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legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
January 10, 2014, 05:10:08 PM

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What are they?

Why the sad face? not enough? I agree.

They are not NVidia, that's for sure.

Where I live Radeons are out of stock almost everywhere, like in most places I guess. Anyway, two days ago I saw that an online retailer had presumably just been restocked, since they had 50+ Gigabyte 280X Windforce available, but poof, now they're already gone! I managed to get an order in though, so got two delivered today! Smiley

Question is, how will this influence AMD Q4 earnings to be released later this month...?

If AMD were paying attention to why their sales are going up, could they not designed a faster Asic style chip on the GPU card so it can be used for everything else plus mining.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
January 10, 2014, 05:02:09 PM

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What are they?

Why the sad face? not enough? I agree.

They are not NVidia, that's for sure.

Where I live Radeons are out of stock almost everywhere, like in most places I guess. Anyway, two days ago I saw that an online retailer had presumably just been restocked, since they had 50+ Gigabyte 280X Windforce available, but poof, now they're already gone! I managed to get an order in though, so got two delivered today! Smiley

Question is, how will this influence AMD Q4 earnings to be released later this month...?
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
January 10, 2014, 04:27:59 PM
It does not matter if we fork it now, it's better then when we fork it when it's on cryptsy. I think since this coin has a fanatic group of followers it's most honest to everyone to set the diff retarget time lower so it's more in balance.

It has nothing to do with defeat. It's common sense. And i think real devs are Always looking to improve things.  Why on earth would you leave a coin cripple ...just to prove your right? That's wrong. This is good, and i love that devs are looking to see what can be accomplished on the longrun.

If diff is low now, multipools have much more block to push diff skyhigh. This new retarget time will not help multipools, but works against them. if you do not understand that , you should not post rubbish. Just sell your coins if you do not agree, i'll buy em cheap since the continious hashrate will go up and there will be less moments to mine em easy.  That will drive price up.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 10
January 10, 2014, 04:27:47 PM

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What are they?

Why the sad face? not enough? I agree.

They are not NVidia, that's for sure.
sr. member
Activity: 285
Merit: 251
January 10, 2014, 04:14:28 PM
PLEASE don't simply hardfork to have a diff retarget every 1 hour instead of 1 day, this is only an half assed solution.

Instead of having 4-6 hours of high Hashrate followed by 4-5 days of low hashrate, we will have 20mn of high hashrate followed by 4-5 hours of low hashrate.
At least include a min/max retarget of +-20% to avoid big jumps. You could even lower the retarget to 30mn with this to be a little more reactive.

Best would be a moving average on the last xxx blocks, recalculated each block, with or without weight.

You could even take some notes from the "gravity well" from MEC as already linked in this thread by another member.



I am for any changes this early in the stage in regards to resolving the 'issue' of difficulty retargeting. If there is a fundamental changes that must be made to more or less eliminate non-free market influences on this coin, I'd say let the dev and his team hash it out, with small but additional updates in the future.

However, we are going to have to come to terms with the fact that sometimes bottlenecks and unfavorable conditions happen. If the primary motivation behind these 'improvements' are just there to satisfy miner's want for 'streamlined' mining that gives best profit, it just wouldn't end up well.

Let's try to balance out actual technical problems against simple 'change the rules so I have easier time mining free monies'.

Even if there was a real technical issue, if this is the primary motive, than there is no end to how far the rules need to be 'improved'.


Take this whole month of january as the trial period for RPC to improve, adapt, and survive. Dev is doing his best and is responding to private PMs of individual members and their suggestions.


Constructive suggestions and criticisms. That's the key.

Precisely, just changing diff retarget to 1 hour would be the best for hopping miners. Using a multipool or a custom made script that checks the diff of multiple coins will easily tell them when to switch on RPC for 20mn when it's super profitable, and then switch to another temporary alt coin again.
Making the diff have a lot more inertia will bring a much more linear correlation between RPC value and hashrate. The only thing which will be able to make the hashrate increase is the value of RPC.
The only thing RPC would suffer is traditional pump and dump.
hero member
Activity: 907
Merit: 1003
January 10, 2014, 04:08:32 PM
I am for any changes this early in the stage in regards to resolving the 'issue' of difficulty retargeting. If there is a fundamental changes that must be made to more or less eliminate non-free market influences on this coin, I'd say let the dev and his team hash it out, with small but additional updates in the future.

However, we are going to have to come to terms with the fact that sometimes bottlenecks and unfavorable conditions happen. If the primary motivation behind these 'improvements' are just there to satisfy miner's want for 'streamlined' mining that gives best profit, it just wouldn't end up well.

Let's try to balance out actual technical problems against simple 'change the rules so I have easier time mining free monies'.

Even if there was a real technical issue, if this is the primary motive, than there is no end to how far the rules need to be 'improved'.


Take this whole month of january as the trial period for RPC to improve, adapt, and survive. Dev is doing his best and is responding to private PMs of individual members and their suggestions.

Constructive suggestions and criticisms. That's the key.

Precisely. Trust me, I am doing my best. And no I am not the master of the universe with all the answers. I am always open to suggestions.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
January 10, 2014, 04:05:57 PM
PLEASE don't simply hardfork to have a diff retarget every 1 hour instead of 1 day, this is only an half assed solution.

Instead of having 4-6 hours of high Hashrate followed by 4-5 days of low hashrate, we will have 20mn of high hashrate followed by 4-5 hours of low hashrate.
At least include a min/max retarget of +-20% to avoid big jumps. You could even lower the retarget to 30mn with this to be a little more reactive.

Best would be a moving average on the last xxx blocks, recalculated each block, with or without weight.

You could even take some notes from the "gravity well" from MEC as already linked in this thread by another member.



I am for any changes this early in the stage in regards to resolving the 'issue' of difficulty retargeting. If there is a fundamental changes that must be made to more or less eliminate non-free market influences on this coin, I'd say let the dev and his team hash it out, with small but additional updates in the future.

However, we are going to have to come to terms with the fact that sometimes bottlenecks and unfavorable conditions happen. If the primary motivation behind these 'improvements' are just there to satisfy miner's want for 'streamlined' mining that gives best profit, it just wouldn't end up well.

Let's try to balance out actual technical problems against simple 'change the rules so I have easier time mining free monies'.

Even if there was a real technical issue, if this is the primary motive, than there is no end to how far the rules need to be 'improved'.


Take this whole month of january as the trial period for RPC to improve, adapt, and survive. Dev is doing his best and is responding to private PMs of individual members and their suggestions.


Constructive suggestions and criticisms. That's the key.
hero member
Activity: 907
Merit: 1003
January 10, 2014, 04:00:14 PM
PLEASE don't simply hardfork to have a diff retarget every 1 hour instead of 1 day, this is only an half assed solution.

Instead of having 4-6 hours of high Hashrate followed by 4-5 days of low hashrate, we will have 20mn of high hashrate followed by 4-5 hours of low hashrate.
At least include a min/max retarget of +-20% to avoid big jumps. You could even lower the retarget to 30mn with this to be a little more reactive.

Best would be a moving average on the last xxx blocks, recalculated each block, with or without weight.

You could even take some notes from the "gravity well" from MEC as already linked in this thread by another member.

I understand what you mean. If I could code it myself I would. Unfortunately there's already a team of people working on the difficulty retarget changes. We'll have to propose yours as voted-upon future changes to the coin
sr. member
Activity: 285
Merit: 251
January 10, 2014, 03:55:28 PM
PLEASE don't simply hardfork to have a diff retarget every 1 hour instead of 1 day, this is only an half assed solution.

Instead of having 4-6 hours of high Hashrate followed by 4-5 days of low hashrate, we will have 20mn of high hashrate followed by 4-5 hours of low hashrate.
At least include a min/max retarget of +-20% to avoid big jumps. You could even lower the retarget to 30mn with this to be a little more reactive.

Best would be a moving average on the last xxx blocks, recalculated each block, with or without weight.

You could even take some notes from the "gravity well" from MEC as already linked in this thread by another member.

legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
January 10, 2014, 03:45:10 PM
Can i suggest the tray icon not to be the same as others but a simple Gold letter R - surely you don't need me to explain what R stand for? Wink Wink

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legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
January 10, 2014, 03:42:37 PM
http://rpc.pooljunkie.nl Network Info
Difficulty   80.06031858
Est Next Difficulty   16.11143813 (Change in 234 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Block   9 minutes 56 seconds
Current Block   12006

we REALLY need hashrate influx right now; or this diff change will NEVER happen!

Come on guys! if we start hashing again; the diff can drop easily!

the hardfork is on its way; so why should we let this coin die right now???

Hashrate always welcome.

This coin ain't going to die tho, my 12 GPUs have to die first Smiley

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What are they?
hero member
Activity: 907
Merit: 1003
January 10, 2014, 03:34:06 PM
This is what CAT coin did. This is NOT the way to lead coin that wants to be taken seriously

Hard forked means arbitrarily changing the rules midfight, and after everyone has agreed to certain set of rules.  
This is basically admitting the defeat.

Time and again we see here nothing but ANTI Ron Paul views.

It's same like BAILOUTS. Everyone agrees to CAPITALISM, then the moment they fail they start talking about common good, and they want socialism and federal money.

This coin doesn't have other leaders or elders meetings... have you seen any votings here?
We have a leader who is doing hard to make RonPaulCoin successful so at least have some respect for him instead of whining.

And i agree with you that such important decissions should be consulted with community, because we don't want to be involved in centralised coin. We see it as property of all and in such case we own also rights to decide the future and future shape of RPC.

Colinistheman: Bro next time consult such things with us. You aren't owner of this coin and making such fundamental decission can't be made one-sided. You don't want to risk to loose so great community support, because it is a real strenght of RonPaulCoin and only reason it succeded.

As i understand these changes are being made to make client easier to use for cryptonewbies and to not have a long period of high difficulty when interest in coin is lowwer and system can sometimes stuck in place. But this is a predictable mechanics of this coin and changing rules while playing multiplayer game is unfair and risky.

BTW Cheap RPC's to buy people... i told ya to sell high and rebuy lowwer by believers, you didn't want to listen. Or maybe you wait for much lowwer bottom? Wink

We need to use momentum. Dogecoin is rising again and BTC is slowly recovering.


In response to the difficulty adjustment time change, trust me, I didn't want to change it more than anyone. I am a firm believer in keeping operating rules stable. That's why I didn't do it the first time the difficulty got stuck. I let it ride out, and I was hoping it wouldn't happen again. But it has happened again.

As far as a vote goes, I received a LOT of emails, messages and requests from the RonPaulCoin community for this difficulty change to be made. That is one form of vote. Secondly, I foresee a potential future with multipools hopping onto and off of RonPaulCoin like a midget on a pogo stick, riding its difficulty waves, and that would ruin it even more. The coin is no good for anyone if it doesn't exist.

By the way, you also always have a vote-- the choice whether to use the new client or not. Majority will win in that case too.

But I agree to this: if I or we ever again feel it's important to implement changes, we will do a community poll and ask if it's desired or not. And this will serve as a vote.

Sound good?

P.S. You can always address me. Usually in a polite manner is best.
member
Activity: 81
Merit: 100
January 10, 2014, 03:13:12 PM
RON PAUL
LIBERTY
FREEDOM
COIN

Perhaps getting it on some other minor exchanges would get rid of stupidly backed up sell orders...!
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
January 10, 2014, 03:06:45 PM
this coin is going to blowup after the new client is out, keep mining, keep buying those cheap coins and get ready!
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
January 10, 2014, 03:04:41 PM
HELP

wallet doesn't syns
i need nodes
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 500
January 10, 2014, 03:03:58 PM
AWESOME! Error, won't run. I'm on 10.9 Mavericks btw.



Sorry, let me fix this. Link will be updated ASAP.
newbie
Activity: 23
Merit: 10
January 10, 2014, 03:00:42 PM
http://rpc.pooljunkie.nl Network Info
Difficulty   80.06031858
Est Next Difficulty   16.11143813 (Change in 234 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Block   9 minutes 56 seconds
Current Block   12006

we REALLY need hashrate influx right now; or this diff change will NEVER happen!

Come on guys! if we start hashing again; the diff can drop easily!

the hardfork is on its way; so why should we let this coin die right now???

Hashrate always welcome.

This coin ain't going to die tho, my 12 GPUs have to die first Smiley
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
January 10, 2014, 02:50:22 PM
http://rpc.pooljunkie.nl Network Info
Difficulty   80.06031858
Est Next Difficulty   16.11143813 (Change in 234 Blocks)
Est. Avg. Time per Block   9 minutes 56 seconds
Current Block   12006

we REALLY need hashrate influx right now; or this diff change will NEVER happen!

Come on guys! if we start hashing again; the diff can drop easily!

the hardfork is on its way; so why should we let this coin die right now???
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
January 10, 2014, 02:42:19 PM
Can i suggest the tray icon not to be the same as others but a simple Gold letter R - surely you don't need me to explain what R stand for? Wink Wink

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full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
January 10, 2014, 02:33:12 PM
Can i suggest the tray icon not to be the same as others but a simple Gold letter R - surely you don't need me to explain what R stand for? Wink Wink

THIS!
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