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legendary
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November 04, 2023, 10:23:15 AM
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I agree it sucks, plus the gap between the quarterfinals, semifinals, and finals is a week apart, which is unnecessarily long compared to TI, where they squeezed the main event within an entire weekend.

I didnt even realized this before I read your post, it totally sucks that they gotta drag it for a full month. Even having two short breaks on TI was sucks already and yet LOL gotta drag it even longer. Anyway, I think having long breaks like this totally makes the game unpredictable as I guess all the teams would be using all those breaks to come up with a new strat huh.

BLG winning against GEN G was probably one of the example for that

Ouch it seems LOL is kinda unpredictable huh, BLG just owned GEN G for the first 2 maps. They just seems better than GEN G for now
Yup, BLG showed up in a big way, and Gen G didn't adapt from their mistakes by allowing BLG to pick the same jungle champ throughout the series.  Tongue

Finally time for Faker to play



Im not really a fan but I would love to watch this guy won another Worlds. He is basically a living legend of this game, I guess most of the younger players are probably inspired because of him
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November 04, 2023, 06:14:05 AM
Let's just wait about the new DPC season while Valve is just setting the timing of it. Whilst for the ESL Kuala Lumpur, we will see teams that are already composed with their roster.

For now, most of them aren't seen yet and I am just waiting for them for most of the regions there. This is interesting as we're going to see the debut of those teams that have a new set of roster.
If Tundra and Team Spirit aren't changing their current roster till 2024, your excitement and my excitement won't last that long because there's a possibility that they're going to be TI favorites again. Still excited on the new roster changes on these teams though, I love to see new teams dominating and more players having a synergy with other players from their new teams because I feel like that's what's stopping these teams from playing in a way that's much more competitive than they can ever be, the synergy of the players on that team.
Well, we need to adopt the changes if that's what it is. But for Team Spirit, it seems that they're all in agreement and no changes is going to be seen.

I am looking for some clues about the roster shuffles but it seems that we don't have that much source this time. So I guess we just have to wait with lock ins for their rosters.

It's also interesting to know that ESL is providing a qualifier in the MENA region which seems to be the first time. But knowing how rich the region is, some teams can afford to sign good players from different parts of the world just like what Saudi is doing in soccer. I also read the news earlier that a Saudi team wants to create a super team.
Saudi or that region is known in wanting to dominate even in the esports scene. There's gonna be likely an Olympics for esports soon as they want to organize one.

Yeah, a TI without OG, Nigma, and Team Secret probably has fewer fans than the previous TIs. But thanks to Team Spirit a former champion which is already familiar to most TI fans. GG, Liquid, and LGD also made that event competitive and exciting.

Fully recognizing the MENA region pretty sure will boost DOTA 2. Maybe more events hosted and sponsored by the countries in that region.

Ame is expected to return to the DOTA 2 scene this season. It's crazy though when he said that Valve should merge NA and SA since they only deserved a single slot.
More money and higher prize pools based on the rumors with that likes from the mena region. So we basically gonna see another strong region if orgs invest on that region.
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The Martian Child
November 04, 2023, 06:12:50 AM
Meanwhile, ESL Kuala Lumpur will start its qualifiers in more than a week. Maybe most of the teams before that are settled already with their line-ups. But the biggest question to me is how will DOTA 2 fare next season when the DPC points system is taken out.
Let's just wait about the new DPC season while Valve is just setting the timing of it. Whilst for the ESL Kuala Lumpur, we will see teams that are already composed with their roster.

For now, most of them aren't seen yet and I am just waiting for them for most of the regions there. This is interesting as we're going to see the debut of those teams that have a new set of roster.

It's also interesting to know that ESL is providing a qualifier in the MENA region which seems to be the first time. But knowing how rich the region is, some teams can afford to sign good players from different parts of the world just like what Saudi is doing in soccer. I also read the news earlier that a Saudi team wants to create a super team.

I hate to say that the game might continue dropping down in numbers but maybe there are new ideas and innovations next season that will provide a much-needed boost.
I am optimistic about the next season. Although this past one is disappointing but thanks to Team Spirit for saving the hype and making more players and fans still interested in the game.

Yeah, a TI without OG, Nigma, and Team Secret probably has fewer fans than the previous TIs. But thanks to Team Spirit a former champion which is already familiar to most TI fans. GG, Liquid, and LGD also made that event competitive and exciting.

Fully recognizing the MENA region pretty sure will boost DOTA 2. Maybe more events hosted and sponsored by the countries in that region.

Ame is expected to return to the DOTA 2 scene this season. It's crazy though when he said that Valve should merge NA and SA since they only deserved a single slot.
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November 04, 2023, 04:42:03 AM
And there are already the talks that "33" would replace zai in liquid.
https://afkgaming.com/dota2/news/rumor-33-to-replace-zai-at-team-liquid

We do see tons of changes specially on roster changes and with those breaks and retirement after TI which is something that becomes standard and this is why its not
already that shocking if we do see changes because teams will really be finding up their ways on making  that powerhouse team and to those who had been in long
time on dota 2 career would really be likely having that kind of break or would really be totally retiring.

They have already prove out enough about their greatness and it is really just that sad that they're leaving the pro world but still the memories that they have
gave would really be that remains for us dota fans.
33 is a good offlaner but will he be allowed to buyout with his contract by Team Liquid? I'm sure that he's got a huge and expensive contract bind with the Tundra Esports.

This is where actually the real money comes from esports organizations when another team wants to buyout a contract from them just to get their player.

It's all about business and this is lucrative for such that are into this type of deal and that's probably not a problem since Tundra has already achieved a lot with him if ever, he'll be taken.
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November 04, 2023, 03:43:01 AM
Let's just wait about the new DPC season while Valve is just setting the timing of it. Whilst for the ESL Kuala Lumpur, we will see teams that are already composed with their roster.

For now, most of them aren't seen yet and I am just waiting for them for most of the regions there. This is interesting as we're going to see the debut of those teams that have a new set of roster.
If Tundra and Team Spirit aren't changing their current roster till 2024, your excitement and my excitement won't last that long because there's a possibility that they're going to be TI favorites again. Still excited on the new roster changes on these teams though, I love to see new teams dominating and more players having a synergy with other players from their new teams because I feel like that's what's stopping these teams from playing in a way that's much more competitive than they can ever be, the synergy of the players on that team.
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November 04, 2023, 03:21:11 AM
The last four matches of the Thunderpick World Championship 2023 are being played today and tomorrow. Heroic and Virtus.pro are playing first for who goes into the semi finals, where they are going to meet Monte. Virtus.pro is the clear favourite here, even though Heroic had a good tournament so far I don't see any chance of them winning. My money is on Virtus.pro reaching the semis and they will likely win against Monte too. The two teams already meet during another tournament 3 days ago where Virtus.pro won 2-1 against Monte. I think they are going to do the same today after beating Heroic. Monte had much easier teams to play against each other so far except losing 2-0 against FaZe. The second semi finals match today is going to be Cloud9 vs FaZe, where FaZe is the clear favourite. They already won the last big tournament IEM Sydney 2023 last month and will likely reach the finals again. The grand final is tomorrow, I would expect FaZe to play against Virtus.pro, where FaZe is going to win. And even if Monte manages to reach the finals, FaZe is the clear favourite this weekend.
legendary
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November 03, 2023, 08:54:57 PM
I mean I would understand if its still TI so they might want to stretch it longer to get the best peak views that they could get but TI is over so there is actually no reason to drag this anytime longer. They could have made atleast 2 games per day for the quarterfinals but they didnt which is kinda sucks because I gotta wait for 1 more days to see Faker play  Tongue
I agree it sucks, plus the gap between the quarterfinals, semifinals, and finals is a week apart, which is unnecessarily long compared to TI, where they squeezed the main event within an entire weekend.

Ouch it seems LOL is kinda unpredictable huh, BLG just owned GEN G for the first 2 maps. They just seems better than GEN G for now
Yup, BLG showed up in a big way, and Gen G didn't adapt from their mistakes by allowing BLG to pick the same jungle champ throughout the series.  Tongue
sr. member
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November 03, 2023, 01:56:14 PM
Miposhka said that he would take a break, but what kind of break it would be is not clear,

Considering that he is already a 2 times TI champion, Team Spirit won TI 2021 which has the highest prizepool so far and not to mention the Riyadh Master which also has the highest non official tournament prizepool, he totally deserves that break

Topson and Ana will probably no longer be able to show high results, no matter how much we would like. I think the players need breaks, but there is a subtle point here, they should be short, like Topson. In my opinion, somewhere around 1-3 months, if it is longer, then the player may lose the excitement and drive from the game that he had before. If we step back a little from the topic and touch on life stories, the Ana has a terrible moment that I didn't like. He violated his contract with his personal manager and banned him from social networks, you can find them on the Internet.

With all this I want to say that I wish Zai not to rest for a long time, otherwise those who were training at this time will be able to get ahead of him during this time.
And there are already the talks that "33" would replace zai in liquid.
https://afkgaming.com/dota2/news/rumor-33-to-replace-zai-at-team-liquid

We do see tons of changes specially on roster changes and with those breaks and retirement after TI which is something that becomes standard and this is why its not
already that shocking if we do see changes because teams will really be finding up their ways on making  that powerhouse team and to those who had been in long
time on dota 2 career would really be likely having that kind of break or would really be totally retiring.

They have already prove out enough about their greatness and it is really just that sad that they're leaving the pro world but still the memories that they have
gave would really be that remains for us dota fans.
hero member
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November 03, 2023, 09:30:08 AM
Meanwhile, ESL Kuala Lumpur will start its qualifiers in more than a week. Maybe most of the teams before that are settled already with their line-ups. But the biggest question to me is how will DOTA 2 fare next season when the DPC points system is taken out.
Let's just wait about the new DPC season while Valve is just setting the timing of it. Whilst for the ESL Kuala Lumpur, we will see teams that are already composed with their roster.

For now, most of them aren't seen yet and I am just waiting for them for most of the regions there. This is interesting as we're going to see the debut of those teams that have a new set of roster.

I hate to say that the game might continue dropping down in numbers but maybe there are new ideas and innovations next season that will provide a much-needed boost.
I am optimistic about the next season. Although this past one is disappointing but thanks to Team Spirit for saving the hype and making more players and fans still interested in the game.
legendary
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November 03, 2023, 09:25:50 AM
Miposhka said that he would take a break, but what kind of break it would be is not clear,

Considering that he is already a 2 times TI champion, Team Spirit won TI 2021 which has the highest prizepool so far and not to mention the Riyadh Master which also has the highest non official tournament prizepool, he totally deserves that break

Topson and Ana will probably no longer be able to show high results, no matter how much we would like. I think the players need breaks, but there is a subtle point here, they should be short, like Topson. In my opinion, somewhere around 1-3 months, if it is longer, then the player may lose the excitement and drive from the game that he had before. If we step back a little from the topic and touch on life stories, the Ana has a terrible moment that I didn't like. He violated his contract with his personal manager and banned him from social networks, you can find them on the Internet.

With all this I want to say that I wish Zai not to rest for a long time, otherwise those who were training at this time will be able to get ahead of him during this time.
legendary
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November 03, 2023, 04:38:25 AM
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That's how they usually schedule their matches to squeeze the best viewership possible and one of these teams will get swept or lose one-sidedly anyway.  Lips sealed

I mean I would understand if its still TI so they might want to stretch it longer to get the best peak views that they could get but TI is over so there is actually no reason to drag this anytime longer. They could have made atleast 2 games per day for the quarterfinals but they didnt which is kinda sucks because I gotta wait for 1 more days to see Faker play  Tongue

Later, I have Gen G beating BLG by 3-1 or 3-0 since BLG didn't look that solid against T1 and their concerning form might continue heading into this series. BLG can still show up to make this series more competitive than expected, but I still think Gen G will close it within four maps.



Ouch it seems LOL is kinda unpredictable huh, BLG just owned GEN G for the first 2 maps. They just seems better than GEN G for now
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The Martian Child
November 03, 2023, 01:49:47 AM
Shopify Rebellion- After another very poor season I won't be surprised if the players will finally disband.

I have said this for YEARS: as long as Bulba is in command of this team, they will NOT get any success that they deserve. Mechanically gifted players held back by a coach that has the knowledge of the 2016 Dota scene and hasn't evolved since then.

Lol! I have the same opinion on Bulba. I still don't get it he remained with them for many years already. I even began to wonder if he has deep connections with EG's management or ownership. I was glad that Shopify Rebellion was formed but only to be surprised that Bulba is still with them. Cheesy


Meanwhile, ESL Kuala Lumpur will start its qualifiers in more than a week. Maybe most of the teams before that are settled already with their line-ups. But the biggest question to me is how will DOTA 2 fare next season when the DPC points system is taken out. I hate to say that the game might continue dropping down in numbers but maybe there are new ideas and innovations next season that will provide a much-needed boost.
legendary
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November 02, 2023, 07:48:27 PM
Its going to be a while until we have another high tier dota2 tournaments and I totally would love to switch to LOL for a while because Worlds is currently ongoing. The only downside with this is that, Im not sure why the hell they only play 1 match per day which is sucks. Imagine having to wait the next day for another match after the current match finished
That's how they usually schedule their matches to squeeze the best viewership possible and one of these teams will get swept or lose one-sidedly anyway.  Lips sealed


Later, I have Gen G beating BLG by 3-1 or 3-0 since BLG didn't look that solid against T1 and their concerning form might continue heading into this series. BLG can still show up to make this series more competitive than expected, but I still think Gen G will close it within four maps.

legendary
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November 02, 2023, 06:59:55 PM
Miposhka said that he would take a break, but what kind of break it would be is not clear,

Considering that he is already a 2 times TI champion, Team Spirit won TI 2021 which has the highest prizepool so far and not to mention the Riyadh Master which also has the highest non official tournament prizepool, he totally deserves that break

He could basically chill like Topson and Ana did and just come back whenever he's feeling the itch of playing again in competitive Dota. He deserves that break, though hopefully he continues with his Dota career as he already has one hell of a team that knows how to play the game and knows how to complement each other perfectly. One of the best supports in the scene currently!
legendary
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November 02, 2023, 05:12:21 PM
Miposhka said that he would take a break, but what kind of break it would be is not clear,

Considering that he is already a 2 times TI champion, Team Spirit won TI 2021 which has the highest prizepool so far and not to mention the Riyadh Master which also has the highest non official tournament prizepool, he totally deserves that break



Its going to be a while until we have another high tier dota2 tournaments and I totally would love to switch to LOL for a while because Worlds is currently ongoing. The only downside with this is that, Im not sure why the hell they only play 1 match per day which is sucks. Imagine having to wait the next day for another match after the current match finished
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November 02, 2023, 04:47:35 PM
This is a lot. I think the first one that I've seen about Tundra and GG is that Quinn is also going there since nine has transitioned into the support role and probably liking it, their midlane is free since topson just played there as a stand in. There's just too much with all of these speculations and rumors but we will break them down soon when we've got more reliable sources or when official transfers have happened already.

Quinn and dyrachyo are the ones expected to transfer to Tundra. Meanwhile, Insania hinted that their new offlaner is a big streamer with a lot of viewers in the CIS which also means that Gabbi is not the guy.
I think that I have seen another rumor that GG will keep their roster and no transfers will be made. Oh well, the guessing game continues with all of these rumors and whoever gets to make these speculations are probably wanting to confuse us. I've heard what insania said and that's obviously not going to be Gabbi because AFAIK, he's got with contract to Entity until June or July maybe. And that hint could be qojqva since he's a streamer and has got a lot of viewers in the CIS region. Well, he's not new to the team and he's been with them before in Team Liquid and Alliance as well I think.

It'll be interesting once official announcements are being made. So far, Evil Geniuses has officially disbanded and there are hints that it is not coming back to the DOTA scene at least for the next season. There's also Eva Elfie's $25k as a promise to help boost the TI prize pool but was not accepted by Team Spirit.
EG fell too badly with that roster and experiment to go through with an SA team and didn't end very well. As for Eva, Team Spirit has declined that money because they've got that much and she worked hard for it but appreciated what she wants to do.

Zai has won over $4.2 million in his career. This is a very high result, but of course he would like to win the TI and write his name in history forever. I even specifically went to check how many times he and his team were in the top-5 of different TI's. He took 3rd place with the team 3 times and 4th place 1 time. In my opinion, it’s better to take 1 time, but it will be 1st place and not take part in them anymore, burning your nerves completely)
Yeah, it's still different having the title of being a TI winner but that's it. His overall career profits is a lot and I think that if we're going to put a top 20, he's on it. But hopefully he won't retire and this is just a temporary break.

Miposhka said that he would take a break, but what kind of break it would be is not clear, he probably didn't mean leaving or taking a break from his career. You will probably find these phrases in your news feeds.
Maybe a temporary break as well since this year has been so much to them achieving champion titles after titles. They need a great vacation and that's what probably he meant to say.
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November 02, 2023, 03:27:13 PM
For sure that there will be a lot of it, many pro players that participated this ti has already expressed their potential to retire. And we already have one shuffle and that's from PSG Quest, they have already removed Tobi in the roster. What a mistake from this team, if they have just kept ATF on their roster and has given him a good contract that both of them agrees upon, they probably had a good run on this TI.
It's a little sad when players leave, I hope zai doesn't leave the game forever. He said he needed rest now. Miposhka said the same thing. On the other hand, the players who came are writing a new history of Dota. Reshuffles also bring freshness to teams. Many of the results will surprise us.
It's just that I want zai and other players to win their own TI titles but it is going to take time for most of them to have it. I haven't heard miposhka said the same thing but it's okay on his end since he has achieved a lot and with all the prize money that he's won, he can actually retire forever now. Whilst for zai, he also has got prize money too but it's not enough when you think that you're not yet accomplished and still aiming for a bigger dream. But if he thinks that he needs to take a rest, he can do that.
Zai has won over $4.2 million in his career. This is a very high result, but of course he would like to win the TI and write his name in history forever. I even specifically went to check how many times he and his team were in the top-5 of different TI's. He took 3rd place with the team 3 times and 4th place 1 time. In my opinion, it’s better to take 1 time, but it will be 1st place and not take part in them anymore, burning your nerves completely)

Miposhka said that he would take a break, but what kind of break it would be is not clear, he probably didn't mean leaving or taking a break from his career. You will probably find these phrases in your news feeds.


Basing up on the words that "he wont go anywhere" then it would be half meant and since there's no clarification that its totally a retirement thing or simply that literal break on playing.

This is what do really marks out with these words basing up on the link given.
In the post-match interview at TI12, Mira patted the captain on the shoulder and said: "I hope Miposhka will endure the third race."
https://escorenews.com/en/dota-2/news/52418-miposhka-after-winning-ti12-i-m-not-going-anywhere-but-i-ll-definitely-take-a-break

Hope that they would really be that still intact on next year TI and trying out to break that 3x TI champion on which it do make even more that notable history in the world of Dota.
legendary
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November 02, 2023, 03:09:20 PM
For sure that there will be a lot of it, many pro players that participated this ti has already expressed their potential to retire. And we already have one shuffle and that's from PSG Quest, they have already removed Tobi in the roster. What a mistake from this team, if they have just kept ATF on their roster and has given him a good contract that both of them agrees upon, they probably had a good run on this TI.
It's a little sad when players leave, I hope zai doesn't leave the game forever. He said he needed rest now. Miposhka said the same thing. On the other hand, the players who came are writing a new history of Dota. Reshuffles also bring freshness to teams. Many of the results will surprise us.
It's just that I want zai and other players to win their own TI titles but it is going to take time for most of them to have it. I haven't heard miposhka said the same thing but it's okay on his end since he has achieved a lot and with all the prize money that he's won, he can actually retire forever now. Whilst for zai, he also has got prize money too but it's not enough when you think that you're not yet accomplished and still aiming for a bigger dream. But if he thinks that he needs to take a rest, he can do that.
Zai has won over $4.2 million in his career. This is a very high result, but of course he would like to win the TI and write his name in history forever. I even specifically went to check how many times he and his team were in the top-5 of different TI's. He took 3rd place with the team 3 times and 4th place 1 time. In my opinion, it’s better to take 1 time, but it will be 1st place and not take part in them anymore, burning your nerves completely)

Miposhka said that he would take a break, but what kind of break it would be is not clear, he probably didn't mean leaving or taking a break from his career. You will probably find these phrases in your news feeds.

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The Martian Child
November 02, 2023, 03:58:58 AM
Meanwhile, the biggest DOTA 2 news now are the numerous rumors of roster shuffling of many teams.

Gaimin Gladiators- I really like the current GG roster but Quinn leaving may end up with a lot of changes.
Tundra- Caster, Maelstorm made a hint that 3 players from GG will be joining the team.
Liquid- One of the biggest news is Zai's decision to take a break which might also mean that there is a chance of not retiring and will come back later.
9 Pandas- Russian caster Maelstrom also hinted the team will disband.
Shopify Rebellion- After another very poor season I won't be surprised if the players will finally disband.
Team Secret- I wonder what's on Puppey's mind now. Maybe try to check the players available in the market. But will he let go on Crystallis?
Talon Esports- They will enter next season with some changes in their roster as well.
Beastcost- All players left the team. There are also rumors about transferring to SEA.
This is a lot. I think the first one that I've seen about Tundra and GG is that Quinn is also going there since nine has transitioned into the support role and probably liking it, their midlane is free since topson just played there as a stand in. There's just too much with all of these speculations and rumors but we will break them down soon when we've got more reliable sources or when official transfers have happened already.

Quinn and dyrachyo are the ones expected to transfer to Tundra. Meanwhile, Insania hinted that their new offlaner is a big streamer with a lot of viewers in the CIS which also means that Gabbi is not the guy.

It'll be interesting once official announcements are being made. So far, Evil Geniuses has officially disbanded and there are hints that it is not coming back to the DOTA scene at least for the next season. There's also Eva Elfie's $25k as a promise to help boost the TI prize pool but was not accepted by Team Spirit.
legendary
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November 01, 2023, 05:11:19 PM
Dota 2 pro scene will surely go under some changes but the rumors that I've read here actually makes me sad but also happy.

I would be sad to see RTZ actually giving up on dota and retire but I would be happy for him to find a new team and actually give us his last dance.

I know about 9pandas that they won't disband but solo322 will most likely be their coach and not a player anymore.

Talon might actually become one of the strongest dota 2 teams in 2024 and I'm not even kidding on this one.

Team Secret will most likely reinvent themselves and I won't be surprised if Puppey will look for some new players in team or even trying out as a coach.  Cool
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