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Quote from: jakelyson on March 13, 2023, 02:30:15 PM

Anyone interested to know if Team Liquid could have beaten Gaimin Gladiators in Lima Major should watch the current match between Team Liquid vs GG on DPC Spring Tour WEU. Boxi is now playing and both teams are complete and in good health.

Team Liquid is slightly favorite in this match according to stake.com with an odd @ 1.8. But we cannot really tell who will win between these two teams.

This is new patch so not the same game anymore. Looking at some games today I felt lost. Had a very nice grip on the meta after Lima major and now everything changed. Have to see how the meta will settle before betting big again.

Both are good teams and I am expecting them to try out some things so over 2.5 maps looked like good bet for me before it started. Now it is start of map 2 and looking at the draws I am thinking this will be clean 2:0 for GG.

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The Sangal team is in a bad form. I don't know why, but they were doing well and suddenly they started playing badly. Maybe it is because of the coach. Recently there was a coaching change and the former coach of the bne team "stikle" came. I think it's because of him, otherwise there will be another reason for such an obvious low form. They need to get themselves together as soon as possible. The performance of Turkish teams is not at the desired level.

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Anyone interested to know if Team Liquid could have beaten Gaimin Gladiators in Lima Major should watch the current match between Team Liquid vs GG on DPC Spring Tour WEU. Boxi is now playing and both teams are complete and in good health.

Team Liquid is slightly favorite in this match according to stake.com with an odd @ 1.8. But we cannot really tell who will win between these two teams.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 12, 2023, 06:32:45 PM

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Yeah, the first map goes to NiP and the map goes to 00N. Map 3 is very tight, as of watching it right now the score is tied at 9-10 in favor of 00 Nation.
It's about to end soon and I guess that it's just an icebreaker for 00N as they've won the 2nd map. You're correct that I've got to love them. And this map 3 seems to be favoring them now, they're too careful.

They've done it. NiP has a lot of good players but someone pointed out that they seem to not have any system or any methods that they need to use in order to take some rounds off of 00nation. I mean, Coldzera is obviously past his prime, but he's actually earned a lot more style points and got an even greater ADR and rating against most of NiP. Aleksib really needs to step up as an IGL and do something about the stagnance of his players. REZ is the only saving grace of NiP on most of those rounds, and headtr1ck sometimes steps up but they just couldn't if they haven't got anything to play with - no plans, no strats, no nothing.

Congratulations to 00Nation, they just want straight wins after being lost in the first map. Grin

On Dota 2, I watched the game of Army Geniuses and Bleed Esports. The debut of iceiceice and DJ on BE didn't go well, the series went 2-1 and now, people are praising AG for being in division 1 and winning against other tier 1 teams too.
Whilst on the WEU region, Team Liquid is about to have a match against Gaimin Gladiators for this DPC tour 2 and they're complete, Boxi will play.

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Quote from: Kapokala on March 13, 2023, 11:17:06 AM

If NIP would face any EU team ranked around the same as 00nation, they would've won.
There is something that makes brazillian CS super hard play, literally something that can not be learned.
NIP, squad that playes accordingly to their plan, and stick to it, can't even face ANY team that plays unpredictable CS.
That was a fight of Coldzera (oldschool) and AleksiB.
And Coldzera outplayed him.
Sad to see Headtr1cker getting rekt. Mark my words, he will be top3 AWP player within next 2 years. But You can't carry on Your shoulders 4 other teammates, if You have to face a strong 5 of 00nation.

Headtr1ck is another very special Awm player from Navi Academy. In a few years, he will be among the best among Awm players. The old school difference was clearly felt in the final match. They have experience like Coldzera, a proven player with loads of achievements. On the Nuke map, the Brazilian team was pretty ruthless, not getting a chance to get too far in the NIP. As you said, if there was a European team in the same ranking, NIP would probably win this match. I really like the agro games of Brazilian teams, the more active teams, the more fun the tournaments will be.

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If NIP would face any EU team ranked around the same as 00nation, they would've won.
There is something that makes brazillian CS super hard play, literally something that can not be learned.
NIP, squad that playes accordingly to their plan, and stick to it, can't even face ANY team that plays unpredictable CS.
That was a fight of Coldzera (oldschool) and AleksiB.
And Coldzera outplayed him.
Sad to see Headtr1cker getting rekt. Mark my words, he will be top3 AWP player within next 2 years. But You can't carry on Your shoulders 4 other teammates, if You have to face a strong 5 of 00nation.

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I was surprised that NiP lost to 00Nation. When I compared them in terms of power, NiP seemed to be one step ahead for me. But it was not like that. The first map was the mirage map chosen by 00Nation. Nip won this map, but when Nip couldn't win the map he chose, the match extended to the decider map. I should mention that NiP could not play at all on the map they chose. I didn't expect them to play so badly. In the last map, 00Nation was the one who played well as a team and they got the last slot.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 13, 2023, 08:05:09 AM

After the liquid makes a good run with their team mates nisha many bettors trust them again but after Boxi makes an issue because of their health conditions it's quite hard for them to play because one of player does not really play dota but instead its their analyst so I guess its quite good to make a risk again because liquid makes a good game after the game one, the reason they lose because of the draft, with the OP Lesh plus CK with IO super sustain but the liquid manages to make a comeback.

The only reason why Boxi presence matters is because GG is strong which Team Liquid can’t handle with an incomplete line but they are still pretty strong despite the absence of Boxi when dealing medium tier team because they manage to beat Talon Esports which is on win streak run on lower that beat many strong team. Team Liquid is still crowd favorite despite GG won the last major since they are already playing on complete line-up. It’s interesting to see a rematch between Liquid and GG on this DPC tournament.

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On point with BC -1.5 but too bad Hydra didnt win the game. It was kinda 50 50 on Hydra vs One Move but I gambled on it that Hydra will win this because of their impressive run on division 2.

So anyone betting on the opening game for WEU region tomorrow? I would love to take Liquid -1.5 on this game because Boxi is back on the team but I have my doubt because GG is a tough team to beat and the odds for Liquid to win isnt that bad either compared to the classic over 2.5 maps at 1.85 odds

After the liquid makes a good run with their team mates nisha many bettors trust them again but after Boxi makes an issue because of their health conditions it's quite hard for them to play because one of player does not really play dota but instead its their analyst so I guess its quite good to make a risk again because liquid makes a good game after the game one, the reason they lose because of the draft, with the OP Lesh plus CK with IO super sustain but the liquid manages to make a comeback.

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Quote from: passwordnow on March 12, 2023, 05:31:16 PM

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The first map of NiP and 00 N seems easy. Currently, as I'm watching it, 11-3 on its score in favor of NiP. But this is just the first map of the game and there could be 2 more or just one more.
It doesn't really look good for 00 N as of typing this but who knows I'll be back at this post that I was wrong with my speculation or if they managed to have a comeback for the 2nd map.

You got to love 00N though. Even though they were being pummelled left, right, and center, they are still hyped af whenever they are getting some wins on some rounds. They really just can't get around NiP's rotation but in terms of raw aim they can perform well and go h2h against NiP. What I seem to notice is that they don't have a solid awper compared to Headtr1ck who's been really good on the gun. If they have one, mid battles would be easy and they can control most of the rotations which they simply just can't.

NiP just closed the map. Looking forward to a comeback from 00nation in the 2nd map which is Nuke, but I doubt it given that it's the pick of NiP.

Yeah, the first map goes to NiP and the map goes to 00N. Map 3 is very tight, as of watching it right now the score is tied at 9-10 in favor of 00 Nation.
It's about to end soon and I guess that it's just an icebreaker for 00N as they've won the 2nd map. You're correct that I've got to love them. And this map 3 seems to be favoring them now, they're too careful.

They've done it. NiP has a lot of good players but someone pointed out that they seem to not have any system or any methods that they need to use in order to take some rounds off of 00nation. I mean, Coldzera is obviously past his prime, but he's actually earned a lot more style points and got an even greater ADR and rating against most of NiP. Aleksib really needs to step up as an IGL and do something about the stagnance of his players. REZ is the only saving grace of NiP on most of those rounds, and headtr1ck sometimes steps up but they just couldn't if they haven't got anything to play with - no plans, no strats, no nothing.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 12, 2023, 03:21:04 PM

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The first map of NiP and 00 N seems easy. Currently, as I'm watching it, 11-3 on its score in favor of NiP. But this is just the first map of the game and there could be 2 more or just one more.
It doesn't really look good for 00 N as of typing this but who knows I'll be back at this post that I was wrong with my speculation or if they managed to have a comeback for the 2nd map.

You got to love 00N though. Even though they were being pummelled left, right, and center, they are still hyped af whenever they are getting some wins on some rounds. They really just can't get around NiP's rotation but in terms of raw aim they can perform well and go h2h against NiP. What I seem to notice is that they don't have a solid awper compared to Headtr1ck who's been really good on the gun. If they have one, mid battles would be easy and they can control most of the rotations which they simply just can't.

NiP just closed the map. Looking forward to a comeback from 00nation in the 2nd map which is Nuke, but I doubt it given that it's the pick of NiP.

Yeah, the first map goes to NiP and the map goes to 00N. Map 3 is very tight, as of watching it right now the score is tied at 9-10 in favor of 00 Nation.
It's about to end soon and I guess that it's just an icebreaker for 00N as they've won the 2nd map. You're correct that I've got to love them. And this map 3 seems to be favoring them now, they're too careful.

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The result that I can call it as a surprise was Vitality's beating FaZe by 2-0 in the upper final of Group C.

FaZe didn't give up that easy of course as we saw one overtime on each map - Anubis and Nuke. The maps weren't too bad for both teams in fact that must be why the games were pretty close. While ZywOo and Spinx were the best players for Vitality, ropz and broky were the best ones for FaZe on these maps. I mustn't forget about karrigan's extra effort on Nuke also. But all that effort didn't help them win even a single map anyway. FaZe are still going on here of course but they will play an extra round compared to Vitality I'm afraid.

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Quote from: arallmuus on March 11, 2023, 06:04:30 PM

On point with BC -1.5 but too bad Hydra didnt win the game. It was kinda 50 50 on Hydra vs One Move but I gambled on it that Hydra will win this because of their impressive run on division 2.

So anyone betting on the opening game for WEU region tomorrow? I would love to take Liquid -1.5 on this game because Boxi is back on the team but I have my doubt because GG is a tough team to beat and the odds for Liquid to win isnt that bad either compared to the classic over 2.5 maps at 1.85 odds

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Quote from: dbshck on March 12, 2023, 03:51:14 AM

For tonight's matches, I'm placing my bets on FaZe and Grayhound, also later on NiP for the 4th place decider.

Oh you missed both bets. Vitality won 2 maps against Faze. Very uncharacteristic of Faze to be swept in a match but Vitality won in both maps in overtime. And then 00Nation won against Grayhound on the decider map.

Quote from: dothebeats on March 12, 2023, 03:21:04 PM

NiP just closed the map. Looking forward to a comeback from 00nation in the 2nd map which is Nuke, but I doubt it given that it's the pick of NiP.

They won the first half and if 00Nation can continue their good game, they will be heading for the third map. Though Nuke is a NIP pick, 00Nation proved to be better on this map.

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Quote from: passwordnow on March 12, 2023, 02:47:21 PM

The first map of NiP and 00 N seems easy. Currently, as I'm watching it, 11-3 on its score in favor of NiP. But this is just the first map of the game and there could be 2 more or just one more.
It doesn't really look good for 00 N as of typing this but who knows I'll be back at this post that I was wrong with my speculation or if they managed to have a comeback for the 2nd map.

You got to love 00N though. Even though they were being pummelled left, right, and center, they are still hyped af whenever they are getting some wins on some rounds. They really just can't get around NiP's rotation but in terms of raw aim they can perform well and go h2h against NiP. What I seem to notice is that they don't have a solid awper compared to Headtr1ck who's been really good on the gun. If they have one, mid battles would be easy and they can control most of the rotations which they simply just can't.

NiP just closed the map. Looking forward to a comeback from 00nation in the 2nd map which is Nuke, but I doubt it given that it's the pick of NiP.

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In the final of the RES Eastern European Master qualifiers. Cloud9 and Voyvoda team matched in the grand final. The first map Vojvodo team chose the Inferno map, this map is pretty good and they pushed the Cloud9 team overly. The game almost went into overtime. Cloud9 really struggled. In the previous matches, the main choice of Voyvodo was always Inferno. Cloud9 probably thought they analyzed it well, rather than banning the map. Gene worked and won. Now the Overpass map is played and there is a Cloud9 team on this map that has controlled the game quite a bit. Voyvoda has been a team that has made quite a name for itself lately. Their goal is to be fixed in the top 15 teams in the HLTV rankings, and they have this potential.

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vitality made a legendary comeback against faze. Coming back from 14-1 is not something every opponent can do and vitality did it against faze. A really incredible game and comeback. I mentioned that vitality is one click better than faze in the past days, but I did not expect such a match. Both maps ended with close scores, but vitality was the winner. it should be noted that they obviously won with zywoo's performance. he is a really excellent player. we can say that we have seen again in this match that the jackz transfer was a point transfer.
Now the NiP-00Nation match continues. I expect the winner to be NiP, but anything can happen. nip finished the first half 12-3 ahead on the mirage map.

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The first map of NiP and 00 N seems easy. Currently, as I'm watching it, 11-3 on its score in favor of NiP. But this is just the first map of the game and there could be 2 more or just one more.
It doesn't really look good for 00 N as of typing this but who knows I'll be back at this post that I was wrong with my speculation or if they managed to have a comeback for the 2nd map.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 11, 2023, 05:32:04 PM

Not sure about Yamich but Armel can compete with the best of the mid laners in WEU. If given ample time for scrims, practice, and lots of tournaments, Armel can achieve success just like Abed did in previous EG. I really think that this pick up by Puppey is the best decision he's made, though I'm quite unsure of Resolution being replaced. He performed okay during their first stint of the year in the first DPC tour, while their previous mid laner needed to be dragged a lot of times on a lot of teamfights in order to be helpful to the team.

Hopefully they achieve some success on this new roster. I have lots of high hopes for Armel to do good in that region.

Was also surprised that Resolution was replaced but I guess it's a mutual decision as Reso goes with the Old G together with Ceb, Noone and Topson. So, I think that Reso did really left Team Secret for his new team.

Quote from: arallmuus on March 11, 2023, 06:04:30 PM

I thought Puppey is going to recruit Ame somehow. Imagine if any team manage to recruit this guy to play in their team, he is still a top tier pos 1 player though and still has the capability of making it to TI this year

Did he? I thought that Ame was retired for good and that's why even if there will be a rumor about him being taken by Puppey, I don't think that's gonna happen.

But I agree with you that whatever team Ame is on, it's for sure that he'll be able to carry it on.

Quote from: ralle14 on March 11, 2023, 09:51:04 PM

Both players are a solid addition to Team Secret, Armel might not be in the same level as Nisha but he's still a big upgrade over Boom.

Yamich was great during his time with VP/Outsiders so there's no need to question his skill level. I just hope their performance would be more than enough to push for the promotion back to Div 1.

Armel will improve and will learn more about the playstyle in EU unlike his playstyle with a SEA team. I just wish him all the best with his career in another region.

Quote from: Peanutswar on March 12, 2023, 06:38:27 AM

I support Filipino pride and we know how armel makes good gameplay but sometimes once he got dominated in the lane it takes time before he recovers but I guess the team secret will suitable with this because of the support they can give, if I will make a comparison with Nisha and Armel still I prefer with Nisha because of his game style, and if you are a fan of team secret too they keep supporting the Filipino pride and I guess that's why they choose armel at the same time.

All of us know that Nisha is better and has got better playing style and capability but Armel shall learn a lot from one of the best captains out there which is Puppey.

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The OG-NiP encounter was strange. I can say that OG didn't play badly, but NiP didn't play well enough to win, and OG lost due to small mistakes. NiP made a nice comeback on the vertigo map of their choice. They won 16-11 with an 11-1 performance on the CT side and this gave them morale for the next map. On Mirage map, OG's two star players Degster and Neofrag couldn't win the map despite getting 30+ kills. It's really sad for them. The OG team has not been able to settle the roster for a while, and although they have been making constant substitutions lately, it cannot be said that they have reached the roster that will ensure success in tournaments. In fact, when we look at the individual players, they are all talented players, but it just doesn't work. I don't know what it is but they might need to change coach or igl.

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