Topic: DragonMint T1 16TH/S halongmining.com - page 103. (Read 87857 times)

Score1more, say what you will. Honestly, we just wanted to make sure our Ecommerce solution was working

Anywho... everything is coming together... and like I keep on saying... more will be revealed in coming weeks.

I've been in touch with Scott and have made plans to visit him early this upcoming week - he's actually way closer to me than I originally thought.

I look forward to meeting Scott and checking out what he and Halong are all about!

As a disclaimer, I don't have any skin in this with Halong - I don't have any preorders with them nor have I been promised/offered anything at all. I've not known of Scott prior to this thread. I'm visiting Scott because of how close he is to me and my interest in the mining field. I've been mostly exclusive with Bitmain in my mining needs in the last few years.

Demand is not an infinite curve.  It's almost laughable to think that Halong is going to beat Bitmain in hash and power consumption with their first product to market; unless there is stolen IP inside the box.

There's one of two reasons to do preorders.  1.  Either they need the funding, which you deny.  or 2.  Lock in customers in case of an emergency (such as a competing product from competitor).

Or both.

Halong cares what their buying customer thinks.

Regarding warranty, there will be an official partnership announcement made in the next few weeks that will put everyone’s minds at ease.

So is it "fuck the customers, we don't care about what they think about us" ?  

How do we suppose trust then that the warranty repairs or anything else would be respected?

I would really like if Halong would go more along your path Scott, instead of what they are doing at the moment.

Halong does not need help with advertising. I personally appreciate your commitment to this community and to your history of making reviews for the public, however, Halong does not need the positive PR. Like I said, if I had it my way, I would send every 4.5-5 user on this entire forum a unit to test for free. But, it’s not my call to make.

I agree you on that Phil.

They don't give appreciation and value for the review made by one of us.

It's basicly free advertising in the case we pay for the miner.

The money they would earn by showing up the miner would be a greater amount
than the money they think they save by hiding it in the closet.

  I think they actually own the gear  and it really exsists.
I think  they believe  this gives them hand  since it really does save power and is the best gear on the market.

My problem is they simply do not understand  that the best hash per watt  does not give them the hand they think they have.
But WTF do I know  I am a middle sized player.

Shame  on them  as I am a good source of publicity for them.
and basically it is a free deal since I will pay for the gear once it arrives.
who believes I would not pay them if they sent it?

I understand that concern about the possibility of spoofing slushpool.

I would certainly be willing for elokk to type some random work name into my slush pool account and then change the worker name accordingly on the miner config page.

Oh yeah! For me it's too much risk to even buy 1 unit (and they don't sell at that small scale). Why do it if I can just buy S9s? Crappy, but known territory. And I'm also with you regarding how much better GPU rigs are. I just try to diversify as much as I can so I throw some ASICs into the mix, but what a painful experience.

The thing is if one connects some S9 looking machine to a pool worker, and the rate becomes 16TH, it could easily be 2 machines doing it and not 1.

All the fellow has to do is connect 1 machine in front of u and send an SMS to a fren to acrivate another machine on the same worker. It is easy to do..

Basically, wat was done in that Slushpool office in that video can be replicated easily infront of u. Simple slide of hand or sorts. Not even difficult. In the halong utube vid, there was a screen showin 4TH being hashed for a few secs. Slushpool showed 16th. It is possible rhat it was 4th + 12th equals 16th here.

So, u should set up your own worker with a complex name and ask him to connect to it and make sure he does not contact anyone once he has seen that worker nane. Otherwise, it can juz be a simple slide of hand trick infront of u. Or perhaps some other way that can detect how many machines are on that worker. Nicehash shows such info??


I hope offordscott understands the concerns

Just my 2 cents

I can't hide it, it's already public. I mean, you haven't seen any unicorns yet?

DragonMint has farm-raised canned unicorn meat for sale.  MOQ is 1000 units.  That'd put a hell of a dent in 10M.

probably not a good idea to be advertising that online

I've seen some unicorns and I've met a big foot.. There's more than one. I also hold ten million dollars worth of assorted coins. Guess which one is true.

Scott - I've reached out to you via text from my local number. I'm about 25 minutes from you and would love to meet up with you.

I've preordered tons of miners in the past -- from the first Avalon batch, theKNC Jupiters, to the most recent batches of S9s. Would love to see what Halong has in store!

Sure  if it is all you own it is stupid to have all you eggs placed in this particular basket.

I would:
- Connect to pool for a couple of hours and capture the hashrate. Slush would work, any known pool
- Measure power use
If you get the right results it means there actually exists a machine with the advertised specs (nothing else is proved at this point)

Probably you won't be allowed, but next thing I'll do is open up this tihng and try to evaluate:
- Are the hashing boards too familiar (i.e. are these just S9 hashing boards with the luckiest ASIC chips pushed to this perf?)
- Count the number of chips, identify the other visible components (pulling a heatsink is obviously not an option unless you knock Scott out or get him really drunk )
If you find uniquely designed boards, still are the power and hashrate per chip unique regarding existing chips? (i.e. bitfury)?
It may or may not be possible to actually prove this thing has newly designed unique chips inside it.

At the end of the day, unless it's entirely obvious that the chips themselves are unique, a working unit doesn't prove that much. But let's say they do have new chips, proving the multi-million investment, you still would need to ask yourself:
Can they actually produce in the promised volume?
What will be the failure rate of the units (terrible like bitmain, or 10 times worse?)
Will they honor any warranty?
Will you receive the unit on time? 1 month late? 1 year late?

So risk is still huge, quite a gamble to buy this.

Good  you have been around for a while. NJ to Wisconsin is too far for me and I am too busy with gpus.
to chase this.

To any asic builder  many of us don't use you and no longer care about your gear.
I preach inclusive of multiple mining gear and coins.  but  preorders and  statements like fuck you junkies won't cut it.

I screen shot my locked 6 threads on gpu mining of non sha-256 coins

those threads exist simply because of asic builders and their sale methods and shit rma methods.


 And a lot of people made a lot of money following those threads.

Crypto-coin mining can exist with zero asic coins so to all sha-256 asic builders  gpus become bigger due to your sales techniques and your service contracts.

Just for the sake of my curiosity please, connect it to Nicehash pool, and look at the dashboard, since from few pools that i used(yea i know NH is not pool), NH dashboard shows rather more correct THs then some others. My question would be: "Does it show 16 THs?" Yes/No

Thanks in advance!