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Topic: Do you think Lightlord behavior is acceptable? - page 9. (Read 4319 times)

legendary
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people, maybe we should slow down a bit.
Yes, he was late with the payment and this is not the first time, but he has been running that campaign for years and why can’t we accept that he had some personal problems in real life? I don't know what the reason is, I don't even want to ask for his explanation for the delay. I guess he has a right to his privacy.
he also did not return and immediately started making excuses and asking for forgiveness. I believe he had a real reason to be absent and that there was no intention of deception here at any time.
running campaign 7+ years and during that time 2 or 3 delays, wherein the end everything paid off, it deserves to be well thought out before a final negative judgment is reached.

something else is the way to run a campaign and not use escrow so far, and here we can give a judgment, that he was not very professional for that.
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Call me crazy if you want, because I don't know you, but seeing your red trust feedbacks, I think that defending Lightlord is a way of saying that in this forum feedbacks are given unfairly, and therefore your feedbacks were also unfair.

As Spock would say: "only quickseller would go into bat for lightlord at a time like this..."

The person who posted immediately prior to quickseller is just Trolling that person and isn't genuinely interested in helping with your plight.

I'll keep my negative trust feedback of lightlord for the time being - same as everyone else.

Regards,
legendary
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Not sure what drugs Quicksy is on today, but being consistently late for long periods of time is contrary to sane expectations in a business deal. Having an eight year history of that kind of behavior is not a good thing.

Gotta say though I'm happy to see that some red trust ratings cured lightlord of whatever his illness was.

LMAO.

Trading partners are well aware of his tendency to change at late. He pays extra when he pays late. Late payments are common when dealing with businesses.

LL pays late but he also compensates for the late payments. If a late payment is a concern, you can look at his neutral trust.

You say trading partners as if the only people who do business with Lightlord are those who have known him all their lives.

When he takes a month to pay people who request a big withdrawal from his casinos does he also give extra money? I ask because I haven't heard anything about that. In the signature campaigns he does. I don't know if it will do much good to the one who ends up losing all his money before the withdrawal becomes effective, if Lightlord gives him some bonus satoshis.

Call me crazy if you want, because I don't know you, but seeing your red trust feedbacks, I think that defending Lightlord is a way of saying that in this forum feedbacks are given unfairly, and therefore your feedbacks were also unfair.

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It seems that LL has a history of being slow to pay, potentially going back to 2013. He sent a positive trust rating to Nolo indicating he sent a bonus for Nolo having to wait.

When you are running a business and doing business with other businesses, one fact of life is that you will not always be paid on time.

I remind you that the feedbacks we have left are not for not paying. They are for late payment. When a person takes longer than promised to pay you, you never know if he will finally pay you until he does.

Not sure what drugs Quicksy is on today, but being consistently late for long periods of time is contrary to sane expectations in a business deal. Having an eight year history of that kind of behavior is not a good thing.

Gotta say though I'm happy to see that some red trust ratings cured lightlord of whatever his illness was.
SSRIs are working quite fine. Thanks for the concern.

Trading partners are well aware of his tendency to change at late. He pays extra when he pays late. Late payments are common when dealing with businesses.

LL pays late but he also compensates for the late payments. If a late payment is a concern, you can look at his neutral trust.
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It seems that LL has a history of being slow to pay, potentially going back to 2013. He sent a positive trust rating to Nolo indicating he sent a bonus for Nolo having to wait.

When you are running a business and doing business with other businesses, one fact of life is that you will not always be paid on time.

I remind you that the feedbacks we have left are not for not paying. They are for late payment. When a person takes longer than promised to pay you, you never know if he will finally pay you until he does.

Not sure what drugs Quicksy is on today, but being consistently late for long periods of time is contrary to sane expectations in a business deal. Having an eight year history of that kind of behavior is not a good thing.

Gotta say though I'm happy to see that some red trust ratings cured lightlord of whatever his illness was.
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Yes, it is one of the things that reflects suchmoon's feedback: "fails to communicate". This is not the first time this has happened, as Quickseller says it goes back to at least 2013, so I am not going to change the feedback any time soon, nor do I think any of the others will. When an adult has a certain way of proceeding, it takes a lot to change it.

Exactly. Even if you're a late payer, at least providing updates or some reasonable explanation would soften the impact. If I were a CM, I'd be hesitant to continue a signature campaign if there are no payments after 2 weeks and nothing to inform the participants whatsoever.

Also most of us would expect BrainBoss to be entrusted with the funds given that he's managed multiple campaigns over the years and (supposedly) gained lightlord's trust.
legendary
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In any event, it seems that lightlord has resolved the issue as he has agreed to keep payments in escrow.

It is not so clear to me that this avoids future problems. The last time there were problems, 3 or 4 years ago, the funds were in escrow and the payments were made by the campaign manager. Imagine that when the escrow is at 0 Lightlor disappears for several weeks. I think something like that happened.


It seems that LL has a history of being slow to pay, potentially going back to 2013. He sent a positive trust rating to Nolo indicating he sent a bonus for Nolo having to wait.

When you are running a business and doing business with other businesses, one fact of life is that you will not always be paid on time.

I remind you that the feedbacks we have left are not for not paying. They are for late payment. When a person takes longer than promised to pay you, you never know if he will finally pay you until he does.

But at the end of the day @quickseller, lightlord said nothing for ten weeks.

As has been said early in this thread, unless you really are on your death bed, then you should be making some sort of statement of intent to pay or not as the case may be.

Yes, it is one of the things that reflects suchmoon's feedback: "fails to communicate". This is not the first time this has happened, as Quickseller says it goes back to at least 2013, so I am not going to change the feedback any time soon, nor do I think any of the others will. When an adult has a certain way of proceeding, it takes a lot to change it.
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But at the end of the day @quickseller, lightlord said nothing for ten weeks.

As has been said early in this thread, unless you really are on your death bed, then you should be making some sort of statement of intent to pay or not as the case may be.
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Any negative trust he receives should be removed once he catches up on payments.
I disagree with that, since this is the second time his campaign participants have had serious issues with payment.  It's just not acceptable behavior, and I thought I was being generous last time by changing my negative to a neutral.  This time I think he's earned a neg, regardless of what reasons or excuses he has for not paying out and not communicating.  Enough is enough with this guy.
If he pays his debt, there is no reason why he should have a negative.

Here I agree more with The Pharmacist. I have left Lightlord neutral feedback for the moment, but I think everyone who deals with him on money matters should be aware of how he behaves.

I am still owed money by Lightlord, Quickseller, I said so on the first page.

The fact that I do you a service and you, who have promised to pay me next week take 4,5, 10 weeks to pay me or more, seems to me at least morally questionable and at least makes me doubt whether I should leave him negative feedback as The Parmacist has done.

Since he's supposedly sick, I'm going to do what I said, wait a couple of weeks and see how it goes.
Well this has been an issue for a while, people have known this is an issue and have continued doing business with him anyway. When he is late paying, he compensates those that he owes by paying extra. I am not sure what else you could ask of him.

In any event, it seems that lightlord has resolved the issue as he has agreed to keep payments in escrow.


It seems that LL has a history of being slow to pay, potentially going back to 2013. He sent a positive trust rating to Nolo indicating he sent a bonus for Nolo having to wait.

When you are running a business and doing business with other businesses, one fact of life is that you will not always be paid on time.
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I can tell you for a fact that majority of the participants of the campaign don't care promoting for weeks as they are assured lightlord always pays and again this is the most consistent campaign currently on the forum and still paying in Bitcoin. Well things are looking good now and hopefully we find a way to works out things better for the participants because they deserve better for sticking to this projects for years even though it's not the best paying campaign out there.
Do you have any plans to escrow the funds just like what Hhampuz did before?. I know you are not Hhampuz but in that way participants won't worry anymore of these many weeks not getting paid yet. If I am one of the participants in any of lightlord's sig campaign then I would recommended you to escrow the funds as I am sure you'll do a great job. I know you also managed other campaigns.

I will put in escrow in the campaign, so payment is every week and on time without delay going forward

In my opinion you should definitely escrow 2 to 4 weeks of payments with your campaign manager (brainboss) in advance so that this kind of mishap doesn't happen again.
I would also recommend the campaign's BM CryptopreneurBrainboss to escrow the funds.
legendary
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lightlord always seems willing to pay once he gets red trust & people call him out. It shouldn’t come to that tbh but at least he’s seemingly going to pay. Hope this is the kick up the ass lightlord needed but we have been here before.
So it's seems that he comes up with this thread and does not want to further deteriorate his image as red trust warning was given once again with the payment issue.But in the end participants will get much awaited payment which matters the most.I think this discussion has brought up to this early otherwise it could have delayed even more.



In my opinion you should definitely escrow 2 to 4 weeks of payments with your campaign manager (brainboss) in advance so that this kind of mishap doesn't happen again.
That sounds feasible option as it could have the manager and members trust that further weeks payment is safe and they will get them without any major delays and they don't regularly complaint about it.
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I will put in escrow in the campaign, so payment is every week and on time without delay going forward
This is a good thought considering your busy schedule (I assume).
A 2/3 multi signature wallet will do the job for you. You can be one cosigner and the others can be anyone from the forum.

In my opinion you should definitely escrow 2 to 4 weeks of payments with your campaign manager (brainboss) in advance so that this kind of mishap doesn't happen again.
In a multi signature wallet, he can send as much as he wants. After all, all this funds will be used to pay the participants.
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I will put in escrow in the campaign, so payment is every week and on time without delay going forward

In my opinion you should definitely escrow 2 to 4 weeks of payments with your campaign manager (brainboss) in advance so that this kind of mishap doesn't happen again.
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@CryptopreneurBrainboss, the community would ask as well to you why have you run a campaign for TEN weeks since Lightlord not paying? You can't ignore your responsibility as well. Hope you are trying your best to resolve the allegation about the participant's payments.

This isn't the community asking, this is you asking so I'll answer but it's quite obvious if you follow the campaign thread, after several delays in the past although all previous payout has been made after the delay, I decided to make things easier for the participants so they don't see it as a delay but like part of the system. Usually they get paid every 6-7 weeks for a weekly campaign so why not make it a bi-monthly campaign so they program themselves of recieving the payment every two months then also it'll help lightlord out for whatever reason that makes him pay every 7weeks.

Majority where okay with this most especially as the campaign has paid them for years, after the 8week, payout spreadsheet got handle over to lightlord and we all were waiting for payment but it didn't get processed then the 9th week which then got to my attention he wasn't active on the forum to process the transaction. I couldn't just end the campaign then as every week that has begun has to be accounted for (thats my rule of management). I announce of pausing the campaign at the 10week if previous payment hasn't been made and still many came begging not to pause the campaign.

I can tell you for a fact that majority of the participants of the campaign don't care promoting for weeks as they are assured lightlord always pays and again this is the most consistent campaign currently on the forum and still paying in Bitcoin. Well things are looking good now and hopefully we find a way to works out things better for the participants because they deserve better for sticking to this projects for years even though it's not the best paying campaign out there.
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lightlord always seems willing to pay once he gets red trust & people call him out. It shouldn’t come to that tbh but at least he’s seemingly going to pay. Hope this is the kick up the ass lightlord needed but we have been here before.
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I will put in escrow in the campaign, so payment is every week and on time without delay going forward

What's the point of escrowing the funds( elsewhere) when you have a long-term relationship with a trusted and reputable manager, CB? Managers, like any other campaign on the forum, should be the ones to pay. Your response, on the other hand, comes as a huge relief to your sig team. Let's see how this story unfolds over the next 48 hours.
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I will put in escrow in the campaign, so payment is every week and on time without delay going forward


Well, at least we know you're alive and well.  Wink

Yes, that would be good. Or, if you trust your bounty manager, you could also transfer the funds to him a few weeks in advance, and let him handle the payouts each week. That way, he can easily put campaigns on hold if you disappear again. You don't need to go through all this drama every few months over and over.
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You need to take a chill pill, Pal. 

Yeah, ok. We are good now.

I will put in escrow in the campaign, so payment is every week and on time without delay going forward

Hello Lightlord. Glad you are better, if you were sick as stated on the forum. I have nothing personal against you.

In my case, that I was one of those who left you negative feedback, being that it is not the first time this happened, for me to change it would have to spend a long, long time seeing that payments are made weekly without any problem.
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I will put in escrow in the campaign, so payment is every week and on time without delay going forward
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Well...

Well...

Well...

I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.

you were faster than me  Grin



I think this issue of late payments is something that the manager and the casino owner need to come to terms with, something like always leave in advance the payment of 4 or 8 weeks with the manager, if the casino owner knows that the campaign is for the long term, he should think about leave in advance the money of 4 or 8 weeks to the manager, this will avoid delays in payment.
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