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congrats to Feyenoord, way to go to get title, they have winning strike and confirmed as Champions two rounds before the end

PSV is close to secure position two, and Ajax will have to fight AZ till the end
what happened in Groningen is a real shame for Ere divisie, and it is not isolated incident this season, they should do something about that
Feyenoord have really looked extraordinary this season, even up to matchday 33/34 they have only lost 1 time, they really deserve to be champions. Gimenez has played quite well in almost every match that Feyenoord has played, he has managed to collect 15 goals so far. What's interesting for me to see is the battle for position 3, it seems that the chance for Ajax to shift Alkmaar, who is currently in position 3, is quite large.
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Feyenoord, on the other hand, has now officially declared its championship.Although the point difference between its rivals has closed in the last weeks, Feyenoord, which did not allow it to close this difference by winning the matches with its rivals, definitely deserved the championship by playing good football since the beginning of the season.They should be congratulated.In a league with teams like Ajax, PSV, on top of that, AZ Alkmaar also reached the championship by beating these teams despite being in form this year. Ajax started to experience low form after selling their players one by one.It will take time to replace the players they sold because their infrastructure is a good team and they train good players every year.Let's see next year, I think we will watch a more competitive league here.Congratulations again to Feyenoord who became the champion 2 weeks before the end of the league.
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congrats to Feyenoord, way to go to get title, they have winning strike and confirmed as Champions two rounds before the end

PSV is close to secure position two, and Ajax will have to fight AZ till the end
what happened in Groningen is a real shame for Ere divisie, and it is not isolated incident this season, they should do something about that
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It is actually nice to see some different champions after a domination by one team for many years. It has been a solid performance by Feyenoord side throughout the season really. They have lost only once so far. PSV also had a superb form in the recent times but it wasn't enough to keep up with Feyenoord. And Feyenoord concentrated on the league title completely after being eliminated by Roma in the Europa League. Otherwise maybe they could have had more problems on balancing both of them.

And of course Ajax have been the most disappointing team of the season indeed. They made big changes in the squad and it looks like this affected them negatively.
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Congrats to Feyenoord for winning Eeredivisie for the first time since 2016/17. Fully deserved it, despite that throughout the season many people were quite sceptical about their chances. Today's game against Go Ahead Eagles looked like celebration party.
Groningen -Ajax game was abandoned after already relegated Groningen fans started throwing flares and made pitch invasion. I already lost count how many similar accidents we had in Netherlands this season. Fderation have to do something to solve this problem.
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I don't know exactly where it went wrong either. It is clear that things have become less when coach Erik Ten Hag left for Manchester United last year. And then you also got the situation around Marc Overmars, that may have been a push and gave little confidence in the leadership. Huntelaar is too inexperienced and van der Sar is not capable enough to lead this club. How could you function without a technical director for a while if this was the core of your success? Ajax has invested capital in the last year and it has actually only gone worse. With the right trainer you can get this going. Someone like Peter Bosz seems to me to be the right person now.
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Feyenoord has officially become national champion today in a flawless season. How much force majeure can you have? It's a bit like Bayern Munich in a good year. Ajax and PSV managed to keep up until the winter break, after which a whole metamorphosis took place at Feyenoord in a positive way. And now it will be exciting for Ajax whether they will still qualify for the EL. If not, Edwin van der Sar would leave, at least that was his own promise. No doubt he will come back to that. Speaking of Ajax, they may have the most money in the field than the entire top 10 together.
There was indeed only 1 team that deserved to win. They have also only lost 1x in the entire competition, which other European top team can say that? I can't remember a team losing so few times. Even Ajax in its best years always lost a few times, except for a phenomenal year when they competed against Roda JC and when they won the world cup. I thought they were undefeated champions then. Ajax has made a very deep fall, I wonder if they will come out of it. For starters, they should fire Van Der Sar.
There is no doubt about Ajax fall down in this season as they sell their top ranked players without any solid backup which hurt them badly now they are also out of the Champions League for the next season because PSV is already sealed their second spot after their hard fought win against Sittard which take early lead and give tough fight to PSV for win this match and settled for the second spot in league table.

Now in next season we will have few good teams will be available for the title race with Ajax could be team to watch because they will now allow any team for having things like this season hopefully Feyenoord will also keep this momentum, and we will have another exciting season in Dutch league.
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this means that Feyenoord will have more money to sign more players, which means that they will be able to remain strong to the point that they will also win the league next season

really doubt this, I think that Feyenoord has been one season wonder, strike is far from expected
Ajax/PSV have long been on top, and I think one from those two will regain title next season, this one seems as already finished

could be that Feyenoord pass group stage in CL next season, but doubt that as well, even top teams from Germany/France have troubles to pass group stage when accidentally take title or group stage positions (Lille, Eintracht, Marseille or similar, but Leicester as well)

ajax are at rock bottom and I doubt very much that their situation will improve much next season unless Feyenoord sell their good players and drop a lot in performance next season which can happen as teams tend to get greedy when they win the league, they want to get as much profit as possible, but they end up forgetting about next season, but if Feyenoord keep their squad and sign more good players then they might be able to win the league again. As for PSV, they are a good team with a very good attack, I believe that if they keep their squad then next time they can also be a strong candidate to win the league

but about ajax, I honestly don't understand how they fell so much, now they are even in the fourth position of the table, this was one of their worst campaigns and the question here will be how they will do to rise, will the problem be with the coach and players ? what manager would be best suited to return ajax to dominance in the league? and how many good players might they be able to buy? we have to see in the transfer window what the ajax management will do, if they don't make big signings then I don't expect any good changes from them next season
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Feyenoord has officially become national champion today in a flawless season. How much force majeure can you have? It's a bit like Bayern Munich in a good year. Ajax and PSV managed to keep up until the winter break, after which a whole metamorphosis took place at Feyenoord in a positive way. And now it will be exciting for Ajax whether they will still qualify for the EL. If not, Edwin van der Sar would leave, at least that was his own promise. No doubt he will come back to that. Speaking of Ajax, they may have the most money in the field than the entire top 10 together.

There was indeed only 1 team that deserved to win. They have also only lost 1x in the entire competition, which other European top team can say that? I can't remember a team losing so few times. Even Ajax in its best years always lost a few times, except for a phenomenal year when they competed against Roda JC and when they won the world cup. I thought they were undefeated champions then. Ajax has made a very deep fall, I wonder if they will come out of it. For starters, they should fire Van Der Sar.
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Really good for Feyenoord to again win the Eredivisie, the last time they win was in the 2016/17 season and before that one was really far behind in 1998/9, so if we see this number they cut off the gap between time spend to win again.

This its how you can start to develop a serious project, winning time to time, without big windows of time between wins. This make a team trusted and the players wants more to join the project, like happens in Ajax, when you join you know you are gonna fight for the tittle and for a surprise in europe. Now Feyenoord needs to do the same.

So congratulations and keep working!.
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Feyenoord has officially become national champion today in a flawless season. How much force majeure can you have? It's a bit like Bayern Munich in a good year. Ajax and PSV managed to keep up until the winter break, after which a whole metamorphosis took place at Feyenoord in a positive way. And now it will be exciting for Ajax whether they will still qualify for the EL. If not, Edwin van der Sar would leave, at least that was his own promise. No doubt he will come back to that. Speaking of Ajax, they may have the most money in the field than the entire top 10 together.
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I think Ajax its gonna heads up the next season without problem they have a good base, and with some more reinforcement and a good manager theya re gonna be again dominants.

I dont see a crumbling like the PSV have for example after their amazing seasons in europe on the earlies 2000 until mid 2000, after that they never recover the spirit and they keep floating in UEL and from sometimes in UCL but without so much sucess.

A lot of things need to change this is one of their worst seasons so far and they need fresh new players and a better coach next season. This season was really bad for them and it is still a question if they will play champions league next season. Still few games left for them only to secure that ucl place.
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Feyenoord will become champion this weekend. What a huge display of power to be champion with 3 games in advance. Something will have to happen at Ajax in the very short term, otherwise things will go completely wrong there. Marc Overmars had everything under control, except for his own hormone system. I don't know if Arne Slot will stay next season, the fans of Feyenoord are begging him to stay, but can that compete with the big money from the rich English and German clubs?
For the battle for 2nd place it doesn't seem exciting to me anymore since PSV is 3 points ahead and should therefore lose. Ajax won't win any prizes this year, which is a big mistake for a big club like Ajax.
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I think Ajax its gonna heads up the next season without problem they have a good base, and with some more reinforcement and a good manager theya re gonna be again dominants.

I dont see a crumbling like the PSV have for example after their amazing seasons in europe on the earlies 2000 until mid 2000, after that they never recover the spirit and they keep floating in UEL and from sometimes in UCL but without so much sucess.
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There are 3 weeks left of the season and Feyenoord has managed to maintain the point difference with its rival.There is now 8 points difference with its closest rival PSV and this is a difference that is difficult to close.Feyenoord will officially declare its championship if it gets 2 draws or one more win.Its opponent is in the play-out pot and this match was important for them.

Feyenoord will not be able to take the title away, they only have to win the match on Sunday, if PSV do not win a draw will be enough, probably Feyenoord are already preparing for the championship celebration.

Edwin van der Sar (director of Ajax) has indicated that he will leave if Ajax has to play the Conference League. Would he fulfill that promise? Several names have already been mentioned for Ajax's new trainership, but which one is concrete? There appears to be some old soreness between van der Sar and Peter Bosz, and that seems to be the main reason that he will not be a coach of Ajax. What Marc Overmars did was of course scandalous, but maybe it is a good step to bring him back. If he wants to leave Antwerp, of course, because he enjoys working there. Ajax is a house of cards that collapses every time, they can save the season somewhat by qualifying for the EL, but that is also a bad performance.

Ajax was dominant for years now, only the departures after last season and the coach in winter was just too much. Not even Ajax could compensate for that, but with good purchases in the summer, money should be there enough, they can definitely play for the title again in the Eredivisie, I can say too little about the current coach, but will he possibly be replaced?

But clearly a disappointing season by Ajax's standards.
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Feyenoord will be putting a stop to Ajax's four seasons championship reign in Netherland Eredivisie. It will be exciting to see Feyenoord lift this title after waiting for the past 5 years since 2017. From the match results recorded so far, it is enough to say that This season doesn't seem to favour Ajax.  Their performance against AZ Alkmaar coupled with 5 points behind PSV all summarised that Ajax will be ending the season in second place. Good enough they have qualified for next season's champions league as usual. Though still needs a few more wins in order not to be taken off guard by Alkmaar.
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this means that Feyenoord will have more money to sign more players, which means that they will be able to remain strong to the point that they will also win the league next season

really doubt this, I think that Feyenoord has been one season wonder, strike is far from expected
Ajax/PSV have long been on top, and I think one from those two will regain title next season, this one seems as already finished

could be that Feyenoord pass group stage in CL next season, but doubt that as well, even top teams from Germany/France have troubles to pass group stage when accidentally take title or group stage positions (Lille, Eintracht, Marseille or similar, but Leicester as well)
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well, everything seems to be going as I predicted, PSV will finish second as I predicted before, unfortunately this season ajax is very bad, I don't know if this has something to do with not having many good players this season or if it has something to do with the coach but it is a fact that ajax this season are unrecognizable, and even quite regrettable. according to this article I read:

This means that next season the Eredivisie champion and the runner-up will qualify for the group stage of the Champions League.

source: https://nltimes.nl/2023/04/14/extra-champions-league-spot-netherlands-sportings-loss

this means that this season PSV will have to work hard to get a place in the champions league group stage, so even if they finish in second place they will still have a long way to go to enter the champions league, and ajax can only conform to the Europa League, next season the first two teams will already be guaranteed that they will enter the Champions League and the third will still have to play preliminary rounds. not bad, ajax in this deplorable state also won't make it far in the europa league unless there are radical changes in the squad, which i haven't seen any big signs yet that will happen and another big problem for ajax is that the teams that qualify for champions league start soon with 15.64 million euros as compensation

this means that Feyenoord will have more money to sign more players, which means that they will be able to remain strong to the point that they will also win the league next season and if PSV also manage to enter the champions league in the group stage then they will also be good budget that they can manage to get some good player and with that they will remain at a good level, which would allow them to finish at the top or in the second position, ajax is in a situation where they will have to make changes to be able to compete with the two teams in the top and since ajax won't have money coming from the champions league, they could only count on money that they give in the europa league

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Edwin van der Sar (director of Ajax) has indicated that he will leave if Ajax has to play the Conference League. Would he fulfill that promise? Several names have already been mentioned for Ajax's new trainership, but which one is concrete? There appears to be some old soreness between van der Sar and Peter Bosz, and that seems to be the main reason that he will not be a coach of Ajax. What Marc Overmars did was of course scandalous, but maybe it is a good step to bring him back. If he wants to leave Antwerp, of course, because he enjoys working there. Ajax is a house of cards that collapses every time, they can save the season somewhat by qualifying for the EL, but that is also a bad performance.
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There are 3 weeks left of the season and Feyenoord has managed to maintain the point difference with its rival.There is now 8 points difference with its closest rival PSV and this is a difference that is difficult to close.Feyenoord will officially declare its championship if it gets 2 draws or one more win.Its opponent is in the play-out pot and this match was important for them.
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