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Topic: Do you verify every bet as a gambler? Provably Fair Guide. - page 12. (Read 4879 times)

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Although I have never believed that any online gambling service is fair, I usually use these types of services for ease of use. Also, although I do not trust these services, they do not provide the necessary controls after any of my games and I am not sure that the bet I have played or the outcome of the game is absolutely correct. Although it is a pain to provide control for each game individually, as a gambler for entertainment purposes, I do not feel the need to provide such controls. Still, I am sure that many of the games we have played are not really honest and we can never be aware of this because we do not control the game result. Here, there were members who proved that some games that some services provided by providing the necessary controls did not give correct results.

I think that in all the top casinos the games are absolutely fair. If this were not the case, they would be very quickly caught doing it. Everything here is based on mathematics and any fraud is easy to see since everything is recorded and it is very easy for any player to get complete statistics at a distance of thousands and tens of thousands of bets.
Maybe in the past people weren't aware about it, as well as doesn't have what's within the phrase "provably fair". Now people are aware and even if something seems to be unfair in the operation soon they raise complaints. This will surely create bad reputation to the casinos. To avoid such situations casinos do legitimate service and through the house edge they make profit.
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That's why we are responsible on choosing the best gambling sites where we feel fairness and legitimacy when we access it.

It is your fault when you are victimized by those fraud gambling sites that is so unfair to its customer, and once you lose a huge amount of money, then you can't blame them.

That's the reason why prevention is much better, you should seek information and look for a reputable gambling casino first and don't waste your time to engage in gambling without even looking for a trusted casino. It should've start with us, it should've start on awareness towards choosing a fair gambling site. Don't forget to make a bad reviews once you experienced unfair gambling site so that other people will become aware with that also.
Seeking information is a must before we can start to play gambling. Without research the information, we will not know about the gambling site. But if that person is not having any intention of playing gambling than to enjoy the game and have fun, that will be okay because he will not think about provably fair or not because he doesn't chase the winning. But maybe some people still search for the information to know more about the gambling site, which is good for him, so he doesn't have any doubt about playing on that website.
That is why researching is important in order to gather information about its fairness before depositing in specific gambling site. Review of other people are also good source of information about the fairness of a specific gambling site but if it is still not enough then you are the one who should try in order for you to really experience if it is fair or not.
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Although I have never believed that any online gambling service is fair, I usually use these types of services for ease of use. Also, although I do not trust these services, they do not provide the necessary controls after any of my games and I am not sure that the bet I have played or the outcome of the game is absolutely correct. Although it is a pain to provide control for each game individually, as a gambler for entertainment purposes, I do not feel the need to provide such controls. Still, I am sure that many of the games we have played are not really honest and we can never be aware of this because we do not control the game result. Here, there were members who proved that some games that some services provided by providing the necessary controls did not give correct results.

I think that in all the top casinos the games are absolutely fair. If this were not the case, they would be very quickly caught doing it. Everything here is based on mathematics and any fraud is easy to see since everything is recorded and it is very easy for any player to get complete statistics at a distance of thousands and tens of thousands of bets.
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Although I have never believed that any online gambling service is fair, I usually use these types of services for ease of use. Also, although I do not trust these services, they do not provide the necessary controls after any of my games and I am not sure that the bet I have played or the outcome of the game is absolutely correct. Although it is a pain to provide control for each game individually, as a gambler for entertainment purposes, I do not feel the need to provide such controls. Still, I am sure that many of the games we have played are not really honest and we can never be aware of this because we do not control the game result. Here, there were members who proved that some games that some services provided by providing the necessary controls did not give correct results.
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A very helpful article for all the people who did not know about these things plus I also learned a thing or two from it . Thank you for investing your time in writing this out. I would for sure try and use it . 

Other than that I do think it's important to :

1. Use a super Trusted client
    You can read Google reviews , you can read the reviews on the board , you can even check how genuine the website it , look for scams that might be connected then only you should place a bet on the site.
     There are sites which are dedicated to actually mention the names of the Trusted websites for gambling and remember this one site be better for placing bets on cricket does not mean they will have a wide variety of online games.

2. Always make sure to check the sites which are involved in the signature campaigns and such , most of them are genuine and they start off great and some of them even give start bonus for the new people.
Even provide you with referral benefits , this way you can save up and also sometimes get free bets.

3. I sometimes make sure to check if the website I am using does have a fairness meter or something of that type , since this shows how much those people care about to provide explanation for the people who might be using them.

Some associations are also providing COVID-19 helpline and such in respect to Gambling , kudos to them.


For some small games it's practically impossible for me to sometimes check every bet especially if it's not that significant therefore this time I might try and keep this into account.

Thank you Smiley
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That is a great topic and I thought most of us already know this since we are always talking about these sites being Provable Fair.

Did some checking on the sites told by the OP, following the instructions and it appears just like the OP said. Either way, this is the site where I first read about this. I don't know if anyone here check this site out but it might be of help for you guys.
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That's why we are responsible on choosing the best gambling sites where we feel fairness and legitimacy when we access it.

It is your fault when you are victimized by those fraud gambling sites that is so unfair to its customer, and once you lose a huge amount of money, then you can't blame them.

That's the reason why prevention is much better, you should seek information and look for a reputable gambling casino first and don't waste your time to engage in gambling without even looking for a trusted casino. It should've start with us, it should've start on awareness towards choosing a fair gambling site. Don't forget to make a bad reviews once you experienced unfair gambling site so that other people will become aware with that also.
Seeking information is a must before we can start to play gambling. Without research the information, we will not know about the gambling site. But if that person is not having any intention of playing gambling than to enjoy the game and have fun, that will be okay because he will not think about provably fair or not because he doesn't chase the winning. But maybe some people still search for the information to know more about the gambling site, which is good for him, so he doesn't have any doubt about playing on that website.
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Very useful topic, although the explanation is quite long but it is worth to reading. Because it contains valuable information.
Especially for those of me who don't know how provably fair works, with the explanation in the opening post I get knowledge
how check the fairness. So someone like me can be better at choosing gambling sites to play with, not based on gambling sites
popular and widely used by others. Which is not necessarily fairness.
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That's why we are responsible on choosing the best gambling sites where we feel fairness and legitimacy when we access it.

It is your fault when you are victimized by those fraud gambling sites that is so unfair to its customer, and once you lose a huge amount of money, then you can't blame them.

That's the reason why prevention is much better, you should seek information and look for a reputable gambling casino first and don't waste your time to engage in gambling without even looking for a trusted casino. It should've start with us, it should've start on awareness towards choosing a fair gambling site. Don't forget to make a bad reviews once you experienced unfair gambling site so that other people will become aware with that also.

Only we are responsible for the events that happen to us. Our action or our inaction leads to what is happening to us now.
If we neglected to search for information about any project and ended up falling for a scam, it is our fault.
We should always be critical of everything, even in cases where we are 100% sure of the correctness of our choice.
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As a small-time roller, I don't verify my every single bet. That seems an unnecessary hassle or a waste of time for me who's just having pure fun rolling the dice for example. But I admit that it is every gambler's responsibility to make sure he is not just gambling but also makes sure that fairness is installed. A random verification would be enough.

Another reason why I don't verify every bet is that I am using sites which have already made a name in this forum. I don't think you can get away from a red tag and criticism in this forum if you are promoting an unfair gambling site.

That's why we are responsible on choosing the best gambling sites where we feel fairness and legitimacy when we access it.

It is your fault when you are victimized by those fraud gambling sites that is so unfair to its customer, and once you lose a huge amount of money, then you can't blame them.

That's the reason why prevention is much better, you should seek information and look for a reputable gambling casino first and don't waste your time to engage in gambling without even looking for a trusted casino. It should've start with us, it should've start on awareness towards choosing a fair gambling site. Don't forget to make a bad reviews once you experienced unfair gambling site so that other people will become aware with that also.
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Would be nice if there is an online tool that automates the checking of seed hash if it has change while betting because to me, manually copying hash seed in every bet is a bit an hassle it would render my gambling experience unenjoyable. Hope you could also develop a GUI plugin for these kinds of problems and avoid gambling sites exploiting the PF feature.
Actually for me, I just verify bets when I am betting big and other times I just believe the system.
It is the classic case of suppose you have a box of 100 locks and you don't know if all of them are working and smooth so you just randomly pick up 5-10 and then pass the whole box. Similarly you verify a few bets every now and then to make the system is fair.

I have another concern that is how frequently people actually change the client seed? There must be hardly any gamblers who change their seed regularly so yes it is literally not possible to verify all the bets and change seed every time because it would be too much hassle.
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This really gives me an idea on checking every bet I have made. Though I'm just small time player I never check nor verify my bet in a game. But this post makes me now realize there is other else that we can do on checking if the site is offer a provably fair. I never won actually but the site I'm paying is one of the well known online casino.

I suppose you are not the only one. I think the majority here did not think about it before the appearance of this topic, or rather, they thought about it, but no further action occurred.
Now this is already a question of interest, because in fact this is collective interaction at the forum. I will definitely check my next bet.
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This really gives me an idea on checking every bet I have made. Though I'm just small time player I never check nor verify my bet in a game. But this post makes me now realize there is other else that we can do on checking if the site is offer a provably fair. I never won actually but the site I'm paying is one of the well known online casino.
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Maybe it could be a good idea to open a thread where users would post an update everytime they've checked a gamble on a provably fair casino.

I think this makes sense only if someone makes a certain amount of bets in completely different casinos, and then checks them. Thus, we can understand how things are in each individual casino.
There is no point in checking and posting the same thing every time. If it works, then it works.
legendary
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I never check with the provably fair feature. I just spend, if lucky I'll win or else it enda up with loss. One day going through my gambling account saw the statistics of my betting. It has got the increased number of winning rolls and low number of losing rolls. While checking the profit statistics it was negative. By the time I checked whether the rolls were provably fair and found everything to be perfect.
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Actually, I am guilty with that as I seldom do the verification. As I only play in known gambling sites here, I feel I can trust them with provable fairness aspect.
But if the site is new, and wanted to try their site. I try to verify my bet.
But I usually do that only at the start, once I see that the site is practicing provable fairness, I don't verify my succeeding bets.
But if you are shelling a lot of money, I believe you need to verify randomly if they are consistent with their fairness.


Same. The inertia of my mind tells me that checking the fairness bets is unnecessary. After all, I am already playing on the platform chosen by more sophisticated forum users who have probably done all the checks before me. However, everything should be checked, what I think about is just an assumption that relieves me of responsibility and forces me to do nothing.
Maybe it could be a good idea to open a thread where users would post an update everytime they've checked a gamble on a provably fair casino.
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Actually, I am guilty with that as I seldom do the verification. As I only play in known gambling sites here, I feel I can trust them with provable fairness aspect.
But if the site is new, and wanted to try their site. I try to verify my bet.
But I usually do that only at the start, once I see that the site is practicing provable fairness, I don't verify my succeeding bets.
But if you are shelling a lot of money, I believe you need to verify randomly if they are consistent with their fairness.


Same. The inertia of my mind tells me that checking the fairness bets is unnecessary. After all, I am already playing on the platform chosen by more sophisticated forum users who have probably done all the checks before me. However, everything should be checked, what I think about is just an assumption that relieves me of responsibility and forces me to do nothing.
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Mostly I agree with your post, but in front we also need to understand " provably " it self. There is no game like that, all features using bot and monopoly by system, even a gambler win million the site still get billion from lost gambler. Gambling is game for fun and people misunderstanding about the purposes. Use it to become rich is worst and find favorite player from gambling world will make you stuck in rich " imagination ".

But we can't control people and we can't tell them that gambling is bad if they found happiness in that.

Some people are not only doing gambling just to get rich, some people are entertaining themselves to relieve stress.

Don't idolize someone who are good in gambling because that can negatively affect your money. Gambling platforms are fair because that is a requirement and you should be aware about their own fairness when you are finding a casino where you can gamble comfortably. Just don't make gambling as a source of profit for a long-term because it can make your money disappear in a single betting only.
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As a small-time roller, I don't verify my every single bet. That seems an unnecessary hassle or a waste of time for me who's just having pure fun rolling the dice for example. But I admit that it is every gambler's responsibility to make sure he is not just gambling but also makes sure that fairness is installed. A random verification would be enough.

Another reason why I don't verify every bet is that I am using sites which have already made a name in this forum. I don't think you can get away from a red tag and criticism in this forum if you are promoting an unfair gambling site.
I also don't verify my bets when I play dice or slot games because I also think it is a hassle that I need to check if the gambling site is fair to play or not. But I always check reviews and feedback in this forum if the gambling site that I am visiting is safe and fair to play. So I don't need to verify my every single bet as a gambler because someone has already confirmed it if the site is fair enough.
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As a small-time roller, I don't verify my every single bet. That seems an unnecessary hassle or a waste of time for me who's just having pure fun rolling the dice for example. But I admit that it is every gambler's responsibility to make sure he is not just gambling but also makes sure that fairness is installed. A random verification would be enough.

Another reason why I don't verify every bet is that I am using sites which have already made a name in this forum. I don't think you can get away from a red tag and criticism in this forum if you are promoting an unfair gambling site.
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