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June 08, 2023, 03:00:00 PM
Sparta and Twente are playing play-off today, and currently Sparta is in the lead 1:0, somewhere unexpected for me, but they have two matches to play, and Twente chances are still better to win this play-off for European spot
nervous match, Twente controlled match till penalty for Sparta, and now is down, will be interesting to see if they can make something in last 30 minutes, if there is no second match, I would put something on them to win, but as there is re-match, maybe just play on more goals tonight
Game ended 1:1 and final minutes were really painful for Sparta. They were so close to go with minimal advantage to second leg, but Twente scored on 93rd minute. Sparta goalkeeper actions weren't confident in that moment - when you go out for such ball, you must take it.
Twente were favorites, but 1:1 isn't bad result for them too. They have great chances to solve everything at, home, while for Sparta it will be very difficult.
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June 08, 2023, 02:20:33 PM
Sparta and Twente are playing play-off today, and currently Sparta is in the lead 1:0, somewhere unexpected for me, but they have two matches to play, and Twente chances are still better to win this play-off for European spot
nervous match, Twente controlled match till penalty for Sparta, and now is down, will be interesting to see if they can make something in last 30 minutes, if there is no second match, I would put something on them to win, but as there is re-match, maybe just play on more goals tonight
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June 08, 2023, 12:05:54 PM
The biggest victory for Feyenoord is that the trainer will stay. He could still go Spurs but then you don't play CL. How good is Feyenorod if they play in the CL? I think they might be the favorites to win the new title in the league, but who will straighten things out at Ajax next season? A difficult task for any trainer. There are not many people who can help Ajax out in this position. In any case, Heitinga is leaving.

Normally Ajax always has a much stronger selection than Feyenoord and also than PSV. The trainers made the difference. But not only Ajax's trainer is gone, VanNistelrooy has also resigned himself 1 round before the end of the competition. I don't think it's really a good time to hand in your resignation. Fred Rutten will not stay on as coach, but both Ajax and PSV both suddenly have to look for a new trainer. Peter Bosz has often been taken and now that Edwin van der Sar is gone, the way seems to be clear for Bosz to go to Ajax, right?

It's normal for Ajax as a club to find themselves in a difficult position. They were very poor at the beginning of the season but they got better latter on. It happens to every team, it doesn't mean they wont bounce back. All they need to do is go back to their drawing board, get the right coach and players and they will be good.
Feyenoord wont be able to win the champions league. I feel they might make it to the round of 16 if they are lucky. I'm just happy the league would be competitive next season because all the team will be ready.
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June 08, 2023, 11:04:23 AM
Today Playoff final 1st leg for spot in Conference league between Sparta and Twente will be played. Twente didn't had any problems against Heerenveen and today they're significant favorites, even despite that they're playing away. I wouldn't understimate Sparta much and I doubt that Twente will manage to solve things in 1st leg already.

Twente does have a better record against Sparta Rotterdam as a whole, but overall, if we look at their H2H this season, Sparta Rotterdam was able to provide resistance to Twente with 2 draws, the first 1 - 1 and the second is 3 - 3. From these results, it looks like we will also see an even match between Sparta Rotterdam and Twente, moreover this is a play-off match, the two teams will of course be more serious in their game.

Yes but i dont think they can hold this so much more, Twente its clearly a much better team than Sparta, and in a two games leg, Twente its gonna prevail.
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June 08, 2023, 05:35:04 AM
Today Playoff final 1st leg for spot in Conference league between Sparta and Twente will be played. Twente didn't had any problems against Heerenveen and today they're significant favorites, even despite that they're playing away. I wouldn't understimate Sparta much and I doubt that Twente will manage to solve things in 1st leg already.

Twente does have a better record against Sparta Rotterdam as a whole, but overall, if we look at their H2H this season, Sparta Rotterdam was able to provide resistance to Twente with 2 draws, the first 1 - 1 and the second is 3 - 3. From these results, it looks like we will also see an even match between Sparta Rotterdam and Twente, moreover this is a play-off match, the two teams will of course be more serious in their game.
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June 08, 2023, 04:20:42 AM
Today Playoff final 1st leg for spot in Conference league between Sparta and Twente will be played. Twente didn't had any problems against Heerenveen and today they're significant favorites, even despite that they're playing away. I wouldn't understimate Sparta much and I doubt that Twente will manage to solve things in 1st leg already.
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June 04, 2023, 03:16:42 PM
Xavi Simons has saved PSV to a certain extent this season. It also didn't matter much if PSV had just finished 3rd this season and then you would have also missed out on the placement for the CL. I also don't think PSV has the opportunity to keep Simons. Arsenal have already signed up and other clubs will undoubtedly follow soon. And then? Then PSV is called a big problem. Think the choice to appoint van Nistelrooij as head coach of the first team was a wrong choice. An icon for the club as a footballer does not mean that you are also a good trainer. A big name will have to come to Ajax as a trainer, otherwise you will have another dramatic season.
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June 04, 2023, 01:30:47 PM
The biggest victory for Feyenoord is that the trainer will stay. He could still go Spurs but then you don't play CL. How good is Feyenorod if they play in the CL? I think they might be the favorites to win the new title in the league, but who will straighten things out at Ajax next season? A difficult task for any trainer. There are not many people who can help Ajax out in this position. In any case, Heitinga is leaving.

Normally Ajax always has a much stronger selection than Feyenoord and also than PSV. The trainers made the difference. But not only Ajax's trainer is gone, VanNistelrooy has also resigned himself 1 round before the end of the competition. I don't think it's really a good time to hand in your resignation. Fred Rutten will not stay on as coach, but both Ajax and PSV both suddenly have to look for a new trainer. Peter Bosz has often been taken and now that Edwin van der Sar is gone, the way seems to be clear for Bosz to go to Ajax, right?
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June 04, 2023, 12:38:59 PM
The biggest victory for Feyenoord is that the trainer will stay. He could still go Spurs but then you don't play CL. How good is Feyenorod if they play in the CL? I think they might be the favorites to win the new title in the league, but who will straighten things out at Ajax next season? A difficult task for any trainer. There are not many people who can help Ajax out in this position. In any case, Heitinga is leaving.
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June 02, 2023, 05:00:15 AM
There is no doubt about Ajax failure in this season and their worst performance in last 14 years as well but here we need to check few ground realities as well which will give us better view about this result with hopefully things will be better in future even now situation is very tough because Feyenoord will keep this momentum and PSV and Ajax have to increase their quality if they want to have better results.

Ajax lost coach and few top quality players to Manchester United in early weeks of this season and from here things gone in wrong way even they have done good, but this was surely not as par fans were expecting now they have enough funds which can allow them for having better results and good coach as well which can bring better things in future.

The departures in the winter at Ajax were too much, as you write, key players and coache. Somehow I had the feeling that the Ajax management was sure they could easily get through it, they were a bit arrogant and thought Ajax could easily compensate, but then it wasn't so. Of course they earned over 100 million, but the Champions League start with > 20 million has not been achieved.

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June 01, 2023, 04:10:57 PM
Twente made serious step in first leg beating Heerenveen away 1:2. It should be painful for Heerenveen to concede goal 93rd minute, now their task becomes very difficult.
While Sparta made little upset by beating Utrecht away, also 1:2. They were even leading 0:2 and Utrecht scored their goal only in 2nd half. IMO, result don't reflect game much, Utrecht had more chances today. But taking whole season picture, Sparta had very solid season and it would be interesting if they would get chance to play in Conference league.
2nd leg games will be played very soon, on Saturday already.
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June 01, 2023, 03:08:39 PM
We did not get the expected performance from Ajax in this match. Ajax has scored a lot of goals this season as in previous seasons. And they don't concede too many goals. However, Ajax have won just 20 of their 34 matches this season. Ajax have scored 86 goals this season. League champions Feyenoord scored 81 goals. Ajax should balance their performance.

Next season Ajax will definitely be playing for the title. PSV, Alkmaar and Feyenoord will also be looking to win the title. So far we have only seen the dominance of Ajax in the Eredivisie. But several teams will be aiming for the league title next season. It won't be easy for Ajax to become champions.
Ajax were simply not as dominant as in previous years and conceded too many goals, especially in the crucial games, such as against PSV. They conceded twice as many goals as last season, you can't win the championship like that, especially Feyenoord having a great season.

Things are happening at Ajax and they know they need to strengthen their defence and they will invest in that i think. Next season could be another three-way battle for the title, but can Feyenoord produce a second outstanding season?
There is no doubt about Ajax failure in this season and their worst performance in last 14 years as well but here we need to check few ground realities as well which will give us better view about this result with hopefully things will be better in future even now situation is very tough because Feyenoord will keep this momentum and PSV and Ajax have to increase their quality if they want to have better results.

Ajax lost coach and few top quality players to Manchester United in early weeks of this season and from here things gone in wrong way even they have done good, but this was surely not as par fans were expecting now they have enough funds which can allow them for having better results and good coach as well which can bring better things in future.

Now in near future, we will have improvement in few other teams as well as AZ Alkmaar which is also trying their best for better results and surely now with this challenge could be tough and competition is not going to easy for them as well.
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June 01, 2023, 12:36:22 PM
We did not get the expected performance from Ajax in this match. Ajax has scored a lot of goals this season as in previous seasons. And they don't concede too many goals. However, Ajax have won just 20 of their 34 matches this season. Ajax have scored 86 goals this season. League champions Feyenoord scored 81 goals. Ajax should balance their performance.

Next season Ajax will definitely be playing for the title. PSV, Alkmaar and Feyenoord will also be looking to win the title. So far we have only seen the dominance of Ajax in the Eredivisie. But several teams will be aiming for the league title next season. It won't be easy for Ajax to become champions.
Ajax were simply not as dominant as in previous years and conceded too many goals, especially in the crucial games, such as against PSV. They conceded twice as many goals as last season, you can't win the championship like that, especially Feyenoord having a great season.
Things are happening at Ajax and they know they need to strengthen their defence and they will invest in that i think. Next season could be another three-way battle for the title, but can Feyenoord produce a second outstanding season?

Ajax and PSV have been somewhat weaker this season than in previous seasons. Their performance was quite erratic. The start of the season saw Ajax drop points in several matches and fall far behind. And Feyenoord's performance was very consistent. Feyenoord have been able to win the title thanks to their consistent performance. However, the Eredivisie league is expected to be more competitive in the coming season. Along with Ajax and PSV, Feyenoord will also fight for the title. And so the possibility of Ajax's dominance in the next season seems less likely to me.
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June 01, 2023, 03:20:06 AM
We did not get the expected performance from Ajax in this match. Ajax has scored a lot of goals this season as in previous seasons. And they don't concede too many goals. However, Ajax have won just 20 of their 34 matches this season. Ajax have scored 86 goals this season. League champions Feyenoord scored 81 goals. Ajax should balance their performance.

Next season Ajax will definitely be playing for the title. PSV, Alkmaar and Feyenoord will also be looking to win the title. So far we have only seen the dominance of Ajax in the Eredivisie. But several teams will be aiming for the league title next season. It won't be easy for Ajax to become champions.

Ajax were simply not as dominant as in previous years and conceded too many goals, especially in the crucial games, such as against PSV. They conceded twice as many goals as last season, you can't win the championship like that, especially Feyenoord having a great season.

Things are happening at Ajax and they know they need to strengthen their defence and they will invest in that i think. Next season could be another three-way battle for the title, but can Feyenoord produce a second outstanding season?
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Nothing changed in the last round, neither Ajax nor AZ could win. I wouldn't have expected such a poor performance from Ajax, but even the win wouldn't have changed anything, as PSV also won. All in all, a disappointing season for Ajax.

Ajax have to change a lot for the next season.

We did not get the expected performance from Ajax in this match. Ajax has scored a lot of goals this season as in previous seasons. And they don't concede too many goals. However, Ajax have won just 20 of their 34 matches this season. Ajax have scored 86 goals this season. League champions Feyenoord scored 81 goals. Ajax should balance their performance.

Next season Ajax will definitely be playing for the title. PSV, Alkmaar and Feyenoord will also be looking to win the title. So far we have only seen the dominance of Ajax in the Eredivisie. But several teams will be aiming for the league title next season. It won't be easy for Ajax to become champions.
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we have play-offs tomorrow, first matches
Utrecht is playing Sparta at home, and should get a win, but overall it will be a tough duel that can go on any side to reach finals

Twente is a bit of favorite against Heerenveen, even in first match, and especially to pass into finals, but they should be careful to retain their game until the end, goals are probably better choice than going for Twente in first match
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Ajax is the most popular Dutch team among football fans all over the world. Losing out on their pursuit to finish the season in the top two position of the Dutch League means they won't be playing I nthe UEFA Champions League and that I think will sure affect some of their players decision to stay and play for the badge of the club or leave to clubs that'll offer champions league football.
Whatever happens in the summer, Ajax will surely bounce back to where they belong come next season and that only will be possible if they sort out the main issues that stopped the club from winning a major trophy this season and fix them

This is a major risk for the smaller leagues in particular. I think with Feyenoord and PSV Eindhoven they are still well represented, but for a club like Ajax to not have the possibility to present themselves in the Champions League is a big disadvantage especially since they bring out a lot of young talents who then could quickly decide against staying with Ajax.

They also have much less money to offer if they only play in the Europa League. It is about 1/4th if you compare Europa League to the Champions League prize money and that is quite significant for Ajax. Maybe we are seeing a shit in the Eredivisie now and Feyenoord and PSV will take the lead in the future as well.
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The bad comments about ajax have not given rest:

Ajax miss UCL after suffering worst finish in 14 years after Erik ten Hag's departure | ESPN FC



Edwin van der Sar quits as Ajax director after disappointing season

it's a fact that ajax won't go to the champions league, i even at the beginning thought it wasn't necessary to make much drama about this very sad event, but it's hard not to make a lot of drama about it when even in the last one ajax just went humiliatingly defeated, if the fans were already trying to forget that ajax did not do well this season they were forced to have to remember that because ajax lost in their last game and it was a game in which they conceded 3 goals and only managed score only one goal

ajax player hurt fan:

Ajax player Berghuis gives a bystander a firm blow at the abandoned FC Twente stadium | Football

and next we have this: 

Ajax fines Steven Berghuis for hitting a fan after season-ending loss

clearly this poor performance has affected everyone in the team, but the question now is to think about correcting the mistakes next season, ajax need to hire some good coach and players if they want to get back to being as strong as they were in the past, and honestly that will not be a task easy, I say that because ajax had already built an image in people of being a team that constantly scored a lot of goals, ajax was like bayern in the bundesliga, these teams hardly played and the bookmakers put odds of @ 1.40 on the market over 2.5 goals, so any coach who is in charge of ajax feels pressure, because if he is not able to bring good results

and he is not able to make the team score many goals then he will be fired, the fans will ask him to be fired, that's why the ajax board needs to be very careful when hiring a coach, Johnny Heitinga did what he could for the team, but anyone can see that ajax needs a great coach


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Nothing changed in the last round, neither Ajax nor AZ could win. I wouldn't have expected such a poor performance from Ajax, but even the win wouldn't have changed anything, as PSV also won. All in all, a disappointing season for Ajax.

Ajax have to change a lot for the next season.
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Feyenoord had been champions for a long time, maybe that's why they suffered the 2nd defeat of the entire season, there was nothing more at stake. Xavi Simons saved PSV and because of him they now play Cl. But it was also a good year for PSV, won the cup, won the super cup and placed 2nd and therefore qualified for the CL. it didn't matter much if Ajax should have played the Conefgrence league. They will still be somewhat relieved at Ajax, but how can you be relieved when you finish 3rd and have not won any prizes at all? Feyenord is undoubtedly the big winner, And arne slot also remains. A top result in all respects.

yes, Ajax will somehow be relieved with a 3rd place, although they now miss the qualification for the CL. Surely that should also be a reason for players to look for another club for next season? If Heitinga stays head coach, then we can be pretty sure things won't get much better for next season. You will have to get someone with the necessary experience, who knows how to build a good team with good players. I don't think Louis van Gaal is interested in coaching Ajax again. Arne Slot at Feyenoord, that is the basis for a new and perhaps even more successful season than it has been the last 2 seasons.
Ajax is the most popular Dutch team among football fans all over the world. Losing out on their pursuit to finish the season in the top two position of the Dutch League means they won't be playing I nthe UEFA Champions League and that I think will sure affect some of their players decision to stay and play for the badge of the club or leave to clubs that'll offer champions league football.
Whatever happens in the summer, Ajax will surely bounce back to where they belong come next season and that only will be possible if they sort out the main issues that stopped the club from winning a major trophy this season and fix them
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