Do you think Lightlord behavior is acceptable? - page 11.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on October 12, 2021, 12:00:55 AM

I hope he can make the campaign participants relieved this time, what will his next response be?

My prediction @lightlord will give an explanation about his condition and then made fully payment the signature payments he owes. After that happen, he will paid the signature participants on time based his explanation (weekly or biweekly). Probably 2-3 years in the future he will repeat his mistake and we will see similar problem again Grin

Based on his reputation and his both casinos in this forum, the chance is slim if the want to scam.

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Is there any progress @CryptopreneurBrainboss? We saw him logged into his account today, maybe he replied to you?

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Quote from: Poker Player on October 11, 2021, 09:50:43 AM

Thank you for informing me of this thread, as I was unaware that it had been opened. I don't want to repeat here what was said there, but summarizing a lot, proper businesses that move a lot of money, think about that according to Stalker22 are owed over $20K just in advertising, they don't get paralyzed because there is a single person who gets sick.

After i came across that thread in gambling discussion i pop up to your thread and thought of sharing with all of us here that there are many others also facing some similar issues.There are huge amounts owned to the third party and participants of the campaign who are eagerly waiting for the amounts to be credited to the account.As i am aware there were always minor delays in payment and they paid it with bonus but later on they keep on increasing the waiting period like bi- monthly and now 10 weeks are pending.The situations are becoming worse for the members now as many have claimed after you opening up the thread.

Quote from: YOSHIE on October 12, 2021, 12:00:55 AM

@lightlord, was active today, did he know of this situation or had someone inform him of this matter.

I think someone should PM one more time for @lightlord, responding to this issue.

I hope he can make the campaign participants relieved this time, what will his next response be?

Yes i also saw that he was active today but his last post are still dating back to Sep 1st regarding the Eloncoin and after that he has not posted anything.But he must give concern to the matter here as members are not asking for loan or free money but for the weeks they have worked.So the matter should be resolved.

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@lightlord, was active today, did he know of this situation or had someone inform him of this matter.

I think someone should PM one more time for @lightlord, responding to this issue.

I hope he can make the campaign participants relieved this time, what will his next response be?

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Finally someone brought this up.

I was part of the 777 coin campaign circa 2020 and the delay started during the COVID pandemic.

Started off 1 week late, which then progressed further to 2, 3 and so forth.

The thing is, he's not shedding light (pun intended) on what's happening.

Also his free BTC thread has been abandoned while some members continue to post, in hopes of getting free reloads or just to fulfil their quota. Should be removed since its dead.

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First of all:

Hopefully this will be resolved soon.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on October 11, 2021, 10:54:59 AM

While it's true that with great power comes great responsibility (Spidey senses are tingling), let me give you a small piece of advice: Sometimes you have to be bold, and this is one of those cases IMO where the use of your DT2 powers is justified--and I've already given my reasoning on that in my previous posts, so I won't repeat the same arguments again.

I have been reading about the Trust system recently and have started my custom trust list. You are one of the ones I have added. I have also changed the tag from neutral to negative.

Quote from: OgNasty on October 11, 2021, 04:56:56 PM

Seems like you were well aware of what you were getting yourself into when you signed up to take part in the campaign. I would advise you to avoid participating in services if you don't like how the service is run. Joining and then complaining seems counterintuitive. Not to mention now you're literally shitting on the campaign and probably expecting to stay in it and keep getting paid. People here get pretty emotional when the mouth they're feeding bites them. I would advise you to exercise your freedom of choice if you do not like the campaign you are in.

Really, OG? Stalker22 has already told you, but I will expand on it. For someone who has been on the forum for so long, who is legendary and donator, I would expect more than a response that indicates you haven't read anything I've said. Even if you have read what I said, you haven't read it thoroughly because you haven't understood anything.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on October 11, 2021, 06:50:05 PM

I have concerns that these two were registered on the forum seventeen days apart: (and are "childhood friends")

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2011-06-11, 13:43:58 Date Registered: Zodiac1233
2011-06-28, 22:03:49 Date Registered: lightlord

2021-08-06, 12:43:39 Last Active: Zodiac1233
2021-09-27, 01:01:07 Last Active: lightlord

Joining after a few days could be recommended by Lightlord to their childhood friend in any case it's both went inactive but there's a huge gap between them being inactive.
I am not sure if they're owned by the same person why would lightlord say it's his friend in the first place, Someone who tries to hide their account's connection mostly tries to avoid direct contact but there's a feedback sharing "Childhood friend" that seems legit to me.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_Arena on October 11, 2021, 03:56:44 PM

This is a good find. Most of his posts last year clearly show that he's part of the Bitvest team. Maybe a developer.

What is disappointing is that he has also been offline since August 06, 2021

I don't know if there are any issues coming up on Bitvest and 777coin, but I would certainly stop using those sites as a precaution.

What's even more interesting is their last post (in August 2020) reads in part:

Quote from: Zodiac1233 on June 20, 2020, 05:51:30 AM

On June 17, 2020, an exploit was made against how we handle ETH contract deposits.

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It was caught quickly, and the losses mitigated before any losses exceeding the size of our hot wallets occurred.

and then there's this:

Quote from: lightlord on August 14, 2021, 12:02:25 AM

Seems my account has been permanently banned from discord. Not sure why.

Six days later, it's business as usual:

Quote from: lightlord on August 20, 2021, 01:36:18 AM

The new official eloncoin discord link is: https://discord.gg/kqSkxuSAjH

Coincidentally, Zodiac1233 was Last Active: 2021-08-06, 12:43:39 (GMT +10 OR 02:43:39 GMT +0) - four hours prior to lightlord posting the above.

As far back as 25 Nov 2013 01:32:36 UTC with just 89 posts (and having registered on Date Registered: June 11, 2011, 03:43:58 AM GMT) Zodiac1233 was active in the 777coin campaign and had on their profile that they are from Canada - Archive [1a], [1b]

I haven't delved into the spread sheet to see when Zodiac1233 joined that campaign - anyone?

Also, can anyone confirm who other "owners" / "admin of the two sites are?

I have concerns that these two were registered on the forum seventeen days apart: (and are "childhood friends")

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2011-06-11, 13:43:58 Date Registered: Zodiac1233
2011-06-28, 22:03:49 Date Registered: lightlord

2021-08-06, 12:43:39 Last Active: Zodiac1233
2021-09-27, 01:01:07 Last Active: lightlord

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Quote from: OgNasty on October 11, 2021, 04:56:56 PM

Seems like you were well aware of what you were getting yourself into when you signed up to take part in the campaign. I would advise you to avoid participating in services if you don't like how the service is run. Joining and then complaining seems counterintuitive. Not to mention now you're literally shitting on the campaign and probably expecting to stay in it and keep getting paid. People here get pretty emotional when the mouth they're feeding bites them. I would advise you to exercise your freedom of choice if you do not like the campaign you are in.

What are you talking about Og? As he stated in the first post, Poker Player is no longer participating in the Bitvest campaign, but still has an outstanding claim.

Quote from: Poker Player on October 10, 2021, 01:37:03 AM

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In the end I left the campaign because I found a better one and I am still waiting to be paid for two weeks from 10-11 weeks ago.

Besides, you may have overlooked the fact that lightlord owes both campaigns participants for more than 10 weeks now. This has grown into a substantial amount:

Quote from: Stalker22 on October 10, 2021, 12:31:15 PM

Based on the spreadsheet, the total amount overdue for the last 10 rounds is: 0.2359419 (Bitvest) + 0.1070795 (777Coin), or about $19,000 based on Bitcoin's current value (not including bonuses). Quite a bit, I must say.

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Quote from: Poker Player on October 10, 2021, 01:37:03 AM

When I started with the campaign, there was already a delay of about 5 weeks in paying us, then it went up to 6, then 7. Someone who had been with the campaign for a long time explained that in principle the payments were supposed to be weekly, but it usually took 2 weeks to pay, then 3, then 4.

Seems like you were well aware of what you were getting yourself into when you signed up to take part in the campaign. I would advise you to avoid participating in services if you don't like how the service is run. Joining and then complaining seems counterintuitive. Not to mention now you're literally shitting on the campaign and probably expecting to stay in it and keep getting paid. People here get pretty emotional when the mouth they're feeding bites them. I would advise you to exercise your freedom of choice if you do not like the campaign you are in.

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Quote from: meser# on October 11, 2021, 03:03:35 PM

When I did a little research, the account named @Zodiac1233 is another founder of bitvest. He's also lightlord's childhood friend (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=21720) . I tried to send mail but it could not be delivered. For now, I think we can reach the most accurate and clear information from the zodiac.

This is a good find. Most of his posts last year clearly show that he's part of the Bitvest team. Maybe a developer.

What is disappointing is that he has also been offline since August 06, 2021

I don't know if there are any issues coming up on Bitvest and 777coin, but I would certainly stop using those sites as a precaution.

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When I did a little research, the account named @Zodiac1233 is another founder of bitvest. He's also lightlord's childhood friend (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=21720) . I tried to send mail but it could not be delivered. For now, I think we can reach the most accurate and clear information from the zodiac.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 11, 2021, 11:34:29 AM

By the way, these are the addresses that lightlord makes 777 and Bitvest signature campaign payments through;
1BitvestxmKKNRjxyHh5Mn1iWovFzs93Hr and 1777CoinbQutKJdCsMryj5CcEWGwx2sWRw .

There is no transaction that has been made through these addresses also. Maybe this can make us keep our hopes up about that lightlord is really in no condition to get access. But still, I think that people on forum should show a firm attitude against lightlord as this situation doesn't happen for the first time.

Makes you wonder if in the future if this campaign continues lightlord would be willing to use a 2 of 3 multisig wallet with CryptopreneurBrainboss and a trusted 3rd person.

When sending payments lightlord & CryptopreneurBrainboss both have to sign off on it. But if lightlord goes dark again CryptopreneurBrainboss can contact the 3rd person, send out whatever BTC is sill sitting in the wallet and halt the campaign.

And for good measure make sure that on average there is at least a few weeks of BTC in the wallets. So if a very long delay like this happens again people many not get the full amount they are owed they at least get some.

It is far from an ideal situation, but it might work.

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We have an idiom in Turkey:

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Don't say you have wheat in the farm, until when you don't take it to the barn.
Don't say you have a good child, until he/she get married.
Don't say you have a loyal wife, until when you don't see a bad day
Don't say you have a good brother, until when the inheritance is not divided

Don't say you have signature campaign reward until lightlord send it Wink

As far as I understand, there is a statement that he is sick and eloncoin's discord channel admin made this statement. I tried to join this channel, but the invite link has expired. Can someone who is already on this channel contact this admin to get new information. He'd have to be on his deathbed or something like that to stay away that long.

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By the way, these are the addresses that lightlord makes 777 and Bitvest signature campaign payments through;
1BitvestxmKKNRjxyHh5Mn1iWovFzs93Hr and 1777CoinbQutKJdCsMryj5CcEWGwx2sWRw .

There is no transaction that has been made through these addresses also. Maybe this can make us keep our hopes up about that lightlord is really in no condition to get access. But still, I think that people on forum should show a firm attitude against lightlord as this situation doesn't happen for the first time.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on October 11, 2021, 10:54:59 AM

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Quote from: Poker Player on October 10, 2021, 10:18:46 PM

First to The Pharmacist: Brainboss does not have access to funds. You can see that at present it is different from the case you comment on Lutpin. It is Lightlord who makes the payments.

Yeah, I'm not holding CCB accountable for any of this. It's all on lightlord. Doesn't he send the funds to CCB to pay out the participants, though? That's the way other campaigns work. Maybe I didn't read deeply enough into this thread, but I thought I read all the pertinent facts.

No, actually
After the management of the campaign was transferred to CCB, it was LL that was sending payments now since, while before it was Hhampuz that both manages the campaign while also processing the payments.
Not sure why though

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Well i joined 777 Signature campaign 2 months ago, it was written that the payments are bi-monthly so i joined this campaign and i also planned to do some thing which those amount, but 2 months passed and not recieved single payment till now.
This thing should not happen because i only joined because i read that i will get paid in 2 weeks, even if i get paid now that will not compensate the thing that when i needed the money I did not got that, i planned something with those funds and due to this i am not able to do that.

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Quote from: Poker Player on October 10, 2021, 10:42:41 PM

It's not so much doubt as insecurity, and more so now that I'm in D2, I don't want to rush. I opened this thread to see what people thought but since I can change the feedback to negative at any time, it looks like I will end up doing it.

While it's true that with great power comes great responsibility (Spidey senses are tingling), let me give you a small piece of advice: Sometimes you have to be bold, and this is one of those cases IMO where the use of your DT2 powers is justified--and I've already given my reasoning on that in my previous posts, so I won't repeat the same arguments again.

Quote from: suchmoon on October 10, 2021, 10:31:57 PM

but this one's blown bigly

That's a very interesting turn of phrase, one I may steal from you for use away from this forum.

Quote from: Poker Player on October 10, 2021, 10:18:46 PM

First to The Pharmacist: Brainboss does not have access to funds. You can see that at present it is different from the case you comment on Lutpin. It is Lightlord who makes the payments.

Yeah, I'm not holding CCB accountable for any of this. It's all on lightlord. Doesn't he send the funds to CCB to pay out the participants, though? That's the way other campaigns work. Maybe I didn't read deeply enough into this thread, but I thought I read all the pertinent facts.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on October 11, 2021, 08:36:39 AM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on October 10, 2021, 09:17:44 PM

I only ask because I don't know how many weeks behind the various recipients are owed their back pay - I did see ten weeks in one post, is this correct? Also, another post made mention of a "bonus" being paid as a "late fee" - is this paid across the board?

This was the calculation I did a few posts back. CryptopreneurBrainboss can confirm whether this is correct.

Quote from: Stalker22 on October 10, 2021, 12:31:15 PM

Based on the spreadsheet, the total amount overdue for the last 10 rounds is: 0.2359419 (Bitvest) + 0.1070795 (777Coin), or about $19,000 based on Bitcoin's current value (not including bonuses). Quite a bit, I must say.

Thanks for providing this information - although I'm prepared to accept the "benefit of the doubt" arguement for the last two or three weeks being described as "sick leave", I can't help but wonder why @lightlord said nothing in the intervening seven or eight weeks prior to that??

Or, in the preceding twelve or more months since the payments to participants slipped from weekly to semi weekly then every once in a while.

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Who runs multiple websites and never checks on them or goes months without checking on them? If you are that type of person, why wouldn't you have a second in command to communicate what may or may not be going on? At the very least Lightlord should have someone who has multiple ways to get a hold of him to top up wallets for both the websites and the campaigns.

I've seen multiple people say give him more time, and others who have made good points as to how other members would be treated. I think the community needs to stand up for itsself here and say enough is enough. If this was 1 time, I would say look the other way since he has been running the sites for years now. Obviously this is not 1 time and shouldn't be acceptable.

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