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I accept as true with you nobody would believe a fool like that and that is to not believe that Gates created the coroner virus it isn't made by anyone. The Coronavirus is a plague and therefore the wrath of God. No drugs are discovered to stop the virus. Only He can save us from this disaster the entire world is horrified and that i can't find how to cure the Coronavirus.
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So many deluded whack jobs here on this forum. You guys should all go live on your flat moon.

Just in case you don't realize it, 'flat earth' is a psy-op which gives losers something to use against ANY idea which doesn't align with their corp/gov programing.  Nobody actually believes the flat-earth nonsense.

The syllogistic logic here is:

 1.  Any idea which I'm triggered by [usually anything not approved by Big Bro] is like 'flat earth'.

 2.  'flat earth' is idiotic.

 3.  therefore, the idea which I'm triggered by is idiotic.

The whole logical chain it itself so stupid (absurdly erroneous premise) that I don't think that formal logicians even have a term for that particular fallacy.

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So many deluded whack jobs here on this forum. You guys should all go live on your flat moon.
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No, I did not—because I did not waste my time downloading and watching a long list of videos as “proofs” of a theory that does not comport with common sense.
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Note that  'super busy' guy here is perfectly happy to accuse people of ducking a challenge even when the response has already been around for a day and the ball is in his court.

 Re: Luciifarian creeper demands undefined number of dead babies (nullius)


Edit:  fixed quotes.

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If you are not going to take a look at the links and say something that actually has a meaning (writing a wall'o text without saying anything doesn't count) ... then why are you here? Go hunt TecShare.  Cool

We got your point, you don't watch youtube and you don't believe there is a possibility of Bill being a fuckface.

Bon voyage.
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The videos I posted are nothing else than Bill Gates' own speeches.

It is interesting you didn't say anything about the content of the videos.

No, I did not—because I did not waste my time downloading and watching a long list of videos as “proofs” of a theory that does not comport with common sense.

You did not even clearly identify the source and content of the videos.  You dumped a bunch of links with clickbait titles and talk beneath a big, scary banner.  If I had a satoshi for every time I had seen a similar format of presentation with Flat Earth, Moon Landing Hoax, etc., etc., ad nauseam, then we would need to hardfork a forbidden increase of max money.  “Watch these ten link-dumped hour-long videos narrated by a breathless nutjob, if you want to know THE TRUTH!!!”


Yes, based on that, I just knew that you were presenting what you purport to be primary-source evidence for a theory that you have vaguely insinuated without bothering to explain in any coherent way.

What in your OP suggests that I should even look (especially when I am under time pressure right now—well, most people are usually busy if their time is worthwhile)?

Nice straw-man. Just because youtube has flatearth videos doesn't mean you can't find anything useful there. If you can't, it means you don't know how to look.

Would you care to watch if I uploaded them to dailymotion or pornhub?

Nice straw-man.  Credibility is not determined by which free-upload video site you put things on.

Also, by the way, I surf the web with a locked-down Tor Browser with Javascript disabled, plus kernel-level restrictions that would prevent audiovisuals from working.  If I want to watch something on Youtube, Dailymotion, Pornhub, or any of these other tube sites, then I use security-isolated youtube-dl manually to download it.  I must expect that that will be worthwhile.  More importantly, I must expect that the time spent watching the long list of videos will be worthwhile.  And no, this doesn’t cut it:

Bill Gates has a warning about deadly epidemics CAN CAUSE HE SAYS 10 MILLION+ DEATHS!! - JUST LISTEN TO THE FIRST 10 SECONDS!

Ahem, no.
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To be fair, this is not a totally bogus idea.  I don't buy it, though, in part because in my research I find the impacts of vaccines to be anything but a positive factor in raising a kid to productive adulthood (where they will, with luck, assist the parent in their old age.)  Being highly devastating to health, vaccines are great for prescription drug and adult diaper sales though.

A question that I have been intending to ask you in the other thread, where you ignored my challenge (just have not caught up there due to it being a low priority amongst high priorities):

Do you suggest to parents that all their kids will be just fine without vaccines, with low or no risk of childhood death from illness?


The ball is in your court over on that thread Mr. We-Need-Dead-Babies (which is a highly technocratic I must say.)

I consider the risk to my minimally vaccinated kid to be extremely low from being harmed by any of the diseases that the vaccines are advertised to protect against for the simple reason that they were already very low by the time they got around to even having a vaccine for them.

I did request the BCG because in my analysis:

 - The environmental risks outweighed the vaccine risks,

 - I consider the theory of operation of this vaccine to be sound and safe,

 - Recent studies (Chinese scientists) shed a lot of light on the mechanics of early post-birth brain development and the effects that various classes of vaccine have on them and BCG was shown to actually be, if anything, helpful.  Unlike Hep-B which was the opposite.

I only have one main concern.  The next move from the pro-vaxxer side will probably be to deliberately release agents which are designed to attack unvaccinated kids.  They will justify it as a good and necessary thing that they must do for the good of the collective because it will increase the number of people having their kids shot up.  I've read enough to see what kinds of creepers are on the so-called 'skeptics' side (orac, skeptical raptor, amazing Randi, etc) and I've zero doubt that they are easily capable of such a strategy.  The tide is turning against the pro-vaxxers and they are likely getting quite desperate.

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Btw, I do think the world is overpopulated and something had to be done.

I agree with him.

But pulling a Thanos on half of the world population by creating a virus? That's fucked up.

I quite liked what Thanos did in the movie. (But that was a fcking movie) Can't believe it is happening for real now. They were preparing us for this.

It is all in front of you.

It seems that the best way to get something done in government or across the nation, especially if it is a big thing that goes against the grain, tell all the people you are in favor of it. That way they will be expecting it to happen, and it won't be as hard to promote, later.

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Youtube is a great place to cook your mind with arrant nonsense.

Rule of thumb:  Anybody who has something serious to report on such matters will reduce it to writing:  An information-dense format that admits easy skimming for early evaluation, and also makes it easy to provide citations to sources of information.

Anytime anybody tells me that there is a big secret with the proofs on Youtube, my response is the same:  Will not waste my time.

FYI, the “all over Youtube” category includes positive proofs that the Earth is flat, the moon landings were a hoax, etc., etc.  Youtube has a sort of a reputation that way.  I know this because I have spent much time researching claims about secret truths.  Some of those claims are not fallacious.  You will not find the proofs on Youtube.


The videos I posted are nothing else than Bill Gates' own speeches.

It is interesting you didn't say anything about the content of the videos. Nice straw-man. Just because youtube has flatearth videos doesn't mean you can't find anything useful there. If you can't, it means you don't know how to look.

Would you care to watch if I uploaded them to dailymotion or pornhub?
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But I understand where you're coming from -

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-bill-gates-is-dealing-with-coronavirus-outbreak-2020



Why did he give such statement in the first place?

Crikey, again, I myself have said similarly before!  Let’s see...

  • The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918–20 infected 500 million, killed 50 million worldwide (at a time when the world’s population was much smaller, and commercial passenger air transportation did not yet exist—aeroplanes were still quite new technology)
  • The coronavirus outbreak of 2002–03
  • Other reasons I have no time to list here

Maybe there is your “why”.  Just my own little pet theory. Roll Eyes



It is not just one sentence which is suspicious, it is everywhere. Watch the goddamn videos. They are all over youtube. There are many more.

Youtube is a great place to cook your mind with arrant nonsense.

Rule of thumb:  Anybody who has something serious to report on such matters will reduce it to writing:  An information-dense format that admits easy skimming for early evaluation, and also makes it easy to provide citations to sources of information.

Anytime anybody tells me that there is a big secret with the proofs on Youtube, my response is the same:  Will not waste my time.

FYI, the “all over Youtube” category includes positive proofs that the Earth is flat, the moon landings were a hoax, etc., etc.  Youtube has a sort of a reputation that way.  I know this because I have spent much time researching claims about secret truths.  Some of those claims are not fallacious.  You will not find the proofs on Youtube.



To be fair, this is not a totally bogus idea.  I don't buy it, though, in part because in my research I find the impacts of vaccines to be anything but a positive factor in raising a kid to productive adulthood (where they will, with luck, assist the parent in their old age.)  Being highly devastating to health, vaccines are great for prescription drug and adult diaper sales though.

A question that I have been intending to ask you in the other thread, where you ignored my challenge (just have not caught up there due to it being a low priority amongst high priorities):

Do you suggest to parents that all their kids will be just fine without vaccines, with low or no risk of childhood death from illness?

...or:

...oh no, I may have just been kicked out.  I said something that I can predict with arithmetical certainty Dr. o_e_l_e_o will disagree with!  Surely, he will now censor me out of existence.

I have long fancied sitting down with an anti-vaxer, looking him deadpan in the eye, and telling him that yes, I fully agree that all childhood vaccinations should be stopped:  Vaccination removes the necessary selective pressure for a healthy, robust, finely-tuned immune system—and substitutes in its place the empty hybris of a supposition that humans can cure all diseases.

Hey, anti-vaxers, here is a challenge for you:  I will publicly support you, if you will be the first to step up and declare that much though we may wish otherwise, we need some more dead kids in each generation—to prevent unlimited mass suffering and potential extinction in all the generations yet unborn.

I need not reach the question of how bad the side effects of vaccines are or aren’t.  Of course, all medicines have side effects.  Whether vaccines are benign except in a few rare, unfortunate cases, or causing widespread injuries about which The Truth is suppressed by The Medical Establishment, the answer is irrelevant to me.

[...]  I don’t need to know medicine:  I know history.  People used to have eight, ten, or even twenty (yes, literally, twenty) kids with the knowledge that some would die, and others would survive...

tvbcof, want to take up my challenge here, where I can’t use self-mod powers to “censor” you?  Stop being a wimp.  Speak up for The Truth!
legendary
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Btw, I do think the world is overpopulated and something had to be done.

I agree with him.

But pulling a Thanos on half of the world population by creating a virus? That's fucked up.

I quite liked what Thanos did in the movie. (But that was a fcking movie) Can't believe it is happening for real now. They were preparing us for this.

It is all in front of you.
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Either it was one of the videos above or some other one, he [Gates] actually said that he has been looking for ways to reduce the world population. WTF? What does that have to do with creating vaccines? You create vaccines to stop people from dying not the other way around.
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The argument that Gates apologists use is that by ensuring that babies will survive through the miracle of vaccines, women won't want to have to many kids.  They'll point to the more developed countries as evidence.

To be fair, this is not a totally bogus idea.  I don't buy it, though, in part because in my research I find the impacts of vaccines to be anything but a positive factor in raising a kid to productive adulthood (where they will, with luck, assist the parent in their old age.)  Being highly devastating to health, vaccines are great for prescription drug and adult diaper sales though.

Another reason I don't buy it is that Gates cannot hide his duping delight and his creepy smirk whenever he talks about how great vaccines are for the recipient and for the world.  Apparently Daddy Gates was head of planned parenthood so it seems that he came from a family of eugenicists (planned parenthood evolving straight out of the eugenics movement which was popular in pre-wwII America but lost it's luster when Nazi Germany implemented what they called 'the American Plan' to strengthen the strain.)

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It is not just one sentence which is suspicious, it is everywhere. Watch the goddamn videos. They are all over youtube. There are many more.
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Of course there is no proof... It is just I find it suspicious that a billionaire like Bill Gates have been talking about reducing the world population, creating effective vaccines, warning people against epidemics etc etc.

What was Bill's profession again?

Was he a doctor?

No.

He is a god damn computer geek.

I wonder what would be his reaction if he will read this thread  Grin But the chance that he will even be checking in this forum will be very small to nil.

But just want to share how Bill Gates is responding to this pandemic

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willyakowicz/2020/03/15/how-billionaires-are-reacting-to-the-coronavirus-pandemic/#6a18f3462e22



But I understand where you're coming from -

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-bill-gates-is-dealing-with-coronavirus-outbreak-2020



Why did he give such statement in the first place?
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Except, he is not only talk.  He is not just expressing his opinion. He is putting serious money on what he is talking about.

And yes, I find it suspicious as fuck.

Just watch the links I posted and you decide.

Either it was one of the videos above or some other one (I know he is talking about it in the 4th link, but I was trying to remember another one), he actually said that he has been looking for ways to reduce the world population. WTF? What does that have to do with creating vaccines? You create vaccines to stop people from dying not the other way around.

It is all in front of you if you know how to look.
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Of course there is no proof... It is just I find it suspicious that a billionaire like Bill Gates have been talking about reducing the world population, creating effective vaccines, warning people against epidemics etc etc.

What was Bill's profession again?

Was he a doctor?

No.

He is a god damn computer geek.

I also have strong opinions on the respective topics of overpopulation, vaccines, and epidemics.  (In my case, that last is my opinion of the risk that modern transportation technology can easily turn a local problem into a global pandemic, almost overnight.  What would happen if another Black Death were to occur in the era of aeroplanes and automobiles?  That would be a nuclear weapon, compared in relative terms to a .22 calibre coronavirus pistol.  No, I do not want to get shot with a .22 pistol, either!)  —Also, many opinions on etc., etc.

I am not a doctor.  I suppose that you could call me “a god damn computer geek” (though I would object, on grounds that I am anti-technocratic).

If I were also a billionaire, would you be suspicious that I had created SARS-CoV-2?  Roll Eyes

People are going to die.  Yes.  That’s life.



I find myself arguing against each and all of:

  • Panic.
  • Fantastic dolts who suppose that SARS-CoV-2 must be somehow of different origins from the 2002–03 SARS-CoV.  Wow, a zoonotic jumped species—as has doubtless been the origin of countless diseases throughout the whole history of all living creatures on Earth.  It is closely related to another zoonotic that also jumped species.  Clearly, the most likely explanation is that this is a genetically engineered bioweapon!
  • Panic.
  • Destroying all that remains of civilization, for the purpose of failing to save it.
  • Panic.
  • Tyranny.  The naïve, fallible mortal human in me is shocked that nobody notices we have instantaneously entered an era of global dictatorship, without any significant resistance or even protest.  The dispassionate scholar knows human nature, and is therefore not surprised.  The new normality is that every government everywhere can issue any “emergency” order they want, and nobody will even complain!  WTF.  Are you awake?  (Nice question.)
  • Panic.
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Nah man, I don't think that's the case. Because even if he's a billionaire, he would still be prosecuted if he's responsible for deaths in a global range. There are lots of other ways to reduce global population and control it, and spreading a new disease is not a good option out of them lol.

Of course, we all have opinions. But did you see what you just said?

Isn't a billionaire kinda smart and shrewd to become a billionaire, and/or maintain his billions? The whole idea of a billionaire doing something that would cause him to be implicated is kinda silly, don't you think? So, bringing it up is kinda silly, don't you think?

What is the best way to keep from being implicated, and yet do the dirty work? Isn't it to simply do the dirty work, and to hide the fact that you are doing it, as much as possible?

If Gates is behind it, or one of several who are behind it, look at how well he/they have hidden the fact. You show it, yourself. You said, "Because even if he's a billionaire, he would still be prosecuted if he's responsible for deaths in a global range." And a lot of people will think just the way you do.

This means that the elite(s) who are behind CV, could best protect themselves by just covertly doing it, and then letting the people find them not guilty in the same way you are.

IF THEY DID IT, they did it covertly enough that it will take a chunk of investigation to prove it. So, in some ways I am saying the same thing you said in your last sentence, above... but not in every way.

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Nah man, I don't think that's the case. Because even if he's a billionaire, he would still be prosecuted if he's responsible for deaths in a global range. There are lots of other ways to reduce global population and control it, and spreading a new disease is not a good option out of them lol.
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