The casino should have good stated and obvious reasons why it wants to conduct surveys from time to time. Otherwise, why should they?
Their concern should be for new users and old users to win and enjoy the benefits of them gambling.
Or is the assessment to determine who can benefit from what program they intend to introduce according to pocket size?
KYC has done that bit any other assessment is for just no ordinary reason at all.
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May 22, 2023, 03:32:41 AM
May 22, 2023, 03:21:07 AM
Do you think casinos should implement a survey assessment from time to time to assess gamblers if they are comfortable spending more and if they are using VPN all the time even if they allow the use of VPN.
Even they do I think it will not work. A gambler without control will find way to continue their gambling habit. Thus, even there's an assessment for every gamblers of the specific casino, they can just act as if they're still playing in moderation. But the truth is they're already drowning to their addiction either to get back what they lost or still wanting to win huge.Moreover it's not the casino's job to check their players if they're still in control or already addicted. The gambler itself is the one responsible if he is spending too much and out of control already. That's why if you can't bear losing your money in gambling then don't gamble at all. If in the end you'll blame the casino for your loss, remember that is your fault for not playing in moderation.
May 22, 2023, 03:06:19 AM
Why should? it is a player's responsibility to be able to manage their finances and they should already understand that when they play on a gambling platform they have to accept the risk that they will use more of their money if they cannot control their urge to play. Gambling platforms only act as operators, who only manage games and ensure that the games they provide run well and there are no problems, that's all. It is not the responsibility of the gambling platforms that their players will use more money on their platforms, unless due to technical problems that cause players to be charged more/twice or other technical problems, only then can players sue the betting platform.
May 22, 2023, 02:37:00 AM
Assessment test should not go the gamblers but to the casino. To know their weak areas of operations. Gamblers have freedom to stake any amount of money they want and it is not the duty of the casino to make any survey test on it gamblers. I see as wrong idea. If they, the casino notice that a particular gambler is spending essence on his gambling habit, I don't think they have anything to do with it because it is the will of the gambler to spend. And they make their Profit from it.
On the one hand, a gambler is a benefit for the casino, on the other hand, if the casino will try to limit the player's bets, the casino will get a more loyal and, most importantly, a loyal audience. If a player loses it all at once, will he come back? Unlikely. And if a player's loss is limited by various factors, he will come to play at the casino more often. In this case, the casino will make more money in the long run, and perhaps that player will also attract his friends.
May 22, 2023, 02:23:40 AM
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In light of two cases about casinos being charged for not stopping one player from playing past his betting threshold and from one demanding one casino to return his losses because of VPN issues.
Do you think casinos should implement a survey assessment from time to time to assess gamblers if they are comfortable spending more and if they are using VPN all the time even if they allow the use of VPN.
Do you think casinos should implement a survey assessment from time to time to assess gamblers if they are comfortable spending more and if they are using VPN all the time even if they allow the use of VPN.
I don't think that implementing surveys and asking the gamblers about their issues would change anything.
It's all about the casino creating clear and simple Terms of Service and keeping it's promises. If the casino has a betting threshold, then it should warn the gamblers on time, when they get past that betting threshold(or block their accounts). If the casino allows VPNs, if should be stated in the Terms of Service, that the casino should not be held accountable if the gambler has problems with his VPN provider.
Having clear and simple rules will help for preventing potential lawsuits in the future.
May 22, 2023, 01:19:58 AM
Assessment test should not go the gamblers but to the casino. To know their weak areas of operations. Gamblers have freedom to stake any amount of money they want and it is not the duty of the casino to make any survey test on it gamblers. I see as wrong idea. If they, the casino notice that a particular gambler is spending essence on his gambling habit, I don't think they have anything to do with it because it is the will of the gambler to spend. And they make their Profit from it.
On the one hand, a gambler is a benefit for the casino, on the other hand, if the casino will try to limit the player's bets, the casino will get a more loyal and, most importantly, a loyal audience. If a player loses it all at once, will he come back? Unlikely. And if a player's loss is limited by various factors, he will come to play at the casino more often. In this case, the casino will make more money in the long run, and perhaps that player will also attract his friends.
May 22, 2023, 12:53:39 AM
Not a bad thing honestly, though IMO it wouldn't be very much effective either.
People can just straight up lie with the surveys themselves and try to act as if nothing wrong is happening with them. Though of course, it will be a great effort from the platform if they are to conduct these wellness checks to their players every now and then in the form of surveys. But then, do not expect that these will help curb the number of problematic gamblers because they can simply choose to ignore these surveys or lie in it.
The point is, at least casinos and other gambling platforms are trying to connect to their user-base. Who knows, maybe some gamblers are just waiting for some tap on the shoulder to do what is right and that could be this survey.
People can just straight up lie with the surveys themselves and try to act as if nothing wrong is happening with them. Though of course, it will be a great effort from the platform if they are to conduct these wellness checks to their players every now and then in the form of surveys. But then, do not expect that these will help curb the number of problematic gamblers because they can simply choose to ignore these surveys or lie in it.
The point is, at least casinos and other gambling platforms are trying to connect to their user-base. Who knows, maybe some gamblers are just waiting for some tap on the shoulder to do what is right and that could be this survey.
May 21, 2023, 11:07:19 PM
[...]Do you think casinos should implement a survey assessment from time to time to assess gamblers if they are comfortable spending more and if they are using VPN all the time even if they allow the use of VPN.
This is for the casinos to avoid issues in the future when players look for loopholes to regain their losses by charging them in court.
I don't know. Surveys would be helpful prior to creating their own rules and regulation and not when they are already in place. They just need to have a better security or maybe tracking system so they can implement those rules effectively. If users can find a loophole then that means the casino failed. I read that similar cases like that were ruled in favor of the players so that's not the casino's first encounter. This is for the casinos to avoid issues in the future when players look for loopholes to regain their losses by charging them in court.
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May 21, 2023, 10:06:00 PM
So far the yes vote is winning with a wide margin
Do You Think Casinos Should Do Survey From Time To Time To Assess You.
Yes - 16 (61.5%)
No - 6 (23.1%)
Maybe - 4 (15.4%)
Total Voters: 26
I'm ok with the survey, this is a reminder that we should abide by the forum rules and bet within our limits, some players forget their limitations because of their eagerness to win back their losses, and the surveys will remind us of our obligation to ourselves and to the casino.
Well, I wouldnt depend on the Pool result to determine the actual outcome of OPs enquiry, for I know that some persons just click on the first option, which is yes, solely to view the result, and I am one of them, I actually clicked *yes on the poll, but if you followed/read my previous comment, I said *no to a survey based on what the op said, but a survey is surely welcome based on if the casino wants to improve their services or want to introduce more service and need customers feedback. Do You Think Casinos Should Do Survey From Time To Time To Assess You.
Yes - 16 (61.5%)
No - 6 (23.1%)
Maybe - 4 (15.4%)
Total Voters: 26
I'm ok with the survey, this is a reminder that we should abide by the forum rules and bet within our limits, some players forget their limitations because of their eagerness to win back their losses, and the surveys will remind us of our obligation to ourselves and to the casino.
May 21, 2023, 09:40:06 PM
I don't think so. This will be a messy feature if they do apply it. Why? Because most gamblers don't want that extra work. This ain't like a free-to-play MMORPG that needs some survey if they are doing fine. We are using real money here to gamble and I don't think the gamblers will find the time to answer those surveys and they would rather play the game and skip it.
I have seen that other thread about the gambler who is suing the gambling operators and I am on the gambling site's defense that it's not their fault.
IMO, once we start gambling we should know the risk that we are taking. There's always a chance we will get addicted to it and that is what we must avoid by being a responsible gambler.
It's not like they forced us to place our bets, it's our choice and if we make a mistake we should claim it, not point fingers or blame it on the business.
I have seen that other thread about the gambler who is suing the gambling operators and I am on the gambling site's defense that it's not their fault.
IMO, once we start gambling we should know the risk that we are taking. There's always a chance we will get addicted to it and that is what we must avoid by being a responsible gambler.
It's not like they forced us to place our bets, it's our choice and if we make a mistake we should claim it, not point fingers or blame it on the business.
May 21, 2023, 09:27:00 PM
I don't mind answering a short survey as a way for them to check in on us, but most casinos are against VPNs, so I voted no. Allowing it might be a solution to stop abuse, but they still have to deal with a new problem(regulation). Some casinos are okay with their players using VPN, but unfortunately, some gamblers will take advantage of this. The spending issue doesn't need this kind of treatment because it reminds me of the case of a gambler that asked for his self-exclusion to be removed and put the blame on the casino after he lost.
May 21, 2023, 07:39:58 PM
So far the yes vote is winning with a wide margin
Do You Think Casinos Should Do Survey From Time To Time To Assess You.
Yes - 16 (61.5%)
No - 6 (23.1%)
Maybe - 4 (15.4%)
Total Voters: 26
I'm ok with the survey, this is a reminder that we should abide by the forum rules and bet within our limits, some players forget their limitations because of their eagerness to win back their losses, and the surveys will remind us of our obligation to ourselves and to the casino.
Do You Think Casinos Should Do Survey From Time To Time To Assess You.
Yes - 16 (61.5%)
No - 6 (23.1%)
Maybe - 4 (15.4%)
Total Voters: 26
I'm ok with the survey, this is a reminder that we should abide by the forum rules and bet within our limits, some players forget their limitations because of their eagerness to win back their losses, and the surveys will remind us of our obligation to ourselves and to the casino.
May 21, 2023, 05:59:03 PM
That is why it is necessary to read casino ToS before registering or at least making a huge deposit. There are thousands of similar cases where casino operators have explained why it is not allowed to use VPN service to play on specific casinos but users prefer to ignore the ToS requirements and keep doing the same mistakes. Obviously, consequences became hard to accept but it is not the responsibility of casinos to forgive them for the user's mistake, IMHO. Just educating yourself before accepting decisions can change everything then both parties will save money, time, and energy within time, IMO.
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May 21, 2023, 05:54:01 PM
Most times we players make things very difficult for this casinos who are already passing through some deep scrutinizing from the legal bodies.
We're are already complaining so much about mere kyc and now we're already wanting the casino be responsible for our behaviors forgetting that gambling is two choices which is win or lose and I have been asking one question in all both threads and my question was that if in course of chasing his losses m, he won some unimaginable amount, would he have asked the casino to pay him back his losses or not to pay him his winnings?
We shouldn't be making things hard for the casino and stick to a particular pattern and as for the cases, I think the casino might get to win this very one.
Well, the Answer to your question is simple, and that is that people tend to complain, nag, regret blame others, over negative outcome, and never seem to do the same on positive outcome, even when the positive happened unexpectedly, this is clearly the human nature so I am not surprised at all.We're are already complaining so much about mere kyc and now we're already wanting the casino be responsible for our behaviors forgetting that gambling is two choices which is win or lose and I have been asking one question in all both threads and my question was that if in course of chasing his losses m, he won some unimaginable amount, would he have asked the casino to pay him back his losses or not to pay him his winnings?
We shouldn't be making things hard for the casino and stick to a particular pattern and as for the cases, I think the casino might get to win this very one.
But all the same, I agree with you based on what you said about causing problems for the casino, but then again, it does not matter how long, there will always be gamblers who blame the casino for their every loss.
May 21, 2023, 05:40:03 PM
Most times we players make things very difficult for this casinos who are already passing through some deep scrutinizing from the legal bodies.
We're are already complaining so much about mere kyc and now we're already wanting the casino be responsible for our behaviors forgetting that gambling is two choices which is win or lose and I have been asking one question in all both threads and my question was that if in course of chasing his losses m, he won some unimaginable amount, would he have asked the casino to pay him back his losses or not to pay him his winnings?
We shouldn't be making things hard for the casino and stick to a particular pattern and as for the cases, I think the casino might get to win this very one.
We're are already complaining so much about mere kyc and now we're already wanting the casino be responsible for our behaviors forgetting that gambling is two choices which is win or lose and I have been asking one question in all both threads and my question was that if in course of chasing his losses m, he won some unimaginable amount, would he have asked the casino to pay him back his losses or not to pay him his winnings?
We shouldn't be making things hard for the casino and stick to a particular pattern and as for the cases, I think the casino might get to win this very one.
May 21, 2023, 05:39:25 PM
Is that even necessary to be doing almost everytime?? Won't the gambler's complain that casinos are also not granting them access to their funds to wager, for some STOPLOSS shit they don't even know?? Cus that's actually how they'll sound... 'Man's want is insatiable'... That quote is applicable in all ramifications, believe me.
Nobody wants to be monitored all the time - especially when having Thier personal dealings... Do you know how stressful it'll be to be monitoring millions of casino accounts just to be sure they're all using VPNs - even if you decide to be sending personal warnings or general flyouts to notify them, they'll see it as a bug. I think they dude is from the westside and wanted to pull a stunt with people funds .
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Nobody wants to be monitored all the time - especially when having Thier personal dealings... Do you know how stressful it'll be to be monitoring millions of casino accounts just to be sure they're all using VPNs - even if you decide to be sending personal warnings or general flyouts to notify them, they'll see it as a bug. I think they dude is from the westside and wanted to pull a stunt with people funds .
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May 21, 2023, 05:38:15 PM
Do you think casinos should implement a survey assessment from time to time to assess gamblers if they are comfortable spending more and if they are using VPN all the time even if they allow the use of VPN.
In regard to VPN surveys, I think casinos can start surveys like that to assess the number of their players using VPNs. The result of such a survey can be used to determine if there is a need to replace/ammend their existing rules regarding VPNs. A short survey is best since gamblers do not want to be disturbed in their activities.
To the survey of gambling spending more than they can or comfortable spending, the falls behind the responsibility of the casino. It is the gamblers decision if they want to spend more on gambling or not. NO casino will stop its players from spending their money on them. Maybe in physical casinos where the managers know their regulars, they stop them if they are spending more than they can afford. But in online casinos, I do not think it is applicable.
May 21, 2023, 04:38:46 PM
In light of two cases about casinos being charged for not stopping one player from playing past his betting threshold and from one demanding one casino to return his losses because of VPN issues.
Do you think casinos should implement a survey assessment from time to time to assess gamblers if they are comfortable spending more and if they are using VPN all the time even if they allow the use of VPN.
This is for the casinos to avoid issues in the future when players look for loopholes to regain their losses by charging them in court.
Reference :
Stake.com not paying out my money
A Gambling Operator Court Case
In speaking about threshold then it is something that not casinos would really be doing because the more addicted the person is the more things that they do prefer.As a gambler then you shouldnt really be shockedDo you think casinos should implement a survey assessment from time to time to assess gamblers if they are comfortable spending more and if they are using VPN all the time even if they allow the use of VPN.
This is for the casinos to avoid issues in the future when players look for loopholes to regain their losses by charging them in court.
Reference :
Stake.com not paying out my money
A Gambling Operator Court Case
that they would really be stopping you midway because the more longer you do stay or playing the more money or revenue that they would get and since its a business then it isnt really that something that you
would really be shocked about.Sky is the limit as long you do have the funds then you do have the time on playing no matter how long it would be. Dont expect for some interference.
You cant really point out your fingers at them just because you had just missed out on stopping or completely lose your capital or bankroll.
As for VPN rules then having those allowing terms and ending up on having issues about VPN just because of this and like that then you could really contest it out because its stated in TOS that it was
allowed, and now you are experiencing difficulties? This does mainly shows on how a certain platform is really that been too shady.
May 21, 2023, 04:14:19 PM
In light of two cases about casinos being charged for not stopping one player from playing past his betting threshold and from one demanding one casino to return his losses because of VPN issues.
Do you think casinos should implement a survey assessment from time to time to assess gamblers if they are comfortable spending more and if they are using VPN all the time even if they allow the use of VPN.
This is for the casinos to avoid issues in the future when players look for loopholes to regain their losses by charging them in court.
Do you think casinos should implement a survey assessment from time to time to assess gamblers if they are comfortable spending more and if they are using VPN all the time even if they allow the use of VPN.
This is for the casinos to avoid issues in the future when players look for loopholes to regain their losses by charging them in court.
That's actually a very neat idea. People sometimes forget the rules of the casino they are playing in. The casino should warn the players from time to time so they won't do something they are going to regret. VPN usage is a great example.
Let's say you are a regular player at "casino A". You play there almost every day. One day somehow you can't access the website and you try a VPN service to see if the website is down for everybody or only in your country... for whatever reason, then you forgot to turn your VPN off and kept playing like that. It might look like an innocent mistake but the casino may use this mistake against you.
A warning every once is a while is a good idea to prevent these "mistakes" from happening.
May 21, 2023, 04:04:34 PM
In light of two cases about casinos being charged for not stopping one player from playing past his betting threshold and from one demanding one casino to return his losses because of VPN issues.
Do you think casinos should implement a survey assessment from time to time to assess gamblers if they are comfortable spending more and if they are using VPN all the time even if they allow the use of VPN.
This is for the casinos to avoid issues in the future when players look for loopholes to regain their losses by charging them in court.
Reference :
Stake.com not paying out my money
A Gambling Operator Court Case
It's not actually a problem to them, they've been reminding gamblers that they should only gamble what they can afford to lose, and if they can't take it anymore, there's always the self-exclusion or they're all free to leave the casino and never pay a visit again.Do you think casinos should implement a survey assessment from time to time to assess gamblers if they are comfortable spending more and if they are using VPN all the time even if they allow the use of VPN.
This is for the casinos to avoid issues in the future when players look for loopholes to regain their losses by charging them in court.
Reference :
Stake.com not paying out my money
A Gambling Operator Court Case
At most times, it's not the casino's problem because they've been there to make money and it's a business. While those addicted gamblers, when they lose money, can't take it and they look for someone to blame their losses and the one that's always taking the blame is none other than the casino they're gambling with. But detecting a user's activity and asking a survey is actually a good idea to gather data from their users on these actual problems.
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