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Quote from: arallmuus on January 23, 2023, 11:21:27 AM

Quote from: jakelyson on January 23, 2023, 04:53:11 AM

Team Liquid is dominating too much this tour that I am inclined to believe they will not lose a map this tour. So I am betting this game to be under 2.5 maps. Gaming Gladiators are good but Team Liquid is almost perfect in drafting and executing their plays.

Thats a pretty safe option right there, I mean I would go for Liquid -1.5 on this game just to increase the odds but under 2.5 maps works as well in case GG somehow win 2 maps in a row. Pretty slim chance there because Liquid is so dominating this season with their new roster, they might even make it to TI this time through DPC points

Too bad for my parlay, Gaimin Gladiators were able to win the 2nd map thus losing my bet. I was not able to watch the first two maps but on the third map, Team Liquid totally dominated Gaimin Gladiators. Team Liquid is still at the top of the ranking in WEU.

Too bad for your bet with ITB, Team Secret suddenly found their grove and made perfect drafting and execution of their play. They dominated ITB in both maps. I think with this win, Team Secret still have a chance not to be relegated back to Div 2 if they win against Nigma on Friday.

Better luck next time for both of us.

Quote from: ralle14 on January 23, 2023, 05:24:03 PM

It'll be impressive if they somehow win the series since this could easily secure them a spot for the major given the remaining series they have in the next few days.

I think they will qualify since top 4 will qualify for major. Their remaining games are against Tundra and ITB. I think they can win against ITB. Unless Entity will be able to beat Tundra, then GG is quite secured with their spot.

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Quote from: arallmuus on January 23, 2023, 04:50:38 PM

It seems like we are going to be losing the TL -1.5 as well lol. Nah I dont really think that Secret improved though but ITB was just that bad I guess. I had high hopes on ITB but they ended up surprisingly bad. Anyway, GG is currently dominating in the 2nd map so good chances that GG is going to win 2nd map. Small glimpse of hope to win for Liquid

There it is lol they actually made TL drop a map, a surprising Huskar last pick from Quinn, and he made Nisha's Ember suffer so hard in the lane and couldn't catch up until the end.

It'll be impressive if they somehow win the series since this could easily secure them a spot for the major given the remaining series they have in the next few days.

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Quote from: ralle14 on January 23, 2023, 03:18:42 PM

Both of my bets ended up losing but what an improvement from Team Secret they finally get their first series win. Hopefully, they can maintain that performance on Friday for their last series to avoid a potential tiebreaker.

Quote from: arallmuus on January 23, 2023, 11:21:27 AM

Thats a pretty safe option right there, I mean I would go for Liquid -1.5 on this game just to increase the odds but under 2.5 maps works as well in case GG somehow win 2 maps in a row. Pretty slim chance there because Liquid is so dominating this season with their new roster, they might even make it to TI this time through DPC points

Same, I went for TL -1.5 because of the better odds, I would've gone with the totals if it's the other way around.

It seems like we are going to be losing the TL -1.5 as well lol. Nah I dont really think that Secret improved though but ITB was just that bad I guess. I had high hopes on ITB but they ended up surprisingly bad. Anyway, GG is currently dominating in the 2nd map so good chances that GG is going to win 2nd map. Small glimpse of hope to win for Liquid

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Both of my bets ended up losing but what an improvement from Team Secret they finally get their first series win. Hopefully, they can maintain that performance on Friday for their last series to avoid a potential tiebreaker.

Quote from: arallmuus on January 23, 2023, 11:21:27 AM

Thats a pretty safe option right there, I mean I would go for Liquid -1.5 on this game just to increase the odds but under 2.5 maps works as well in case GG somehow win 2 maps in a row. Pretty slim chance there because Liquid is so dominating this season with their new roster, they might even make it to TI this time through DPC points

Same, I went for TL -1.5 because of the better odds, I would've gone with the totals if it's the other way around.

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Quote from: Jossque on January 23, 2023, 12:38:58 PM

The Blast premier tournament continues perfectly. Today we opened the day with a G2-NaVi match. The first map was nuke, which NaVi chose. NaVi couldn't perform the way he wanted and lost. With Niko's incredible performance, G2 won the map easily.The second map was chosen by G2. In this map, which was more equal, G2 won at the end of overtime. It should be said that Niko and monesy won the match for his team.

You can't discount hunter's clutches and economy damage too. He's got a few rounds at his belt that really disabled Navi's economy and can't buy for the next round. While that may not be as explosive and as flashy as Niko and m0nesy's highlights, it definitely made their lives easier as they're up against half buys and pistols for most of the time.

2nd map, I thought Navi was going to come back after they pulled off lots of consecutive round wins on the second half. They almost had it but electronic really had to be the bot that needs to be carried always.

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Quote from: Jossque on January 23, 2023, 12:38:58 PM

The Blast premier tournament continues perfectly. Today we opened the day with a G2-NaVi match. The first map was nuke, which NaVi chose. NaVi couldn't perform the way he wanted and lost. With Niko's incredible performance, G2 won the map easily.The second map was chosen by G2. In this map, which was more equal, G2 won at the end of overtime. It should be said that Niko and monesy won the match for his team.

The G2 is in incredible growth. This was more or less evident in the tournaments before the holiday break. As a team, they play a holistic game, I was a little embarrassed about Hooxi, I criticized it a lot when it first came, but now the tactics and individual game he gives are very different from the past. Group C will probably have a rematch. It is very likely that Navi and G2 will meet. The NIP-BIG match is being played in the lower bracket, which is a close match at the moment. The winning team that will then be matched by Navi.

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The Blast premier tournament continues perfectly. Today we opened the day with a G2-NaVi match. The first map was nuke, which NaVi chose. NaVi couldn't perform the way he wanted and lost. With Niko's incredible performance, G2 won the map easily.The second map was chosen by G2. In this map, which was more equal, G2 won at the end of overtime. It should be said that Niko and monesy won the match for his team.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 23, 2023, 04:53:11 AM

Team Liquid is dominating too much this tour that I am inclined to believe they will not lose a map this tour. So I am betting this game to be under 2.5 maps. Gaming Gladiators are good but Team Liquid is almost perfect in drafting and executing their plays.

Thats a pretty safe option right there, I mean I would go for Liquid -1.5 on this game just to increase the odds but under 2.5 maps works as well in case GG somehow win 2 maps in a row. Pretty slim chance there because Liquid is so dominating this season with their new roster, they might even make it to TI this time through DPC points

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Good thing I never locked Na'Vi +1.5 because it seems like they won't take a map against G2. G2 has been playing well since the first map, and m0nesy, hunter and niko are the key elements of G2 in winning rounds and getting important clutches. Although on the side of Navi, you can see Perfecto and S1mple trying to make a difference in all of these rounds but unfortunately, electronic plays like a bot and walks in between enemy fire and just dies anywhere. This is quite unfortunate for S1mple who's trying to get better placements in tournaments, and you can see the man's frustrations whenever the cam is focused on him.

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Taking some action with DPC WEU later.

OG vs Entity

For me, OG and Entity are almost equal in power. I think this will go the full match and over 2.5 maps.

Team Liquid vs Gladiators

Team Liquid is dominating too much this tour that I am inclined to believe they will not lose a map this tour. So I am betting this game to be under 2.5 maps. Gaming Gladiators are good but Team Liquid is almost perfect in drafting and executing their plays.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 22, 2023, 05:02:34 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on January 22, 2023, 03:40:29 PM

If that happens then they'll just have to meet back there and they'll be just back again to division 1 after being relegated to division 2. But, these days, I've seen the good unknown teams that are beating the tier 1 / division 1 teams assess.

That is too bad though, they will be missing a lot of DPC tournaments relegated to Division 2. And they cannot come back to DIV 1 until the second tour. And you are right, there are strong teams now in division 2 that can beat Div 1 teams. So, if Team Spirit cannot find a suitable replacement for BOOM (if they decide to replace him), they will not be able to move up to Div 1. If this continues, we might see them again in Last Chance Qualifier. It is just a waste that they let go of Nisha when they are still completely good with their roster. Just look at Team Liquid. They lost Matu but Nisha is doing really well replacing him. They are continuing their streak from their run in TI last season and seem to be stronger. That should have been Team Secret if they kept their roster last season.

I don't know how many to be exact but yeah, that's bad on their part as the time is passing by so fast and for these teams that have been or about to be relegated to division 2. It's possible that they'll also have the same fate there and will have hard time taking down teams that are also competitive especially those with young talents that haven't discovered yet but has the potential. If I were them, I'll take plans of changing roster and will scout younger talents and remove those that has to be removed and will take them as analyst or coach for the experience.

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Quote from: passwordnow on January 22, 2023, 03:40:29 PM

If that happens then they'll just have to meet back there and they'll be just back again to division 1 after being relegated to division 2. But, these days, I've seen the good unknown teams that are beating the tier 1 / division 1 teams assess.

That is too bad though, they will be missing a lot of DPC tournaments relegated to Division 2. And they cannot come back to DIV 1 until the second tour. And you are right, there are strong teams now in division 2 that can beat Div 1 teams. So, if Team Spirit cannot find a suitable replacement for BOOM (if they decide to replace him), they will not be able to move up to Div 1. If this continues, we might see them again in Last Chance Qualifier. It is just a waste that they let go of Nisha when they are still completely good with their roster. Just look at Team Liquid. They lost Matu but Nisha is doing really well replacing him. They are continuing their streak from their run in TI last season and seem to be stronger. That should have been Team Secret if they kept their roster last season.

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Quote from: arallmuus on January 20, 2023, 02:04:22 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on January 19, 2023, 08:41:55 PM

Well, Nigma looks going to be back at division II.

Yeah at this rate, they are going back to division 2. Im not even going to be betting on them because most of the time they are kinda weird. Sometimes I took the opposite team to win on 2 maps against them then Nigma ended winning a game so yeah Im not even going to touch anything with Nigma on it for now. Probably taking something on 27th on the game between Nigma and Secret, both are pretty bad right now

Just to save money, I'll also avoid betting on them and it's not worth it at all no more comebacks on this when the rank they currently have spoken for themselves. The Nigma and Secret would really be good to gamble because both teams are struggling and the bet there is just going to be for the sake of fun.

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That's the challenge that they need to face, winning all of those three games but will they dominate with all of that? I have doubts on that as they're lackluster for all the past games that they've got. Three games are with:

Tundra
ITB
NGX

A not stacked team named ITB is even at a higher ranking currently against Team Secret and Nigma. Well, Nigma looks going to be back at division II.

On these teams, only NGX is the possible team that Team Secret can defeat, while in Tundra and ITB there is a high chance that they'll get their asses kicked. Pretty sure NGX and Team Secret will go back to Division 2 and get lower exposure in tournaments there, which is just apt considering their performances lately. Here I was hoping that whoever they replaced Nisha with in TS will perform well. In NGX, Ammar isn't really the problem, though his aggressiveness is somewhat costing Nigma a lot and they can't seem to match the kid's tempo when it comes to mid game strats.

If that happens then they'll just have to meet back there and they'll be just back again to division 1 after being relegated to division 2. But, these days, I've seen the good unknown teams that are beating the tier 1 / division 1 teams assess.

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Astralis are still the same team having the same problems. They lost to Heroic by 2-1 as I expected and they have one last chance left in the tournament. If they finish the knockout stage successfully they can still maintain their presence. Otherwise they are out. No matter what team they face among the participants it feels like Astralis will still lose. The chemistry is still not good enough.

There is a G2 vs Natus Vincere matchup tomorrow. G2 have been seeming better than their opponent in the recent times. They beat Natus Vincere in the ESL Pro League in their most recent matchup. I will give G2 another chance for the win here.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 22, 2023, 09:24:15 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on January 22, 2023, 02:22:28 AM

ITB -1.5 not included in a parlay is a good bet IMO. Still has lots of value and is also somewhat plausible to win given the state at which Team Secret plays currently. Whatever is happening to Team Secret is quite unfortunate, and just goes to show that most of their strength as a team previously was reliant to Nisha who is performing quite well in Team Liquid. Boom has very big shoes to fill in, and he needs to do this in a short span of time if he wants to be included in Div 1 and not grind it out for the rest of the season and not be included in huge tournaments.

I am not sure that is a good line. I think -1.5 is too much. Sure, Team Secret is in a disarray right now and they not making any wins but I do not think that ITB will win 2 straight maps against Team Secret. ITB is weak in doing the drafts and against Puppey who is a master in drafting, I think Team Secret has a better edge against ITB. I do not know the odds for that line, but I am guessing it is not enough for that risk.

If they are relegated to Div II, I think Boom will be replaced. Boom just do not click with Team Secret. Out of 5 matches they played, they only won 1 map. That is a very poor performance and if you do not know team Secret, you will not believe that they are a Finalist in TI last season.

This is why I am betting against them heavily. They managed to be in the TI grand finals in 2022 but all of a sudden they are crumbling just because they lost 1 man on the TI squad. Even Reso and Zayac cannot carry BOOM even though in the last matches against other teams, these guys are working extra to help secure farm for Crystallis and enable BOOM in the midlane. We know Puppey is a master of drafts in Dota 2, but what does that hold when they can't figure out what to do in the game?

ITB -1.5 with low stake is good. It is a juicy bet with over 2 odds the last time I checked. Not a sure win bet, but still a high chance of hitting given how paralyzed Secret seems right now.

Hopefully they replace BOOM if they go down Div 2, which has a high chance of coming true. Give Reso mid and get someone in the 3 position and maybe they have a fighting chance.

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 22, 2023, 02:22:28 AM

ITB -1.5 not included in a parlay is a good bet IMO. Still has lots of value and is also somewhat plausible to win given the state at which Team Secret plays currently. Whatever is happening to Team Secret is quite unfortunate, and just goes to show that most of their strength as a team previously was reliant to Nisha who is performing quite well in Team Liquid. Boom has very big shoes to fill in, and he needs to do this in a short span of time if he wants to be included in Div 1 and not grind it out for the rest of the season and not be included in huge tournaments.

I am not sure that is a good line. I think -1.5 is too much. Sure, Team Secret is in a disarray right now and they not making any wins but I do not think that ITB will win 2 straight maps against Team Secret. ITB is weak in doing the drafts and against Puppey who is a master in drafting, I think Team Secret has a better edge against ITB. I do not know the odds for that line, but I am guessing it is not enough for that risk.

If they are relegated to Div II, I think Boom will be replaced. Boom just do not click with Team Secret. Out of 5 matches they played, they only won 1 map. That is a very poor performance and if you do not know team Secret, you will not believe that they are a Finalist in TI last season.

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Quote from: arallmuus on January 21, 2023, 03:12:49 PM

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Anyway, Im taking Tundra -1.5 against Secret

Nice win on Tundra, I skipped them thinking they might troll again, and settled with a small parlay between OG -1.5 and Liquid -1.5 for 1.89 odds. Grin

The odds for the Sunday games seem interesting, Team Liquid @1.52 vs Gladiators is too good, and OG @1.45 vs Entity as well I might put these two in a parlay.

What about adding ITB in between for the parlay? I honestly think that ITB would be able to win a game against Secret and at some point, they might be able to win against Secret considering how bad Secret is this season. Might even take ITB -1.5 in this game for lower stake but yeah I'll think about it later, still few days to go

ITB -1.5 not included in a parlay is a good bet IMO. Still has lots of value and is also somewhat plausible to win given the state at which Team Secret plays currently. Whatever is happening to Team Secret is quite unfortunate, and just goes to show that most of their strength as a team previously was reliant to Nisha who is performing quite well in Team Liquid. Boom has very big shoes to fill in, and he needs to do this in a short span of time if he wants to be included in Div 1 and not grind it out for the rest of the season and not be included in huge tournaments.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 21, 2023, 12:57:02 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on January 20, 2023, 02:04:22 PM

Anyway, Im taking Tundra -1.5 against Secret

Congrats! That is a good bet. Tundra has beaten Team Secret so easily. Just 24 minutes in game 1 and 36 minutes in game 2. Team Secret is still winless in this tour. For sure they will be back to Division 2.

after Team Secret sold its flagship player Nisha, Team Secret performance became weak in these several matches. a disappointment when i used to be Team Secret was my favorite team in dota 2 and now i have forgotten that team. I think that in the past few matches Team Secret still has hope of winning, but in reality I always lose when I bet on Team Secret, it's really bad.
and I'm sure, Team Secret will always be bad in this DPC match and it is Team Liquid + Tundra who will have the upper hand in this season's DPC

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Quote from: arallmuus on January 21, 2023, 03:12:49 PM

What about adding ITB in between for the parlay? I honestly think that ITB would be able to win a game against Secret and at some point, they might be able to win against Secret considering how bad Secret is this season. Might even take ITB -1.5 in this game for lower stake but yeah I'll think about it later, still few days to go

Good call, after the odds dropped significantly on OG and Team Liquid i've done just that Grin

and got a total odds of 2.18 on all three(with ITB+1.5).

I might also bet on Geek Slate(4-0) to win @1.65 vs Talon Esports(2-2) since they're close to securing the first major spot in their region and last week they 2-0'd a couple of good teams like Bleed and Execration.

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Quote from: ralle14 on January 20, 2023, 08:04:57 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on January 20, 2023, 02:04:22 PM

Anyway, Im taking Tundra -1.5 against Secret

Nice win on Tundra, I skipped them thinking they might troll again, and settled with a small parlay between OG -1.5 and Liquid -1.5 for 1.89 odds. Grin

The odds for the Sunday games seem interesting, Team Liquid @1.52 vs Gladiators is too good, and OG @1.45 vs Entity as well I might put these two in a parlay.

What about adding ITB in between for the parlay? I honestly think that ITB would be able to win a game against Secret and at some point, they might be able to win against Secret considering how bad Secret is this season. Might even take ITB -1.5 in this game for lower stake but yeah I'll think about it later, still few days to go

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