If s country is ok with sweeping regulation, then they can make it effective.
Completely forbid online licenses and ban any casinos from operating online. This can only be enforced working closely with internet service providers on the national level like china does. Otherwise, good luck. Truth be told this is a bit authoritarian.
What the UK does is a little less invasive. At least for licensed casinos you can enter your money but up to a certain limit and you have to provide income statements. I think that makes more sense actually. But it's still easy to avoid it someone is knowledgeable with technology if they just sign up to a crypto casino.
Topic: Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling? - page 3. (Read 2748 times)
November 29, 2024, 05:35:56 PM
November 29, 2024, 04:23:47 PM
If a gamblers account got freeze, then such person has been violating the rules under their platform policy, but doing that may be a reason for them to be warned because a frozen account is likely to be unfrozen with time, but when they receive such warning and repeated the same things, then the user may be banned which is a complete restriction over the use of their platform on that gambler.
Yes, account freezing is very possible or done by the casino, but one thing I will say is that it is also only when a user violates the rules implemented by the casino, meaning reasonable rules, but if for example talking about opening an account due to a gambler who acts excessively such as gambling blindly in the sense of depositing most of their money to gamble, I think it doesn't make sense if the casino freezes the user's account for that reason, because after all, as we know, the purpose of the casino creating gambling is to make a profit and they get that profit from the gamblers who play, meaning the more aggressive or excessive a gambler plays, the greater the casino's profit will be and I'm sure that's what the casino wants, or I mean I'm not sure that the casino will freeze the gambler's account because of the user's actions that benefit the casino. 
November 29, 2024, 03:49:41 PM
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So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.
So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.
The responsibility to stop gambling is entirely up to the gambler, no matter how the casino freezes or bans the user's account, if they still want to gamble then they can gamble whenever they want. And therefore self-control for gambling is something that is needed by gamblers, because if they want to stop gambling or want to reduce their activities then it is entirely their responsibility, not the casino or their closest people.
Restricting a gambler's account is a factor to reduce a gambler's urge to want to gamble. This is particulate to chronic gamblers who are deeply addicted to gambling and cannot help their situations. In this case, self-control doesn't work rather than self-isolation or isolation from resources that can aide gambling especially the gambling funds.
Whether its a casino gambler or a sport betting gambler, restricting gambler's account will positively impact on the gambler's inability to gamble for a period of time which could on its own become a rehabilitation process. Gambling is a fun game and it is meant to be taken as a recreational activity by all and sundry irrespective of age or social status but the moment you begin to see it as an avenue to make quick money, you won't be able to control it.
November 29, 2024, 03:26:44 PM
If a gamblers account got freeze, then such person has been violating the rules under their platform policy, but doing that may be a reason for them to be warned because a frozen account is likely to be unfrozen with time, but when they receive such warning and repeated the same things, then the user may be banned which is a complete restriction over the use of their platform on that gambler.
November 29, 2024, 03:04:40 PM
While I read, in the past, the TOS of some casinos, there is a line that states about irresponsible gamblers or addicts not welcomed to use the casino. A time they'll go further to ensure the player doesn't play in other online gaming platforms. I do not know how effective this is presently, due to the rate at which gamblers can bypass such restrictions. But, it's a great move for the safety of players, also casinos, some, do care for the irresponsible gamblers. At least, they'll need to get better before playing again.
I have a friend that works as a researcher in one institute of the government, well paid and good treatment from his place of work but one thing was ruining him which is gambling. He was a heavy gambler before he even got the job, so he was using his salary for gambling that at a point, it was difficult to for him to stay a day without. He was advice to lock the account for 6 moths, this is his 5 month of no gambling in hisofe and he is doing well.
Restrictig accounts or suspending an accounts helps alot, you can't try another one especially if it's a local accounts and if you use another account name to register, it will go as normal but you wouldn't be able to withdraw your money so there is no point on trying to gamble by all means. You will only be struggling in the casinos. I'm very happy they have this feature, it will definitely be there because of the regulations and license else casino will not allow their players to get rest.
November 29, 2024, 01:56:16 PM
While I read, in the past, the TOS of some casinos, there is a line that states about irresponsible gamblers or addicts not welcomed to use the casino. A time they'll go further to ensure the player doesn't play in other online gaming platforms. I do not know how effective this is presently, due to the rate at which gamblers can bypass such restrictions. But, it's a great move for the safety of players, also casinos, some, do care for the irresponsible gamblers. At least, they'll need to get better before playing again.
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November 29, 2024, 03:17:56 AM
On the other hand, there are always some gamblers who do not care about anything announced by the casino, we will always find such gamblers especially those who are really obsessed with winning,
There will always be and even more amateur gamblers who come just to play in the hope of getting big wins without knowing the rules and what risks will happen, even more than gamblers who really understand and understand how the casino works.
but on the other hand I also do not see any reason for the casino to completely ban gamblers because after all, as I said before, the point is they get profit from the gamblers who come.
Casinos will be very happy with the arrival of many new members and the money they deposit, because the biggest income they get is from new people who don't understand and try continuously but fail so that they lose money in every game.
Sometimes there are also crazy rich people who play at new casinos and make big deposits and just lose.
While I read, in the past, the TOS of some casinos, there is a line that states about irresponsible gamblers or addicts not welcomed to use the casino. A time they'll go further to ensure the player doesn't play in other online gaming platforms. I do not know how effective this is presently, due to the rate at which gamblers can bypass such restrictions. But, it's a great move for the safety of players, also casinos, some, do care for the irresponsible gamblers. At least, they'll need to get better before playing again.
You know it's just a warning, online casino platforms also don't know if their users are a gambling addict or not, so the warning is just a statement that confirms that casinos are irresponsible when those who enter are unable to control themselves and will suffer a lot of losses.
November 27, 2024, 10:54:53 PM
Casino has no business with the "gambling responsibly" thingy infact they would really love you not to gamble responsibly as they wouldhave more profit, they are only after profit so either you gamble responsibly or not the don't give a fack... Although all casino will always warn you to gamble responsibly, even most advert does that so it depends on individual to take the right decision.
Besides, no casino will ban or restrict access to your account just because you didn't gamble responsibly (you're the only one that can determine that ) , only when you go against their rules and regulations which most casino makes it known to you before even registering unless it’s a shrewd casino.
Besides, no casino will ban or restrict access to your account just because you didn't gamble responsibly (you're the only one that can determine that ) , only when you go against their rules and regulations which most casino makes it known to you before even registering unless it’s a shrewd casino.
While I read, in the past, the TOS of some casinos, there is a line that states about irresponsible gamblers or addicts not welcomed to use the casino. A time they'll go further to ensure the player doesn't play in other online gaming platforms. I do not know how effective this is presently, due to the rate at which gamblers can bypass such restrictions. But, it's a great move for the safety of players, also casinos, some, do care for the irresponsible gamblers. At least, they'll need to get better before playing again.
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November 27, 2024, 10:15:56 PM
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Re: Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling?
No. You can request to a gambling website to freeze, ban, or even delete your account as a gambler but there are many online gambling websites out there still. Even you freeze a gambler's account, the urge is still there. The addiction is still there and one gambling advertisement that he/she sees online might trigger his gambling addiction again, hence, find a gambling website where he/she can gamble again. It's not the responsibility of the gambling owners, but it's the gambler themselves.
Well, there might be some websites that will give you a warning first before doing the thing, but the problem is that gamblers particularly addicted ones doesn't even read those warnings and instead, go and gamble ALL of their money, and if they lost, THEY'LL BLAME THE ONLINE CASINO which for me is just stupid (sorry for the word).
Overall, banning or freezing an addicted gambler's account doesn't help towards him and his addiction towards gambling. With how easy for somebody to access it, it's only a matter of time until the gambler finds a gambling site, and gamble on it again.
November 27, 2024, 07:02:05 PM
The only time that it will discourage them and make them lose interest is when their account that’s being restricted or banned has balance in them - that’s the only time they’ll start losing interest but if it just a zero balance account it won’t do shit to them.
Yeah, if the account has nothing in it the casino can do everything it wanna do. Because no matter how it goes, there's always some other casino where they can play.But if it has a huge and sums of balance, then the user will do whatever it can to fight for its money to take it back and allow it to be withdrawn,
Besides, no casino will ban or restrict access to your account just because you didn't gamble responsibly (you're the only one that can determine that ) , only when you go against their rules and regulations which most casino makes it known to you before even registering unless it’s a shrewd casino.
November 27, 2024, 06:47:14 PM
They usually block IPs and some more things, trade secret of casinos I guess, if they want a self exclusion.
However it is just like any other "ban" - like asking someone to lock you up because you are committing a crime all the well knowing how to open the lock yourself. Casinos know this and they started it only because some people accused casinos of promoting gambling addiction, so they appear as to doing their part in preventing it.
So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.
I agree with you, if an addicted gambler doesn't want to get out of gambling addiction, no system can get him out of that addiction. Casinos fulfill their social responsibilities, but if gamblers avoid every rule and gamble uncontrollably, then it is not possible to stop gambling. Self-control is the most important thing. You are right, stopping gambling is the job of each gambler, not the casino.However it is just like any other "ban" - like asking someone to lock you up because you are committing a crime all the well knowing how to open the lock yourself. Casinos know this and they started it only because some people accused casinos of promoting gambling addiction, so they appear as to doing their part in preventing it.
So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.
Powers suggests that the process of preventing themselves from being controlled by gambling starts with drawing personal as well as caring for with the help of friends and/ or relatives. It is also possible to join a group of people who support people willing to quit this vice as well. By cooperation and self engagement, one can surely free himself of gambling addiction.
November 27, 2024, 06:21:30 PM
Someone who is addicted to gambling will experience many bad impacts which can affect other people around them, with them being addicted of course they have to undergo better changes such as getting out of there to see many other things outside if gambling is not something that can make them get a steady income or even make them get rich in just a short time, although this may happen but the chances of it happening are very small.
And for someone who is already addicted, it will not be easy for them to stop even if the account they have is frozen or blocked but they will not run out of ways to return to gambling, they will definitely return to gambling with one way is to create a new account or indeed look for a new casino. Awareness is the key to being able to minimize addiction that has occurred but addiction itself is not easy to happen so it is difficult to get out when you are trapped in a cycle of addiction.
The truth is you are right, being addicted brings many negative impacts, but the fact of blocking your main account is already an indication that you want to improve, and that you want to get out of it, it is a fact that you can create an account and play, but that already requires an effort, every day an addicted person has to have more willpower, if you do something like that you will see that all the progress you had will be thrown back and you will have to go back to steel, and when you realize that all the previous effort was not worth it you will not want to fail anymore, that is something psychological, it depends on yourself as a person whether you want to get out or not, because first of all the addicted person must help themselves.And for someone who is already addicted, it will not be easy for them to stop even if the account they have is frozen or blocked but they will not run out of ways to return to gambling, they will definitely return to gambling with one way is to create a new account or indeed look for a new casino. Awareness is the key to being able to minimize addiction that has occurred but addiction itself is not easy to happen so it is difficult to get out when you are trapped in a cycle of addiction.
November 26, 2024, 06:09:55 AM
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On the other hand, I am actually not sure that all casinos will implement such a rule, because usually casinos will not care about anything experienced by gamblers, the point is as long as gamblers come with money then the casino will treat them like respected guests, because only with the presence of gamblers will the casino continue to make a profit, and simply put the more irresponsible gamblers there are the greater the casino's profits will be.
Actually, we can see how online casinos with high reputations keep their names good by giving them early guidance so that they know that online casinos have high risks and lose more money. On the other hand, I am actually not sure that all casinos will implement such a rule, because usually casinos will not care about anything experienced by gamblers, the point is as long as gamblers come with money then the casino will treat them like respected guests, because only with the presence of gamblers will the casino continue to make a profit, and simply put the more irresponsible gamblers there are the greater the casino's profits will be.
They have created a ToS that can be read by new casino users, so their responsibilities have been fulfilled with some of these warnings,
but gamblers who are brutal and don't think about the risk, will just log in and then lose everything.
Casinos certainly don't care whether their players lose or win because from those transactions the casino is built and survives.
On the other hand, there are always some gamblers who do not care about anything announced by the casino, we will always find such gamblers especially those who are really obsessed with winning, but with the casino's actions informing all gamblers there by informing them that the risk in gambling is very high, then at least it has made the casino free from responsibility when its gamblers experience any downturn because they have previously informed them, but on the other hand I also do not see any reason for the casino to completely ban gamblers because after all, as I said before, the point is they get profit from the gamblers who come.
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November 26, 2024, 06:09:19 AM
Casinos certainly don't care whether their players lose or win because from those transactions the casino is built and survives.
Its just like when cigarette companies put up a "smoking causes cancer" banner on their packs but still dont stop selling the product. I mean why would they? They are good money from the sales and it only seems morally correct for them to give out a warning to the consumers, the decision to stop the habit is the consumer's only.Similarly, in gambling, the casinos want to stay in the clear, nobody can accuse them for forcing people to gamble - which is a twisted argument itself probably made by woke type people and not level headed ones.
The above is not related to gambling except we are to compare that to casinos and how they preach responsible gambling, just thought you should know that...
November 26, 2024, 05:55:44 AM
They usually block IPs and some more things, trade secret of casinos I guess, if they want a self exclusion.
However it is just like any other "ban" - like asking someone to lock you up because you are committing a crime all the well knowing how to open the lock yourself. Casinos know this and they started it only because some people accused casinos of promoting gambling addiction, so they appear as to doing their part in preventing it.
So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.
I agree with you, if an addicted gambler doesn't want to get out of gambling addiction, no system can get him out of that addiction. Casinos fulfill their social responsibilities, but if gamblers avoid every rule and gamble uncontrollably, then it is not possible to stop gambling. Self-control is the most important thing. You are right, stopping gambling is the job of each gambler, not the casino.However it is just like any other "ban" - like asking someone to lock you up because you are committing a crime all the well knowing how to open the lock yourself. Casinos know this and they started it only because some people accused casinos of promoting gambling addiction, so they appear as to doing their part in preventing it.
So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.
Just like on what others been saying that it doesnt really matter about locking and anything because if you arent that tending to quit gambling then you will really be just that basically be
playing again and again and this is something that what makes gambling business so profitable because of this very common gambler behavior.
November 26, 2024, 05:44:41 AM
They usually block IPs and some more things, trade secret of casinos I guess, if they want a self exclusion.
However it is just like any other "ban" - like asking someone to lock you up because you are committing a crime all the well knowing how to open the lock yourself. Casinos know this and they started it only because some people accused casinos of promoting gambling addiction, so they appear as to doing their part in preventing it.
So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.
I agree with you, if an addicted gambler doesn't want to get out of gambling addiction, no system can get him out of that addiction. Casinos fulfill their social responsibilities, but if gamblers avoid every rule and gamble uncontrollably, then it is not possible to stop gambling. Self-control is the most important thing. You are right, stopping gambling is the job of each gambler, not the casino. However it is just like any other "ban" - like asking someone to lock you up because you are committing a crime all the well knowing how to open the lock yourself. Casinos know this and they started it only because some people accused casinos of promoting gambling addiction, so they appear as to doing their part in preventing it.
So yeah, it never stop irresponsible gambling, that is the job of the gambler to stop, not the casino.
November 26, 2024, 05:31:11 AM
Casinos certainly don't care whether their players lose or win because from those transactions the casino is built and survives.
Its just like when cigarette companies put up a "smoking causes cancer" banner on their packs but still dont stop selling the product. I mean why would they? They are good money from the sales and it only seems morally correct for them to give out a warning to the consumers, the decision to stop the habit is the consumer's only.Similarly, in gambling, the casinos want to stay in the clear, nobody can accuse them for forcing people to gamble - which is a twisted argument itself probably made by woke type people and not level headed ones.
November 25, 2024, 03:45:10 PM
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On the other hand, I am actually not sure that all casinos will implement such a rule, because usually casinos will not care about anything experienced by gamblers, the point is as long as gamblers come with money then the casino will treat them like respected guests, because only with the presence of gamblers will the casino continue to make a profit, and simply put the more irresponsible gamblers there are the greater the casino's profits will be.
Actually, we can see how online casinos with high reputations keep their names good by giving them early guidance so that they know that online casinos have high risks and lose more money. On the other hand, I am actually not sure that all casinos will implement such a rule, because usually casinos will not care about anything experienced by gamblers, the point is as long as gamblers come with money then the casino will treat them like respected guests, because only with the presence of gamblers will the casino continue to make a profit, and simply put the more irresponsible gamblers there are the greater the casino's profits will be.
They have created a ToS that can be read by new casino users, so their responsibilities have been fulfilled with some of these warnings,
but gamblers who are brutal and don't think about the risk, will just log in and then lose everything.
Casinos certainly don't care whether their players lose or win because from those transactions the casino is built and survives.
November 25, 2024, 03:30:57 PM
If suddenly you went on a binge-gambling out of a lack of self-control or something else. For example, you deposit money in rapid succession after a series of losses and the casino management freezes your account. And when you call their customer support, they tell you that your account has been frozen for 3 weeks and the reason why they carried out that measure was because they suspected that you were gambling irresponsibly and decided to take that measure so that you can call yourself back to order, will you feel furious, cuss out, sign out of your account and register on another casino and continue betting. Does even freezing a customer's account curb irresponsible gambling or betting addiction?
It can help to make a small dent, but unless someone really wants to quit gambling and the freezing coincides with that - it's not going to achieve much really. There are hundreds, if not thousands of different gambling sites out there and they will all accept a gambler that is being rejected from one site for any reason. A responsible casino should be monitoring and detecting suspicious increases in gambling, but it is completely counterintuitive to their requirement to work in the best interests of their shareholders, which is often purely focused on increasing profits for the company. There is a trade off to be had with bad publicity, but in the world of gambling it takes a lot to tarnish a brand.
November 25, 2024, 03:21:07 PM
Few months ago I was really addicted to aviator crash games on 1x bet and it was really bad to the point that I lost a lot of money, then I decided to block my account permanently hoping that I wouldn't go back into it, after a couple of days I gave into the temptation and I opened a new account and I went back to square one. Freezing a gamblers account can't curb irresponsible gambling because it's a thing of the mind. The gambler must learn discipline and self-control in order to limit his engagements in it otherwise this is just going to be a complete waste of time.
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