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EG's new Dota squad for the next DPC season is finally revealed. It's already expected with so many leaks and some of the fans don't like the transition but I hope these players continue to do good after showing up big during TI.

https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses/status/1595540239140823040

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on November 23, 2022, 05:13:31 PM

Valve has to do something with that because it didn't just happened once but many times. They have to act like partners to the players because they're the biggest and major sponsors for those tournaments. I think that's the least that they can do which is the biggest thing for those players that has and will experience VISA issues if qualified to enter into that region to compete.

With how Valve has been operating and getting involved in the tournaments that would be a miracle if they decide to reach out to all the teams but I think at best they'll probably just give them enough time to settle their VISA.

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Quote from: ralle14 on November 22, 2022, 10:17:07 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on November 21, 2022, 09:52:21 AM

Hopefully, there will be no majors to be held in the US, especially the next TI.

I've heard some rumors spread during TI and they said it'll happen in Seattle. I honestly would prefer it to be in the US if it means that they could bring back that similar production quality from the previous TIs.

Sadly, that's also what I've heard that there will be one major that will happen in the US. And that made a lot of comments in the Dota 2 community because whenever there's a lan event in the US, we're all expecting that there will be a lot of players to deal with their respective VISA issues.
Valve has to do something with that because it didn't just happened once but many times. They have to act like partners to the players because they're the biggest and major sponsors for those tournaments. I think that's the least that they can do which is the biggest thing for those players that has and will experience VISA issues if qualified to enter into that region to compete.

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There is no surprise so far in BLAST Premier Fall Final.

FaZe completely destroyed OG by big map scores. It was a really big effort by them which was promising and surprising at the same time. Because after seeing their terrible Major performance it was difficult to predict when they would pull themselves together. Heroic lost the first map against NIP but they made a strong comeback by getting comfortable wins on Ancient and Overpass. Upper Final in Group A now is FaZe - Heroic.

Natus Vincere had a really easy opponent like Fluxo and we didn't see any surprise on both maps. Right now Liquid are playing against G2 on the first map, Vertigo. They are close to winning it as it is 14-9 now. This is pretty interesting because it was G2's pick. When we check the win rates we can clearly see that there is a huge difference between them. This is like one of the worst maps for Liquid normally. Mirage and Inferno (decider) are the other maps and Liquid have better stats on both. So they might really be Natus Vincere's opponent in Upper Final in Group B.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on November 21, 2022, 09:52:21 AM

Hopefully, there will be no majors to be held in the US, especially the next TI.

I've heard some rumors spread during TI and they said it'll happen in Seattle. I honestly would prefer it to be in the US if it means that they could bring back that similar production quality from the previous TIs.

The roster shuffles from the side of League are also getting interesting, Viper leaves EDG and moves to Hanwha Life and there was a rumor that Scout might move as well since the contracts from the EDG players haven't been renewed yet.

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BLAST Premier Fall Final is about to start tomorrow.

4 teams are already decided to join BLAST Premier World Final. These teams are Outsiders, Natus Vincere, Vitality and FaZe. The winner of the current tournament is going to have the right to join the World Final directly. The remaining three teams are going to join considering BLAST ranking.

There are two groups in the Fall Final now. My favourite team in Group A is Heroic to be honest. I know that there is FaZe there as well. However their form has dropped a lot in the recent times. Especially their Major performance was horrible as they were eliminated in the group stage already, 0-3. I know that there are G2 and Liquid in Group B but I still want to believe in Natus Vincere to reach upper final and be the winner there. They just need to improve their team effort a little more.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on November 21, 2022, 09:52:21 AM

Hopefully, there will be no majors to be held in the US, especially the next TI.

Yeah, there are too many denied a visa if the games are held in the USA. This prevents teams from performing on their best level since they need substitution to fill up their roster. And with the penalty bumped up, this will greatly affect teams with players that are denied their visa.

I read that TorontoTokyo is recently playing Pub matches using support heroes. There are rumors that TorontoTokyo is looking to create a new team with Nightfall and Save- after their disappointing finish in the recently concluded TI 2022. TorontoTokyo is still in contract with Team Spirit but because of their finish in TI, there might be a roster change in Team Spirit. Larl is seen practicing with the team in place of TorontoTokyo.

If they drop TorontoTokyo and he creates a new team, he might play support in this new team. He mostly played mid in his professional career so this move will be a big adjustment.

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So after Tundra ESports finally became TI champions, an earlier this year drama that led to Fata's removal is brought back into the spotlight. It started after Tundra coach Aui_2000 posted a blog about his DOTA 2 journey. The blog blog specifically highlighted on how FATA was kicked. Earlier I heard about Fata's removal but it was not a big deal to me since it is normal when players and teams to come and go when they aren't fit each other. So I don't really know if it makes sense for Aui_2000 to highlight the issue for public consumption. So far Tundra coach Sneyking reacted with his own series of tweets. As if the issue is as dramatic as the NoTail-Fly saga a few years ago. I am not a big fan of Aui_2000 and I think he is still the same guy who talks too much without limitations, one of the reasons why he was booted out just a few days after he won TI 2015.

New DPC rules and changes:
1. Roster change penalty from 15% to 20%.
2. DPC points are rounded down per event.
3. Maximum of substitutions with a huge 40% penalty on points earned per substitution.

Hopefully, there will be no majors to be held in the US, especially the next TI.

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Yeah! The greatest comeback in PUBG tournament history! Stand strong, Ukrainians! They deserve this win not only for their country but also for their out-of-the-box strategy! This is what we meant by competitive PUBG. They were in 6th place before the last day of the finals, but again they climbed up to win the game. Fans are celebrating their victories, and commentators are surprised because they expected 17 Gaming or Overpeekers to win because Jemz and Clib are on a roll, but it turns out Navi!

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Quote from: jakelyson on November 20, 2022, 07:24:13 PM

Quote from: sunsilk on November 20, 2022, 06:11:00 PM

Quote from: ralle14 on November 19, 2022, 11:49:31 AM

It looks like it as I also saw this leak mentioned on Reddit and this was their potential roster on Blacklist.

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Blacklist DOTA2

Raven
Karl
Kuku
Tims
TBD

That's possible if that's going to be the line up roster for that upcoming new team, Blacklist Dota 2 that has acquired Resurgence(RGS) slot for the qualifiers.

It makes me wonder if this would be announced as the official, who could be the position 5? But then I remember that there's one that have the experience and an ex-teammate of kuku and raven and that's eyyou.

This lineup still needs a captain and a coach. We know that Kuku said that they need a better captain, so I guess he will not be the captain of this team. Eyyou is a coach and a support but I guess he can be a good captain as well. So, all they need now is a good coach.

I do not have an idea who can coach them since they want this team to be an all Filipino team, a Filipino redeem team. I guess we have to watch and wait how this lineup will turn out after the roster lock.

Kuku is done being a captain, he has to focus with his role as a pos 3 rather than captaining and commanding the team especially during the crucial games. AFAIK, he was the captain on T1 together with ana and topson and we've heard it from topson that there's a need for a good captain in the SEA and kuku's not enough for it.

Well, if it's an all-Filipino roster then everyone is going to be the coach. Kidding aside, there's still March that they can get as the coach so that at least there's a blend for other nationality and good thinker since he's been with kuku.

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Quote from: boltz on November 20, 2022, 06:50:46 AM

Wow! A lot of changes in Dota 2 scene lately ...it's like we are entering in a new era of Dota 2 players or the old one jumped into new teams that have been crated over night or at least out of nowhere.

Yea , Boom just Jaccky and it was a wise decision as he was the weak piece in that team but he is a skillful player that he will find soon a new team.

I remember when everyone was so hyped with Jackyyy joining BOOM when in fact he's quite mediocre as a carry, often needing 24/7 guidance from his 5 and sometimes 4 just to secure farm. Other carry players in the current meta need not constant help from their supports, but they were still able to secure farm or even join fights whenever they need to. Jackyyy's play style is just so passive and reliant on everyone that it's not suited in high level competitions at all.

Quote from: boltz on November 20, 2022, 06:50:46 AM

I still think and believe that EG made the best decision by dropping the player and move to SA because that is where the real talents are and SA pubs and ranks games are way better than NA.

And maybe SA players ask for lower rates while offering the same or even greater quality of gameplay/effort than their NA counterparts. It all started with Beastcoast smashing heads on tournaments and the SA region just flourished from there. I'm yet to see whether this is a good move for EG or not, but as far as talents go, they will never lose any given how many high-ranking immortals and skillful players are on that region.

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Quote from: sunsilk on November 20, 2022, 06:11:00 PM

Quote from: ralle14 on November 19, 2022, 11:49:31 AM

It looks like it as I also saw this leak mentioned on Reddit and this was their potential roster on Blacklist.

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Blacklist DOTA2

Raven
Karl
Kuku
Tims
TBD

That's possible if that's going to be the line up roster for that upcoming new team, Blacklist Dota 2 that has acquired Resurgence(RGS) slot for the qualifiers.

It makes me wonder if this would be announced as the official, who could be the position 5? But then I remember that there's one that have the experience and an ex-teammate of kuku and raven and that's eyyou.

This lineup still needs a captain and a coach. We know that Kuku said that they need a better captain, so I guess he will not be the captain of this team. Eyyou is a coach and a support but I guess he can be a good captain as well. So, all they need now is a good coach.

I do not have an idea who can coach them since they want this team to be an all Filipino team, a Filipino redeem team. I guess we have to watch and wait how this lineup will turn out after the roster lock.

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Quote from: ralle14 on November 19, 2022, 11:49:31 AM

It looks like it as I also saw this leak mentioned on Reddit and this was their potential roster on Blacklist.

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Blacklist DOTA2

Raven
Karl
Kuku
Tims
TBD

That's possible if that's going to be the line up roster for that upcoming new team, Blacklist Dota 2 that has acquired Resurgence(RGS) slot for the qualifiers.

It makes me wonder if this would be announced as the official, who could be the position 5? But then I remember that there's one that have the experience and an ex-teammate of kuku and raven and that's eyyou.

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The winning team of Elisa Masters Espoo 2022 tournament was Fnatic. In the matches they played with BIG in the final match, they won both maps comfortably and became the winner of the tournament and won the award. It was a really easy match for Fnatic, I haven't watched a bo3 series that ended so quickly while watching the match, it ended so quickly. BIG won 4 rounds in Vertigo, they won 5 rounds in Overpass. Fnatic is winning the Tournament like in the old days and the team is doing pretty well. The best player in the tournament, in my opinion, BlameF already had the best KD ratio. In my opinion, the team that should have been 2nd should have been the Astralis or the worst ENCE in this tournament.

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Is anyone watching the last day of PGC 2022 today? Match 1 is very epic! It was amusing that many messages in the chat box said that the last gameplay with NAVI was why Russia couldn't beat Ukraine. Lol. But that gameplay highlight is very unique and makes me jump in my seat! Imagine leaving one man in the barn and three men in the vehicle to push. Just wow! That's all I can say about that gameplay.

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 19, 2022, 05:47:23 PM

Quote from: Balmain on November 19, 2022, 04:48:37 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 19, 2022, 04:14:06 PM

It is really hard to catch up with the player changes at Eternal Fire. Grin

They have brought back MAJ3R once again. He is officially the fifth member of the team now after woxic's departure and he is the IGL at the same time. The current roster looks like this:

In fact this was one of the versions of the team I was hoping to see. I would rather seeing imoRR on the bench normally and woxic to take his place. However there have been serious problems between woxic and MAJ3R so it isn't possible now. Even the reason why MAJ3R has come back must be the absence of woxic in the team now. imoRR is going to be the new AWPer of the team from now on. This is good news actually as I hope to see him not taking unnecessary risks often. He'd definitely be an aggressive AWPer like nicoodoz at the same time I think.

https://www.hltv.org/news/35111/maj3r-returns-to-eternal-fire

How many changes in Eternal Fire now, I hope this will be the last. This would be the ideal five for me. I mentioned it here before., I criticized this decision a lot when Maj3r left. The captain improved his aim a lot, he was already a good IGL but he left the team, he left the team because of the disagreement with w0xic, now he came back. w0xic would be better than Imorr but now the team will be completely at peace. Many people think that he is a toxic player for w0xic, I think he can be a little too emotional when there are situations that he does not want in matches.

Eternal Fire don't have any roadmap and this is costing them very much. They need to take stronger steps on this road to be successful. The team have a big potential actually but they just don't know how to benefit from it. All of these players are unique and have really great aims. They have XANTARES before anything else. He is like one of the best players in the world now.

The point they lack is the strategies. They play by heart instead of preparing some solid strategies for each one of their opponents. This causes them to have big problems in many matches. XANTARES talked about his days at BIG in the past and mentioned how many tactics BIG had. You just need to be prepared for many kind of teams to reach big successes.

When I watch Eternal Fire matches, I see players drop tactically during the match. This is because they are not tactically high enough. There is the impression that they are prepared with the same tactic for each team. When they lose focus for a moment in the match, they have a hard time getting back together. When we look at the players one by one, they are all top level players, but what they lack as a team is a tactical deficiency in my opinion. A constant staff change also disrupts team cohesion. If they find solutions to these problems, they can become a top team.

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Wow! A lot of changes in Dota 2 scene lately ...it's like we are entering in a new era of Dota 2 players or the old one jumped into new teams that have been crated over night or at least out of nowhere.

Yea , Boom just Jaccky and it was a wise decision as he was the weak piece in that team but he is a skillful player that he will find soon a new team.

I still think and believe that EG made the best decision by dropping the player and move to SA because that is where the real talents are and SA pubs and ranks games are way better than NA.

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 20, 2022, 02:27:27 AM

Quote from: ralle14 on November 19, 2022, 08:44:10 PM

I also hope that's the case since I remember Polaris made a post about releasing their players recently

I thought this team was good though. Well they didnt make it to TI but atleast they got a solid potential in SEA so probably they will be able to get through the DPC next season after Boom was disbanded.

They are a young team created just late last year. Polaris already disbanded. Not because of management wanting to release them but rather due to bigger organizations offering their roster something it cannot match. It's sad for a new small organization but this is the reality.

Boom didn't disband mate, maybe you are referring to T1. Boom dropped Jackky so they needed a new position 1.

Quote from: arallmuus on November 20, 2022, 02:27:27 AM

Speaking of the next DPC though, Roster lock deadline is on 9th December so its probably going to be a while until we get the whole roster for all the teams competing. In case anyone interested on the next DPC and major schedule, check this out

Oops! Only 2 days after the lock-in and an open qualifier is about to begin. New teams need to assemble asap then. I am also waiting for the final line-up of EG and what happens to its former players. And of course Topson and Ana too, are they going to play DOTA 2 or they will take some rest.

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Quote from: ralle14 on November 19, 2022, 08:44:10 PM

I also hope that's the case since I remember Polaris made a post about releasing their players recently

I thought this team was good though. Well they didnt make it to TI but atleast they got a solid potential in SEA so probably they will be able to get through the DPC next season after Boom was disbanded.

Speaking of the next DPC though, Roster lock deadline is on 9th December so its probably going to be a while until we get the whole roster for all the teams competing. In case anyone interested on the next DPC and major schedule, check this out

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Quote from: abel1337 on November 19, 2022, 12:13:56 PM

3 out of 5 member of former TNC Pro members, I'm also expecting this as well given that Blacklist is trying to build an all filipino team representing Philippines and take the chance for a full Filipino team to win the TI. I don't have any news about other TNC former members, Did they quit dota? I haven't seen them in the scene for a while now. If this line up becomes a reality, I'm sure Filipino will be on hype as hell. Those who quit dota will surely get interested on what's happening to dota given that the community and the pro scene is still active.

I don't think those guys would easily quit after they got released but it's likely that other teams won't pick them up since there are a lot of good players available as well.

Quote from: dothebeats on November 19, 2022, 05:05:01 PM

From the above list, I think it's possible that they acquire Eyyou again as 5 and captain. The man still has the meta, the plays, and the overall wits to compete professionally, just that he's always teamed with other players that aren't as hungry as his former TNC mates.

I also hope that's the case since I remember Polaris made a post about releasing their players recently and if he can take over the captain position then it's the perfect fifth member for the roster as Kuku already mentioned before that he doesn't want to be in the captain role again.

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Quote from: Balmain on November 19, 2022, 04:48:37 PM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 19, 2022, 04:14:06 PM

It is really hard to catch up with the player changes at Eternal Fire. Grin

They have brought back MAJ3R once again. He is officially the fifth member of the team now after woxic's departure and he is the IGL at the same time. The current roster looks like this:

In fact this was one of the versions of the team I was hoping to see. I would rather seeing imoRR on the bench normally and woxic to take his place. However there have been serious problems between woxic and MAJ3R so it isn't possible now. Even the reason why MAJ3R has come back must be the absence of woxic in the team now. imoRR is going to be the new AWPer of the team from now on. This is good news actually as I hope to see him not taking unnecessary risks often. He'd definitely be an aggressive AWPer like nicoodoz at the same time I think.

https://www.hltv.org/news/35111/maj3r-returns-to-eternal-fire

How many changes in Eternal Fire now, I hope this will be the last. This would be the ideal five for me. I mentioned it here before., I criticized this decision a lot when Maj3r left. The captain improved his aim a lot, he was already a good IGL but he left the team, he left the team because of the disagreement with w0xic, now he came back. w0xic would be better than Imorr but now the team will be completely at peace. Many people think that he is a toxic player for w0xic, I think he can be a little too emotional when there are situations that he does not want in matches.

Eternal Fire don't have any roadmap and this is costing them very much. They need to take stronger steps on this road to be successful. The team have a big potential actually but they just don't know how to benefit from it. All of these players are unique and have really great aims. They have XANTARES before anything else. He is like one of the best players in the world now.

The point they lack is the strategies. They play by heart instead of preparing some solid strategies for each one of their opponents. This causes them to have big problems in many matches. XANTARES talked about his days at BIG in the past and mentioned how many tactics BIG had. You just need to be prepared for many kind of teams to reach big successes.

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