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legendary
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January 14, 2021, 10:20:14 AM
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Shocking! When you vaccinate all nursing home residents, of whom 400 die every single week, some of them will die within a few days of getting the vaccine! Incredible discovery!

In other news, everyone I saw in the emergency department last week had eaten within 12 hours of presentation. Eating food causes traffic accidents and heart attacks!

Dear lord. Roll Eyes

We are going to vaccinate over a billion people this year. If you are going to post a story about every vaccinated person who then develops any medical condition, then you are even more dense than I thought.
sr. member
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January 14, 2021, 10:08:23 AM

May as well call it the euthanasia program
https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/dlvXGz/har-undersoekt-13-doedsfall-vanlige-bivirkninger-kan-ha-bidratt-til-doedsfall-hos-de-svakeste

Google translate, A total of 23 people have died in the near future after receiving the vaccine.  "not see anything alarming with these figure"
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Has studied 13 deaths: Common side effects may have contributed to deaths in the weakest

Side effects that are harmless to most people may have contributed to some of the deaths among the weakest patients who have received the Pfizer vaccine, according to the Norwegian Medicines Agency.

    Martha C. S. Holmes

Published:
Updated less than 3 hours ago

- We know that these common reactions are quite strong in some - most people get quite mild side effects, but some can get high fever, malaise or nausea. This has been thoroughly discussed between the Norwegian Medicines Agency and NIPH, and NIPH changed its recommendations based on the experience we have, that one should make an assessment of who should be vaccinated, says Steinar Madsen in the Norwegian Medicines Agency to VG.

All deaths that occur close to the time of vaccination are continuously reported and must be assessed. A total of 23 people have died in the near future after receiving the vaccine. 13 of these deaths have been assessed as of now. Among the rest of the 29 adverse reaction reports that have been completed, there are nine serious adverse reactions and seven less serious.
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- We do not see anything alarming with these figures. All deaths are in elderly and frail people with underlying diseases, says Madsen.

The Norwegian Medicines Agency has previously warned that more people will die with - but not necessarily from - the vaccine: Nursing home residents are the first to be given priority in the vaccine queue, and in Norwegian nursing homes where many are seriously ill, an average of around 350 - 400 people die per week.

What has also emerged in what has been reviewed so far is that the common and usually mild side effects may have had a more serious effect on the sickest. This has also been learned from, says Madsen.

- This may have contributed to some of these deaths.

    How many have been vaccinated in my municipality? Check VG's vaccine overview

NIPH changed the recommendation this week

The RNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna both provide a strong immune response - which means that the vaccines are effective, but also that many will experience side effects such as fever, nausea or pain at the injection site.

- If a person who is very frail and has an underlying disease is vaccinated and has a strong reaction with fever, nausea and decreased appetite, it can lead to their underlying disease can have a more serious course. These side effects are completely harmless in most people and go away in a short time, but can be a great burden for very frail people, says Madsen.

FHI updated its vaccination guide on Monday with a clarification of even mild side effects can have serious consequences for the most frail, and that the benefit of vaccine for those with a short remaining life can be marginal. Therefore, an assessment must be made as to whether it is appropriate to give a vaccine to a nursing home resident who is very fragile.

These two vaccines have come to Norway so far:
Examines all deaths

Madsen says the Norwegian Medicines Agency will continue to make a thorough assessment of all deaths that are reported.

- We ask the doctors who report to be careful to include information about the patient's condition, how it developed, and what happened after the vaccination.

He has previously explained that the Medicines authorities in all countries follow similar cases and put it in a system.

- What is considered is whether the vaccine may be the cause of a death, or whether the death has occurred as a coincidence in time. The assessment of each side effect report will determine that, he explained.
legendary
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January 14, 2021, 08:28:10 AM
Again, I didn't say anything about 'seizure'.  I said specifically 'neurological symptom'.
Alright, let me rephrase. Those movements are not in keeping with any recognized neurological disorder. Psychological disorders, maybe.
legendary
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January 14, 2021, 08:15:36 AM
...

Here's a video of an actual tonic clonic seizure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=40&v=Nds2U4CzvC4

Here are a couple of videos of people faking seizures:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=37&v=lhP9qQt9yoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cejn48pbMEk

Compare to the video you linked and tell me what you think.

Again, I didn't say anything about 'seizure'.  I said specifically 'neurological symptom'.  It's becoming increasingly obvious that you are grasping for a diversionary tactic.

If that guy were faking anything it was obviously not a seizure as Joe Public understands such a phenomenon.  Again:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/QGtrkW9s7K0L/

Edit:  One of the reasons I ask around and don't make any judgements here is that the guys is supposed to be a '33' year old doctor.  It is a certainty that there will be a lot of fake reactions put on the media to later be 'debunked'.  This is classic Cass Sunstein social engineering type stuff which the Jacobins are so fond of and so proud of themselves for being so clever.  Anyway, they tend to use certain keys such as '33' or '2800' which they think no stupid goyim have figured out.

legendary
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January 14, 2021, 06:07:41 AM
How much stock I put in such things comes down mainly to whether what they say makes much sense, is there any supporting documentation, and do they have a documentable record of being credible.
Is there any supporting documentation which agrees with your preconceived notions which you will never change despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary. There. Fixed that for you.

Here's a video of an actual tonic clonic seizure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=40&v=Nds2U4CzvC4

Here are a couple of videos of people faking seizures:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=37&v=lhP9qQt9yoc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cejn48pbMEk

Compare to the video you linked and tell me what you think.
legendary
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January 14, 2021, 05:58:45 AM
Still waiting for the Good Doctor to leverage his expertise and tell us if it looks like the other supposed doctor is faking neurological symptoms, or if it looks like a real neurological condition.
This is quite blatantly not a real seizure, which anyone with any real experience of real seizures would be able to tell you in an instant. Even one of your anti-vax friends has pointed that out in the comments beneath the video.

I'm actually somewhat surprised to see you man-up enough to state an opinion.  Now we'll wait to see how the story progresses.

BTW, I very deliberately used the word 'neurological symptom' rather than 'seizure'.

I'm not a doctor (and don't even LARP as one on a bitcoin forum) so I simply don't have the training and experience to make a judgement.  That's why I asked around.  Obviously I don't put much faith in what anonymous wankers say on forums or comments.  I don't ignore them either of course.  How much stock I put in such things comes down mainly to whether what they say makes much sense, is there any supporting documentation, and do they have a documentable record of being credible.  You fail on most of these just FWIW.

legendary
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January 14, 2021, 05:48:02 AM
How do we know if you turn into a potato or something?
Don't be silly! If you turn in to a potato then you are no use to Bill Gates, God of the Lizard people. Think of the microchip more like turning you in to a Borg clone from Star Trek. That's much more accurate. I am part of the collective now.

Still waiting for the Good Doctor to leverage his expertise and tell us if it looks like the other supposed doctor is faking neurological symptoms, or if it looks like a real neurological condition.
This is quite blatantly not a real seizure, which anyone with any real experience of real seizures would be able to tell you in an instant. Even one of your anti-vax friends has pointed that out in the comments beneath the video.
legendary
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January 14, 2021, 05:38:17 AM
I am a doctor, and i got my first shot of mrna vaccine a few days ago. I'm feeling good like now, i will let you know if I turn into a potato or something.


Waiting for his update.. I hope he's okay. How do we know if you turn into a potato or something? Haha kidding aside I hope you are okay. Did you somehow have or had these side effects?

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The most commonly reported side effects, which typically lasted several days, were pain at the injection site, tiredness, headache, muscle pain, chills, joint pain, and fever. - https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine


Still waiting for the Good Doctor to leverage his expertise and tell us if it looks like the other supposed doctor is faking neurological symptoms, or if it looks like a real neurological condition.  Again: https://www.bitchute.com/video/QGtrkW9s7K0L/

While we wait, I'll continue to put out real scientific information on the various gene therapies they are experimenting with on the peeps under the cover of 'covid-19' fraud.  Seems like all of the 'doctors' here on this board have a lot of trouble doing this so I've no ethical choice but to fill in.

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January 14, 2021, 05:25:05 AM
I am a doctor, and i got my first shot of mrna vaccine a few days ago. I'm feeling good like now, i will let you know if I turn into a potato or something.


Waiting for his update.. I hope he's okay. How do we know if you turn into a potato or something? Haha kidding aside I hope you are okay. Did you somehow have or had these side effects?

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The most commonly reported side effects, which typically lasted several days, were pain at the injection site, tiredness, headache, muscle pain, chills, joint pain, and fever. - https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine


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January 14, 2021, 05:19:55 AM
A bit scared. But we need something to make us immune to the virus. I won't let the virus get in me and make me suffer. For me, it is better to risk. But if the mask will still work, then I might delay the vaccination.
legendary
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January 14, 2021, 05:15:18 AM
I am a doctor, and i got my first shot of mrna vaccine a few days ago. I'm feeling good like now, i will let you know if I turn into a potato or something.


As a HAT-member you are obligated to keep us updated at the WO  Tongue Cheesy Kiss
legendary
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January 14, 2021, 03:16:20 AM
So with Johnson & Johnson we have the 4th vaccine being produced now. I do believe think the vaccine is real and will actually help us to get through the crisis. How can multiple independent companies produce vaccines from completely different tissues? Also the pruchase prices for the vaccine is so different, the cheapest cost only $2 and the most expensive one around $40. If these vaccines were fake there wouldn't be so many different companies producing them. The risk of repercussions would be too high.

Jannsen (J&J just supplies the lobbyists) seems to be about the same thing as the AstraZeneca gene therapy platform insofar as it is an adenovirus engineered with some spliced in designer DNA (NOT mRNA).  The DNA payload is probably transported into the nucleus as is the case for AstraZeneca, but they are very very hazy about this in their marketing material.  In fact they bend over backward to not even mention 'DNA'.

Another candidate which I find genuinely promising would be Novavax.  This is a relatively old-school sub-unit vaccine with their secret sauce being a new 'nanoparticle' adjuvant they've been working on.  If the adjuvant can work without inducing autoimmunity or other problems, that's a genuine step forward which could increase the dismal safety profile of a lot of vaccines.  That would be a great thing.  As with most 'anti-vaxxers', I actually don't have anything against vaccines in general.  I just wish them to be safer and used for the stated purpose.

It is deliberately hidden, but all of these 'covid vaccines' are WILDLY different things from one another.  It appears to me that a fairly big part of the covid-19 hoax was to open the doors to the pharmaceutical companies to try out their ideas on the peeps without all of the expense and hassles of doing actual safety trials.  Mostly they are jumping on the chance to experiment with their gene therapy work.

sr. member
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January 14, 2021, 02:57:09 AM
So with Johnson & Johnson we have the 4th vaccine being produced now. I do believe think the vaccine is real and will actually help us to get through the crisis. How can multiple independent companies produce vaccines from completely different tissues? Also the pruchase prices for the vaccine is so different, the cheapest cost only $2 and the most expensive one around $40. If these vaccines were fake there wouldn't be so many different companies producing them. The risk of repercussions would be too high.
I am surprised not more companies produce them. It is about the only thing on the planet you can sell and not get sued no matter how bad you make it. The only option available when things go wrong is to press charges for the person who done the stabbing (pierce the outer protective layer with the needle) unless someone is stupid enough to sign away his life complete and agrees to it with signature.
hero member
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January 14, 2021, 02:48:16 AM
So with Johnson & Johnson we have the 4th vaccine being produced now. I do believe think the vaccine is real and will actually help us to get through the crisis. How can multiple independent companies produce vaccines from completely different tissues? Also the pruchase prices for the vaccine is so different, the cheapest cost only $2 and the most expensive one around $40. If these vaccines were fake there wouldn't be so many different companies producing them. The risk of repercussions would be too high.
legendary
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January 14, 2021, 01:56:45 AM
I am a doctor, and i got my first shot of mrna vaccine a few days ago. I'm feeling good like now, i will let you know if I turn into a potato or something.
I had my second dose earlier this week, and now have a sudden and overwhelming urge to spend every last satoshi and cent I own buying Microsoft products...
Please let us know if you begin to feel snackish when you see other people.

Please let us know if you feel aroused when you see government directed enforcement in distinctive uniforms beating people who don't follow authoritative directives issuing from the bowels of an opaque bureaucratic apparatus.

Oh, never mind.  You effectively have already.

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January 13, 2021, 11:43:54 PM
I am a doctor, and i got my first shot of mrna vaccine a few days ago. I'm feeling good like now, i will let you know if I turn into a potato or something.
I had my second dose earlier this week, and now have a sudden and overwhelming urge to spend every last satoshi and cent I own buying Microsoft products...

Please let us know if you begin to feel snackish when you see other people.
legendary
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January 13, 2021, 10:53:24 PM
Because virus particles and smoke particles are the same...?  Huh

Dear lord, do you even think before you share these moronic videos? (That was a rhetorical question. I know the answer.)

The guy is a real doctor who shows his face and uses his real name (at great risk to his career since he isn't towing Gate's line) and he says that vaping particles are 'the same size or larger' than the aerosolized particles which typically carry viral load.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/PNuvCpBi8f28/

nope sorry
vape/smoke particles are under 50nm

the normal breath droplets from the lungs is over 100nm-10,000nm
sars cov 2 is ~120nm

meaning normal breath can carry 1-80 particles
vape moisture itself cant carry any
but remember when breathing out you also breath out your normal droplets too so dont think exhaling vape constantly is going to solve your mask need fears

so the mask will catch the breath droplets but let smaller things like oxygen and carbon and vape through
meaning it captures the droplets big enough to carry sars-cov-2 without blocking oxygen/carbon transfer

surgical masks filter things over 95nm... thus very effective with sarrs-cov2

also loosely/lazily just pulling it over your face is not the way to do it.
if its too slack at the sides, then you are wearing it too loosely.

ways to solve this vary. but easiest is to tie a knot in the end of the elasticated ear loops to make less of a loop then making it require more stretching to get it around your ear. thus bringing mask closer to face
also placement of how high up the nose and how far under the chin.

that guy took less than 1 second to put a mask on. which shows he didnt put it on properly

legendary
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January 13, 2021, 05:09:31 PM
Because virus particles and smoke particles are the same...?  Huh

Dear lord, do you even think before you share these moronic videos? (That was a rhetorical question. I know the answer.)

The guy is a real doctor who shows his face and uses his real name (at great risk to his career since he isn't towing Gate's line) and he says that vaping particles are 'the same size or larger' than the aerosolized particles which typically carry viral load.  You going to argue with him?  Or are you going to say that mask stop all micron sized particals but they let bigger one's through just fine?

Of course the vid was censored off of Jutube and whoever posted it on a free speech platform seems to have neglected to mention the doctor's name.  It is as follows:  "Dr Ted Noel, an anesthesiologist with 36 years of experience"

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PNuvCpBi8f28/

legendary
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January 13, 2021, 04:56:32 PM
I am a doctor, and i got my first shot of mrna vaccine a few days ago. I'm feeling good like now, i will let you know if I turn into a potato or something.


Hey Doc,  Your expertise needed to say whether this seems real or fake:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/QGtrkW9s7K0L/

The title claims it is yet another result of the 'V-tailed Doctor Killer' (aka, Beechcraft Bonanza) of the injection world.

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January 13, 2021, 04:56:13 PM
The funny thing is the same doctor called my kids pediatrician and said his kids won't be taking the vaccine either.  I'm not saying I believe either way, but I'm not one that's just going to throw caution to wind.  Our scientific research and ability to identify problems didn't all of a sudden drop from 3-5 years, or whatever it is, to oh boy now we can make sure something is safe in six months.  Use common sense.
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