Topic: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? - page 82. (Read 20577 times)

AND doctors. Don't underestimate the fact that you are finally getting rid of the 99% of doctors.

Right! Even if the vaccine-like test drug doesn't kill the people, they will become so extremely inadequate as human beings that they might as well be dead.

This means that we'll be getting rid of any effective Antifa and BLM people first.

Hi,
Thank you for posting a proper question about a reasonable doubt.
This is the same for every new drug: we have to wait time to be sure of long times effect. This is the so-named "phase IV" of a clinical trial, the continuous pharmacovigilance about the long time effect.
In the past some disasters happened (I.e. talidomide), and every error teached us how to develop safer and safer drugs. This shit had been properly tested (please do not belive what you read there), but like every new drug we cannot be completely sure about long time effects, we can just reasonably predict that it is safe.This goes the same also for every new material (i.e. asbestos) or food or technology. We as humanity can only learn from errors and try to develop better and safer shit. We made errors, but they are relatively rare and are becoming rarer as time pass. And they WERE NOT MADE ON PORPOUSE.

Before injecting I checked some info (I have found besides other things a degree thesis on novel vaccines that was pretty instructive, I would share but it's in italian) and I have come to the conclusion that the mrna vaccine is probably safer that traditional vaccines (that are, of course, safe).

This is due to the fact that they have lesser additives (they are not poisons like stated here, but they can cause some allergic reaction when you inject a great number of people, so the lesser the better), have less cross-reactions and they cannot cause the covid disease (some type of vaccine can cause the disease, although it's very very rare).

On the long term, the most probable thing is that you will lose the temporary immunity you had acquired thanks to the vaccine. And stop. This thing degrades fast, and will affect only some of your fat cells of the arm and the memory of your immune system. Those feared of "reprogramming" are not only incompetent in this matters, but also american zoomers who didn't see beatiful cartoons series instructing 90's kids about the immune system and the transcription mechanism.

On the contrary you can read there about my collegue losing her smell and taste after a covid paucisymptomatic infection in march, and for those who develops pneumonia some grade of permanent polmunary damage is not uncommon even in younger patients, also in cases that did never need pulmonary support.

You can choose the risk but you cannot completely avoid it. This is like wearing an armor made of unknown material to combat against a known and dangerous enemy.

rna is not the same as DNA so just avoid talking to idiots calling it gene therapy.

as for other things like can the proteins and enzymes cause long term health risks
well now thats like talking to a vegan about how processed meat causes cancer
if your vaccinated with mrna 2 times a week for 10 years then things could happen.. but thats not reality

in short dont talk to hippies about science. instead read the actual science reports.

mrna breaks down quickly in you body once its done its job. it does not hang around for years
RNA and DNA are different things

DNA is for life rna is for days
RNA does not reprogram your DNA

Don't worry we will learn it in a few years. Let the suckers beta test it first. If you want to be a beta tester yourself, go on get vaxxed.

I fully support the use of vaccines, but I worry about possible long-term side effects with the new vaccines. How can anyone say with any confidence there will be no long-term consequences with vaccines that have been developed so rapidly?

In addition to the below, the vaccine is simply a test drug or test injection. The results will be analyzed and recorde over time through methods in the below article.


The New mRNA COVID Vaccines Inject an Operating System into Your Body - Not a Conspiracy Theory,

conspiracy idiots have the same mentality as the republican neo-nazi.
and so by thinking the nazi's could do anything they please that must mean modern science must be evil.

yes insanity and illogic. but thats how their minds work
its as if they cant research real facts. and so spend their evenings watching movies like 'nazi zombies', 'terminator','matrix' and then fantasize how those movies are the real world where some secret movie plot joins the movies scripts together... and thats how they come up with their crap
complete fantasy

i guarantee you antivaxxers spend more time finding fantasy stories to pretend they are denouncing healthcare. rather then spending proper time safety reports about how they do safety checks.
they would rather learn about mutated aliens than spectral analysis
eg tvbcof buzzwording genetic therapy and crossing out vaccine. without understanding that covid vaccines do not modify DNA

i have yet to see a antivax idiot make a comment about the quality assurance processes that vaccine companies do. comparing them. and then finding out what government health institutions then do on receipt of vaccine.
becasue if they did do the research properly/at all, they would learn that the 'fetus cells' are cells from 1970's that are used to test the effectiveness of a vaccine in a sterile lab. and not used as a material ingredient in the end vaccine

heck they dont even look at what vaccine disability compensation schemes exist for worse cases.
they have no desire to look at which vaccines are safest. instead they just want to make them all look bad, because their fantasy life is more entertaining

Besides that by googling "squalene vaccines" it's clear that it has been debunked so many times there is a review from 2010 on pubmed reviewing older studies debunking it, but...

Do you really think that some couple of thousand of evil scientists all around the world are trying to inoculate poisonous shit into people on porpouse? And that the vast mayority of other scientists are partner in crime with them or too dumb to recognize what's happening?

Some people seems prone to belive everything that gives them the perception to have some sort of "exoteric" knowledge about how thing in the world really are. Not unusually they turn to seems pretty stupid from outside, like flat-eartheners, but from inside their group they think they are smartasses and everyone around them is stupid or corrupted or evil.

There's not even a little chance that you anti-vaxxers could be mistaken like them or the reptilian guys? Because I ensure you that for the vast mayority of the medical community, me included, you seems like the flat eartheners of medicine.

Note that Sinovac and Sinopharm are two different companies.  Sinopharm is working on at least two different products.  It's a state owned outfit and China is advanced enough to be doing some gene therapy work (a-la the Sputnik V DNA injection out of Russia) so I could imagine their 2nd effort being something like that.  But information on all this stuff is sparce, and particularly so out of the Chinese work.

At least one of Sinopharm's products is current generation adjuvated inactivated virus as is Sinovac's.  I've been unable to discover WHAT the adjuvant being used in any of the Chinese ones.  Adjuvant variants containing mainly aluminium are the go-to standard, but for years they've been trying other things.  Moderna (mRNA gene therapies still require adjuvation when trying to use them as vaccines) uses squalene which is chemically similar to the oil lubricating one's joints.  This is important because it is common for the immune system to develop excessive activity against whatever is used as an adjuvant, and joint problems are commonly associated with squalene adjuvant experiments and implementations.

Think of the adjuvant as the 'nitrous oxide' of vaccines.  The fool the immune system into going crazy...and often enough it results in chunks in the oil-pan (autoimmune diseases and such.)

Squalene was used in some injections/experiments on troops for Gulf war 1 back in the early 1990's and is implicated in some of the joint related elements of 'gulf war illness'.  As far as I know, they have for a couple of years been giving it to oldsters in the flu vax.  I guess they figure that old people's joints tend to be fucked up already and they won't know the difference.

Back on subject, one of Sinopharm's (supposed) products is what seems popular with the wealthy and well connected.  That might be their 'third vaccine'.  The Saline+[nothing] variant.

In the media, many options for the development of the event after vaccination are published. Some write that no problems arise. Others write that everything is bad. There are even people who die. Personally, I don’t trust the new covid-19 vaccine yet.

The pfrizer vaccine was reported to have side effects which many died already particularly the seniors in UK. Compare to what was reported as well is that Chinese vacinne Sinovac was preferred in the middle-east and most part of Asia. But all these came from TV news channels does has political bets that is why its still not a trusted source.

The CDC has said COVID-19 vaccines can cause side effects for a few days that include fever, chills, headache, swelling or tiredness, “which are normal signs that your body is building protection.” However, severe reactions are extremely rare.

when tash quotes someone else. proves he believes in propaganda. and by blindly repeating it without independent thought and just blindingly saying very true. shows he is controlled by those who write scripts for him

So very true

Now here's a vaccine which as made for 'my type' 

Major Japan CEOs getting under-the-table immunizations with unapproved Chinese vaccine
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20210104/p2a/00m/0na/022000c


No muscle pain as with 'normal' vaccinations?  I'm lik'n it...and apparently so was a particular president and some generals.  Sign me up!

Full list of adverse reactions from China's Sinopharm vaccine. A total of 75 adverse side effects.
https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4098913
Go in healthy come out sic.

Good God but you are an idiot!  AstraZeneca (and Sputnik V and J&J) splice designer DNA into the DNA of an adenovirus then put that into your own cells nucleus.  One of the ones Merck bought uses measles for the purpose.  From there the DNA spins off designer mRNA which get back out of the nucleus into the cytoplasm to instruct the cell to start making spike proteins and God only knows what else.  It's the 'money shot' where mRNA gene therapy (BioNTech, Moderna) go only half way.

Another designer DNA gene therapy that Merck bought might be able to be administered 'orally'.  I wonder what color of sunsets these ones will produce?

There are some interesting ideas including Imperial College's 'self amplifying' RNA and Queensland's 'molecular clamp'.  The latter strikes me as having some real potential to say the truth; it basically holds target proteins in a transient form allowing the immune system to recognize them more readily.  This stuff is genuinely interesting to me scientifically, and probably will result in 'safer' vaccines if it's ever in the interest of TPTB to have them.  Particularly some of the subunit vaccine efforts.

The globalists (Gates, WEF, UN, etc) who are coordinating this whole sham worldwide are going to use the Chinese for muscle once the controlled demolition of the U.S. is complete so they don't need the chinks to be all fucked up.  And when they do, that society is so controlled that they could do it at any time they please.  So, 'China', such as it is, probably threw something together right quick to play along with the scamdemic.  Could be saline for all I know, and since the well connected leaders in the country I'm in smuggled it in for their own selves to use it wouldn't surprise me at all.  Any leader or rich fucker who couldn't figure out the scam on their own will certainly have advisers who can.

People who have not figured out that, via 'globalization', there is only the skeleton of individual nations left even at THIS point in time really don't have the intellectual tool-chest to make decent analytical inferences.  Oh well.

^^^ 5G is dead in the water, after Trump is sworn in on March 4 he will move forward to implement 6G asap. Some differences of 5G/6G


Global roll out of 5G networks should be HALTED until the safety of the technology has been thoroughly tested, expert claims
https://web.archive.org/web/20210119122712/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9160241/Global-rollout-5G-networks-halted-thoroughly-tested-expert-claims.html