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Topic: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? - page 93. (Read 20577 times)

legendary
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January 05, 2021, 10:24:29 AM
It's almost funny (if it wasn't so tragic) how tvbcof reads the name of a condition he has never heard about on some conspiracy site, Googles it, reads the first paragraph of the first result, then comes to this thread spewing utter drivel using words he doesn't even understand about how VaCcInEs ArE bAd.

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Just to set the record straight, the first time I heard of 'Stevens-Johnson's Syndrome' was a supposed social media post authored by a person calling themselves Dr-Cynthia Foster.

The video link posted above may be a bunch of fakery, but it would represent a fair amount of work and my guess is that it's probably legit.  The person could be a fake doctor, but unlike you, they used a real name so there is some degree of ability to validate that she exists and holds a Doctorate in something at least.  I've not done this which is why I'm putting limited stock in her story.

After researching SJS a little bit I immediately recognized it as very much the kinds of (not even side-)effect that I would expect from the genetic manipulation technology they are using.  Again, if they call it a vaccine Big Pharma can get legal indemnity more easily, but it doesn't seem to have much to do with vaccination.  In subsequent research I am seeing more and more about an association between the GMO treatment and SJS including more in the social media comments.

Another interesting (and entirely expected) thing I picked up was that before getting the GMO treatment the targets had to sign a legal document saying that they would keep quite about any side effects that they might have.  Some people seem to have read and understood this fine print and some people seem to have not.  For the latter we can anticipate that in addition to fighting hideous medical problems caused by entering into the world of trans-humanism, they are also likely to be having some legal bills brought on by not keeping their mouths shut.
legendary
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January 05, 2021, 10:21:11 AM
Those who do not believe in the Western medicine are the same as those who say the Earth is flat. Interestingly, those individuals are the first to see a doctor when there are even the slightest signs of the disease.

those that come on the internet pretending they are against western medicine, secretly think they are now part of some special cult. that if something went wrong their cult leader will come to their rescue.

EG the certain idiots on this forum that are trump supporters. denying the virus is real but keep hinting if they get sick they will receive the same medical treatment trump got.

they have one hell of a wake up moment when they realise their kiss-ass methods wont and hasnt won them any favours.
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January 05, 2021, 10:18:14 AM
Those who do not believe in the Western medicine are the same as those who say the Earth is flat. Interestingly, those individuals are the first to see a doctor when there are even the slightest signs of the disease.
legendary
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January 05, 2021, 07:58:48 AM
It's almost funny (if it wasn't so tragic) how tvbcof reads the name of a condition he has never heard about on some conspiracy site, Googles it, reads the first paragraph of the first result, then comes to this thread spewing utter drivel using words he doesn't even understand about how VaCcInEs ArE bAd.

Yes, Stevens-Johnson syndrome exists, and it can be caused by medications - everything from acetaminophen to Advil to penicillin, and in very rare cases, as a reaction to a vaccine. It can also be caused by viral infections, and the cases caused by viral infections vastly outnumber the cases caused by the vaccines that prevent them. It would be like saying we should remove airbags from every vehicle in the world because one malfunctioned once and caused a head injury in a child, ignoring the tens of thousands of lives they save every year.

Why don't you go Google "extravasation injury" (images will be NSFW) and use that as justification as why no one in the world should receive any medical treatment, for any condition, ever. Roll Eyes
legendary
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January 05, 2021, 07:03:02 AM
Also, they had a nice little 3-minute goodie showing one of Gate's WHO demon-creatures lying out of her ass in a for-useless-eater promo about vaccines.  That didn't appear on their main site at all as best I can see.  https://www.bitchute.com/video/cBy9sKYHJfUo/

which part were lies?


When you have self-contradictions like she said, it makes them all lies when coming from her. It's different when it is some silly forum people just hashing things over, but when it is someone who is relied on for the health of the world, the lies are crimes against humanity.

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legendary
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January 05, 2021, 05:18:03 AM
You should probably remove those images and post the links instead  inside NSFW tags. They are pretty disturbing.

Thx.  Gave it the old college try.  But it's good 'predictive programming' for people who will see their loved ones with SJS.  Should dampen the shock, or so the theory goes.

It also helps explain why the (not a) vaccine rejection rate among 'medical professionals' is so high.

legendary
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January 05, 2021, 05:00:49 AM
You should probably remove those images and post the links instead  inside NSFW tags. They are pretty disturbing.
sr. member
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January 05, 2021, 02:38:36 AM
Wait wait wait it gets better
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/doctor-on-cnn-dont-be-alarmed-if-elderly-die-after-receiving-covid-vaccine
Would it be easier to call it straight up Euthanasia
legendary
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January 04, 2021, 07:24:01 PM
^^^ You don't really need to apologize like that. Lol Cheesy

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legendary
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January 04, 2021, 07:09:33 PM
becasue the stuff you say has no merit or valid point. so i quickly address the crucial issue of your point to debunk it then i go into the deeper detail surrounding the point that really shows how lame the point is.

such as tvbcof saying vaers only 1% report. i explain the math. i also explain while tvbcof shows 172 pages. those are not 20 patients per page but more like 2. and of the reports alot of them are snowflake whining stuff.

i also address tvbcofs other posts to summarise it all. like how he thinks that (although its been made clear that people will suffer some mild symptoms and thats been made clear all along). he pretends that vaccines have been promoted as 0 symptom just so that he can run a narrative that he found some symptoms.
so i just highlight some of the publicly known symptoms that are widely known to stop his narrative path before he rabbit holes it

then i go and double down and mention what i would deem as true unwanted adverse reactions. just incase. because these too are public knowledge and never been hidden. just so tvbcof cant twist his narative further.

anyway. US has had 4.2m+ that had the vaccine and unless there is say 2% (or your belief of 0.2% covid deaths) death rate in 4 weeks from infection/vaccination. as a comparison.. then the vaccine is better then the virus

so more than 8.2k deaths due to vaccine will make the vaccine worse then the virus.. lets just see
legendary
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January 04, 2021, 06:48:37 PM
^^^ It's kinda amazing the way franky1 writes. He sounds so interesting, until you find out that the things you thought of when you read his stuff, weren't the things that he was talking about at all!

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legendary
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January 04, 2021, 03:17:07 PM
you were the one saying she didnt go back to work and instead died.
and yet she wrote she went back to work. so its you thats confused.
also again to sort out your confusion she cant write a facebook post while dead. so the ability to write a facebook post shows she was alive

anyway moving on
Here is the dropbox link from their vid to get the PDF of the more full scrape:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k887ub7q8ap3u5h/The-Vaccine-Adverse-Event-Reporting-System-VAERS-Results-Form.pdf?dl=0

VAERS normally gets about 1% of total adverse events by the way.

just reading the first few pages and theres about 1-2 patients per page. so on that record. thats 246 patients.
looking at some of the complaints. its laughable.

but hey if tvbcof does want to exaggerate that vaers only notes 1% of adverse reactions. then ill play his game of 24600 adverse reactions out of more then 4.2mill
so thats still less than 1% reaction rate. even at tvbcofs miscalculation of reporting rate

if tvbcof exaggerated further and said only 0.5% are reported then that would still only be a 1% reaction rate.

but if you read the reactions people had you can still dismiss alot as just crybaby syndrome(snowflake whiners)

so heres some news folks
a vaccine involves a needle so yes expect some arm tenderness pain. doesnt matter what your injected with. needles can still hurt.
a vaccine triggers your immune response so expect immune response. fever/sweats/chills/fatigue. this is normal its showing your body is doing something. as is a mild rash on arm

true adverse effects no one wants but should be looked at are:
anything that lasts more than 3 days
anything that causes breathing or heartrate changes.
dizzyness/feeling weak
headaches(as painful as migraines)
fainting/seizures

this is not new stuff. this is stuff that occurs with may things. the key is that if these persist for 3 days then treat it as an unexpected factor.
the main factor of the adverse reactions are people hypsensitive to allergens

but even with all this advice that has always been public and noted since the beginning. the amount of people suffering from these things is like <1%
legendary
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January 04, 2021, 03:09:29 PM
By 'back to work' frank1-n-beans means that she is in the morgue down below where she used to work.  At least by the sounds of things from the woman who claims to actually know her situation first hand.

she wrote a facebook post after death, first hand. wow thats a new skill
.. or she is alive and well and back at work

You seem a little confused, but that's not unusual.

legendary
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January 04, 2021, 03:03:21 PM
By 'back to work' frank1-n-beans means that she is in the morgue down below where she used to work.  At least by the sounds of things from the woman who claims to actually know her situation first hand.

she wrote a facebook post after death, first hand. wow thats a new skill
.. or she is alive and well and back at work
sr. member
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January 04, 2021, 02:59:49 PM
Just looking at some deleted social media posts.  Some user who claims to be a doctor (more credibly than are friend Oileo) says that a friend's daughter who's a PA in New York got 'Stevens-Johnson's syndrome' right after the shot:

HO-Lee Fuckin' sheeiT:

  https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt&q=stevens+johnson%27s+syndrome&iax=images&ia=images

Give me Bells Palsy any day!  Looks similar to Transverse Myelitis except for the skin.  Quite honestly it is about what I would expect for some of the autoimmune issues which seem almost guaranteed by this particular technology.

Edit:  Here's the vid.   People can decide for themselves how credible it seems:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ub77uE6FA6dG/

Another vid from the same channel is a semi-scrape of data from VAERS.  172 pages of events reported already.  https://www.bitchute.com/video/lHpXeUQIt8XQ/

Here is the dropbox link from their vid to get the PDF of the more full scrape:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k887ub7q8ap3u5h/The-Vaccine-Adverse-Event-Reporting-System-VAERS-Results-Form.pdf?dl=0

VAERS normally gets about 1% of total adverse events by the way.



What can be expected from something slapped together in 10 months when every other took years to make. Every shot of steet heroin is cleaner. Maybe some people deseve it, let them have it.
they come and come
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9111311/Portuguese-health-worker-41-dies-two-days-getting-Pfizer-covid-vaccine.html#click=https://t.co/1jHWsnxrvb

The fraud Dr. Ugur Sahin who made one of them
https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly92aWRlby1hcGkud3NqLmNvbS9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcy93c2ovdGhlLWpvdXJuYWw/episode/NDdmNjdiZDQtY2I2OS0xMWVhLTgzYjAtNWZhMWVkZjY1NDdj?hl=en&ved=2ahUKEwjuoKLtj63tAhVPxVkKHejwA6EQieUEegQIBxAR&ep=6
legendary
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January 04, 2021, 02:49:50 PM
Just looking at some deleted social media posts.  Some user who claims to be a doctor (more credibly than are friend Oileo) says that a friend's daughter who's a PA in New York got 'Stevens-Johnson's syndrome' right after

she admitted she had many allergies. (first facepalm)
she admitted the hospital she had the jab. was where she also worked and yet she admit they did not follow the advice of the vaccine administration nor the CDC after care/monitoring

she did not have stevens-johnsons. of if she did a very mild (normal rash) not the stuff tvbcofs duckduckgo image search shows
she was back to work in days


By 'back to work' frank1-n-beans means that she is in the morgue down below where she used to work.  At least by the sounds of things from the woman who claims to actually know her situation first hand.

legendary
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January 04, 2021, 02:40:48 PM
Just looking at some deleted social media posts.  Some user who claims to be a doctor (more credibly than are friend Oileo) says that a friend's daughter who's a PA in New York got 'Stevens-Johnson's syndrome' right after

she admitted she had many allergies. (first facepalm)
she admitted the hospital she had the jab. was where she also worked and yet she admit they did not follow the advice of the vaccine administration nor the CDC after care/monitoring

she did not have stevens-johnsons. of if she did a very mild (normal rash) not the stuff tvbcofs duckduckgo image search shows
she was back to work in days
legendary
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January 04, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
Just looking at some deleted social media posts.  Some user who claims to be a doctor (more credibly than are friend Oileo) says that a friend's daughter who's a PA in New York got 'Stevens-Johnson's syndrome' right after the shot:

HO-Lee Fuckin' sheeiT:

  https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt&q=stevens+johnson%27s+syndrome&iax=images&ia=images

Give me Bells Palsy any day!  Looks similar to Transverse Myelitis except for the skin.  Quite honestly it is about what I would expect for some of the autoimmune issues which seem almost guaranteed by this particular technology.

Edit:  Here's the vid.   People can decide for themselves how credible it seems:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ub77uE6FA6dG/

Another vid from the same channel is a semi-scrape of data from VAERS.  172 pages of events reported already.  https://www.bitchute.com/video/lHpXeUQIt8XQ/

Here is the dropbox link from their vid to get the PDF of the more full scrape:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k887ub7q8ap3u5h/The-Vaccine-Adverse-Event-Reporting-System-VAERS-Results-Form.pdf?dl=0

VAERS normally gets about 1% of total adverse events by the way.

legendary
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January 04, 2021, 01:52:47 PM
Also, they had a nice little 3-minute goodie showing one of Gate's WHO demon-creatures lying out of her ass in a for-useless-eater promo about vaccines.  That didn't appear on their main site at all as best I can see.  https://www.bitchute.com/video/cBy9sKYHJfUo/

which part were lies?
points she states:
advert:
1. that adverse reactions can be coincidence, error in the administration of the vaccine or rare a problem with the vaccine itself
.. all true. all 3 categories are correct

2. robust safety systems. examine the problem and the data nd promptly address the problem
.. all true.

3. communication with many countries
true
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summit:
1. dis communication with some countries
true. never said there was perfect communication with ALL countries.

2. risk is always there with vaccines and medicines
true. hense the need to monitor this stuff.

some vaccines are made in countries that are not tied to or linked to un/who/other international groups. and so the international groups cant monitor it. and thats the point she is making.
as for countries that do communicate with wh. they get good feedback and involvement with who to ensure risk decreases

a good example is the fact that allergy risk has always been known. its been stated as a risk. and then when some had allergic reactions. they found it out promptly and re-emphasised the advice on people with allergies. and this happened within days. it was not an unknown vector of allergic risk. it was more of a vector of the local hospitals not reading the instructions and not asking people if they have allergies properly.
(advert point 1: administration of vaccine error)
and now with better emphasis on the instructions of administering vaccines. there are less people having allergic reactions

other things like the PCR test. when a lab has bad results that lab is closed off and deep cleaned and resupplied with fresh reagents and tools. this is why if you look at the 'testing capacity' charts you see sometimes numbers go down for a day or two
again due to monitoring of processes this stuff is found out and dealt with quickly

other things like the vaccine trial when someone had a adverse effect in the trial they halted the trial while they investigated. again swift action.

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yes some countries make 'knock-off' untested medical treatments and can cause more harm and so thats why the world summit want countries to be more helpful in accepting the support of monitoring systems to increase safety.
just look at all the drug overdose deaths from blackmarket dealers that mix cocaine with nasty stuff
stats of dying from blackmarket bad batches are worse by many magnitudes compared to dying from certified medications(research street corner supplied morphine vs medically prescribed morphine)
legendary
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January 04, 2021, 01:05:55 PM
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Anybody who thinks that the vaccines are okay things, needs to look here - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ - to see that they are not.


Actually the Bitchute channel is better organized and more useful than their website (https://thehighwire.com/) which is something of a mess.  No dates or run-times on the vids for one thing which is a real deterent.

Also, they had a nice little 3-minute goodie showing one of Gate's WHO demon-creatures lying out of her ass in a for-useless-eater promo about vaccines.  That didn't appear on their main site at all as best I can see.  https://www.bitchute.com/video/cBy9sKYHJfUo/

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