Topic: Do you think Lightlord behavior is acceptable? - page 7. (Read 4311 times)

Today the guy that didn't receive his winnings posted this screenshot, I'm at loss for words...

He doesn't pay the mods at all.

I was in the 777coin campaign and only started looking for another signature campaign when the payments shifted (without explanation) to a fortnightly payment. The tier system was also a little jaring, but, being in such a campaign gave me prior history I could demonstrate when applying for any new campaigns I choose to apply to join.

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Perhaps giving an undertaking to place participants of these two campaigns on ignore might hold the owner, lightlord to be more prompt with their obligations.

I expected someone whose thread was open against to say "oh sorry my bad I've already proceeded payments and this is the reason I'm paying late," but No! He returned and gave himself another 48 hours, only to pay a few minutes before the time ran out; I'm sure someone had to contact him to remind him of his commitment. So unprofessional for someone who has been in business for a long time


They had been owed for 10 weeks and none of them sneezed to save themselves; instead, a random user from another campaign came to their rescue, and they protested even when the campaign was paused because they knew no other campaign would accommodate their shitposting lifestyle and were willing to wait a year without payment.


He was not accused of scamming or engaging in scamming activities; rather, he was accused of being unprofessional in his business, and he must demonstrate otherwise. A well-deserved tag. I'm still keeping an eye on the situation, so I haven't added mine yet.

Exactly. Any self respecting person shouldn't join his campaigns as long as he continues his behavior. If you join his campaigns, it means you deserve the treatment you get. Look there are people that joined yobit campaigns and got treated by the other members horribly. 1xbit participants got even a worse treatment. When you are making a decision, think about the possible outcomes. If the outcomes would affect you in a more negative way, then don't do it. It is that simple.

During the short time I ran signature campaigns, my best users were always the first ones to get swooped by a campaign with better rates too. It's basically the same as any job/employee IRL

Which proves what I said before, that majority of them are  well aware of the fact that they wouldn't be able to join any other campaign so they accept that kind of behavior.

In one of previous posts @yahoo62278 said it is matter of respect, but I would say that it's a matter of self-respect here; majority of people in those campaigns obviously don't have any when it comes to this, if they are willing to be treated like that.


Based on this, he obviously doesn't give a fuck.



While both of those campaigns had some quality members (they probably still do) they didn't produce anything as there is no incentive inside the campaign to write better (as far as I know). No bonuses for best posters, promotion is on first come first serve basis etc. People got out of there (myself included) because they preferred quality writing instead of filling up max quota and making more money in the short term.

You know what's funny even when Hhampuz was in charge and handling payment, it got to some point delays starting coming in and we all know Hhampuz of been this fast and on time campaign manager and probably this wasn't favorable to him so he quit. Well I'm incharge now although I'll be deploying a strategy to combat any delay if noticed, I will paused campaign with immediately effect.

This is unethical but just have to do this; DM between me and lightlord.

Most did, I think chipmixer did accept one or two and Bestchange too. Hhampuz is my biggest export, he takes them every now and then. I groom  and make them exportable lol. ^{some humor you know.}

No, I wouldn't join it (and even rejected managing the campaign because of the low payments for participants, which means I wouldn't be able to get quality posters). But if the campaign I'm in wouldn't pay for a week, I wouldn't leave either. And I can imagine that week could get longer and longer next time without leaving.

I highly doubt that.

That was (more or less) my point: the participants don't leave despite the late payments, they trust they'll get it eventually, and they have no other options anyway. Kinda sad though.

In that case, assuming they're all just shitposters, getting rid of the campaign altogether would be better for the forum.

It's not entirely on you, at a certain pay rate you can only get certain quality.

Did the high quality members leave for a campaign with a better pay rate?

After his recent post, has lightlord made you the escrow?

Since you have been doing this for over a year now, there should be some mutual trust established.

While you're not handling the funds, the delays may put you in a bad light, if you get what I mean.

Nice one but again you're entitled to your opinion so no hard feelings here. Well I have stool up for my participants severally when delay have been made. What else can I do to make things easier, I have threatened to pause the campaign previously and he paid immediately that was said. After the resistance from the participants of me not pausing the campaign, I had no choice but to look for alternative to make things easier which resulted to that.

I have written to lightlord severally on taking ownership of the campaign thread and weekly payment before this whole new episodes but seems he wasn't interested as he was comfortable making the payment in his own time.  I have even requested to recreate thread, reduce members and make the campaign more productive (with all expenses covered by me) yet he didn't responded and my graphic designer already know of this because I gave him the contract but later withdraw it as no response.

I understand you just coming out to voice your opinion but maybe next time ask questions. I introduced new rules like merit requirements etc and period of been active to make the campaign less spamming, which worked a little don't forget I inherited initial majority of the participants from previous manager and the rules of removing people from the campaign isn't on my side. I keep putting my best and don't need anybody validation to know I'm giving in my best, if only all I asked for was granted, well.


You think you're better than them, the campaign has produced quite some high quality member that I'm pretty sure if the payment was on time they'll still be with us.

Bolded part is pure bullshit and doesn't make sense. You didn't make it any easier for participants, you only made it easier for yourself so they don't bother you with "wen payment" stuff every few weeks. Instead of standing up for your signature participants, you incorporated delays into the system. But even if you stood up, he would probably replace you with someone else who would do the same as this forum doesn't lack aspiring managers who would do anything to get the gig.


Let's be honest here; of course they don't care as majority of them are shitposters and they are aware that they wouldn't be able to join any other signature campaign that pays in BTC.

By the way, in this regard and expanding on what I was saying before, I remembered that in a post I mentioned both of you. friends1980 wrote a long post in the signature campaign thread criticizing several participants for shitposters. The post was quite long and reasoned, and criticized the manager:


I, believing him to be somewhat right, also responded to him in detail, among other things the following:


When I was in the campaign, there was a minimum requirement to have earned 5 merits in the previous 120 days but since Lighlord lowered the rates, many participants left the campaign and the requirement changed:


So, I don't think we can take the fact of whether or not the current participants leave the campaign as a reference for Lightlord's trust.

Actually yes, the campaign payments are ten weeks late - we've already established that the campaign manager took it upon themselves to declare it to be a bi-monthly payment due to the owner/operator of the two websites being unresponsive for more than a year (that this instance of payments falling behind) and just playing along with the CM when the payments fell behind.

Try reading a thread before you shit post.

Lightlord has paid everyone  and i understand your desperation here. You should post after proper investigation as you are a elite member of this forum.

The payment in this campaign was not 10 weeks late, it was already shifted to bi-monthly campaign. So it was only 2 week late.

Some would not be accepted in other campaigns, as they themselves admit:


I don't think it is expressed very well but the idea is clear.

If they don't have much hope of getting paid for writing for another campaign, they will usually put up with irregularities in payments, lack of communication and whatever else. The 777coin and Bitvest.io campaigns have been accused several times of being full of shitposters. I wouldn't say as much, but it's clear that campaigns that pay 150 per post in the lowest tier are not going to be full of top quality posters.

For my part, I don't know if LoyceV is saying that we should change the feedbacks if people don't have left, but I'm going to wait for a while to see if

1) People keep complaining about the withdrawals problem. Just today we have another complaint although no proof at the moment.

2) This doesn't happen again:

That may be true, although difficult to confirm. However, 99% of forum users don't make 50-60 posts a week simply because they're getting paid.
I'm not saying that all Bitvest campaign participants are spammers, far from it. I just have a feeling that a significant number of them won't post a single post while the campaign is paused.  

As far as I can tell, not much has changed since we discussed it more than a year ago.

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Totally not acceptable. However it can also easily be avoided by not joining any of his sig camps. Not like him? Don't join his sig camps. Obviously he is not scamming anyone. He pays in the end but I wouldn't join a campaign where the manager pays when he is in mood. No. Fuck that. I don't care what the pay rate is. I need consistency.

It is also possible that lightlord collects some kind of interest on people's money. It is doable at freebitco.in. That's not cool. Not cool at all.

High risk doesn't necessarily mean that it's not worth the risk for some. Granted the payouts are not large, but some users are getting bonuses, and some have nowhere else to go.

Would you join one of lightlord's campaigns?

Many were still willing to participate not minding if they haven't be paid for 10weeks they did have trust in lightlord of always paying. 99% are still willing to promote the campaign and already asking when they can resume both publicly and in DM. When you have proven to be consistent for years naturally you get trusted.


The spreadsheet is quite accessible to everyone and you can get whatever data you need from there. The campaign was paused so I don't expect people to make much post and if they did post or didn't, we don't have an issue with that because we aren't paying for those.

Ps: It's no secret that 99% of users on the forum post because they're getting paid.

Question for CryptopreneurBrainboss: Once the campaigns begin, could you please post here how many posts people have actually made since October 10th?

Let's use Round 146 from the spreadsheet as a reference:
Bitvest signature campaign participants