Topic: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? - page 83. (Read 20577 times)

Care to explain how can 5G electromagnetics "REPROGRAM" someone. Please care to cite research/studies that backs the "REPROGRAMMING" of people through electromagnetics.

so what tvbcof is basically saying is he hates china but will get one of their vaccines even with all the adjuvents if its the inactivated virus form....
what he means is he is happy to take the british inactivated virus(oxford AZ) vaccine

so. there we have it. drama over

Note that there are a wide variety of tools being discussed here.  The RNA and DNA ones are, generally speaking, gene therapy development efforts which have been re-labeled vaccines.  The so-called 'pandemic' opened the door for massive trials of these re-toolings, and the developers

 - don't have to pay normal rates for trial participants
 - get more trial participants than they know what to do with
 - get outside help (the government) to do the grunt work of data collection
 - get full legal indemnity for anything which doesn't work out

Pretty sweet deal!

The important thing to note is that because the so-called 'vaccines' differ so markedly in their mechanism of action, some are less risky in some ways.  With some effort, one could try to opt for one of their choice.  My priority would be:

 - Do nothing since as a healthy 50 year old I have no reason to worry about 'covid-19' and if I get sick I can stay home.

 - Figure out how to get in with the 'insiders' to get fake injections and fraudulent 'immunity passports'.  Just like the CEO of Pfizer, RNA vaccines are not recommended for 'my type.'

 - Get one of the (mostly) Chinese vaccines which are (mostly) inactivated virus type.  They carry the normal risks of adjuvated vaccines, and some extra ones due to coronavirus not being amenable to immunity through vaccination, but probably far less risk than the others in my opinion.

 - Get a 'subunit' vaccine.  The developments here seem to be mostly that they are fiddling around with new kinds of adjuvants.  Not one's own genetic material.

 - Get one of the other non-GM vaccine technologies such as VLP

 - Get an mRNA one.  I'd choose Pfizer over Moderna since the latter is sqalene adjuvated and I don't want joint problems.

 - The last thing I would get would be one of the DNA 'vaccines' such as AstraZeneca which give every sign of being developed for herd culling.  AstraZeneca seems to be destined for the poor populations in the developing world (India, Philippines, etc) which one could expect of medicines emanating from the old English schools like Oxford or Imperial College (who had a big hand in bringing us the scamdemic in the first place.)

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Right now? I don't trust covid vaccine that's why I want to receive last that kind of cure to make me identify when it all safe in my family and my health.

11.3 per mil severe adverse reaction rate 0.00113%
5.5 per mil died 0.00055%
^based in your post


covid death rate over 1%
meaning vaccine is 2000x safer from risk of death than covid

10mill had vaccine and only 55 deaths you say
well out o 10mill covid cases there is way more than 55 deaths

55 people died after receiving the covid vaccine in the US.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210117113942/https://www.theepochtimes.com/55-people-died-in-us-after-receiving-covid-19-vaccines-reporting-system_3659152.html

For entertainment the three liars song
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/three-liars_Q2c2M4oODzUJWlo.html

I just read this morning that 10 people died after getting the corona vaccine. But no additional information was given about what the cause of death.SSince only people older than 80 years are getting vaccinated at the moment it could be that they died of something else and not the vaccine. We should all remain critical and try to get as much information as possible about the vaccine.

And list is growing

https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/amp/California-calls-for-pause-in-use-of-huge-batch-15878735.php

Prof. Dolores Cahill: Why People Will Start Dying A Few Months After The First Mrna Vaccination
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/01/18/professor-dolores-cahill-why-people-will-start-dying-a-few-months-after-the-first-mrna-vaccination/

COVID-19 vaccine does not contain live virus (no virus is alive, it's not a bacteria)
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9797496936

Severely infected by Covid-19 even after a vaccination (in Dubai)

This is according to Pfizer's spokesperson whose sole responsible exists to protect the company and save them from any liability.

The spokesperson claimed it was the elderly who were terminally ill. We obviously need to wait for a more neural source to give insight as to how/why these people die.

You're right, not everyone should take the vaccine but it's also true that this does nothing for public confidence.

again. public information has been around for ages that certain groups of very frail and also those with certain conditions(allergies, anticuagulation issues, immuno surpressed, etc) should not have the vaccine.

in norway they done 20,000 vaccinations and some of those were already terminally ill.
usually i would have thought of the balance of risk/benefit where someone that only has 6-12 months to live anyway wont be on balance a benefit to be vaccinated. kind of a waste of a dose if i put morals aside..

but it seems norway still offered it and families acceptance to have their frail relative to take it was given.
they obviously dont want to make it sound like the families didnt make good judgement calls so its not presented as such. instead they just mention the frailty of those that died

it must be said that the life expectancy of those 80+ is under 99% per year. meaning more then 1% of those over 80 will die that year

if you average a 700k population per 10year age group(pretty stable up to 69)
its down to 480k by 70-80 and 230k for 80+
meaning that (700-480)220k die in their 70's(31%(3.1% a year)
then in 80+ the (480k-220) 250k die
this means over 52% of that age bracket die in their 80's meaning 5.2% death rate per year
(25k deaths a year in the 80's:-480 per week)

ye they actually mentioned the 'around 400 die a week anyway' part. so thought its worth mentioning in more detail

knowing there is a 5.2% risk of death per year in this age group. or 0.1% (1per 1k) each week
then having 20k vaccinations would see separately 20deaths due to their natural frailty who would have died anyway based on stats.

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before writing this post and doing the maths. i was sceptical about the asscertains too. but i ran the math and used stats of the population demography of norway. and the numbers add up

yep 1in 1k die per week anyways whether vaccinated or not

Meantime German doctors
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/doctors-in-germany-warning-do-not-get-vaccinated_QaXxH1yZmmWe8wt.html

Someone patiently waiting for the vacation.

Actually, Covid only weakens an already weak immune system. If the immune system wasn't weak in the first place, Covid wouldn't have any affect. All the vaccines do are to weaken the immune system some more, but in ways that might make the body less attractive to Covid a little. However, the further weakening from the vaccines make the whole body unable to resist all kinds of other things.

The main point of these novel vaccines is to reprogram people so that they have a difficult time resisting 5G electromagnetics acting to reprogram them further.

By your two's logic, the covid shot (because it 'works') causes cancer because the billions who would have died from the dreaded 'covid' without it eventually die from cancer by the hundreds of millions.

This news has been talked in this thread if you will just scroll below. Though, the increase hasn't been talked yet.

Regarding that, I've known many of my relatives to be shot by Pfizer, and their age is 40-55 yrs, so I don't think that this news death should be feared, as long as you're not aged 75 and above. Though, if you want to try a different vaccine, just because of the news, then you're free to do so. Just that it won't change the fact that you are getting vaccinated, and helps the community to flow back to normal.

Not only norway
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/europe/10-dead-in-germany-within-4-days-of-covid-19-vaccine-inoculation-probe-ordered.html
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/13-people-suffered-face-paralysis-after-corona-vaccine-655542

and more https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56113090

If your underwear can not prevent your fart from spreading, then how can a mask stop your breath from spreading?

Just to change the subject here.

Has anyone read this news lately? - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-16/norway-vaccine-fatalities-among-people-75-and-older-rise-to-29

Guess, not all people can really accept the covid vaccine shot. It depends on your body. Elderly people are vulnerable especially those with already underlying health conditions. Considering that is already Pfizer. So for me, not gonna get this shot for as long as I can. Will wait for more feedbacks about these vaccines.

Thank you for the clarification.

yup, his logic and arguments are those in the same manner as with condom. T
here are people who get pregnant even though their partner does wear condom, but this number is very small compare to the number of people who actually benefitted the use of condom.

If he will argue about this, he'll go like, there are people in America who had been pregnant even though they use a condom, thus the whole thing about condom is a lie, and should not be believed in the first place. ITS A CONSPIRACY THAT CONDOM DENY PREGNANCY

covid is deadly. it causes pneumonia that suffocates you. it causes your immune reponse to trigger in a big battle against the virus so  much so if your body is less than perfect it will put excess strain on your body..

for instance people dying due to gunshot actually die due to shock/loss of blood or brain damage. so although the bullet triggered the chaos of symptoms after, the final symptom of death is never 'bullet' but instead things like heart failure, blood lose, etc.
badecker would denie bullets kill and instead that going to hospital kills because thats where gunshot victims end up before death and his illogic only sees the hospital as the causal link. not the bullet
but if you look at what triggered the symptoms the causal link is the bullet/covid
meaning if they were not shot they would not have died
meaning if they dint get covid they would not have died

same goes for the woman that followed trumps advice to go to capitol hill and enter it. if she didnt go she would not have been shot. thus trump was part of the cause that led to her death by gunshot

Base on my understanding regarding the results and findings of Covid's effect, Covid is never been deadly, yet it weakens the immune system. As the immune system weakens, any kind of disease or virus the patient already has will be strengthened, thus results in deaths or complications. You are very off, if you misunderstood every finding you can see in the surface of the web.

Regarding the vaccine, no science shows that the vaccine is dangerous, though there are maybe complications to people with weakened body, just like any other vaccines may have. There are many different factors that have been not yet studied regarding the vaccine, due to the lack of research time to conduct the studies. Nonetheless, the vaccine had been proven to be effective, yet results may vary.

You should keep in mind that there is no perfect things that can be invented in this world. There are many factors that can affect the effectiveness of medicines/vaccine when it comes to pharmaceutical. That's why they used the term EFFICACY instead of Effectiveness when stating the percentage.

Ah something nice to enjoy the morning coffee with.
Unless I have an accident, it is unlikely a Doctor will ever see me again. They failed to help me in the past and I had to cure myself.
The same with Banks, unlikely I will ever walk into a Bank again. In the last 5 years I had 6 Banks plus numerous prepaid top-up cards. Always on the lookout whats new on offer.
At the moment this one looks promising, https://www.relayx.com/card topping it up straight from the walled from as little as 1 cent and coins can be changed right in the walled.  https://www.relayx.com/

Liars need be chased out of town they can seek refuge in Wuhan.