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Without any doubts , yesterday was one of the best days of Dota2 this year and the fact that Talon lost in that way really made me sad because that team deserves to win a Major man...they really do. For Liquid , what can you say? the luck was with them on that throne vs throne match up.

Talon deserves the loss yesterday because they let their defense off guard even though the throne is not yet finished while there’s still enemy team alive. 23Savage is already jumping away from his PC on the behind the scene photo after they kill the 2 core hero of Liquid. This explains a lot why they didn’t notice that Zai is destroying their ancient while Liquid throne is on glyphs of fortification.

Talon is a good team but a mistake like this cost them a lot for securing much higher reward. Now they will need to compete on GG or 9Panda which is a very tough enemy to deal with.

Do you mean this image?



I didn't watch the live game but watching the replay makes me get why they are excited. They finally close the game by killing the enemy hitters while they have complete heroes with expose throne. That moment is indeed a GG call game if zai didn't think that sneaky ancient segway. Emotion is very high on competitive scene like this.
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Without any doubts , yesterday was one of the best days of Dota2 this year and the fact that Talon lost in that way really made me sad because that team deserves to win a Major man...they really do. For Liquid , what can you say? the luck was with them on that throne vs throne match up.

Talon deserves the loss yesterday because they let their defense off guard even though the throne is not yet finished while there’s still enemy team alive. 23Savage is already jumping away from his PC on the behind the scene photo after they kill the 2 core hero of Liquid. This explains a lot why they didn’t notice that Zai is destroying their ancient while Liquid throne is on glyphs of fortification.
I don't know about Talon deserving to win a major but I think they were the better team in terms of play. Even Zai admitted they were beat but Talon got careless there so it is what it is. Then you have the foolish early celebration which made their loss even worse. It's going to be hard recovering from that.
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Without any doubts , yesterday was one of the best days of Dota2 this year and the fact that Talon lost in that way really made me sad because that team deserves to win a Major man...they really do. For Liquid , what can you say? the luck was with them on that throne vs throne match up.

Talon deserves the loss yesterday because they let their defense off guard even though the throne is not yet finished while there’s still enemy team alive. 23Savage is already jumping away from his PC on the behind the scene photo after they kill the 2 core hero of Liquid. This explains a lot why they didn’t notice that Zai is destroying their ancient while Liquid throne is on glyphs of fortification.

Talon is a good team but a mistake like this cost them a lot for securing much higher reward. Now they will need to compete on GG or 9Panda which is a very tough enemy to deal with.
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Without any doubts , yesterday was one of the best days of Dota2 this year and the fact that Talon lost in that way really made me sad because that team deserves to win a Major man...they really do. For Liquid , what can you say? the luck was with them on that throne vs throne match up.

Then , we had the mega crazy comeback of Team Spirit who can never be counter out from a game as their most impressive skill as a team is to play mega good in defense and we all saw yesterday what Yatoro can do if his team will delay the game just enough for him to build those items that will win them the game as I'm sure only a few of us believed that Team Spirit can make a comeback in both game 1 and 3 against BetBoom.

Great matches yesterday. Somehow I am glad Liquid was able to steal that deciding map. I still believe they are pretty much better and more clutched. So far they already made huge hard wins in the upper bracket. I believe they are now the favorites to win this tournament.

I am still a fan of Team Spirit but I never thought that BetBoom fell into a comeback. I am so hyped on BetBoom and won all my bets on them so far and now they are facing earlier than expected against GG (provided it wins over Quest which is expected).

Nonetheless, all these remaining matches are pretty great and exciting. I am still rooting for GG and BB in the lower bracket.
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Without any doubts , yesterday was one of the best days of Dota2 this year and the fact that Talon lost in that way really made me sad because that team deserves to win a Major man...they really do. For Liquid , what can you say? the luck was with them on that throne vs throne match up.

Then , we had the mega crazy comeback of Team Spirit who can never be counter out from a game as their most impressive skill as a team is to play mega good in defense and we all saw yesterday what Yatoro can do if his team will delay the game just enough for him to build those items that will win them the game as I'm sure only a few of us believed that Team Spirit can make a comeback in both game 1 and 3 against BetBoom.
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I'm betting safe now, yesterday, I was lucky to win on most games with the majority over 2.5 total games per match.
Betting over 2.5 total games per match seems lucky right now as the prize pool of this tournament is huge and teams are extremely serious and playing carefully, with unexpected wins and losses everywhere.


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They knew already brood capability on quick destroying their barracks since Zai is the one who clean their base with split pushes. They become over confident with their win on the clash and even Liquid didn’t knows exactly that Zai can make it.
On top of that, Talon used their fortification for the team fight leaving the base exposed and it all came down to the TP cancels that came in clutch from the supporting side of Team Liquid.

This tournament keeps on giving with these unpredictable series and the networth leads don't matter as much when it all goes down to who has the better draft and execution in the late game.

Anyway this tournament continues to be much harder for me to call then the ones before. Whenever I am thinking somebody should win easy they loose at least a map and when I think it will be a close match it ends 2:0. I was sure PSG.LGD and EG would take at least one map yesterday and I thought GG should do it clean and they were almost out.
I'm also having a bad time betting in the playoffs as I thought the 9 Pandas vs Team Secret series would go to three maps and then it goes 2-0 for 9 Pandas.
Happened again in the last game BetBoom had all three maps in their pocket and managed to loose at the end. Killing my ticket in the process and proving once again this tournament is better skipped when betting.

That being said Liquid and BetBoom series were totally wild and I am really happy I managed to watch most of it, especially that Zai move to secure Liquid win.
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They knew already brood capability on quick destroying their barracks since Zai is the one who clean their base with split pushes. They become over confident with their win on the clash and even Liquid didn’t knows exactly that Zai can make it.
On top of that, Talon used their fortification for the team fight leaving the base exposed and it all came down to the TP cancels that came in clutch from the supporting side of Team Liquid.

This tournament keeps on giving with these unpredictable series and the networth leads don't matter as much when it all goes down to who has the better draft and execution in the late game.
That was a hype and intense base race and I think that I saw that fortification on Gorgc's stream that some comments of viewers did since the camera where I have watched on stream didn't focused on that mistake.

I think it was jabz that pressed it when he's typing something. Props to Boxi and insania for stopping, prolonging and cancelling the tp's of Talon.

23savage celebrated too early, a lesson learnde from him.
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IEM Cologne Play-in matches are going on. I saw NIP quite weak against MOUZ interestingly. They have been a better team than MOUZ so far. I thought that they would win the series by 2-1. But they couldn't even resist MOUZ much on especially the second map. There is another chance for NIP still.

They are going to face Imperial. Truthfully Imperial are no different than MOUZ when we look at their placement in rankings. However Imperial's recent form has been impressive. They even defeated Vitality in a BO3 series not a long time ago. They can show a really impressive team performance when they are fully concentrated.

NIP will be the favourite by bookmakers most probably but I'm thinking of giving Imperial a chance.  Smiley
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They knew already brood capability on quick destroying their barracks since Zai is the one who clean their base with split pushes. They become over confident with their win on the clash and even Liquid didn’t knows exactly that Zai can make it.
On top of that, Talon used their fortification for the team fight leaving the base exposed and it all came down to the TP cancels that came in clutch from the supporting side of Team Liquid.

This tournament keeps on giving with these unpredictable series and the networth leads don't matter as much when it all goes down to who has the better draft and execution in the late game.

Anyway this tournament continues to be much harder for me to call then the ones before. Whenever I am thinking somebody should win easy they loose at least a map and when I think it will be a close match it ends 2:0. I was sure PSG.LGD and EG would take at least one map yesterday and I thought GG should do it clean and they were almost out.
I'm also having a bad time betting in the playoffs as I thought the 9 Pandas vs Team Secret series would go to three maps and then it goes 2-0 for 9 Pandas.
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I am now with the Talon Esports and Team Liquid.

This match is on fire. I thought Talon will gonna lose game 2 against Team Liquid since 23Savage got a lot of early deaths and behind net worth but he is so good on recovering as if he doesn’t have a rough start. The game is now on game 3 and I believe Talon can get this reverse sweep after that last performance on game 2.

Micke Sven doesn’t contribute much damage because he can’t position properly due to Mars Arena and ET disables. What a nice game for Talon.

WTF just happened on Game 3 of this match, Talon ignored Zai while Mikoto can TP on the base and place remnant to return easily on enemy base. They completely disrespected broodmother pushing capabilities that cost them game which should be they got already if someone respo in their instead of GG push since Void and Pango is already without buyback.

I’m happy that Liquid but I’m just too confused on why Talon compete on broodma for base race.

It’s not that they are ignoring Zai but they taught that they have the advantage on base race because they have a complete team with Morph lock items. The support of Liquid just did a great job to give Zai some space to crash Talon base and the creeps works in favor with him since it spawn near him including the first batch that gives him massive spiderlings that helps him to demolish the ancient easily. If I’m not mistaken, He has refresher that he use to get those massive spiderlings quickly which Talon didn’t expected to happened.



They knew already brood capability on quick destroying their barracks since Zai is the one who clean their base with split pushes. They become over confident with their win on the clash and even Liquid didn’t knows exactly that Zai can make it.

I still think that they can win that fight if 2 heroes return to the base since they can easily wipe out those summons that provides a lot of building damage then come back to the Liquid throne to help others to continue the push. Nisha and Micke is down for almost 2 minutes win this base race happened. Liquid has no way to come back on this game if Talon just play safe and don’t play greedy in the end just to finish the game already.
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I am now with the Talon Esports and Team Liquid.

This match is on fire. I thought Talon will gonna lose game 2 against Team Liquid since 23Savage got a lot of early deaths and behind net worth but he is so good on recovering as if he doesn’t have a rough start. The game is now on game 3 and I believe Talon can get this reverse sweep after that last performance on game 2.

Micke Sven doesn’t contribute much damage because he can’t position properly due to Mars Arena and ET disables. What a nice game for Talon.

WTF just happened on Game 3 of this match, Talon ignored Zai while Mikoto can TP on the base and place remnant to return easily on enemy base. They completely disrespected broodmother pushing capabilities that cost them game which should be they got already if someone respo in their instead of GG push since Void and Pango is already without buyback.

I’m happy that Liquid but I’m just too confused on why Talon compete on broodma for base race.

It’s not that they are ignoring Zai but they taught that they have the advantage on base race because they have a complete team with Morph lock items. The support of Liquid just did a great job to give Zai some space to crash Talon base and the creeps works in favor with him since it spawn near him including the first batch that gives him massive spiderlings that helps him to demolish the ancient easily. If I’m not mistaken, He has refresher that he use to get those massive spiderlings quickly which Talon didn’t expected to happened.

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I am now with the Talon Esports and Team Liquid.

This match is on fire. I thought Talon will gonna lose game 2 against Team Liquid since 23Savage got a lot of early deaths and behind net worth but he is so good on recovering as if he doesn’t have a rough start. The game is now on game 3 and I believe Talon can get this reverse sweep after that last performance on game 2.

Micke Sven doesn’t contribute much damage because he can’t position properly due to Mars Arena and ET disables. What a nice game for Talon.

WTF just happened on Game 3 of this match, Talon ignored Zai while Mikoto can TP on the base and place remnant to return easily on enemy base. They completely disrespected broodmother pushing capabilities that cost them game which should be they got already if someone respo in their instead of GG push since Void and Pango is already without buyback.

I’m happy that Liquid but I’m just too confused on why Talon compete on broodma for base race.
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I am now with the Talon Esports and Team Liquid.

This match is on fire. I thought Talon will gonna lose game 2 against Team Liquid since 23Savage got a lot of early deaths and behind net worth but he is so good on recovering as if he doesn’t have a rough start. The game is now on game 3 and I believe Talon can get this reverse sweep after that last performance on game 2.

Micke Sven doesn’t contribute much damage because he can’t position properly due to Mars Arena and ET disables. What a nice game for Talon.
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Unfortunate loss on my over 2.5 as PSG.LGD played like trash in those two games.
I feel you. Their losses are unjustifiable. It's like they're not the usual PSG.LGD that we get to know. In the present, Team Secret is also out and lost to 9Pandas for two games.

I am now with the Talon Esports and Team Liquid.

This is just the first game and we've got the last series later which is BetBoom and Team Spirit.
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Betting on some upsets here considering it's a BO1 match.
6/8, decent and profitable calls finally Cheesy

I wonder how Apeks and monte will start their new roster this season. They were both teams that had a pretty good major.
Right. Probably won't see as good a result as major from them due to their roster change. Going against another top 20 teams would be competitive, but I don't think they could stand a chance against the likes of Heroic, Navi, and FaZe.

In my opinion, if Navi holds a chemistry and can provide a good flow, they will win the cup, but I can say that it depends on s1mple, it makes me think whether it will be compatible with the team.
I surely hope Navi can secure one spot at the playoff too. Finger crossed for them.



My picks for the second day. Secured that Mongolz upset earlier against ITB. Looks like ITB roster change was a bad move.
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This series might be the most action-packed series we have today unless Aster and EG could replicate that same intense series.

Nah, Aster was too good for EG. The prizepool is so silly though that any team that got eliminated wouldnt even feel bad about themselves with all those cash that they got from the playoff stage.
You can't say that. The size of the price pool arguably makes it even more important to progress further, every next step pays so much more that it could have put even more pressure on their shoulders.

Anyway this tournament continues to be much harder for me to call then the ones before. Whenever I am thinking somebody should win easy they loose at least a map and when I think it will be a close match it ends 2:0. I was sure PSG.LGD and EG would take at least one map yesterday and I thought GG should do it clean and they were almost out.
STT
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Fnatic is Krimz old school with 4 different nationalities, Australia, British, France and Denmark.  Globetrotter all stars Smiley   I think its a given they will need to develop their potential and teamwork but seem to be doing ok so far.
  I went with what I thought was simple multibet of Astralis and ITB but I might have rushed it as with new team arrangement its all a bit more risky.   Thats a really bad loss for ITB to a good team but still should be closer then that to maintain confidence going forward.  Even Astralis we'll have to see how well they holding up.   
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This series might be the most action-packed series we have today unless Aster and EG could replicate that same intense series.

Nah, Aster was too good for EG. The prizepool is so silly though that any team that got eliminated wouldnt even feel bad about themselves with all those cash that they got from the playoff stage.

Anyway, I personally think that this is going to be over 2.5 maps for all 3 games tomorrow. I would want to put -1.5 for 9pandas against Secret but sometimes Secret really surprise me so yeah its 2.5 maps for me
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IEM Cologne Play-in tournament has started.
NiP managed to comfortably defeat their opponent ITB on the ancient map. The NiP team played well as a team and seemed to have gotten used to each other.
Things are still not going well for the Mouz team. If Torzsi hadn't performed so well, they would have lost to the Mongols. Torzsi, who managed to get exactly 50 kills, managed to be the name that backed his team and they defeated their opponent in overtime.
Fnatic played their first official match with their new roster. Although they did not give a bad impression, they managed to win the match with mezii's good performance.
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