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November 18, 2022, 05:15:32 PM
So Topson will remain in SEA team. I thought he will go back to EU to join a stronger team.

This team has 3 support users with March, Whitemon and Xepher. Are they going to get another offlaner or carry member? Or one of the support will transition into that role? I wonder if that will be hard to transition to carry role from support.

I feel bad for Ana not getting back to the team. His talent is not utilized as much as OG has utilized his talent. He needs good support that understands his game play. Hope he finds another team that could do that for him.

I will wait for the official announcement of their new team. They were part of T1 before and T1 has sold the rights to another organization and that means with the record of Valve/Dota 2, they're still under the team that has just changed its name due to the selling of their rights.  Even if they've(T1) announced the release of their roster, it could be the system that still has the name of its players while changing the team name.
Anyway, if this is an official and lock roster soon, March is going to play offlane and Kuku is said to be playing the carry of it. Because he's the offlane of his former team MVP Phoenix on their 2015 roster. And do not worry about ana, he's like a premium in the dota 2 professional scene, many teams would like to get him for sure.
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November 18, 2022, 05:09:19 PM
Meanwhile, in the SEA region, T1 released their 3 remaining players Ana, Topson, and Whitemon. Plenty of shake-ups in the weaker regions as teams are mounting to have better line-ups before the new DPC begins. I am also waiting if Team Spirit will remain with their current line-up after its disastrous early TI exit.
Speaking of SEA, there were some leaks about two new SEA teams for the next season as T1 sold their slot to Bleed esports (valorant org) and RSG sold their slot to Tier One Entertainment (Blacklist International). That said, Kuku and the boys will probably get picked up by one of the two orgs.

Most probably Kuku will be acquired by Blacklist, given that he's a long-time friend of the org's CEO. He could easily use that as a leverage to further his interests and be in a team that has the capacity to acquire great players since they have the budget and the platform that not many new orgs in SEA has. It appears that not many orgs in the region are prioritizing Dota 2 anyway, so the options for these released players are very few.
I'm also hoping that Kuku will be in Blacklist after I heard that the Tryke (CEO) announced that they will be entering the Dota 2 pro scene. Sadly Kuku will be potentially on Bleed esports with his former team mates, Topson, xepher and Whitemon. The only team member that is removed to their their former t1 team is Ana which is replaced by March. I believe kuku is given a second chance playing with this former team mates. And I think he will do better this time since he was the one who was the one mostly blamed for their loss at their qualifiers. Though it is not the final roster, There couild be a chance that Kuku be acquired by Blacklist.

So Topson will remain in SEA team. I thought he will go back to EU to join a stronger team.

This team has 3 support users with March, Whitemon and Xepher. Are they going to get another offlaner or carry member? Or one of the support will transition into that role? I wonder if that will be hard to transition to carry role from support.

I feel bad for Ana not getting back to the team. His talent is not utilized as much as OG has utilized his talent. He needs good support that understands his game play. Hope he finds another team that could do that for him.
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November 18, 2022, 03:37:31 PM
Astralis' rank has already dropped to the 18th place in world ranking. They will need time to collect themselves and fight more seriously.
At least they qualified for the playoffs though so it's still not that bad of a performance even though they'll most likely lose against ENCE tomorrow.  Tongue

Meanwhile, in the SEA region, T1 released their 3 remaining players Ana, Topson, and Whitemon. Plenty of shake-ups in the weaker regions as teams are mounting to have better line-ups before the new DPC begins. I am also waiting if Team Spirit will remain with their current line-up after its disastrous early TI exit.
Speaking of SEA, there were some leaks about two new SEA teams for the next season as T1 sold their slot to Bleed esports (valorant org) and RSG sold their slot to Tier One Entertainment (Blacklist International). That said, Kuku and the boys will probably get picked up by one of the two orgs.
Players from the infrastructure are not bad at all. Astralis also invests in the long term, I think they are not in a hurry, they are just busy creating their own formation. Anyway, I'm watching the quarterfinals right now.

The music in this organization and the fact that the presenter was too excited afterwards seemed too repulsive to me. The presentation at the beginning of the Ence - Astralis match really pissed me off. Ence defends like Stone on the Mirage map, this is a defense they usually do on this map. The tactics that Astralis used were always failing. Mirage map ended 16-11, the first map went to ENCE.

Choosing Mirage against Ence really takes courage, I think Astralis chose the wrong map. Now we move on to the Ancient map of Ence's choice. This map goes to Ence and ends 2-0, I don't think it will be a surprise.
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November 18, 2022, 08:45:27 AM
A lot of changes in Dota 2 scene in all region  Shocked. This new team Bleed Esports looks promising in the future as they signed great talents as Whitemoon is for sure a top tier support right now.

I do hope that Kuku will finally leave the memes behind him and he will focus a lot more on Dota 2.

What is next for Ana ? Going back to EU division ?

Regarding Team Spirit , I think they will change the line very soon as there were rumors that Toronto wants to quits and form his own team....

I’m surprised about this announcement not because T1 old roster forme a new team but because the role on this roster for pos 1 is unknown. Is it Kuku or March who will get the carry role. I’m surprised if March will be pos 1 since he is the coach and only play support while Kuku as pos 1 is already not good because he is already outdated and can’t even play properly as offlane of there team. I hope the new roster is not final because Topson will just waste his time for that team composition.

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November 18, 2022, 08:28:40 AM
A lot of changes in Dota 2 scene in all region  Shocked. This new team Bleed Esports looks promising in the future as they signed great talents as Whitemoon is for sure a top tier support right now.

I do hope that Kuku will finally leave the memes behind him and he will focus a lot more on Dota 2.

What is next for Ana ? Going back to EU division ?

Regarding Team Spirit , I think they will change the line very soon as there were rumors that Toronto wants to quits and form his own team....
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November 18, 2022, 07:40:21 AM
Meanwhile, in the SEA region, T1 released their 3 remaining players Ana, Topson, and Whitemon. Plenty of shake-ups in the weaker regions as teams are mounting to have better line-ups before the new DPC begins. I am also waiting if Team Spirit will remain with their current line-up after its disastrous early TI exit.
Speaking of SEA, there were some leaks about two new SEA teams for the next season as T1 sold their slot to Bleed esports (valorant org) and RSG sold their slot to Tier One Entertainment (Blacklist International). That said, Kuku and the boys will probably get picked up by one of the two orgs.

Most probably Kuku will be acquired by Blacklist, given that he's a long-time friend of the org's CEO. He could easily use that as a leverage to further his interests and be in a team that has the capacity to acquire great players since they have the budget and the platform that not many new orgs in SEA has. It appears that not many orgs in the region are prioritizing Dota 2 anyway, so the options for these released players are very few.
I'm also hoping that Kuku will be in Blacklist after I heard that the Tryke (CEO) announced that they will be entering the Dota 2 pro scene. Sadly Kuku will be potentially on Bleed esports with his former team mates, Topson, xepher and Whitemon. The only team member that is removed to their their former t1 team is Ana which is replaced by March. I believe kuku is given a second chance playing with this former team mates. And I think he will do better this time since he was the one who was the one mostly blamed for their loss at their qualifiers. Though it is not the final roster, There couild be a chance that Kuku be acquired by Blacklist.


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November 17, 2022, 07:16:28 PM
Meanwhile, in the SEA region, T1 released their 3 remaining players Ana, Topson, and Whitemon. Plenty of shake-ups in the weaker regions as teams are mounting to have better line-ups before the new DPC begins. I am also waiting if Team Spirit will remain with their current line-up after its disastrous early TI exit.
Speaking of SEA, there were some leaks about two new SEA teams for the next season as T1 sold their slot to Bleed esports (valorant org) and RSG sold their slot to Tier One Entertainment (Blacklist International). That said, Kuku and the boys will probably get picked up by one of the two orgs.

Most probably Kuku will be acquired by Blacklist, given that he's a long-time friend of the org's CEO. He could easily use that as a leverage to further his interests and be in a team that has the capacity to acquire great players since they have the budget and the platform that not many new orgs in SEA has. It appears that not many orgs in the region are prioritizing Dota 2 anyway, so the options for these released players are very few.
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November 17, 2022, 05:50:28 PM
Astralis' rank has already dropped to the 18th place in world ranking. They will need time to collect themselves and fight more seriously.
At least they qualified for the playoffs though so it's still not that bad of a performance even though they'll most likely lose against ENCE tomorrow.  Tongue

Meanwhile, in the SEA region, T1 released their 3 remaining players Ana, Topson, and Whitemon. Plenty of shake-ups in the weaker regions as teams are mounting to have better line-ups before the new DPC begins. I am also waiting if Team Spirit will remain with their current line-up after its disastrous early TI exit.
Speaking of SEA, there were some leaks about two new SEA teams for the next season as T1 sold their slot to Bleed esports (valorant org) and RSG sold their slot to Tier One Entertainment (Blacklist International). That said, Kuku and the boys will probably get picked up by one of the two orgs.
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November 17, 2022, 04:42:17 PM
There is a new tournament named Elisa Masters Espoo going on these days. ~snip~

I was hopeful about Astralis this time. Because they have signed device after a long time. This returnal was really great news for Astralis and it must have been even enough for firing them up again. But clearly there is nothing changed now. They are still a mess. I saw that they lost to 500 by a score like 16-1. Can you imagine how terrible they are now? By the way device wasn't a part of this match though and Kristou played in his place temporarily. But it didn't even seem like they would have a big hope for the win even if they had device instead.

Astralis' rank has already dropped to the 18th place in world ranking. They will need time to collect themselves and fight more seriously.
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November 17, 2022, 04:24:19 PM
The org has a focus on how to make money and to invest into buying and maintaining SA teams has to be much cheaper then NA.  If they can play just as well or at least gain many positions in order to improve value then any org has to be tempted to take that opportunity.  Ultimately they go where the best returns vs risk is and some places you can pay alot of money and the team falls apart because of egos, Esports is high risk imo because of that and many reasons.
This is so true about EG, they're one of the strongest teams in the region and they're spending a lot to maintain their roster but it's not doing well for the company.

The focus is really to make profit and not just from the sponsors and advertisers but mainly to the tournament prizes and EG fell short with that. Good thing to know that the ex-EG roster will still be playing together as captain Fly said on his stream on twitch, although there could be a change maybe one will be out. He said it around 11 minutes of the video. --> https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1654327876?sr=a&t=620s or if you don't want to click that link which is directly to his verified twitch account, search his twitch account --> talflyaizik


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November 17, 2022, 03:04:50 PM
The rumor tend to be true about EG releasing their current roster and picking up the SA team. As for these pro players, they want to stay in the NA because the competition there isn't as tough as the EU and CIS region.

I guess all of the contracts of the 6 man of EG has expired and EG has seen that they need to change their way to see some new changes of their Dota 2 team.

Good choice though as these SA players have shown that they've got what it takes to put their performances in the next level. I'm sure that they'll improve a lot having this huge org on their back.

South American teams did quite well last season and in TI so maybe EG has thought that would be better if they hire SA players to be on their roster.

We will be missing Arteezy though in EG. He has been in EG for quite some time now. Hope he finds a good team to join next DPC season. There are lots of team changing their roster, so maybe one of them will pick up Arteezy
Yes, they really did well and that's why EG wants to invest into those talents because they're not that expensive at all unlike their last roster who's composed of experienced ones and quite expensive for sure.

As for our boy Artour, he'll surely find a new team as he's still one of the most desirable carries that they've got. If he's going to stay in NA, he should also have those teammates that has been experienced for them to reach the next TI.
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November 17, 2022, 09:33:26 AM
There is a new tournament named Elisa Masters Espoo going on these days. The prize pool is $200k. The winner gets $100k + IEM Katowice play-in quota.

Considering that it is a quite important tournament for the teams joined. There are some big teams such as fnatic, Astralis, BIG and ENCE in the group stage now. GamerLegion were looking like a team that might make some surprises in this also. However the Group A games have finished and they are out now. Sprout, ENCE and BIG have advanced. There is no surprise here because Sprout also have a good ranking (21) now.

This is Group B:



Astralis, fnatic and Bad News Eagles are my favourites here. fnatic couldn't start very well maybe but I'm hopeful about them to recover. After the group matches end we are going to continue with quarter finals.
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November 17, 2022, 06:29:09 AM
I wonder why EG relocates to South America when they can just sign players from that region and still base themselves in North America. South America is becoming a tougher region if this becomes a reality and NA can become a haven for those players and teams wanting an easier slot at the majors and TI.
There are more upsides for both the players and the org if they stay in SA and I doubt their soon to be announced squad will have a tough time as those players have been consistent last season.

You may be right. For now, 3 former Thunder Awaken players Pakazs, Matthew and Pandaboo are most likely heading toward EG while the other 2 players were already with beastcoast. So it is only TSM of NA's big 3 teams that didn't release its full line-up. Soniqs earlier released all its players. I am curious if the players come back as Quincy Crew or if they will test the market. 

Meanwhile, in the SEA region, T1 released their 3 remaining players Ana, Topson, and Whitemon. Plenty of shake-ups in the weaker regions as teams are mounting to have better line-ups before the new DPC begins. I am also waiting if Team Spirit will remain with their current line-up after its disastrous early TI exit.
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November 16, 2022, 08:14:44 PM
The org has a focus on how to make money and to invest into buying and maintaining SA teams has to be much cheaper then NA.  If they can play just as well or at least gain many positions in order to improve value then any org has to be tempted to take that opportunity.  Ultimately they go where the best returns vs risk is and some places you can pay alot of money and the team falls apart because of egos, Esports is high risk imo because of that and many reasons.
This is so on point and with how EG org has been operating nowadays, they're prioritizing profits even if it means they have to drop the entire roster.

I wonder why EG relocates to South America when they can just sign players from that region and still base themselves in North America. South America is becoming a tougher region if this becomes a reality and NA can become a haven for those players and teams wanting an easier slot at the majors and TI.
There are more upsides for both the players and the org if they stay in SA and I doubt their soon to be announced squad will have a tough time as those players have been consistent last season.



I didn't see this one coming, kennyS back to the scene as he's picked up by Team Falcons.  Shocked
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November 16, 2022, 07:58:18 PM
The org has a focus on how to make money and to invest into buying and maintaining SA teams has to be much cheaper then NA.  If they can play just as well or at least gain many positions in order to improve value then any org has to be tempted to take that opportunity.  Ultimately they go where the best returns vs risk is and some places you can pay alot of money and the team falls apart because of egos, Esports is high risk imo because of that and many reasons.

I think the rise of Outsiders like this is very ironic, perhaps being cast out as it were and 'oppressed' almost literally as per their name; this helped unite and give them a greater fight when others would have slipped.  It only takes a map, slight mistakes and you lose the series maybe come 4th not 1st with a fairly massive cash difference.
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November 16, 2022, 07:54:14 PM
EG officially announced that they'll be dropping their roster and their CEO dropped a hint on their next move which is likely toward a new SA team. There are also rumors about RTZ staying in the NA region which makes sense since NA doesn't look that stacked when you compare it to the EU or CN region where half of the teams are deserving to go to the major.

https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses/status/1592564341311668225 (roster drop)
https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses/status/1592563383559135232 (CEO video)
The rumor tend to be true about EG releasing their current roster and picking up the SA team. As for these pro players, they want to stay in the NA because the competition there isn't as tough as the EU and CIS region.

I guess all of the contracts of the 6 man of EG has expired and EG has seen that they need to change their way to see some new changes of their Dota 2 team.

Good choice though as these SA players have shown that they've got what it takes to put their performances in the next level. I'm sure that they'll improve a lot having this huge org on their back.

South American teams did quite well last season and in TI so maybe EG has thought that would be better if they hire SA players to be on their roster.

We will be missing Arteezy though in EG. He has been in EG for quite some time now. Hope he finds a good team to join next DPC season. There are lots of team changing their roster, so maybe one of them will pick up Arteezy
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November 16, 2022, 05:35:04 PM
EG officially announced that they'll be dropping their roster and their CEO dropped a hint on their next move which is likely toward a new SA team. There are also rumors about RTZ staying in the NA region which makes sense since NA doesn't look that stacked when you compare it to the EU or CN region where half of the teams are deserving to go to the major.

https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses/status/1592564341311668225 (roster drop)
https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses/status/1592563383559135232 (CEO video)
The rumor tend to be true about EG releasing their current roster and picking up the SA team. As for these pro players, they want to stay in the NA because the competition there isn't as tough as the EU and CIS region.

I guess all of the contracts of the 6 man of EG has expired and EG has seen that they need to change their way to see some new changes of their Dota 2 team.

Good choice though as these SA players have shown that they've got what it takes to put their performances in the next level. I'm sure that they'll improve a lot having this huge org on their back.
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November 16, 2022, 05:29:26 PM
Eternal Fire are really terrible now. They have started to make changes in their roster again lately. We have seen woxic leaving the team to look for other opportunities from now on. This has made me really surprised to be honest. Because if someone was going to leave than that person should have been XANTARES definitely. Because he is like one of the best CS:GO players in the world now. He is just wasting his time with this team whose future is even ambiguous.

They played a tournament match today against HONORIS and there was some player named "hey" as a stand-in after woxic's departure. He had an average performance. However the team lost this match also by 2-1 and they were eliminated in the tournament as well. I don't see a bright future for this team to be honest.
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The Martian Child
November 16, 2022, 01:46:19 PM
EG officially announced that they'll be dropping their roster and their CEO dropped a hint on their next move which is likely toward a new SA team. There are also rumors about RTZ staying in the NA region which makes sense since NA doesn't look that stacked when you compare it to the EU or CN region where half of the teams are deserving to go to the major.

https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses/status/1592564341311668225 (roster drop)
https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses/status/1592563383559135232 (CEO video)

Yeah, the video seemed obvious that EG is headed into South America. I lost track already of the current situation in South America, but it seems EG will take any of the players that have been released by Thunder Awaken. I doubt they can take any of the current line-up from beastcoast.

I wonder why EG relocates to South America when they can just sign players from that region and still base themselves in North America. South America is becoming a tougher region if this becomes a reality and NA can become a haven for those players and teams wanting an easier slot at the majors and TI.
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November 15, 2022, 09:00:25 PM
EG officially announced that they'll be dropping their roster and their CEO dropped a hint on their next move which is likely toward a new SA team. There are also rumors about RTZ staying in the NA region which makes sense since NA doesn't look that stacked when you compare it to the EU or CN region where half of the teams are deserving to go to the major.

https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses/status/1592564341311668225 (roster drop)
https://twitter.com/EvilGeniuses/status/1592563383559135232 (CEO video)

Wow! Faze dropped a lot. From top 1 to number 8.
It's still not that bad considering they went 0-3 and Vitality dropped the same number of rankings regardless of going 1-3.
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