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January 09, 2021, 01:11:00 AM
In my opinion No I don't trust the vaccine..I have heard negative things about it..not sure if it's true or false...
legendary
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January 06, 2021, 08:26:35 PM
you have played this game before
one minute you say microscopes then you deny microscopes
i already showed you that exosomes are different shapes and sizes compared to covid virus
the science has identified the different layers right down to the nucleus that shows the difference

i know you future gameplan of saying about courts. and when the court verdict is in you will proclaim thats the court is obsolete for some stupid reason

you keep stupidly finding the most stupid excuses to ignore the science. then a week later ask for the science all over again

you are just circling and circling stupid things over again making yourself pointless


Thanky, franky1. Depending on the topic of the moment, microscopes should be denied at times and accepted at others. So I am right on with this acceptance and denial, right?

Exosomes being different shapes and sizes than viruses is nothing. VIRUSES are different shapes and sizes than viruses. And exosomes are different shapes and sizes than exosomes. But some exosomes are the same shapes and sizes of some viruses. So, wake up!

Game-plan about courts? What are you even yammering about?

no exosomes are a specific form.
the umbrella category them is extracellular vesicle
where there are exosomes (50-100nm) ectosomes(100nm-500nm) endosomes(500nm-1000nm)

viruses are a umbrella category
there is sars cov (~100nm) sars cov2(~120nm) ebola(~1000nm)

the sars cov 2 enters via attaching to the ace2 receptor
the exosome containing waste rna enter via attached to the cd receptors

the virus causes replication of new viruses and occasionally chucks off waste rna.
the exosome causes cell damage if it contains waste rna
exosomes with waste rna dont create mature viruses in the new cell

the sars cov2 virus has many ace2 sensitive spikes all around like a crown
the exosomes have a couple CD sensitive receptors. like a tail and a couple arms
legendary
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January 06, 2021, 07:19:26 PM
you have played this game before
one minute you say microscopes then you deny microscopes
i already showed you that exosomes are different shapes and sizes compared to covid virus
the science has identified the different layers right down to the nucleus that shows the difference

i know you future gameplan of saying about courts. and when the court verdict is in you will proclaim thats the court is obsolete for some stupid reason

you keep stupidly finding the most stupid excuses to ignore the science. then a week later ask for the science all over again

you are just circling and circling stupid things over again making yourself pointless


Thanky, franky1. Depending on the topic of the moment, microscopes should be denied at times and accepted at others. So I am right on with this acceptance and denial, right?

Exosomes being different shapes and sizes than viruses is nothing. VIRUSES are different shapes and sizes than viruses. And exosomes are different shapes and sizes than exosomes. But some exosomes are the same shapes and sizes of some viruses. So, wake up!

Game-plan about courts? What are you even yammering about?

Cool
legendary
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January 06, 2021, 05:56:00 PM
you have played this game before
one minute you say microscopes then you deny microscopes
i already showed you that exosomes are different shapes and sizes compared to covid virus
the science has identified the different layers right down to the nucleus that shows the difference

i know you future gameplan of saying about courts. and when the court verdict is in you will proclaim thats the court is obsolete for some stupid reason

you keep stupidly finding the most stupid excuses to ignore the science. then a week later ask for the science all over again

you are just circling and circling stupid things over again making yourself pointless
legendary
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January 06, 2021, 01:25:11 PM
You know how it goes. Medical people see these specks in electron microscopes. The specks are "dead," so anybody can make up all kinds of stories about what they are and how they work without ever seeing them do anything.

This is the last chance the medical has to make some money off viruses. The Microsphere Nanoscopes are watching living viruses in ways EMs never could. Turns out that viruses are really exosomes that have been ejected from the cells with the idea of cells warning other cells about bad nutrition.

A few years down the road, once MN information comes completely out into the open, the medical will call the vaccine companies of today some of the most retarded medical operations of the primitive past.

Of course, by then, the medical will have new lies to disrupt the people with in their attempts to make more money.

Cool

firstly. though its true if a bunch of cells has no heart or brain its defined as dead. but that means exosomes are dead too.. as are embyros/zygotes

secondly an exosome and a virus are totally different things. shape/size/function/effect of the body.

the bitcoin client software is not the same as a PS5 spiderman game. yes they both contain code. but that is all that is similar.

an exosome is is different. the mechanisms and function are different.
when a virus infects a cell. the replication effect to make new viruses are separate. yes some viral rna can then be trapped in the exosome path which can lead to those exosomes transporting patches of rna to another cell and make that target cell malfunction and trigger cell death.
but the separetly is replicating viruses
..
here is a nice little picture for you


the left square is the initial cell being infected by a virus
the image shows the virus entering at the top(1&2)
the virus gets stripped/broken up at 3 (it becomes the wiggly line)
the main lengthy wiggle goes down(4.5.6) and becomes another virus
small sections of waste rna(small wiggle) goes to the right and gets locked into exosomes

viruses excrete at the bottom and exosomes excrete on the right.
.
a virus if attacking another cell will cause viral replication
an exosome containing waste rna will cause the next cell to malfunction and thus trigger cell death
..
the interesting part is. for a virus to survive longer in community and be more spreadable has to be a virus that doesnt have as much of the waste rna exosome path. thus less neighbouring cell death. thus allowing the main virus to infect that neighbouring cell instead ..to multiply more

Viruses are simply rogue exosomes at times. As there are millions of viruses, there are millions of exosomes that they came from. Since only about 5,000 viruses have been identified and catalogued since the electron microscope was invented in the 1930s, there hasn't been enough time to identify all the exosomes that match these viruses out of the millions that exist.

That cute little picture is based on some ideas that some researchers have. It isn't based on anything that they would get up in court and state under oath that this is exactly what is happening. They would always use the disclaimer that said that it was based on the knowledge that we have today, and that reality could easily prove to be entirely different.

Cool
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January 06, 2021, 11:05:25 AM
Yes i trust world rulers need us to be in good health to serve them nice and healthy !!

Queen care about us so i trust

I am with you on this one. Politicians prefer to be in happy times where the economy is strong and they can spend money. Now with the crisis and the corona pandemic it's harder for politicians to waste money on useless projects

Oh, I think I would keep this idea in my mind, aside from the vaccine decision-making, but from any significant decision my country's government would take. I think this would set my mind at ease, and let me focus on my studies, researches, and work. Good good
legendary
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January 06, 2021, 07:39:11 AM
You know how it goes. Medical people see these specks in electron microscopes. The specks are "dead," so anybody can make up all kinds of stories about what they are and how they work without ever seeing them do anything.

This is the last chance the medical has to make some money off viruses. The Microsphere Nanoscopes are watching living viruses in ways EMs never could. Turns out that viruses are really exosomes that have been ejected from the cells with the idea of cells warning other cells about bad nutrition.

A few years down the road, once MN information comes completely out into the open, the medical will call the vaccine companies of today some of the most retarded medical operations of the primitive past.

Of course, by then, the medical will have new lies to disrupt the people with in their attempts to make more money.

Cool

firstly. though its true if a bunch of cells has no heart or brain its defined as dead. but that means exosomes are dead too.. as are embyros/zygotes

secondly an exosome and a virus are totally different things. shape/size/function/effect of the body.

the bitcoin client software is not the same as a PS5 spiderman game. yes they both contain code. but that is all that is similar.

an exosome is is different. the mechanisms and function are different.
when a virus infects a cell. the replication effect to make new viruses are separate. yes some viral rna can then be trapped in the exosome path which can lead to those exosomes transporting patches of rna to another cell and make that target cell malfunction and trigger cell death.
but the separetly is replicating viruses
..
here is a nice little picture for you


the left square is the initial cell being infected by a virus
the image shows the virus entering at the top(1&2)
the virus gets stripped/broken up at 3 (it becomes the wiggly line)
the main lengthy wiggle goes down(4.5.6) and becomes another virus
small sections of waste rna(small wiggle) goes to the right and gets locked into exosomes

viruses excrete at the bottom and exosomes excrete on the right.
.
a virus if attacking another cell will cause viral replication
an exosome containing waste rna will cause the next cell to malfunction and thus trigger cell death
..
the interesting part is. for a virus to survive longer in community and be more spreadable has to be a virus that doesnt have as much of the waste rna exosome path. thus less neighbouring cell death. thus allowing the main virus to infect that neighbouring cell instead ..to multiply more
hero member
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January 06, 2021, 06:03:52 AM
Yes i trust world rulers need us to be in good health to serve them nice and healthy !!

Queen care about us so i trust

I am with you on this one. Politicians prefer to be in happy times where the economy is strong and they can spend money. Now with the crisis and the corona pandemic it's harder for politicians to waste money on useless projects
legendary
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January 05, 2021, 11:45:39 PM
~snip~

No, there is no misconception. I have chosen to trust people who have dedicated their entire lives to scientific work in the field of virology and immunology and are rightly called experts. That's all.

https://metafact.io/factchecks/1716-are-the-covid-19-vaccines-safe

If my car breaks down, I'm not going to take it to the vet to get it fixed, but to the authorized service center. Why? Because I know they are experts in this field.


Somebody like PhD virologistDr. Wolfgang Wodarg  https://vimeo.com/495500045
or
Microbiologist Dr Sucharit Bhaki https://www.bitchute.com/video/Pc7CFRjVpRHI/

Dr. Fuellmich  https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/291925-2020-10-05-dr-reiner-fuellmich-crimes-against-humanity.htm

 Dr. Carrie Madej https://www.bitchute.com/video/kQ73s2S0rYJJ/

how about dr. kary mullis the inventor of the PCR test does he qualify? https://www.karymullis.com/pcr.shtml
Creator of the PCR test and peace prize winner Dr.Kary Mullis https://twitter.com/i/status/1343096581629878272


or maybe some reading https://principia-scientific.com/covid19-evidence-of-global-fraud/

Quote
This is so typical of today’s scientific method –

“This supposed virus had just a 57% sequence match to allegedly known coronavirus. The other 43% was just “there.” Sequenced data was produced and recorded as a new genome as GenBank Accession No. AY274119.

The Wuhan researchers subsequently found an 79.6% sequence match to AY274119 and therefore called it a novel strain of SARS-CoV (2019-nCoV – eventually renamed SARS-CoV-2). No one, at any stage of this process, had produced any isolated, purified sample of any virus. All they had were percentage sequence matches to other percentage sequence matches.”

Way to go, medical science, a simulation built on a simulation, for that’s all you can call any attempt to piece together a sequence from parts.

And I will again say, that the deaths attributed to covid are basically treating for something that is assumed to be present – covid – rather than the underlying co-morbidity that the patient may actually have gone to the hospital with. In other words, wrongful deaths, no different than any other form of wrongful death that gets prosecuted or is subject to civil litigation. The only question becomes who should these cases of wrongful death litigation be filed against? There are so many layers of wrongdoing here!
- https://principia-scientific.com/covid19-evidence-of-global-fraud/

Yeah, it is even debunked in the comment section, you can even see the thread in the section about it.

Even the site you mentioned have been debunked already  Wink.

Try the readings of studies made by different countries regarding the virus, it may help you understand it a little more Smiley

You know how it goes. Medical people see these specks in electron microscopes. The specks are "dead," so anybody can make up all kinds of stories about what they are and how they work without ever seeing them do anything.

This is the last chance the medical has to make some money off viruses. The Microsphere Nanoscopes are watching living viruses in ways EMs never could. Turns out that viruses are really exosomes that have been ejected from the cells with the idea of cells warning other cells about bad nutrition.

A few years down the road, once MN information comes completely out into the open, the medical will call the vaccine companies of today some of the most retarded medical operations of the primitive past.

Of course, by then, the medical will have new lies to disrupt the people with in their attempts to make more money.

Cool
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January 05, 2021, 09:16:39 PM
~snip~

No, there is no misconception. I have chosen to trust people who have dedicated their entire lives to scientific work in the field of virology and immunology and are rightly called experts. That's all.

https://metafact.io/factchecks/1716-are-the-covid-19-vaccines-safe

If my car breaks down, I'm not going to take it to the vet to get it fixed, but to the authorized service center. Why? Because I know they are experts in this field.


Somebody like PhD virologistDr. Wolfgang Wodarg  https://vimeo.com/495500045
or
Microbiologist Dr Sucharit Bhaki https://www.bitchute.com/video/Pc7CFRjVpRHI/

Dr. Fuellmich  https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/291925-2020-10-05-dr-reiner-fuellmich-crimes-against-humanity.htm

 Dr. Carrie Madej https://www.bitchute.com/video/kQ73s2S0rYJJ/

how about dr. kary mullis the inventor of the PCR test does he qualify? https://www.karymullis.com/pcr.shtml
Creator of the PCR test and peace prize winner Dr.Kary Mullis https://twitter.com/i/status/1343096581629878272


or maybe some reading https://principia-scientific.com/covid19-evidence-of-global-fraud/

Quote
This is so typical of today’s scientific method –

“This supposed virus had just a 57% sequence match to allegedly known coronavirus. The other 43% was just “there.” Sequenced data was produced and recorded as a new genome as GenBank Accession No. AY274119.

The Wuhan researchers subsequently found an 79.6% sequence match to AY274119 and therefore called it a novel strain of SARS-CoV (2019-nCoV – eventually renamed SARS-CoV-2). No one, at any stage of this process, had produced any isolated, purified sample of any virus. All they had were percentage sequence matches to other percentage sequence matches.”

Way to go, medical science, a simulation built on a simulation, for that’s all you can call any attempt to piece together a sequence from parts.

And I will again say, that the deaths attributed to covid are basically treating for something that is assumed to be present – covid – rather than the underlying co-morbidity that the patient may actually have gone to the hospital with. In other words, wrongful deaths, no different than any other form of wrongful death that gets prosecuted or is subject to civil litigation. The only question becomes who should these cases of wrongful death litigation be filed against? There are so many layers of wrongdoing here!
- https://principia-scientific.com/covid19-evidence-of-global-fraud/

Yeah, it is even debunked in the comment section, you can even see the thread in the section about it.

Even the site you mentioned have been debunked already  Wink.

Try the readings of studies made by different countries regarding the virus, it may help you understand it a little more Smiley
legendary
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January 05, 2021, 08:11:14 PM
The covid vaccine is NOT meant to immunise you, it's meant to euthanize you.

ok lets just see the deathrate of covid. vs deathrate of vaccines
i guarantee you the vaccine has much much much less deaths associated with the vaccine. and also saves lives by reducing the deathrate of covid

later we will see results of the antivaxx group getting covid and dying in more numbers than those who took the vaccine.

what you will learn is the antivaxx cult want people to die 'naturally' at under 50yo by never having medicines. but while profiting from supplement advertising for those following their cult. rather than people dying at 80+ average due to medicines allowing them to live an extra 30+ year average
legendary
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January 05, 2021, 05:46:22 PM
Wait wait wait it gets better
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/doctor-on-cnn-dont-be-alarmed-if-elderly-die-after-receiving-covid-vaccine
Would it be easier to call it straight up Euthanasia

You can pretty much bet your bottom dollar that people like fake-doctor Oileo and his retarded butt-boy franky1-n-beans will not be at all alarmed.  They'll be delighted.  They obviously understand that the technocratic revolution is all about managing the herd for efficiency, and people who are old are never going to be productive.  They will never add value approaching what they are draining from the system so there is less to put into the pockets of their leaders (Gates, Fausti, Pfizer's board members, etc.)

BTW, people might as well understand the acronym for Stevens-Johnson's syndrome 'SJS' (or 'Social Justice Syndrome' perhaps?)  Looks like it will be more common.  It's the kind of thing one would expect if you:

 - reprogram cells to express viral particles as a function of their metabolism.

 - train the immune system to attack the particles and anything which expresses them.

In a lot of cases the self-battle will occur in healthy individuals at kind of a steady state with minimal effect which can easily be blamed on something else (which happens to be treatable with expensive pharma products.)  But when the real common-cold comes around in a year or two and the immune system kicks it up a notch and gets the upper hand in the struggle, the results will be devastating.  SJS is extra alarming because it occurs against skin tissue where it can be seen.  Most such autoimmune reactions will occur in other tissues where they won't be quite as visually apparent, but will be equally devastating to internal tissues and systems.

Here's a little eye-candy to help fake-doctor Oileo and franky1-n-beans get their rocks off:

...snipped...censors here didn't like it I guess.  Image 'stevens johnsons syndrome' for yourself...or just wait to see what it looks like first hand if you are stupid enough to become a GMO and/or cannot help your loved ones before they make that mistake.

legendary
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January 05, 2021, 05:09:39 PM
Unfortunately it is casting pearls before swine since doctors need board certificates to do much and only a small number of people can make it through med school with any residual understanding of 'science' in tact.  Those that do are effectively required to NOT heal people of certain ailments which the controllers have decided need to exist within certain populations at certain rates.

ok im gonna call it. .. tvbcof. the weed your smoking has too high thc content.
its making you fantasise about things and then get paranoid about it.

try to down dose and try something with less thc

you do realise that with 200 countries. the ability to mastermind some cultish deathnote plot of all doctors of all types around the world is impossible.

yes there are some bad 'doctors' that open up their own clinics as pillmills to just prescribe random crap for profit.
yes there are some bad 'doctors' that after training. then slowly slip into following medical insurers policies of only treating people to medical insurance protocols.

but if you think there is some international deathnote plot happening.. you really need to stop smoking that weed

here is the real crux of the facts your missing.
average lifespan of people that have western medicine is better than countries that dont..
average lifespan of people with modern medicine is better than the witchcraft crap of hundreds of years ago

meaning modern western medicine helps people

africa for instance that still believes in their 'home remedies' only has a lifespan of <50
UK/US for instance that uses modern western medicine has a lifespan >80

but hey if you want to move to african countries and live the rest of your shortened life on home remedies. well you can.

just remember this though. when you die at ~50 due to no treatment for things normal 50yo suffer from. this does not mean you have survived the ailments people over 50 would get. it means your dead. and thus just avoided the positives and negatives of getting old
sr. member
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January 05, 2021, 11:46:47 AM
Those who do not believe in the Western medicine are the same as those who say the Earth is flat. Interestingly, those individuals are the first to see a doctor when there are even the slightest signs of the disease.


Not that simple.

I bet these kids are happy as fuck for believing in the Western med as well?

What you are saying is a common misconception.

Also, lots of people are against the Chinese corona vax too. Isn't it a "Eastern medication"?

Being cautious about something doesn't make you a flat earther automatically. I know it because I am not a flat earther.

No, there is no misconception. I have chosen to trust people who have dedicated their entire lives to scientific work in the field of virology and immunology and are rightly called experts. That's all.

https://metafact.io/factchecks/1716-are-the-covid-19-vaccines-safe

If my car breaks down, I'm not going to take it to the vet to get it fixed, but to the authorized service center. Why? Because I know they are experts in this field.


Somebody like PhD virologistDr. Wolfgang Wodarg  https://vimeo.com/495500045
or
Microbiologist Dr Sucharit Bhaki https://www.bitchute.com/video/Pc7CFRjVpRHI/

Dr. Fuellmich  https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/291925-2020-10-05-dr-reiner-fuellmich-crimes-against-humanity.htm

 Dr. Carrie Madej https://www.bitchute.com/video/kQ73s2S0rYJJ/

how about dr. kary mullis the inventor of the PCR test does he qualify? https://www.karymullis.com/pcr.shtml
Creator of the PCR test and peace prize winner Dr.Kary Mullis https://twitter.com/i/status/1343096581629878272

or maybe some reading https://principia-scientific.com/covid19-evidence-of-global-fraud/
legendary
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January 05, 2021, 11:45:34 AM
Those who do not believe in the Western medicine are the same as those who say the Earth is flat. Interestingly, those individuals are the first to see a doctor when there are even the slightest signs of the disease.


Not that simple.

I bet these kids are happy as fuck for believing in the Western med as well?

What you are saying is a common misconception.

Also, lots of people are against the Chinese corona vax too. Isn't it a "Eastern medication"?

Being cautious about something doesn't make you a flat earther automatically. I know it because I am not a flat earther.

No, there is no misconception. I have chosen to trust people who have dedicated their entire lives to scientific work in the field of virology and immunology and are rightly called experts. That's all.

https://metafact.io/factchecks/1716-are-the-covid-19-vaccines-safe

If my car breaks down, I'm not going to take it to the vet to get it fixed, but to the authorized service center. Why? Because I know they are experts in this field.


That doesn't make sense.

What about the doctors that advise you to be cautious? Do you think  their licenses should be taken away? Because according to the government, they are also experts on the subject.
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January 05, 2021, 11:37:13 AM
Those who do not believe in the Western medicine are the same as those who say the Earth is flat. Interestingly, those individuals are the first to see a doctor when there are even the slightest signs of the disease.


Not that simple.

I bet these kids are happy as fuck for believing in the Western med as well?

What you are saying is a common misconception.

Also, lots of people are against the Chinese corona vax too. Isn't it a "Eastern medication"?

Being cautious about something doesn't make you a flat earther automatically. I know it because I am not a flat earther.

No, there is no misconception. I have chosen to trust people who have dedicated their entire lives to scientific work in the field of virology and immunology and are rightly called experts. That's all.

https://metafact.io/factchecks/1716-are-the-covid-19-vaccines-safe

If my car breaks down, I'm not going to take it to the vet to get it fixed, but to the authorized service center. Why? Because I know they are experts in this field.
jr. member
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January 05, 2021, 10:50:44 AM
Yes i trust world rulers need us to be in good health to serve them nice and healthy !!

Queen care about us so i trust
legendary
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January 05, 2021, 10:44:45 AM

Not that simple.

I bet these kids are happy as fuck for believing in the Western med as well?

What you are saying is a common misconception.

I have a great deal of admiration for the medical technology which is available to doctors via 'Western' medicine.

Unfortunately it is casting pearls before swine since doctors need board certificates to do much and only a small number of people can make it through med school with any residual understanding of 'science' in tact.  Those that do are effectively required to NOT heal people of certain ailments which the controllers have decided need to exist within certain populations at certain rates.

Thus, if you have something which has all the signs of being a protozoal infection in a certain English speaking SE Asian country you can search high and low for a doctor to write a prescription for a simple blood test which could rule it out.  If they have to the doctor will play stupid and pretend to not know what a protozoan even is.

In the U.S. (at least) Lyme disease was this way for many years, but I hear that it is getting better now.

Also, lots of people are against the Chinese corona vax too. Isn't it a "Eastern medication"?

Sinopharm is the one vaccine I am aware of which is NOT a 'new-fangled' genetically modifying treatement which they wanted to try out but didn't want to do it the right way.  Although all coronavirus vaccines attempted in the last 20 years have been dismal failures to the phenomenon of pathogenic priming (see RSV, Denvaxia) I would still much rather take my chances with that.

So too would the president of a certain English speaking SE Asian country and some of the top generals it would seem.

Being cautious about something doesn't make you a flat earther automatically. I know it because I am not a flat earther.

Flat-earth is a crutch specifically developed for losers who cannot logically argue a point because they are ignorant fucktards.

sr. member
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January 05, 2021, 10:33:01 AM
If someone wants the "mark of the beast" so be it, but

The covid vaccine is NOT meant to immunise you, it's meant to euthanize you.
legendary
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January 05, 2021, 10:27:19 AM
Those who do not believe in the Western medicine are the same as those who say the Earth is flat. Interestingly, those individuals are the first to see a doctor when there are even the slightest signs of the disease.


Not that simple.

I bet these kids are happy as fuck for believing in the Western med as well?

What you are saying is a common misconception.

Also, lots of people are against the Chinese corona vax too. Isn't it a "Eastern medication"?

Being cautious about something doesn't make you a flat earther automatically. I know it because I am not a flat earther.
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