family, and will give Bill Gates authority, work like this.

If Bill Gates says you owe him $100,000, and he takes you to court on it, if you don't know how to show that you don't owe him, you lose. That's the tactic the IRS uses. It's NOT that there is no defence against this tactic, but if you don't know what the defence is, there might as well be no defense.

Regarding the IRS, government placed IRS law right into the laws. But there are loads of people who have shown how IRS law is a voluntary thing for everybody. It's the same for FDA law. One of the simple answers for strict FDA law is the PMA (Private Membership association).

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WHO Celebrating two leaders in global healthcare working together
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Bill Gates Crosses The Digital Rubicon, Says "Mass Gatherings" May Not Return Without Global Vaccine

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In a new interview, Bill Gates authoritatively states that mass public gatherings will not come back "at all" until we have mass vaccination. Who made him king of the world?
https://twitter.com/NewsAlternative/status/1246337502161416192

How come he became such an authority? He doesn't say "may" by the way. Says "will"... until we have -another magic word and not just 1 but 2- "mass vaccination".

So there is not possbility of having an effective cure ha? It is either Bill's way or the high way. To me they are the same way.
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When you see this, you wonder how many things are hidden inside Windows 10, and Windows servers, just to give Gates more power. Go to the article and check the links.


The Scariest Thing That Bill Gates Just Did During This Period of COVID-19 Panic



He doesn't think in terms of freedom for others, especially since he has the money to easily pay for getting the freedom he doesn't want others to have.

In fact, it is clear he doesn't want others to have freedom.

He wrote on Tuesday of this week in the Washington Post:

"Through my work with the Gates Foundation, I've spoken with experts and leaders in Washington and across the country. It's become clear to me that we must take three steps.

"First, we need a consistent nationwide approach to shutting down. Despite urging from public health experts, some states and counties haven't shut down completely. In some states, beaches are still open; in others, restaurants still serve sit-down meals."

What a power freak. First, it is questionable as to whether restaurants should be shut down but why would you want to shut down beaches when there are plenty of indications that vitamin D from the sun can help in warding off viruses?

And as the Washington Times points out:

This — from the guy who practically controls policy at the World Health Organization...


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Is this another conspiracy cause this one is really funny. I think we should set aside these theories right now and think of a way to stop the spread of this pandemic, give the people the information they need to know about the current pandemic instead of inciting panic why not give them hope.

The best way to arrest future pandemics would be to discover the precise nature of this one and, if it is associated with a social engineering project which is not 'open source', then expose the details and players to the sunlight.

Failure to do so makes another 'wave' inevitable.

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Is this another conspiracy cause this one is really funny. I think we should set aside these theories right now and think of a way to stop the spread of this pandemic, give the people the information they need to know about the current pandemic instead of inciting panic why not give them hope.
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It sounds like a conspiracy and it sound too unrealistic. I don't want to believe that Bill Gates could choose this way of solving overpopulation problem.

One has to be pretty ignorant for your first conclusion to be a conspiracy theory. Unfortunately many people here are, especially those that consider themselves "educated".


"Means, motive, and opportunity" doesn't apply if the guy is a billionaire I guess.

These are not the droids we're looking for.  Nothing to see here folks; Move along.

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It sounds like a conspiracy and it sound too unrealistic. I don't want to believe that Bill Gates could choose this way of solving overpopulation problem.
One has to be pretty ignorant for your first conclusion to be a conspiracy theory. Unfortunately many people here are, especially those that consider themselves "educated".
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Please can we stop these 'Did x deliberately create covid-19' threads? Or can we at least proceed by means of evidence rather than baseless conspiracy theories? Conspiracy theories are nonsense unless they stand on evidence. Data overrules blind supposition every time. It seems kind of ridiculous to say a) Bill Gates warned against a future pandemic and said we are not ready for it, and b) Bill Gates warned that the world population is too high, therefore c) he caused the outbreak. You can find YouTube videos to back up every lunatic idea in existence. What we need is evidence. You can bet that any eventual solution to this thing is science-based and data-driven, as will be any efforts to mitigate risk in the meantime. Perhaps attribution of cause should be approached in a similar manner? Instead of alternating-caps-grade nonsense.

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There is zero evidence that it is man-made. To suggest without evidence that it is man-made is irresponsible, and diverts attention away from the need to understand the specific natural cause and the transmission mechanism by which it has caused the current global pandemic. If we don't understand it, then we can't prevent things like this (or worse) occurring in future.

In fact there is very strong scientific evidence that it is a natural disease. Conspiracy theorists should have a read of this paper.

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“By comparing the available genome sequence data for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes,” said Kristian Andersen, PhD, an associate professor of immunology and microbiology at Scripps Research and corresponding author on the paper.

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Evidence for natural evolution

The scientists found that the RBD portion of the SARS-CoV-2 spike proteins had evolved to effectively target a molecular feature on the outside of human cells called ACE2, a receptor involved in regulating blood pressure. The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein was so effective at binding the human cells, in fact, that the scientists concluded it was the result of natural selection and not the product of genetic engineering.

This evidence for natural evolution was supported by data on SARS-CoV-2’s backbone – its overall molecular structure. If someone were seeking to engineer a new coronavirus as a pathogen, they would have constructed it from the backbone of a virus known to cause illness. But the scientists found that the SARS-CoV-2 backbone differed substantially from those of already known coronaviruses and mostly resembled related viruses found in bats and pangolins.

“These two features of the virus, the mutations in the RBD portion of the spike protein and its distinct backbone, rules out laboratory manipulation as a potential origin for SARS-CoV-2” said Andersen.

Josie Golding, PhD, epidemics lead at UK-based Wellcome Trust, said the findings by Andersen and his colleagues are “crucially important to bring an evidence-based view to the rumors that have been circulating about the origins of the virus (SARS-CoV-2) causing COVID-19.”

“They conclude that the virus is the product of natural evolution,” Golding adds, “ending any speculation about deliberate genetic engineering.”

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The overwhelming likelihood is that it originated in bats and came to humans via an intermediary species. See quote below (from the link above). There is little scientific doubt as to this origin. Truth is revealed as such because it is backed up by data and evidence. The only real area of debate is whether the virus reached its current mutation before or after the initial transmission to humans.

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Possible origins of the virus

Based on their genomic sequencing analysis, Andersen and his collaborators concluded that the most likely origins for SARS-CoV-2 followed one of two possible scenarios.

In one scenario, the virus evolved to its current pathogenic state through natural selection in a non-human host and then jumped to humans. This is how previous coronavirus outbreaks have emerged, with humans contracting the virus after direct exposure to civets (SARS) and camels (MERS). The researchers proposed bats as the most likely reservoir for SARS-CoV-2 as it is very similar to a bat coronavirus. There are no documented cases of direct bat-human transmission, however, suggesting that an intermediate host was likely involved between bats and humans.

In this scenario, both of the distinctive features of SARS-CoV-2’s spike protein—the RBD portion that binds to cells and the cleavage site that opens the virus up—would have evolved to their current state prior to entering humans. In this case, the current epidemic would probably have emerged rapidly as soon as humans were infected, as the virus would have already evolved the features that make it pathogenic and able to spread between people.

In the other proposed scenario, a non-pathogenic version of the virus jumped from an animal host into humans and then evolved to its current pathogenic state within the human population. For instance, some coronaviruses from pangolins, armadillo-like mammals found in Asia and Africa, have an RBD structure very similar to that of SARS-CoV-2. A coronavirus from a pangolin could possibly have been transmitted to a human, either directly or through an intermediary host such as civets or ferrets.

Then the other distinct spike protein characteristic of SARS-CoV-2, the cleavage site, could have evolved within a human host, possibly via limited undetected circulation in the human population prior to the beginning of the epidemic. The researchers found that the SARS-CoV-2 cleavage site, appears similar to the cleavage sites of strains of bird flu that has been shown to transmit easily between people. SARS-CoV-2 could have evolved such a virulent cleavage site in human cells and soon kicked off the current epidemic, as the coronavirus would possibly have become far more capable of spreading between people.


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Event 201 Pandemic Exercise: Highlights Reel, post date Nov 2019.

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Selected moments from the Event 201 pandemic tabletop exercise hosted by The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY.  The exercise illustrated the pandemic preparedness efforts needed to diminish the large-scale economic and societal consequences of a severe pandemic.
 
Drawing from actual events, Event 201 identifies important policy issues and preparedness challenges that could be solved with sufficient political will and attention. These issues were designed in a narrative to engage and educate the participants and the audience.
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If he did it affects rich countries most
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But I understand where you're coming from -

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-bill-gates-is-dealing-with-coronavirus-outbreak-2020



Why did he give such statement in the first place?

Crikey, again, I myself have said similarly before!  Let’s see...

  • The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918–20 infected 500 million, killed 50 million worldwide (at a time when the world’s population was much smaller, and commercial passenger air transportation did not yet exist—aeroplanes were still quite new technology)
  • The coronavirus outbreak of 2002–03
  • Other reasons I have no time to list here

Maybe there is your “why”.  Just my own little pet theory. Roll Eyes


Yep, that's the why, specially because of the 1918 pandemic, and Bill Gates isn't the only one warning us about this Pandemic. Here's a few people:
Infectious disease expert Michael Osterholm in 2005 wrote about it in a magazine, he also wrote about it in his 2017 book "Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs." Virologist and flu expert Robert G. Webster also predicted it in a book he wrote in December. Epidemiologist Larry Brilliant warned about a pandemic in 2006. 

There's more, you can read it here: https://www.businessinsider.com/people-who-seemingly-predicted-the-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-3

Additional good read from Epidemiologist Larry Brilliant: https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-interview-larry-brilliant-smallpox-epidemiologist/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=wired&utm_social-type=earned&fbclid=IwAR1Rt-SDwpZofSpK4VEtgtqWn_xrLAEPkiZzKDG9PI4-TmZGwVCdLKMOiFw


Why are they warning us? They believed the world is not ready for it. They backed up what Gates said that we should prepare for it like just like how we prepare for war.

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Overwise he is doing a lot to fight it!
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