Topic: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? - page 96. (Read 20683 times)

In Switzerland is the death rate from the vaccine higher than the death rate fom COVID-19

badecker has already been shown this. and also individual reports that explain the equipment and the processes and methodologies.

heck even badecker even went into failed knitpick mode by saying things like "but it doesnt include centrifuge" and i pointed out it did. thus fully debunking him.

he then spins it to say its too scientific and he wants a simplified summary.
then he spins the simplified summary to say its not a scientific report(forgetting he got the science already)

he then goes on to how it was not then put into other species to pass the koch postulate.. and i then link him proof it has. he then says koch was passed but not rivers.. again i link that and debunking him further. and i even pre-empted him about the bell test.
then 3 weeks later he pretended to have not been debunked and never had those conversations. and he starts again like a broken record.
im not sure if its ignorance. stupidity, amnesia or dementia. but he just keeps circling the same thing even though its been debunked several times.

It'S nEvEr BeEn IsOlAtEd!1!

Sure, if you don't count the 40,000 times it has been isolated and had its entire genome sequenced. Feel free to browse every single one of those 40,000 episodes yourself - https://www.viprbrc.org/brc/vipr_genome_search.spg?method=SubmitForm&decorator=corona&searchId=44742&runFrom=persistent

You are part of the mass who misinterprets the documents, aren't you?

If you are looking for the "Isolated Virus in a LAB" you can request a sample here https://www.niaid.nih.gov/research/bei-resources-repository, for your research for free. Although you may need extra cash for the shipping fee though. If you are not satisfied, then you can transact for any other countries who isolated the virus, as early as January.

The article you mentioned have been circulating in social media platforms for a while, and had been debunked by many Virologists, and researchers.

And guess whom the one who spread the misinformation statements? Ms O’Doherty, who have been suspended in social medias for hate speech issues with connection to the virus itself.

I'm sure there is something that we can trust the vacciine for, but we can't trust it for anything that we think we can. Why not? Because to trust a vaccine to help get rid of a virus, you have to have isolated the virus first. Ireland has just found that the virus has never been isolated. Since it has never been isolated, who in the world knows what the vaccine is going after?

It's like going to the automotive store and buying parts for a car that you have never seen and don't know what kind of a car it is.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/today-they-were-forced-to-admit-that-covid-19-does-not-exist-5304853

mindrust you have just been saying how you want companies in india to make the vaccine via just reading the formula from the internet..
in real life manufacturing companies communicate and have meetings and double check they have the facilities, labour, ingredients and processes.

and before you again pretend that pfizer/moderna are keeping it closed source and in-house, its already been said and has been clear for months that they have outsources around the world

ill repeat the word OUTSOURCED the production to many companies around the world. but. here is the thing.. outsourced to trusted companies that have the high quality resources to do it properly

this means your dreamed up indian pharma company if it was any good would be part of that international network.. but if its just some sweat shop pill mill like i presume your dream manufacturer to be.. it would not

No. I am not going to tell that. Where did I talk about unregulated drugs? Why are you making things up? Now I remembered again why I used to be ignoring you. I should probably keep doing it.

I didn't say the government should take the formula by force and make it public. I said they should have made it open-source themselves by their own will.

What is a knock-off medicine exactly?

Do you consider China's vaccine "a knock off"? What if a big pharma company from India makes the exact same vaccine based on Biontech's data, would you consider that a "knock-off"? What is a knock-off medicine? It either works or it doesn't.

These are not abidas shoes. It is a damn drug/vax.


And they are not doing it because?

your link looks like its a antivax site aimed at brain washing parents
in the multiples sub paragraphs talking about different aspects i picked out lots of holes in their article that are wrong beyond belief

can you try to just find sources not belonging to the nutters of antivax conspiracy sites.. EG if you want to know about the number of mild/severe cases from the pfizer trial. instead of that article saying they could see results.. maybe just try reading the pfizer results
EG out of the 163 people getting covid in the placebo group with varying degrees of minor(symptom) mild_2-3 symptoms) there were 9 that had severe
yep it took me 1minute to google and find that out.

i wont even bother with the other waste of space stuff in that article

Somehow 'SAR-cov-2' managed to get in it's genetic material code for 'unsafe epitopes' at a high rate.  If a mRNA injects (mis-labeled 'vaccines') are not careful to avoid coding for these protein expression there is a relatively high risk of issues with autoimmunity.  Failure to either avoid this risk or to study it specifically for safety could well prove to be criminal negligence...and that is the best scenario assuming foreknowledge or system design cannot be proven.

The mRNA coders have been warned, the bureaucrats have been warned, the politicians have been warned, and the reader has been warned.

  https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-vaccine-candidates-safety-concerns/

Edit:  Reading through some of the links.  Holy Sheep Shit!  I knew they hated us, but just wow!


So if your dose your kids up, who are you adding to your family tree?

Jeff Epstein?


Mel Gates?


The Rebbe?

and in preparation if mindrust tries to tweak his conspiracy stuff to then say pfizer is only creating the vaccine inhouse to drive up demand and thus price..

ill just say for emphasis. the price is not going to sky rocket. they are already on a fixed price contract for as long as the pandemic continues.
also they are outsourcing production to many companies around the world. but only those evaluated as being of high standards and high ability and capacity.
thus ensuring quality is controlled.

yep its not being made in a single pfizer factory and sent out in piecemeal amounts. its being produced in multiple countries. as is moderna

maybe mindrust shoulda had some research done first. and realised many companies are involved. heck in the 10 minute research i done i found info from as far back as july mentioning all this.

What do you mean? Any lab with the right equipment can recreate that exact mRNA molecule from the Pfizer vaccine.

and what do you think patents are used for.. to protect from companies making.. knock-off

im guessing your next going to say people should own no property and anyone should be free to steal anything.
im guessing your next going to say that people should steal each others idea's and business plans.
im guessing your conspiracy site is starting to puppet you communist ideals.

one day. maybe you will have that enlightening moment that normal people dont want knock off medications with unregulated production.. however pill mill profittering doctors would love to sell knock-offs and off licence meds so that they can charge anything they like.
when you realise the real motives of those crying about patents you will realise what side of the fence you actually sit on in regards to greedy chemical companies trying to sell crap for cash

How did you come up with this idea? I didn't say anything like that.

What's stopping a pharma company from India from copying Pfizer's vaxx right now? (patents, bingo)


So this is the complete creation process of the vaccine they made? Nope. It isn't. And I actually fell for it and read the document. I thought maybe I was wrong. Well, wrong alarm.

dont worry. he isnt interested in the info. im guessing he will next want CCTV footage of the facility. and then documents of the lab technicians life stories. seems he is just trying to grasp at new straws.
if he done his own research if he had actual questions he would find the answers. he just seems to want to cry about something

Here you go. The complete structure of the mRNA sequence used by Pfizer: https://mednet-communities.net/inn/db/media/docs/11889.doc

no. just no
sorry but you have walked into a conspiracy field and fell down deep into a idiot sinkhole.

so now you want companies to make 'knock-off's' .. and you want it to be done by unregulated companies in their garden sheds i presume??

seems like you want there to be bad batches that harm people..
seems you want anyone to be able to buy it from shady clinics..
seems you want people to buy vials without knowing whats in it..
seems you want more confusion over the quality and assurances..

after all most of the 'off brand' homeopathic supplements dont contain what the label suggests, yet you now seem to think that if hundreds of random companies started selling vials of 'vaccine' it would be as good as the official one.

oh and as for the 'paying' you do realise that governments have made strict laws and contracts so that pfizer/moderna dont overcharge.. sorry but your lil basement clinic pillmilll vial seller wont be under that same contract and will obviously charge more for a unchecked product. thus doing more harm

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one day you might realise that if your getting your mindset from some conspiracy website that is telling you to not take tested and regulated medicine and instead purchase their advertised 'remedy' that is not tested. maybe its your conspiracy site that is the profiteering company.

Injecting something which is patented also gives the patent owner part ownershiṕ whoever uses it.
And yes ill Gates stated that he expects 20 fold return on every dollar invested. No money to be made with computer viruses this days.

Not the same thing. Are you really that thick to not get this? Why don't go make the same vaccine if you know their ingredients? It should be a very ez process for an expert like yourself.

If they want us to believe they mean no harm, then they should make their formula public and open source so any other company can make the same vaccine without having to pay biontech, pfizer, moderna etc...

when you realise that vaxx companies are not making $1000 a dose and only making a couple dollars a dose profit, you have to start seeing that this vaccination is not the corporate greed plan tinfoil hatters think it is

when you realise that vaxx companies have actually talked about the ingredients. which makes it clear that for instance the pfizer vaccine is the cleanest vaccine without the preservatives(hense need to freeze) you realise the tin foil hatters need to chill out a bit

when you realise that those crying about ingredients have not even bothered to even look for the ingredients. it makes it clear that they are crying about nothing. they should wait until they can actually look for the ingredients. check what the ingredients are and then cry if they dont like the ingredients

EG - pfizer
The Pfizer-BioNTech  COVID-19  Vaccine includes the following  ingredients:  mRNA, lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl) bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate),  2  [(polyethylene  glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide,  1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine,  and cholesterol), potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate,  sodium  chloride,  dibasic  sodium  phosphate  dihydrate,  and  sucrose
(basically protein, fats, sugars and salts)

EG - moderna
The Moderna  COVID-19 Vaccine contains  the following  ingredients: messenger ribonucleic  acid (mRNA), lipids   ( SM-102,  polyethylene  glyc ol  [ P EG] 2000 dimyristoyl  glycerol  [DMG], cholesterol,   and  1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine  [DSP C]), tromethamine, tromethamine  hydrochloride,   acetic acid,  sodium  acetate, and sucrose
(basically proteins, fats sugars, salts, acid/protein regulators)

!! none of the vaccines contain monkey kidneys or fetus tongues or mercury !!

it really does help if you spend 10 minutes researching.. rather than 10 minutes crying about not doing research