Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling?

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Quote from: Pumared on February 18, 2024, 11:43:31 PM

But it's very difficult to determine when a person is addicted or just plays a lot.

That’s why account freeze initiated by the casino himself for suspected addicted gambler is non-existent because there’s no way to determine online if the user is really addicted or not. Just base on his gambling activity. All casino have self-exclusion feature as an alternative option to fight addiction because no one can determine is addicted except the person itself in an online world.

Although this self-exclusion is rarely being use since it’s very hard to detect addiction by the person itself. So overall casino doesn’t want to meddle on their user personal addiction problem unless the person itself initiated it and not the casino.

An approach would be interesting where the website would try to contact the user in order to understand the situation. If something is found, it would be interesting to freeze the account. I believe this way would be the most friendly way possible.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 09, 2024, 05:31:17 PM

If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?

I think, no casino will block your account like that because no one can decide whether you are a poor who sold his house to gamble or you are a rich person who makes high bets. As far as I know, the only time when casinos freeze customer's account because of irresponsible gambling is when you inform about your gambling addiction and request an account freeze or when you send offensive messages in casino chat that indicates that you have a gambling problem and get easily irritated when you lose.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 09, 2024, 05:31:17 PM

If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?

If someone who is addicted to gambling has their account frozen, that won't stop them from gambling, we know that when someone is addicted, they will find and do whatever they can to continue gambling. There are many ways to play online casinos and gambling sites. We cannot base the loss or freezing of an account so that a gambling addict can stop gambling altogether or reduce their addiction to it. It is up to the gambler to decide whether they are willing to stop or manage themselves properly, especially when it comes to gambling.

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Quote from: Pumared on February 18, 2024, 11:43:31 PM

But it's very difficult to determine when a person is addicted or just plays a lot.

That’s why account freeze initiated by the casino himself for suspected addicted gambler is non-existent because there’s no way to determine online if the user is really addicted or not. Just base on his gambling activity. All casino have self-exclusion feature as an alternative option to fight addiction because no one can determine is addicted except the person itself in an online world.

Although this self-exclusion is rarely being use since it’s very hard to detect addiction by the person itself. So overall casino doesn’t want to meddle on their user personal addiction problem unless the person itself initiated it and not the casino.

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Quote from: umbara ardian on February 18, 2024, 12:25:14 PM

Casino account freezes to stop people from gambling irresponsibly? Sounds like a noble quest, but hold up, it ain't as simple as it seems. Sure, casinos wanna be the good guys, lookin' out for their players. But losing some dough and adding more doesn't automatically mean someone's a gambling gremlin. Some folks just like keepin' their funds tight, like a ninja with their wallet. Plus, who wants a bunch of cash chillin' at the casino, tempting fate ?

Now, a freeze might help some folks hit the pause button, clear their heads. There's a whole ocean of casinos out there, just a click away. So, poof, the freeze becomes a speed bump, not a roadblock. The real key lies in people being responsible and knowin' when to say "enough." And forget about some global casino hand-holding. These guys are more like competitive squirrels, each with their own nut stash. So, yeah, a united front against gambling woes? Not likely.

You have a great point, especially on the issue of leaving money with the casino. As I said previously here, blocking the account is a good thing as long as it is within the terms. But it's very difficult to determine when a person is addicted or just plays a lot.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 09, 2024, 05:31:17 PM

If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?

Although I have not had this kind of experience yet, I do wonder why your account was frozen, given that they obviously love customers who make regular deposits. It's possible that you broke a regulation or that they discovered suspicious behavior on your account. Your account may have been freeze, so they may look into it, or maybe the casino you are playing at is having maintenance. However, I had no idea that a person's account may be frozen for making more deposits after losing repeatedly. I'm relieved that these kinds of regulations are in place in order to reduce the number of gambling addicts and discourage gambling consumption.

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Casino account freezes to stop people from gambling irresponsibly? Sounds like a noble quest, but hold up, it ain't as simple as it seems. Sure, casinos wanna be the good guys, lookin' out for their players. But losing some dough and adding more doesn't automatically mean someone's a gambling gremlin. Some folks just like keepin' their funds tight, like a ninja with their wallet. Plus, who wants a bunch of cash chillin' at the casino, tempting fate ?

Now, a freeze might help some folks hit the pause button, clear their heads. There's a whole ocean of casinos out there, just a click away. So, poof, the freeze becomes a speed bump, not a roadblock. The real key lies in people being responsible and knowin' when to say "enough." And forget about some global casino hand-holding. These guys are more like competitive squirrels, each with their own nut stash. So, yeah, a united front against gambling woes? Not likely.

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Many countries got laws saying gambling sites gotta be responsible. Think of it like a club with bouncers checking IDs – they gotta make sure everyone's playing safe. So, limits, pop-ups reminding you to chill, and even self-ban options exist, even if they might seem like buzzkills. Imagine someone going all-in on every hand, losing their shirt, then charging back the money. Not cool, right? By helping players set limits, gambling sites avoid messy situations and keep everyone safe, including themselves.

Sure, impulsive players might bring in a quick buck, but they're like shooting stars – bright but gone fast. Responsible players, on the other hand, are more likely to stick around, play responsibly, and keep the money flowing for the site in the long run.

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Quote from: Mia Chloe on February 10, 2024, 07:21:21 AM

The undeniable fact is everyone is not the same which prevents this question from having a direct YES or NO answer. Freezing the gambling account of "Mr bob" may make him realize that he had made wrong moves and was involved in an unhealthy gambling practice.therefoe making him amend his ways.
However if same action is taken on "Mr John's gambling account, he could actually get angry an retaliate by staking even more instead of following suit like Mr bob did.
Gambling requires the ability to make the right decisions instead of acting based on emotional rush.

It also depends on the reason on why our accounts got frozen but usually it is done by the casino because we did an exploit. We still can change from bad to good but we still gonna continue playing gambling.

On your Mr. John example, how can he stake more if his account was frozen? But, he can do it on other casinos. It's only funny if he is the one who is angry when in fact it was his own fault and not by the casino, though there might still be instances that it was the casino's fault, just like when banks freeze their customers' accounts for no reason. This is a shady practice and we can report them for this, and it's not a reason to rage bet.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on February 16, 2024, 06:33:02 PM

Casinos don't have the right to do that. Just because they perceive that the person is not gambling responsibly doesn't give them the right to lock the person's account. If he has defaulted on a rule or it was stated in the "terms of service" that they would lock his account if he gambles irresponsibly then they might have the right to do so, but if it's not started the account owner has the right to get angry.

I also do not think freezing or locking a casino account can curb irresponsible gambling. The gambler can easily open another account with a different casino.

Casinos have the right to lock the accounts of all their members, whether they gamble very infrequently or those who gamble often. Even if the person is not gambling responsibly, the casino will not lock that person's account because that person should already be responsible for gambling. A gambler should lock his account using self-exclusion if he does not want to gamble irresponsibly because it is his account and his money. The casino will lock a person's account when the casino finds the person breaking the rules of the casino and the casino will ask for identification from the person before the casino allows them to continue gambling.

Even if a casino locks a person's account, that person can easily open a new account at that casino or any other casino. Therefore, we must be careful when playing gambling and must be able to use gambling as entertainment only.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 09, 2024, 05:31:17 PM

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It doesn't. Like for real. It's really easy for someone to just create a new account on another casino, or if tried to ban himself offline, then go register online or something. Casinos don't have any measures at all for trying to curb it to that point since in the end, they're still customers aka money/profit for them.

I mean it already says a lot with them needing someone to request the user to freeze their account before freezing it. Otherwise, you would've expected the legal team of a casino to require individual financial statements so that they can track the difference between the amount they use monthly to pay vs their monthly income. Probably goes a bunch of legal stuff, but tldr, they can't. And even if they can't, they probably won't. Unless required by the law.

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Gambling sites stand for the deposits of the gambler. If the gamblers can't be addicted to gambling then they won't deposit after a loss and in this case, casinos will be a loser and they won't be able to maintain their costs. So, the heading is the full alter site of a casino.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on February 16, 2024, 06:33:02 PM

Casinos don't have the right to do that. Just because they perceive that the person is not gambling responsibly doesn't give them the right to lock the person's account. If he has defaulted on a rule or it was stated in the "terms of service" that they would lock his account if he gambles irresponsibly then they might have the right to do so, but if it's not started the account owner has the right to get angry.

I also do not think freezing or locking a casino account can curb irresponsible gambling. The gambler can easily open another account with a different casino.

This way it makes more sense. Adding rules where the casino can withdraw you makes more sense than not making it clear to the player. This way the player doesn't get angry and neither does the casino lose that much money.

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Casinos don't have the right to do that. Just because they perceive that the person is not gambling responsibly doesn't give them the right to lock the person's account. If he has defaulted on a rule or it was stated in the "terms of service" that they would lock his account if he gambles irresponsibly then they might have the right to do so, but if it's not started the account owner has the right to get angry.

I also do not think freezing or locking a casino account can curb irresponsible gambling. The gambler can easily open another account with a different casino.

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Casino loves those gamblers who are impulsive
Casino loves those gamblers who do chase up loses
Casino loves for people to continously be making deposits
Casino loves to those impulsive gamblers

This is why its really that hard to believe that a gambling casino site or house would be blocking someones account without telling them just because
they are really that seeing that those people are becoming that addicted?It is really that fully contrary on what they do really like.

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If basically the person really likes gambling and has an addictive taste for gambling itself, then there will always be opportunities and ways for a gambling addict to continue carrying out his gambling activities, even though his casino account has been frozen on one of the gambling platforms. Because there is not just one online casino platform in this world, but many. and it is quite difficult for an individual to get out of the problem of his addiction to gambling. Even when he doesn't have enough money to be able to gamble, he will struggle to earn money, even by taking out loans or selling his personal belongings, this he does simply to fulfill his desire to continue gambling. "The losses they experience while gambling, sometimes this is not enough to make them aware of the bad behavior they have been doing." And they will realize this only when their position is really difficult, where there is no longer anyone who cares and believes in them enough, so they can no longer take out a loan, or when they no longer have things that can for sale.

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Quote from: Quidat on February 16, 2024, 04:48:47 PM

Easy to say but when you are on such situation or condition then you would definitely be finding this to be a tough situation.Only a few could be able to mind themselves that they are spending too much and the rest would really be failing on doing so and would really be continuing on what they are doing just because they do have those kind of thoughts that they could really be winners in the end of the day.Well, people wont really be making out those kind of realizations until they would really be able to experience those unfortunate events and this is why its not really shocking
that there are people who do keep on whining and crying on the time that they had experienced those tough situations in regarding to this.

I've been an irresponsible gambler before or should I say an addicted gambler and because of my experience, I think I perfectly can relate to what you're saying here. The way people think it's easy to stop a gambling addict from his addiction is actually not as easy most people think and that's because when a gambler become addicted, he'll always think that he's gonna recover all his lost money in the next gamble which is almost impossible to do but he'll still want to try and try again.

For me, I lost every dime on me and had to go almost 72 hours without food before I called myself to order but before that, my close relatives who has already found out that I was addicted had advised me to stop but never did I listen to theme

Listening into someones advise is never been that a behavior nor a thing for those addicted ones already with gambling. You would definitely be pushing yourself on playing
gambling as long you would really be able to make yourself getting that contented basing up into the things that you do have in your mind. Once you wont really be satisfied then
you wont really be quitting or as long you do have the funds that you could really make use of then you wont really be quitting. This is why on the time that they would
be blocked or would really be stopped then there would really be that huge disappointment or would really be testing out their patience.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on February 09, 2024, 05:31:17 PM

If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?

There's no casino that would try to help you curb your gambling addiction; Mind you, casinos are businesses managed and controlled by people (their owners)... It'll be a big loss should they try to ask you to stop wagering - cus the more you lose, the more they make profit...

...But lemme just assume this was the case - I'd simply say it doesn't curb the gambler's urge... They could actually decide to get registered on another site and the worst would be expected. Alot of gamblers may even go as far as absconding from the relative's sight should they try to disturb them (assuming this was a land-based casino issue too)

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Quote from: Westinhome on February 16, 2024, 04:59:06 PM

Quote from: Quidat on February 16, 2024, 04:48:47 PM

Easy to say but when you are on such situation or condition then you would definitely be finding this to be a tough situation.Only a few could be able to mind themselves that they are spending too much and the rest would really be failing on doing so and would really be continuing on what they are doing just because they do have those kind of thoughts that they could really be winners in the end of the day.Well, people wont really be making out those kind of realizations until they would really be able to experience those unfortunate events and this is why its not really shocking
that there are people who do keep on whining and crying on the time that they had experienced those tough situations in regarding to this.

I've been an irresponsible gambler before or should I say an addicted gambler and because of my experience, I think I perfectly can relate to what you're saying here. The way people think it's easy to stop a gambling addict from his addiction is actually not as easy most people think and that's because when a gambler become addicted, he'll always think that he's gonna recover all his lost money in the next gamble which is almost impossible to do but he'll still want to try and try again.

For me, I lost every dime on me and had to go almost 72 hours without food before I called myself to order but before that, my close relatives who has already found out that I was addicted had advised me to stop but never did I listen to theme

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Quote from: Quidat on February 16, 2024, 04:48:47 PM

Easy to say but when you are on such situation or condition then you would definitely be finding this to be a tough situation.Only a few could be able to mind themselves that they are spending too much and the rest would really be failing on doing so and would really be continuing on what they are doing just because they do have those kind of thoughts that they could really be winners in the end of the day.Well, people wont really be making out those kind of realizations until they would really be able to experience those unfortunate events and this is why its not really shocking
that there are people who do keep on whining and crying on the time that they had experienced those tough situations in regarding to this.

The situation you are surviving only know by yourself,because the gamblers who loss the funds get into the biggest depression stage.The gamblers who get into the deepest depression will become a gambling addicted person most of the time.The end is not know by the gamblers at the beginning,So he will keep play for the good results.When the gamblers keep increasing their initial dollars,he will get some ego towards the gambling site.It must be avoided by the gamblers,because that ego will increase your self confidence.The final result will be the gamblers will double their betting money for each bet which is the risky one which leads to big loss.

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