Topic: Enough to consider a casino scam? - page 17. (Read 3471 times)

The most valuable advise is to only try a new casino with smaller amount to see. How their platform works before risking a higher amount in deposit, let say if the casino has an ANN thread here in the forum it could serve as additional security for players since they could contact the team directly or better still read the reviews of other members of the forum to learn more about the casino and how to. Solve some of the little issues that may arise from the activities of the player in the casino.

And with several people complaining about being asked for KYC, it doesn't mean that the casino is suspecting them or the casino is a scam. It is their process that everyone's who's been asked to do, to do it and comply.

How can a casino fail to pass someone who's complying for a KYC? They'll give a reason why you have failed or what you need to comply more for them to pass you.

It's either of the two unless they won't disclose it and that only means that there's something bigger on your end that you have done against them.

I don't think that should be blamed on the casino in any way since the rules are there for the players to read and comply with and if in any situation the players failed read the T&C of a casino before placing bets on them you should be ready to face whatever outcome you will get from the cause of playing in the casino because some casinos will allow you to deposit-play and when you win their kyc demand will be auto triggered only then you become aware that you will need to pass their kyc before you get your withdrawal.

So for ops to have cried out this way shows that he fucked up by not reading the whole casino terms of service to be able to know if they are kyc free or not, the importance of reading the terms and conditions of a casino goes beyond just kyc or withdrawals but also to know if you are allowed to use VPN or not.  All this will help the player to remain safe in the casino while enjoying the game's sections.

And if the ANN threads on this forum don't show that the casino is an honest casino and lots of people doubt it, we don't need to try it because it's been explained by the people here. We already have many trusted casinos on this forum and good reputations, so there's no need to look for or try casinos whose services are still in doubt. In playing gambling, we need to find a casino that suits us and choosing a casino based on what other people say doesn't mean it's right for us. We have to look for it until we find a casino that we think is suitable.

Whenever I see a casino and it's new or it's a casino since it has time, and it has promotions or things like that, I read its terms and that's something I rarely do, but I do it because I don't like to go through bad times that come play and win, which I rarely win and if I want to withdraw and they won't let me it's something that bothers me a lot, and I won't go to that casino again, and if I meet the requirements, I do the KYC and they won't accept me to withdraw my money, because for me it is simply a scam casino, neither more nor less.

Whatever OP or his close one has gone through doesn't specifically make the casino a scam, even if the casino doesn't show it in the beginning or ask for KYC for deposits or even small withdrawals but if you opt for a bigger withdrawal, you are subject to KYC in almost any gambling platform that has a license and is operating by complying with all the rules and regulations like AML, etc.

Casinos have some things that they need to take care of, and fighting money laundering and avoiding it to happen within their platforms is probably at the top of their priority list, so they are not wrong in asking for KYC, and if someone fails to pass KYC, they might be the one who is wrong and not the platform.

That's exactly what we should do. Whenever money is involved we have to be more cautious.
When it comes to depositing money on any site we should definitely look into their policies.
If things go haywire then the fault shouldn't be at our end and only then we can blame the site and raise an accusation against them.

sometimes every gambler has a different character and maybe the OP is one of the gamblers who maintains his anonymity so maybe the OP doesn't care a little about KYC. indeed, at this time almost all big and popular casinos will definitely ask for KYC when they want to withdraw large funds from the platform and of course we also have to comply with these regulations so that we can continue to withdraw our funds.
for me no worries as long as we KYC at a big reputable casino.

And it happens to me oftentimes even though I know that it only takes a few minutes to read the rules. However, in today's situation, we are also aware that KYC is somewhat mandatory in major gambling sites especially when withdrawing huge amounts. So I think OP should not be surprised by such a thing, he should able to anticipate it even if it was not asked already. Because of now, it was hard to assume that there are sites that don't require KYC as they are also protecting their reputation when it comes to money laundering and any illegal activities. 

There's this common thing many gamblers made as mistakes which is their inpatient in reading each casino's terms and conditions before enrollment, gamblers then follow up to agitate on any unusual encounter with casinos whereby such does not work in their favour but would have been well stated on their policy, another thing is not only joining a new casino that matters but having reliability in them not to turn scam base on our research about them and their past experience with other gamblers, all these were what should be table together and looked into in other to have a nice gambling experience and not to fall into hands of scammers in gambling.

Going by your opinion, I think it is better one reads the terms and conditions of a casino before getting involved with the casino. In as much as everyone is trying to avoid kyc so it is the casino too would want to know who they are dealing with in accordance to their local law. For them not to default, they demand for your identity to be in the safe side if government agencies comes for them. So it would be in your best interest to either identify with them or you leave them but you rushing to identifying with them as a result of their bonus without going through the terms and conditions of Service is a big blunder and therefore if they withhold your funds demanding for your identity verification, you should comply as well because you signed up for it.

This reminds me of some ICOs in the past. Everything was easy on regards to sending the money, but getting the token listed, sending it to the users and basically being able to sell your coins, particularly if you bounty-hunted, was nearly impossible. It seems that some sites are following this pattern and yes, it is a scam IMO if you want to see it that way.

I had my fair share of strange actions by bookmakers just to slow me down.

One of them for example, I don't want to name it. I was down quite some money on that site and finally had a stretch of some weeks where I won really everything. I remember well, at one point I won 24 out of my last 26 bets. So I recovered a high % of my losses in that time.

I decided to withdraw some, which usually takes 1-4 hours, and went to bed.

Next morning no money in my wallet and a message from them my account has be "selected for a routine security check" . At that point I was with this site for 2 years, always deposited/withdrew from the same wallet, always used the same IP, always bet on the same sports. But now that I finally won some money back they do this. Of course it only had impact on my withdrawals, I could still deposit, still make bets, just not play poker because you could collude with somebody losing you money to that person intentionally to withdraw.

Anyway, this "random check" took 3 weeks, and we are talking about a 5 digit amount stuck on the site. They didn't ask for KYC, just I should wait.

I suppose they tried to trigger me into making more bets so I could lose it back, but that didn't happen.

After all those weeks they finally cleared my account, guess they couldn't come up with an excuse to not pay me. I also didn't get any explanation or apology. As another fxxx you in my face they limited me, even though I was still down money overall.

Needless to say that I withdrew all my funds and moved on, these kind of tactics are just ridiculous. Of course it's not a scam but it was definitely shady.

Isn't it crazy that con artists have created entire websites dedicated to parting you from your money? They seem to care little about doing the right thing or playing by the rules.

If you get involved with one of these dubious businesses, they may force you do anything to get your hands on your winnings. They seem determined to drive you to the point of giving up, at which point they will take your reward money.

But don't let them trick you! They're obviously not playing by the rules if they're asking for your firstborn child or a kidney as ransom. It's time to stand up for what you deserve.

In my early years of engagement with gambling casinos, I often disregard reading the Terms and Conditions but upon reading too many accusations and cases where the player is ignorant of the Casino policy, I now always read the platform's policy, especially the KYC conditions and if ever I see their Terms and Conditions to be reasonable, I will continue my registration but if it is vague I'll just skip the platform to avoid future problems.  It is really essential to read the Casino policy on deposits, bonuses, and withdrawals so that we won't get caught unaware of things that should have been avoided if we have learned the casino policy before depositing and playing on the platform.

If you are that a player who do play up fair and square on a platform and then you do suddenly hit up some huge amounts or win because of extreme luck then if you are dealing with a legit and non shady platform then
you would really be getting paid right away but if you are dealing up with something which it isnt been known or popular then it would be no shocking that they would really be asking something like this on which
it do really sucks and might be resulting into huge stress and pain in the ass if you couldnt be able to get that winning. If they do ask out for some KYC then for sure you would be having no
doubts on complying it but after that if they wont really be still releasing then you do know on what you are dealing with.

What I think about this is the Following, if a player complies with his KYC he must give all the priorities and facilities in the casino, it does not Make sense that he can back out his Process or have it repeated again, with the simple the fact of agreeing to do it and doing it is a profit for the casino and it is one more customer that does not leave, so why not Value that? If they Show up that Complies with the kyc and then they don't Comply with their deal, the casino is a Scam ,Because they will Suspend the Withdrawal and Nothing can be done.

Exactly if the ops pass the KYC but are refused by the casino without any explanation or note to state what part of the document was not accepted that is a clear violation and a scam act from the casino, just as I said in the previous comment, we must read through a casino T&C to be sure of what term and conditions we are up against before making an account.

Also, check the online reviews and also take note of that casino that has an ANN thread here in the forum before playing on them.

Maybe we better think that @OP has forgotten it even though he has re-sent KYC. He doesn't need to play there if the casino is proven to be a scam casino. But if the KYC is refused, there should be info from the casino about what to do and the casino shouldn't be too complicated for players who want to do KYC and agree to it immediately. If refused, this adds to the suspicion that the casino is really a scam. Or maybe in this case, there is a misunderstanding between @OP and the casino so the problem cannot be resolved.