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October 20, 2023, 01:23:13 PM
Wooah wooah.

There's some catch for the first match of Virtus.Pro and Team Spirit. Although the series hasn't ended yet but the first map was won by Virtus.Pro. Are they going to send Team Spirit in the lower bracket?

We're going to see that on the 2nd map if VP will still win or if Team Spirit will manage to make a redeem of themselves. 2nd map is on and they're now at the start of pickings while I am typing this.
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October 20, 2023, 12:21:21 PM
I am back again and this time I use a single bet for Team Spirit and still choose to bet on the kill but this time I choose the kill handicap -8.5 with odds @1.42
I believe that Team Spirit will be able to get over 20+ kills and Virtus.pro will probably get under 20.
good luck today for me.
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Dimon69
October 20, 2023, 11:45:49 AM
I didn’t expect that the odds was so good x1.48, I expected to see it in the area of x1.2 - 1.3. It's strange why bookmakers give so much. In this case, I still have time to think about betting on them.

It’s expected since it’s a -1.5 handicap for a best of 3 match. I think the odds that you mention is for the ML pick. Bookmaker still playing safe despite TS is a heavy favorite favorite.

By the way, the odds for winning Team Sipirt TI12 are already 2.50. I'm wondering how many people bet on this? It will be interesting if a crowd of people put tons of money here and this doesn’t happen.

Almost everyone I guess. GG was supposed to be the one who can match TS in terms of gameplay yet they are already on the lower bracket struggling since group stage. So far, Team Liquid and LGD is the closest team who can stop them but TS on TI form is very hard to beat.

Count me in to bet TS to win TI.
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October 20, 2023, 10:24:13 AM
LoL Worlds  2023 draw  for swiss stage 3 was  made today and its an EU vs NA matchup in the  1-1 bracket to decide the team that will go 2-1 and just one BO3 awat from the playoffs

After  todays insane comeback vs  weibo, G2 are made to play against JDG now in the 2-0 bracket  Grin Grin

legendary
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October 20, 2023, 07:45:01 AM
9Pandas was fined for being late for makeup, and now they have lost 110 seconds of bonus time. I'll laugh if it doesn't affect their pick and they end up winning the game. I think they have drafts and are well prepared, so this won't cause them much damage.

I would still pick Team Spirit over 9Pandas even without this advantage. Out of the last 10 games of Team Spirit including those before TI, They have only lose a single map. Thats a total domination over the game shown by Team spirit, obviously this would be another 2-0 for them



I know right this is not going to hit but I just cant help myself to bet like this lol



it could be easily over 2.5 maps on Talon vs Liquid for sure, I have taken another single bet on that but this is a fun parlay to begin the playoff with
I didn’t expect that the odds was so good x1.48, I expected to see it in the area of x1.2 - 1.3. It's strange why bookmakers give so much. In this case, I still have time to think about betting on them.

Total odds 15.4, wow, of course the chance is small, but we have already seen so many things at TI that this could very well happen, in any case I wish you good luck. Insanely interesting play-off matches await us, how I adore the playoffs and when teams fight to the last in them.

By the way, the odds for winning Team Sipirt TI12 are already 2.50. I'm wondering how many people bet on this? It will be interesting if a crowd of people put tons of money here and this doesn’t happen.
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October 20, 2023, 07:39:48 AM
I would still pick Team Spirit over 9Pandas even without this advantage. Out of the last 10 games of Team Spirit including those before TI, They have only lose a single map. Thats a total domination over the game shown by Team spirit, obviously this would be another 2-0 for them
Team Spirit is without a doubt the best team now based on this TI 12. I think to remove the confusion, Valve should just remove the '12' and just make it official the 2023 and also the upcoming one. Anyway, it's not that much to think of, and going back to Team Spirit, they're a better team than 9Pandas but I don't think that they'll ever face anymore in this tournament based on their bracketing.

it could be easily over 2.5 maps on Talon vs Liquid for sure, I have taken another single bet on that but this is a fun parlay to begin the playoff with
I've already cast my bet on this one, I'll go for Talon and I just wanna go with the odds on this one and that's just for the match winner. Whether it's 2-1 or 2-0 as long as it's Talon, I'd win.  Grin
But it won't hurt me if Talon falls against Team Liquid and they'll easily win against them. Anyway, we might see some surprising heroes, carries, and supports on this one. Anyway, talking about Topson, did you guys see that he's been practicing Magnus on the pub games? Maybe he's up to it and not a bad hero in mid, tank, strong laner and quick farmer too.
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October 20, 2023, 07:27:57 AM
9Pandas was fined for being late for makeup, and now they have lost 110 seconds of bonus time. I'll laugh if it doesn't affect their pick and they end up winning the game. I think they have drafts and are well prepared, so this won't cause them much damage.

I would still pick LGD over 9Pandas even without this advantage. Out of the last 10 games of Team Spirit including those before TI, They have only lose a single map. Thats a total domination over the game shown by Team spirit, obviously this would be another 2-0 for them



I know right this is not going to hit but I just cant help myself to bet like this lol



it could be easily over 2.5 maps on Talon vs Liquid for sure, I have taken another single bet on that but this is a fun parlay to begin the playoff with
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October 20, 2023, 07:21:45 AM
A new treasure Crimson Witness 2023, has been released, but will only be available to TI12 visitors. An interesting decision, of course, it won't affect the TI12 prize pool due to the fact that the coverage of people is extremely small. I would like the treasury to be made available to everyone who has a battle pass much earlier.
I think that they'll make available to everyone soon.

9Pandas was fined for being late for makeup, and now they have lost 110 seconds of bonus time. I'll laugh if it doesn't affect their pick and they end up winning the game. I think they have drafts and are well prepared, so this won't cause them much damage.
IIRC, there was a team that has been penalized with this as well for their picking time. But I guess that this won't be a matter to them as they'll plan their picks and strategies. Like they have already a preplanned heroes and lineup against LGD gaming.

Finally, the day of the playoffs has arrived, I'm already tired of waiting for it. Today the Dota 2 celebration will continue, cheers
Yeah, it was like forever when we've waited for this to come and it's a three day action again but we have to wait again for another week once this playoffs is done and we're moving to the lower bracket round 3 on wards and for upper bracket semis on wards.
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October 20, 2023, 07:17:29 AM
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Finally, the day of the playoffs has arrived, I'm already tired of waiting for it. Today the Dota 2 celebration will continue, cheers

Yeah, finally the long rest is over. But I liked the long rest since I lost most of my bets and needed some break as well. Cheesy

Very exciting games later as we start with the upper bracket. I'll be betting on Team Spirit and Liquid. Team Spirit is the only team that hasn't lost a map while Liquid only lost a single map during the group stage.

The season favorites Gaimin Gladiators and BetBoom are already in the lower bracket. So I am betting on them as well to survive their first series of games. Hopefully, I'm winning this time.
Of course, Team Spirit are monsters, they destroy everyone in their path. But this may ever end, although it is very unlikely that at TI12. Remember Tundra, and how nonce turned them around, although absolutely no one expected it. I am one of the few skeptics and I think that something similar can happen to them.

I definitely wouldn’t bet on Team Spirit because the odds for their victory are very small. Even if they continue to demolish everyone, we will gain very little. Ultimately, I prefer betting with large odds rather than small odds. Because a lot of things happen TI12 that we don’t expect at all.
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The Martian Child
October 20, 2023, 06:47:25 AM
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Finally, the day of the playoffs has arrived, I'm already tired of waiting for it. Today the Dota 2 celebration will continue, cheers

Yeah, finally the long rest is over. But I liked the long rest since I lost most of my bets and needed some break as well. Cheesy

Very exciting games later as we start with the upper bracket. I'll be betting on Team Spirit and Liquid. Team Spirit is the only team that hasn't lost a map while Liquid only lost a single map during the group stage.

The season favorites Gaimin Gladiators and BetBoom are already in the lower bracket. So I am betting on them as well to survive their first series of games. Hopefully, I'm winning this time.
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October 20, 2023, 05:15:56 AM
Have you been watching the Worlds in League of Legends? The main tournament started today and there were really amazing games.

There isn't group stage anymore you know. Swiss Round system is being used and for now the series are BO1. Today we didn't see much surprise. Actually G2's winning over DK might be considered as the only doubted one. G2 can be a really dangerous opponent for Asian teams in BO1 series. I wonder whether we can see the same effort against WeiboGaming as well tomorrow.

Especially these series are going to be quite exciting to watch and my favourites are like this:

Gen.G v T1
G2 v WeiboGaming
JDG v BLG
DK v KT

Yeah I have followed the Worlds until now and we are in the time period of these games right now.  Grin  Gen.G played really strongly against T1. Chovy is just not making mistakes easily. Despite falling behind Faker in early game he made huge progress in mid-game. His starting behind was due to champ difference also of course as it was Akali vs Orianna.  Smiley

Now the G2 - WBG game is about to start. I see a Draven ban against Hans Sama which is a smart ban.  Grin  Because he is really dominating with Draven most of the time. I can give the DK game as an example for that also.

I'm not sure about G2 to win another BO1. WBG are really playing solid and I think they can win here.
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October 20, 2023, 04:57:35 AM
Man , I've played yesterday 2  games on Dota and I had Ogre on mid in one of them ...guess how that turned up ? Smiley) he ended up getting fat with around 3.8k hp , full 6 items and more than this , it was Crusader 5 rank Smiley) so I think it's just the hero who is broken once you have a good start because I doubt the skills of that guy were over the roof right ? Also , another broken hero that we could make a surprise is Wind Range so careful when you see this hero being picked.  Grin
With the change to midas, Ogre does look pretty broken. The midas usage efficiency is off the charts. Heart seems to be the item of choice. Just get super tanky and just soldier on..nobody can stop you. Wind ranger or the other hand? naah, not broken. It's just okay to be honest. Maybe in crusader it maybe broken as people don't usually buy detection for teamfights and WR aghs, there's no stopping her.


CS 2, IEM Sidney: Ence getting absolutely battered by Faze. Lost map 1 of Nuke handily and map 2, which was Ence's own pick of Anubis, they are losing 0-9. can't believe Ence is ranked 2 in the world. Doesn't look even close to that. Being game to 13 rounds, I don't see a way back for Ence here.
legendary
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October 20, 2023, 04:16:43 AM
A new treasure Crimson Witness 2023, has been released, but will only be available to TI12 visitors. An interesting decision, of course, it won't affect the TI12 prize pool due to the fact that the coverage of people is extremely small. I would like the treasury to be made available to everyone who has a battle pass much earlier.

9Pandas was fined for being late for makeup, and now they have lost 110 seconds of bonus time. I'll laugh if it doesn't affect their pick and they end up winning the game. I think they have drafts and are well prepared, so this won't cause them much damage.

Finally, the day of the playoffs has arrived, I'm already tired of waiting for it. Today the Dota 2 celebration will continue, cheers
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October 19, 2023, 02:48:18 PM
Man , I've played yesterday 2  games on Dota and I had Ogre on mid in one of them ...guess how that turned up ? Smiley) he ended up getting fat with around 3.8k hp , full 6 items and more than this , it was Crusader 5 rank Smiley) so I think it's just the hero who is broken once you have a good start because I doubt the skills of that guy were over the roof right ?
Hero is really broken and we might see a nerf after that and Volvo is likely to remove that dumb luck skill because it's overpowered. I've been using that hero in pubs and ranked up with it by just playing position 5.

Whether it's on the mid, or goes into a support role. It's an ideal hero that you'll just play and enjoy and I think that's what team are seeing it and being tanky is certainly a huge plus on it.

Also , another broken hero that we could make a surprise is Wind Range so careful when you see this hero being picked.  Grin
What's with WR? Any reason why you think that it's a broken and OP hero? Because for the past games, we don't see that much matches that teams picked it.
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October 19, 2023, 02:40:17 PM
Have you been watching the Worlds in League of Legends? The main tournament started today and there were really amazing games.

There isn't group stage anymore you know. Swiss Round system is being used and for now the series are BO1. Today we didn't see much surprise. Actually G2's winning over DK might be considered as the only doubted one. G2 can be a really dangerous opponent for Asian teams in BO1 series. I wonder whether we can see the same effort against WeiboGaming as well tomorrow.

Especially these series are going to be quite exciting to watch and my favourites are like this:

Gen.G v T1
G2 v WeiboGaming
JDG v BLG
DK v KT
legendary
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October 19, 2023, 07:23:29 AM
Man , I've played yesterday 2  games on Dota and I had Ogre on mid in one of them ...guess how that turned up ? Smiley) he ended up getting fat with around 3.8k hp , full 6 items and more than this , it was Crusader 5 rank Smiley) so I think it's just the hero who is broken once you have a good start because I doubt the skills of that guy were over the roof right ? Also , another broken hero that we could make a surprise is Wind Range so careful when you see this hero being picked.  Grin


This week I am observing that at the Crusader rating there is a very large Ogre Magi pick rate and a good win rate of 52.68%. It’s interesting here that with each rank the pick rate gradually drops and the win rate also, and at the highest rank is 8.66% and winrate ... omg 47.57%.
Despite these statistics with a large sample, I wouldn't project this to TI12. I would even dare to say that there is simply nothing predictable there.

As for me, I play Dota 2 several games a day, but among the heroes I play for there are no Ogre Magi, but my friend recently picked him and something similar to what you described happened. Our rating is the same as yours.
legendary
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October 19, 2023, 06:51:31 AM
It's too early to say when they only surprised us with that one upset so far, and Azure Ray is still a solid team with veteran players who've been to TI several times.

Thats probably Nouns Trump card that they used to survive the seeding rounds and get the upper bracket well considering that its almost a week break for all the teams, Im pretty sure by now there has been alot of teams that been analyzing how Nouns won against Tundra so this type of upsets probably wont happen again. Aside from that, all teams will get pretty serious on the playoff especially lower brackets because there isnt 2nd chance for them if they lose

Azure Ray on the other hands is pretty impressive, I kinda thought that they will flop like some of the SA / SEA region teams but surprisingly they did pretty well
legendary
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October 19, 2023, 06:17:27 AM
Man , I've played yesterday 2  games on Dota and I had Ogre on mid in one of them ...guess how that turned up ? Smiley) he ended up getting fat with around 3.8k hp , full 6 items and more than this , it was Crusader 5 rank Smiley) so I think it's just the hero who is broken once you have a good start because I doubt the skills of that guy were over the roof right ? Also , another broken hero that we could make a surprise is Wind Range so careful when you see this hero being picked.  Grin
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October 18, 2023, 02:27:42 PM
It will be incredibly interesting to watch how Tundra will play in the lower bracket, especially if they pick Witch Doctor against them, or now they will ban him in every game? Wink
There will be no room for error.
I feel that it looks like it was nothing before but the actual impact of that Witch Doctor from the match they had with nouns could probably put trauma to them. Maybe they'll use that hero against Entity or much better that they should ban it as Gabbi could use that hero against them.
In any case, I think that we will see Witch Doctor with other teams. During these 5 days of break, teams will study its use in the current patch better. At the moment, he was only picked once in TI12 in that game. Ogre Magi pikced 6 times, and won 4 times. In general, I wanted to see such heroes as Ogre Magi, Witch Doctor, Spectre much more as the grand final approached. Among other heroes, Spectra stands out in terms of win rate with 80%. I'm looking forward to seeing what the teams have prepared during this time.
We might see other teams copying what Gunnar did with Ogre Magi which he made it won on the mid-lane. Actually, it's a good hero, tanky, and can stand every clash without the possibility of being dead quickly unlike other squishy heroes that only need to release their skills before being dead. The multicast stun can have a huge impact on one hero they're focused on firing. An offlane witch doctor could be seen again and IIRC, it was also done by Team Liquid in some tournaments in the past with the tandem of IO. It was actually a good lineup. Well, at this stage of the TI, we will definitely see the secret and best heroes that most teams have been hiding and will only be used at these crucial times. They have to survive every match up that they will do in order for them to proceed to the next stage, all they have to do is to do all that they can, use their best heroes and win their matches with the strategies that they have been packing for this week. And also, counter every best heroes of the opposing team that they have, do less error so there won't be any throwing moments.
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October 18, 2023, 04:17:12 AM
It will be incredibly interesting to watch how Tundra will play in the lower bracket, especially if they pick Witch Doctor against them, or now they will ban him in every game? Wink
There will be no room for error.
I feel that it looks like it was nothing before but the actual impact of that Witch Doctor from the match they had with nouns could probably put trauma to them. Maybe they'll use that hero against Entity or much better that they should ban it as Gabbi could use that hero against them.
In any case, I think that we will see Witch Doctor with other teams. During these 5 days of break, teams will study its use in the current patch better. At the moment, he was only picked once in TI12 in that game. Ogre Magi pikced 6 times, and won 4 times. In general, I wanted to see such heroes as Ogre Magi, Witch Doctor, Spectre much more as the grand final approached. Among other heroes, Spectra stands out in terms of win rate with 80%. I'm looking forward to seeing what the teams have prepared during this time.
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