Topic: Esports Prediction & Discussion Thread - page 123. (Read 79100 times)

I don't know if Boombl4 will come back, but there was a time when the transfer of Cloud9 player Hobb1t was on the agenda.if there is still such a thing, I think it will make a big difference if he is transferred.they have more or less the same language and I don't think they will have any problems with the agreement. The lack of IGL in the team is obvious. I think this is the only reason why the team with such a high firepower is constantly failing.A team with players like s1mple,b1t and electronic should not still be unsuccessful. it makes no sense to me, even though they have built such a good roster.NaVi should be 1st or 2nd in all tournaments now with this roster.

What a match day indeed! It was crazy to see 3 out of 4 matches go to the underdogs. I mean, who would've thought Liquid would lose 2-0 to Rare Atom? I've never even heard of that team before, but I gotta give them props for taking down a strong team like Liquid. With that said, I'm really excited for the second day of matches. I'm definitely gonna bet on Rare Atom, since they impressed me so much in their last match against Liquid. And with the odds still against them (2.7), it's even more tempting. As for the NaVi vs Astralis match, I'm sticking with my favorite team and betting on NaVi. I hope they don't fall into the last-chance bracket

Yeah, I totally agree with you on this one. NaVi really needs a dedicated IGL to help them get back to their previous level. I'm not sure if it's still in the table, but I think bringing Boombl4 back would be a great move for the team.

If OG goes 0-3 tomorrow things might get concerning but I hope they'll bounce back tomorrow for the final day of the week 1 since they'll be up against Ooredoo Thunders and I think it's one of their best chance to get their first win.

On the other series though, Ooredoo Thunders handing Gaimin Gladiators their first loss was surprising, I guess they just had a bad day which can happen to certain teams like how Tundra underperformed during the major.

There might be something wrong with the current roster of OG because they have not won a map yet. It is 1-0 right now between Liquid and OG but Liquid is already 6K ahead of OG on the second map. It looks like OG will be 0-2 in standing this early in WEU. Given they had face strong opponents (Tundra and Liquid), I never thought they could not take the matches to a distance.

Gaimin Gladiators lost to Ooredoo Thunders, 2-1. I was not able to watch the game so now I am intrigued with OOredoo because GG is not an easy opponent but they defeated them. GG easily defeated team Liquid which speaks a lot to ooredoo defeating GG.

I also thought it would be close, but it wasn't what we expected
I can say Astralis had a terrible performance. I don't understand how they managed to play so badly especially on the anubis map they chose.You chose the map but you play so badly.Then why did you study this map or why did you choose it?
Astralis roster is not as strong as it used to be and it's sad for the fans.Device is back in the roster, but it's not an individual game.The team is not doing well despite having a player with strong aime like BlameF.Gla1ve and xyp9x are far from their old performances. Not to mention the young player buzz who is also very bad.

Let's separate the actual competitive teams in SEA and the actual SEA server in pubs. They're two completely things and what's most with the SEA competitive teams these days, they're now with mixed players from other regions that have been competitive.

We all have the idea why it's fun to watch players like CEB and Topson being on the same team again. Although this is no longer the OG that we used to see, it's still giving us excitement to watch them go back in the scene and make their way to division 1 and compete against with other teams. Their roster is completely strong and optimistic with their potential.

As for Topson's concern, while both him and ana played for a SEA. That was truly a different experience on them because the intimidation is there, Kuku won't give that command to them as they're two time TI champs and it should be the both of them or at least Topson that should be giving the command then since ana is like a shy-type boy.

However, it made me realize that these two, Topson and ana, really gives that credit to whoever is captaining them and that's why Topson said that it was a good experience but yeah still far from the team play that he used to be.

It's true that Korean players are really good at strategizing and they've been recognized worldwide. The past-MVP rosters have been put most of them into coaching positions and that's why they're in demand because of the success that they contribute to the teams that they've been with.

There's still dubu that's playing for Bleed Esports which is on SEA region but prior to that, he played for NA with the team, TSM.

As for NGX's first match, they've lost 1-2 against Entity. Yet, more games to come.

I don't think NaVi is trolling. NaVi's substitutions were very wrong. Even though S1mple played well on all maps, it was not enough for the team to win. S1mple is limited in what he can do as well. After all, this is a team game, not an individual game. NaVi team needs a good igl player.this is not something that can happen with npl and electronic.the team already has high fire power but there is no one to manage the team.I don't know if S1mple igl's occasionally in the game, but even if he does, he is definitely not useful.

Natus Vincere must really be trolling. I was really surprised to see them losing to FORZE there. They lost two maps in a row on Ancient and Inferno which brought their end by 2-1. s1mple had a really great day actually. Especially on Overpass he made a big impact with 32 kills. He was at top on the other maps as well but this wasn't still enough for the team to make it to the victory.

Astralis are a more challenging team to beat for Natus Vincere on paper. But we shouldn't forget another thing that Astralis lost to Spirit by 2-0 before coming to lower bracket. Besides it has been a long time since Astralis and Natus Vincere played against each other the last time. It feels like Natus Vincere will beat them by 2-1 in s1mple's lead.

The first match of the day was Spirit-Astralis, Astralis doesn't have the same roster quality as before and we've seen that for a long time. In this match, we saw that the roster is still not fully settled and weak.Spirit was the better team and they were able to win. Wonderfull was among the leading players of the team in this match.
In the second match of the day, we watched the Forze-NaVi match. Forze defeated navi and I honestly did not expect such a win from forze.Natus Vincere team is struggling to achieve success despite having talented players like S1mple and b1t.Although S1mple played perfectly, they could not win the match.

Yeah, the opening matches in EPL group are usually quite boring and one-sided. But the Spirit vs. Astralis game might actually be close. Their performance against Liquid, a tier 1 team, on IEM Katowice was decent. So I think they could also give Astralis a close match here. I'll probably only going to bet on that game and skip the rest.

Koreans are not the best players but they certainly excel in the coaching position. They lend insights and strategies that not a lot of teams and coaches in the West can provide, possibly due to their roots in SC2 and other MOBA/RTS. The remnants of the MVP team are the only ones remaining in competitive Dota if I'm not mistaken, and others such as Febby still pursued playing Dota but only as a streamer.

Hoping that NGX finds success with the new coach in the roster, and hope that they have fixed whatever internal issues they may have leading to them placing badly on a lot of the more recent tournaments they're in.

I also saw one of Old G's matches earlier but I didn't stay until the end since they're going to win no matter what anyway.

For my bet of the day i've gone with a multi that's barely above 2.01 as I think the Liquid vs OG series might go the distance. Gaimin Gladiators should take down Ooredoo Thunders with ease since Monaspa had no problems taking them down 2-0 during the first day. Entity vs Team Nigma might be a close series when there are rumors that ATF could be moving to the offlane position but I don't think that'll be enough when Entity looked great during the Lima major.

At that time SEA isn't really playing for global competition that is why most playstyles they had are behind the meta or sometimes they're making their own meta. Even until now the meme still exist about SEA as a cancerous server, but it's not that they don't play like pros but because of their unusual builds.

I'm rooting for the Old G coz I want to see them on the group stage again hopefully they wont choke again like any other times they did during qualifiers.  I remembered during an interview from the last year's TI when topson said it was different when he was playing with Ceb and BigDaddy compared to T1 coz he was comfortable having someone taking the command while on his new roster there was nobody who would step up to the plate. Regardless they have a good run last year, I wanna see topson back in action again with his unorthodox builds.

That's what a coach really does, I remember when the time like SEA teams don't participate a lot in international teams but when a coach has came in their performances have improved a lot.

It's not about the team that he has managed, it's about his experience. Check out IF's experiences and who he'd played with before. He's one of the founders of Vikin.gg which turned out into a great team and then now, they're the known Gaimin Gladiators.

By the way guys, who had fun watching Old G against Plasma? Ceb transitioned now into a pos 4. They're now qualified for the Closed qualifier for the division 2 in Western EU. The open qualifier was too easy for them and just fun games honestly.

Esl pro league matches will resume tomorrow. There is not much to enjoy between the first matches in group d. The toughest challenge seems to be spirit-Astralis. I expect Natus Vincere to get a comfortable win against forze. Simple and his team have been out of form lately, but they are a team that will be easier to recover. Now they need to show success in tournaments. They have a good roster and this shouldn't be a tough challenge for them.
Liquid-Rare atom will also be an easy match for liquid. Liquid is at a good level right now and their opponent is a team in form. But there is a difference between them. Their opponent is better in terms of map winning percentages, but there is no team that can achieve proper success in that region. Therefore, even if it is difficult, liquid will win the match.

As expected, some teams will change in order to catch up. Team Secret just like last season is in a bumpy road and there are too many rivals in the region. March brought Execration into a major but they disappoint in the actual major. Maybe the lack of international experience of the team had mental effects. I am still doubtful on Nigma but we will see, maybe they will do good with March and the new patch. I don't know why Geek Slate brought a coach coming from a team that is underperforming lately.

Yeah, we will see new Meta in this patch. You are right, we must see first how the teams will perform in this Meta. Luckily for GG, they are still performing very well even with the new patch. They are on a winning streak right now and dispatch Team Liquid 2-0 in their match. I did not expect that. I was expecting them to give GG at least a hard time but GG won so easily on both maps.

Team Secret is on the eyes of many as of now due to the roster changes that they've recently announced. Now, there's another known team which is the Nigma Galaxy and they're taking another addition not to the roster but to their team with a coach.

They've welcomed "March" as their new coach. After helping Execration to reach Lima major, he's now being taken care of Nigma Galaxy as their new coach.

While the former Nigma's coach, "ImmortalFaith" goes to Geek Slate as their new coach.

Team Liquid still lost against Gaimin Gladiator for 2 games. Even they are with boxi, still lost the match and that answers the thought during the Lima major of what if boxi was there with them.

But still, I'd believe that it will be a different result even if boxi was there on Lima major. We don't know, who knows? Both of the games that recently happened were seems to be easy for GG.

Everyone now wouldn't doubt how strong they are. Because there have been many watchers that are still doubting them, just like Tundra before they've won the aegis, maybe they're up to it next.

I kinda forget to take this into account before choosing to bet. OG ended up losing 2 maps against Tundra, oh well I guess the classic over 2.5 maps is not working right now.


Right on the spot ! Its just crazy that Liquid couldnt get a single map against GG, yeah I know its a new patch but Liquid is more than capable of winning atleast a single map. I guess GG is the main favourites this season huh