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legendary
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November 09, 2023, 06:04:36 AM
It will be incredibly interesting to follow ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023, but I probably won’t watch Team Spirit games.

Nah I still think you are going to watch them. A year ago GG dominated every tournament until the last 3 tournaments before TI but everyone still watched them play despite knowing that they were heavy favourite to win and this is going to be same for Team Spirit. Its pretty hard to stay on top when there are lots of teams chasing after to defeat you hence the ESL one could be interesting especially on teams with new roster

Hah, maybe so. But I know for sure that it’s harder to stay at the top than to reach it. Teams who aren't at the top have a huge desire to achieve this, while those who are at the top may be more relaxed. Spirit showed such a game on the technical stage in which no one was able to resist, but they won't be able to do this for a long time like Astralis (CS:GO). I'm talking about the golden squad of Astralis, they held 1st place for 121 weeks in the world rankings and achieved this thanks to the fact that they completely changed the approach to training, tactics and grant allocations. Although after that a lot has changed and we probably won’t see such a long dominance, be it CS or Dota.
legendary
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November 09, 2023, 12:00:25 AM
Organization wise, Tundra is somehow better than GG. Perhaps they want to make GG as a sister organization, or want to rebrand their whole organization as a whole after this purchase. i don't understand these buyouts on the esports scene because they don't mean much compared to sports acquisition wherein teams are merged together for 'better' results in performance..
That's true. Tundra's total winnings are nearly tripled compared to GG, but it still has a chance to not go through if GG can't get the most out of this potential buyout from Tundra.

Still few days to go but lets start the Worlds betting, going straight for winner on this
I'm also going for BLG on the first match and then slightly leaning on JDG for the other series because I don't have the guts to fade the MSI champs.  Cheesy
legendary
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November 08, 2023, 04:44:54 PM
Another shocking move would be Tundra wants to buy the entire GG team ? That is insane but also why would you do that ? because Tundra looks fine just the way it is.

Organization wise, Tundra is somehow better than GG. Perhaps they want to make GG as a sister organization, or want to rebrand their whole organization as a whole after this purchase. i don't understand these buyouts on the esports scene because they don't mean much compared to sports acquisition wherein teams are merged together for 'better' results in performance.

I could also trow EG and SR here but personally I did expect that EG will disband but I didn't expect they will not form a new team for next year ...which means EG will not participate into Dota 2 pro scene for 2024.  Sad

EG is expected. They're showing very poor results for a long time now. SR on the other hand just needs restructuring, especially with Bulba still on the decision-making aspect of the team. It's been a few years overdue and they are still not heeding to the community's suggestion. They deserve the results they are getting from competitions with it.
hero member
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November 08, 2023, 04:18:47 PM
So many changes into Dota 2 pro scene that it's really hard to keep up with the actual changes but also the rumors who tend to be eventually true.

The most shocking one for me as a fan of this team was disband of Talon and moving towards Chinese dota when it seems they will assemble a fresh team and 23savage is still there and I'm happy for him.

Another shocking move would be Tundra wants to buy the entire GG team ? That is insane but also why would you do that ? because Tundra looks fine just the way it is.
All of those are rumor and I haven't seen that rumor about Talon, about the disband and they're moving to China region. Well, we have seen this in some other teams that tried to find their luck in other region like EG and Na'Vi.

I could also trow EG and SR here but personally I did expect that EG will disband but I didn't expect they will not form a new team for next year ...which means EG will not participate into Dota 2 pro scene for 2024.  Sad
EG is likely to leave the Dota 2 scene and that's why they're likely to be leaving for good I guess. SPeaking of SR, they have also released 3 of their players.
legendary
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November 08, 2023, 04:11:15 PM
So many changes into Dota 2 pro scene that it's really hard to keep up with the actual changes but also the rumors who tend to be eventually true.

The most shocking one for me as a fan of this team was disband of Talon and moving towards Chinese dota when it seems they will assemble a fresh team and 23savage is still there and I'm happy for him.

Another shocking move would be Tundra wants to buy the entire GG team ? That is insane but also why would you do that ? because Tundra looks fine just the way it is.

I could also trow EG and SR here but personally I did expect that EG will disband but I didn't expect they will not form a new team for next year ...which means EG will not participate into Dota 2 pro scene for 2024.  Sad
legendary
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November 08, 2023, 03:10:56 PM
It will be incredibly interesting to follow ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023, but I probably won’t watch Team Spirit games.

Nah I still think you are going to watch them. A year ago GG dominated every tournament until the last 3 tournaments before TI but everyone still watched them play despite knowing that they were heavy favourite to win and this is going to be same for Team Spirit. Its pretty hard to stay on top when there are lots of teams chasing after to defeat you hence the ESL one could be interesting especially on teams with new roster



Still few days to go but lets start the Worlds betting, going straight for winner on this

hero member
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November 08, 2023, 01:55:38 PM
I watched that kid grow from his roots on Dota 1 to Dota 2, and I can say that he's not lacking experience by any means - he just lacks discipline and consistency. He does a lot of things right as an offlaner and as a midlaner, but oftentimes his composure, alongside his tendency to do stupid thing out of ego and showmanship costs their team the game. I doubt this team will help him hone that, though this has always been the case for SEA superstars. They get a short exposure due to their potential, but often get sidelined by newer names just because they lack the consistency to stay at the top of their game for a long time.
He better take an offer from EU. Usually, the best region now and most competitive is EU, either WEU or EEU.

Both of the regions are great because the games and players there are talented and even not the pro players.

As for 747, this is a very expensive marketing strategy, although an effective one at that knowing that most of their customers are mainly gamers who try gambling as they think they have the knowledge from the game to enable them to win some money.
Yeah, a strategy that will make them catch more potential users of their platform. This investment of theirs hopefully will last up to the next TI because usually many of these teams end up badly and just disbans.
hero member
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November 08, 2023, 01:20:51 PM
Nine and Stormstomer are already out from their respective teams. Nine chose to leave the team because he's taking a leave and it's understood what he wants for now, to take a break and have some rest after all of the consecutive years of playing Dota 2. That's mentally stressful if you're going to ask me. If they didn't just take Topson on their roster and if Saksa is just healthy, I think this last TI would have been a different result for them. Nine is one of the best and most versatile mid-laners in the entire Dota 2 professionally. We've seen a bunch of unusual heroes that he has played in the mid-lane and managed to win games. If he didn't just transition and gave way for topson and made himself a position 4, it's really going to be a different story at all. While for Stormstormer for Entity, he's an inconsistent mid. Sometimes he's strong and sometimes he's not.

Also, the roster of Talon Esports has been released but I think this squad is likely going to stay and will play with a different organization since they have been released by their organization.

Going with the ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023. There are already the 4 invited teams and they're the grand champs to top 3 from recent The International.

  • Team Spirit
  • Gaimin Gladiators
  • LGD Gaming
  • Azure Ray

There are rumors everywhere that Tundra is in negotiations with Gladiators, but we don’t know much details yet. I think that they will be confirmed and a big surprise awaits us. As for the fact that Stormstomer left the team, it will be good for Entity, I’m absolutely sure of that. I think he was the weak link. As for Topson, I wouldn't be surprised if after some time he goes inactive again, although due to the likely lack of money this may not happen.
It is likely that most of the strong teams and players have decided to take a break for this moment and I think it will last until next year or January of 2024. I am hearing rumors about a buyout contract and maybe that's going to be from Entity but I don't know who's that player, maybe Gabbi or watson going somewhere until the contract is finalized and done, they'll soon announce the roster of that team.

Talking with GG and Tundra, if there have been negotiations on their end then I think that it's about taking Quinn and likely tofu. The slots for Tundra for mid and pos 4 are open and that's why it's likely that they're the two that will be taken if the rumors tend to be true.

It will be incredibly interesting to follow ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023, but I probably won’t watch Team Spirit games. For me, the winner is known in advance, because no one can compete with them and the games turn into a beating for the other team, as was the case at TI12.
Team Spirit has expressed that they're likely to play with stand ins since a few of them mentioned that they're going to go for a break indefinitely.
legendary
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November 08, 2023, 04:45:28 AM
Nine and Stormstomer are already out from their respective teams. Nine chose to leave the team because he's taking a leave and it's understood what he wants for now, to take a break and have some rest after all of the consecutive years of playing Dota 2. That's mentally stressful if you're going to ask me. If they didn't just take Topson on their roster and if Saksa is just healthy, I think this last TI would have been a different result for them. Nine is one of the best and most versatile mid-laners in the entire Dota 2 professionally. We've seen a bunch of unusual heroes that he has played in the mid-lane and managed to win games. If he didn't just transition and gave way for topson and made himself a position 4, it's really going to be a different story at all. While for Stormstormer for Entity, he's an inconsistent mid. Sometimes he's strong and sometimes he's not.

Also, the roster of Talon Esports has been released but I think this squad is likely going to stay and will play with a different organization since they have been released by their organization.

Going with the ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023. There are already the 4 invited teams and they're the grand champs to top 3 from recent The International.

  • Team Spirit
  • Gaimin Gladiators
  • LGD Gaming
  • Azure Ray

There are rumors everywhere that Tundra is in negotiations with Gladiators, but we don’t know much details yet. I think that they will be confirmed and a big surprise awaits us. As for the fact that Stormstomer left the team, it will be good for Entity, I’m absolutely sure of that. I think he was the weak link. As for Topson, I wouldn't be surprised if after some time he goes inactive again, although due to the likely lack of money this may not happen.

It will be incredibly interesting to follow ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023, but I probably won’t watch Team Spirit games. For me, the winner is known in advance, because no one can compete with them and the games turn into a beating for the other team, as was the case at TI12.
hero member
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The Martian Child
November 08, 2023, 12:15:58 AM
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As for 747, this is a very expensive marketing strategy, although an effective one at that knowing that most of their customers are mainly gamers who try gambling as they think they have the knowledge from the game to enable them to win some money.

I remember 747 became very popular a few years ago. But lately, there are a lot of new casinos that are becoming more popular. And I haven't heard 747 anymore so I thought they already closed its operations. So entering the DOTA 2 scene is a good start for 747. Casinos have deep funds, especially on their marketing so there should be no problem for 747 in terms of budget.

In other news, Shopify Rebellion officially bade goodbye to Fly, Abed, and Crit. Seems like good news to these 3 players as they finally get rid of the unlucky Arteezy and Bulba. I'm really surprised by the team's decision, they seem to have chosen the worst while dropping the better ones. Cheesy
legendary
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November 07, 2023, 05:50:57 PM
Nouns has released their roster for Dota 2.

--> https://twitter.com/nounsesports/status/1721266726166233374

I think 747 is also a casino and they have made an announcement for their team roster composing of the following players:

  • Karl
  • Boomy
  • IYD
  • db
  • Jaunuel

Source --> https://www.facebook.com/747gg/posts/122117978078045957

747 is a sports betting site within the Southeast Asian region. I regularly use this site to bet on the NBA and other local games, though I don't know that they have an interest in creating their own esports team, and some veteran players at that. It's good that they are expanding and making a name for themselves. Perhaps they might consider it as an investment in marketing rather than an actual move to dive head first into esports.

Also, seeing Karl in this team somewhat feels weird. He's got the raw talent, just not the consistency. I don't think such a team could hone that for him, especially a new one.
I guess that this is a marketing on a different level just as what most of the casinos do to sponsor teams. Instead of just being an sponsor, they are trying to make name for themselves.

Karl needs more experience, I know that he's talented but sometimes he stumbles and he needs consistency just as you have said.

I watched that kid grow from his roots on Dota 1 to Dota 2, and I can say that he's not lacking experience by any means - he just lacks discipline and consistency. He does a lot of things right as an offlaner and as a midlaner, but oftentimes his composure, alongside his tendency to do stupid thing out of ego and showmanship costs their team the game. I doubt this team will help him hone that, though this has always been the case for SEA superstars. They get a short exposure due to their potential, but often get sidelined by newer names just because they lack the consistency to stay at the top of their game for a long time.

As for 747, this is a very expensive marketing strategy, although an effective one at that knowing that most of their customers are mainly gamers who try gambling as they think they have the knowledge from the game to enable them to win some money.
hero member
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November 07, 2023, 04:32:42 PM
Nouns has released their roster for Dota 2.

--> https://twitter.com/nounsesports/status/1721266726166233374

I think 747 is also a casino and they have made an announcement for their team roster composing of the following players:

  • Karl
  • Boomy
  • IYD
  • db
  • Jaunuel

Source --> https://www.facebook.com/747gg/posts/122117978078045957

747 is a sports betting site within the Southeast Asian region. I regularly use this site to bet on the NBA and other local games, though I don't know that they have an interest in creating their own esports team, and some veteran players at that. It's good that they are expanding and making a name for themselves. Perhaps they might consider it as an investment in marketing rather than an actual move to dive head first into esports.

Also, seeing Karl in this team somewhat feels weird. He's got the raw talent, just not the consistency. I don't think such a team could hone that for him, especially a new one.
I guess that this is a marketing on a different level just as what most of the casinos do to sponsor teams. Instead of just being an sponsor, they are trying to make name for themselves.

Karl needs more experience, I know that he's talented but sometimes he stumbles and he needs consistency just as you have said.

Well, we need to adopt the changes if that's what it is. But for Team Spirit, it seems that they're all in agreement and no changes is going to be seen.

I am looking for some clues about the roster shuffles but it seems that we don't have that much source this time. So I guess we just have to wait with lock ins for their rosters.
Depending on their performance on next year's tournamen and DPC Season, we will probably see some changes there but for now Team Spirit is in high spirits after taking the Aegis of Champions so it's still some time before they have to do some serious planning, hopefully they don't repeat their mistake last year or what happened to Tundra this year which is getting eliminated in the early stages of the tournament. I'm not that updated to shuffles but I can see sometimes players that are leaving the organization, I'm excited for shuffle for Chinese teams, they need to reorganize or have to broaden their horizons and join up with other teams, they always fumble when the matches are crucial.
It's too early to assume things and I think it is going to be another wild ride for them for these upcoming tournaments.
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November 07, 2023, 03:28:09 PM
Nine and Stormstomer are already out from their respective teams. Nine chose to leave the team because he's taking a leave and it's understood what he wants for now, to take a break and have some rest after all of the consecutive years of playing Dota 2. That's mentally stressful if you're going to ask me. If they didn't just take Topson on their roster and if Saksa is just healthy, I think this last TI would have been a different result for them. Nine is one of the best and most versatile mid-laners in the entire Dota 2 professionally. We've seen a bunch of unusual heroes that he has played in the mid-lane and managed to win games. If he didn't just transition and gave way for topson and made himself a position 4, it's really going to be a different story at all. While for Stormstormer for Entity, he's an inconsistent mid. Sometimes he's strong and sometimes he's not.

Also, the roster of Talon Esports has been released but I think this squad is likely going to stay and will play with a different organization since they have been released by their organization.

Going with the ESL One Kuala Lumpur 2023. There are already the 4 invited teams and they're the grand champs to top 3 from recent The International.

  • Team Spirit
  • Gaimin Gladiators
  • LGD Gaming
  • Azure Ray
sr. member
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November 07, 2023, 03:19:46 PM
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Well, we need to adopt the changes if that's what it is. But for Team Spirit, it seems that they're all in agreement and no changes is going to be seen.

I am looking for some clues about the roster shuffles but it seems that we don't have that much source this time. So I guess we just have to wait with lock ins for their rosters.
Depending on their performance on next year's tournamen and DPC Season, we will probably see some changes there but for now Team Spirit is in high spirits after taking the Aegis of Champions so it's still some time before they have to do some serious planning, hopefully they don't repeat their mistake last year or what happened to Tundra this year which is getting eliminated in the early stages of the tournament. I'm not that updated to shuffles but I can see sometimes players that are leaving the organization, I'm excited for shuffle for Chinese teams, they need to reorganize or have to broaden their horizons and join up with other teams, they always fumble when the matches are crucial.
legendary
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November 07, 2023, 03:00:45 PM
Nouns has released their roster for Dota 2.

--> https://twitter.com/nounsesports/status/1721266726166233374

I think 747 is also a casino and they have made an announcement for their team roster composing of the following players:

  • Karl
  • Boomy
  • IYD
  • db
  • Jaunuel

Source --> https://www.facebook.com/747gg/posts/122117978078045957

747 is a sports betting site within the Southeast Asian region. I regularly use this site to bet on the NBA and other local games, though I don't know that they have an interest in creating their own esports team, and some veteran players at that. It's good that they are expanding and making a name for themselves. Perhaps they might consider it as an investment in marketing rather than an actual move to dive head first into esports.

Also, seeing Karl in this team somewhat feels weird. He's got the raw talent, just not the consistency. I don't think such a team could hone that for him, especially a new one.
sr. member
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November 07, 2023, 02:08:22 PM
Finally time for Faker to play



Well the odds were good but my only regret would be not taking -2.5 on T1. iirc it were over 4x for -2.5 maps though so I thought that its not possible because LNG might atleast get a single map from T1. Shit now I gotta wait for 1 more week to get another profit from T1 I guess  Roll Eyes but the next one gotta be pretty close because JD is a huge favourite to win Worlds 2023

Congratulations on your win my friend.  Smiley  It was a really good choice. Because T1 were way ahead of their opponent in strength already and I didn't expect T1 to lose even once.

However just as you said it is going to be a quite difficult matchup between T1 and JDG. But I would still bet my money on T1 for this matchup to tell the truth. Because T1 are playing quite different when it comes to Worlds. By saying different I mean stronger. T1 play Worlds much more seriously than they do in MSI. JDG are one of the toughest opponents but I think T1 would still beat them by 3-2 at worst.
legendary
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November 07, 2023, 12:41:10 PM
There is not much time left before the ENCE - TYLOO match, as part of the CIS ASIA Championship 2023 with a prize pool of $500k. I have always been interested in Chinese teams in CS, I remember from ancient times when TYLOO played CS 1.6. No one could even compete with them in the Chinese pro scene.

TYLOO is the underdog in this match, but I will definitely watch it, despite the fact that the difference in their world rankings is quite big. Snappi is the weak link of the ENCE team, he is 33 year old and his KD leaves much to be desired. With a odds above 3, I will bet, but just a little.
hero member
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November 05, 2023, 04:54:04 PM
Nouns has released their roster for Dota 2.

--> https://twitter.com/nounsesports/status/1721266726166233374

I think 747 is also a casino and they have made an announcement for their team roster composing of the following players:

  • Karl
  • Boomy
  • IYD
  • db
  • Jaunuel

Source --> https://www.facebook.com/747gg/posts/122117978078045957
legendary
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November 05, 2023, 07:22:55 AM
Finally time for Faker to play



Well the odds were good but my only regret would be not taking -2.5 on T1. iirc it were over 4x for -2.5 maps though so I thought that its not possible because LNG might atleast get a single map from T1. Shit now I gotta wait for 1 more week to get another profit from T1 I guess  Roll Eyes but the next one gotta be pretty close because JD is a huge favourite to win Worlds 2023
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November 04, 2023, 04:24:58 PM
More money and higher prize pools based on the rumors with that likes from the mena region. So we basically gonna see another strong region if orgs invest on that region.
I feel the same, I hope he wins against the Chinese delegation. A year ago he lost, slightly unexpectedly in the final, respect how we remember his first victory at the Worlds, 10 years ago and still TOP!
I'm kind of confuse mate on what you're talking about.

This is basically the Saudi/Mena region in Dota 2 but I don't know if I do really understand if there's something to do with what you say. But since you've mentioned worlds, I guess you are talking about the LOL.
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