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Do you see guys what I am seeing right now? Talon is on the lead and destroyed all of the barracks of GG (mega creeps).

9-29 in favor of Talon for the kill/death. The game hasn't ended yet but the lead is on the Talon on this game 3.

For the very first time, there's going to be an elimination for the GG and they're going to be out of the tournament if ever they will lose against Talon.

Edit: Oh, they called it GG. WP for Talon!

Talon is just the better team on that game 3. They chained their skills perfectly that even naturally elusive heroes like Storm and Morphling didn't stand a chance. Dark Seer and CW just destroyed the safelane pretty heavily, and 23 savage with Oli also decimated the top lane with their aggressive laning phase.

Even if GG is out, that's still a huge money to be had.
Well, less than a day has passed and then Talon is out and outplayed by Team Liquid. I thought that they'll even make the match so close and on how they've made their first matches when zai snatched the game with his brood.

But not a while ago, Talon looked like kids that Team Liquid has played with and proved that if Talon was the better team on their game 3 against GG.

Well, Team Liquid was the better team and proved that they've beat them outrightly. Currently the finals is on game 2, I'm just amazed on how zai plays.

The game 1 of this grand finals he played naga siren as an offlane which is unusual because it's usually a position 1 hero but then, he's quick on farming with it and able to have a lot of items less than 30 minutes.

And you know what? again on game 2, he's playing with the same hero and if we're going to name zai an alias, it means consistency. Yes, he's again having those items and very consistent with his 2nd naga siren play.
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Unfortunately, they failed to counter the picks of Team Liquid. They had nothing that can deal with the bear of Lone Druid. I feel that their IO last pick should have been different. Maybe a hero that could counter the lone druid. When the IO came out, I know it is over.
Those two matches of Team Liquid and Talon looks too easy for Team Liquid. Maybe Talon was too exhausted against GG and they didn't have enough sleep.

Anyway, we're on the grand finals. Both teams have already secured millions of prize money and I am looking forward to see this tournament being owned by Team Liquid. We know that Team Spirit is also a TI champ but it's a different thing that Liquid got more fans.

Let's go Liquid!

Maybe Talon's role is to just eliminate the big dogs of the lower bracket and pave the way for Liquid to win the tournament. They successfully defeated GG, the raid boss of the recent tournaments, and have been kicked easily by Liquid. Much respect to Talon still for going so far, taking home $1.5M if I'm not mistaken. That game 2 would have been different if they picked a support that is more active in lane instead of enabling and just sustaining the core. That Io pick really is weird IMO.
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Unfortunately, they failed to counter the picks of Team Liquid. They had nothing that can deal with the bear of Lone Druid. I feel that their IO last pick should have been different. Maybe a hero that could counter the lone druid. When the IO came out, I know it is over.
Those two matches of Team Liquid and Talon looks too easy for Team Liquid. Maybe Talon was too exhausted against GG and they didn't have enough sleep.

The game 1 of TS and TL confirmed that Liquid is just too strong now after they demolished Team Spirit on game 1 with same manner they defeated Talon. Team Liquid is very aggressive in both drafts and lanes. This is a difficult Team Liquid which usually just farm lanes and just casually get a rotation.

Zai Naga Siren to steal yatoro hero is really worth it and monster. He dominates his lane which result for the enemy carry to become gap and unable to catch up even on mid game to late game.

Team Liquid is using different strategy since they was beaten down to lower bracket.
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Unfortunately, they failed to counter the picks of Team Liquid. They had nothing that can deal with the bear of Lone Druid. I feel that their IO last pick should have been different. Maybe a hero that could counter the lone druid. When the IO came out, I know it is over.
Those two matches of Team Liquid and Talon looks too easy for Team Liquid. Maybe Talon was too exhausted against GG and they didn't have enough sleep.

Anyway, we're on the grand finals. Both teams have already secured millions of prize money and I am looking forward to see this tournament being owned by Team Liquid. We know that Team Spirit is also a TI champ but it's a different thing that Liquid got more fans.

Let's go Liquid!
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Picking team Liquid to win it all tonight at Riyadh Master 2023.



As a solid fan of team liquid, Your pick is 100% approved to me.  Cheesy I think Team Liquid can manage to take down Team Spirit since their last fight is very close and Liquid has a chance to close the game on game 2 that time if they didn't commit error on the portal.

Stake odds for Liquid is high because I only get 1.77 odds using Megapari sportsbook. Good luck on our pick. Feels so good that someone here might share pain or happiness after this finals.

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For the Fnatic vs Cloud9 match, I think 2.6 odds for Fnatic is very interesting, considering their performance in the play-in stage and Cloud9 is playing with a substitute. I know the addition of Perfecto and Electronic could add to their firepower but this will be their first map together.
Spot on with this Fnatic call. Very close match but they got it in the end. Cloud9 would have won if they had Axile. Pretty disappointed with Navi performance though, that was not a playoff worthy team.

In addition, I can say that I find it surprising that the Mongolz team is pushing Heroic a lot.Heroic is really a team that is hard to stop lately and it is just strange that a team like Mongolz is pushing them.
Yeah Mongolz is the black horse team in this tournament. They have been playing well above expectations since the play-in stage, but taking a map off of Heroic and pushing them to double OT in the second map is just another new level. I hope they can get a spot in the playoff. Well deserved. Betting for them against GamerLegion, should be an easy one.



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I haven't been able to follow the recent transfers much, but teams have made some good signings, even amongst themselves.There is already the IEM Cologne tournament going on, which started yesterday.The only result that I don't see as normal amongst the matches played might be NaVi's loss to young MOUZ.Other than that, I can say that the results are not too surprising from my point of view.In addition, I can say that I find it surprising that the Mongolz team is pushing Heroic a lot.Heroic is really a team that is hard to stop lately and it is just strange that a team like Mongolz is pushing them.
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Talon seems the best team in Dota 2 right now even if Spirit showed some class again but the way Talon have played against GG was simply amazing and the confidence they currently have in drafting and team fights will most likely make them defeat Liquid as well and move in grand finals to face Spirit.  Grin Game is about to begin in about 1 hour from now and Liquid still has the first chance...after that rat dota style from Zai but I doubt Talon will fall for the same mistake again. Wink

Their luck runs out right now because team Liquid just eliminated them from Riyadh Master. They will still be enjoying the 1.7 Million USD their are taking home from the tournament as they finish third. Not bad for a weeks' worth of work. Team Liquid did not underestimate Talon and went out all in. Their series was nothing like the first match they had in the upper bracket. They disseminated Talon on the second map. Talon have no answer to the bear and they were eliminated 20+ minutes into the second map.



Team Liquid now earns the right for a rematch against Team Spirit in the Finals but now, they are on a Best of 5 series. I guess they eliminated Talon as fast as they could so they can rest and prepare for a bigger fight against team Spirit. They lost yesterday so this is a revenge for them, and they are doing it on the biggest stage. They have been on the Finals stage quite a few times this year but they were not able to claim the championship as GG were always knocking them out. This time it will be a different story. Will Team Liquid finally win the Finals?

Reverse sweep is still possible since Team Spirit did the same on Liquid on the Upper Bracket finals.   I still really feel that Talon can reverse sweep this because Liquid has a high tendency of choking whenever they are new to grand finals victory.

Unfortunately, they failed to counter the picks of Team Liquid. They had nothing that can deal with the bear of Lone Druid. I feel that their IO last pick should have been different. Maybe a hero that could counter the lone druid. When the IO came out, I know it is over.

Picking team Liquid to win it all tonight at Riyadh Master 2023.

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Talon seems the best team in Dota 2 right now even if Spirit showed some class again but the way Talon have played against GG was simply amazing and the confidence they currently have in drafting and team fights will most likely make them defeat Liquid as well and move in grand finals to face Spirit.  Grin Game is about to begin in about 1 hour from now and Liquid still has the first chance...after that rat dota style from Zai but I doubt Talon will fall for the same mistake again. Wink

Liquid already got 1 win against Talon. I didn't watch game 1 because it's too short and it was finish while I'm still just placing bet. Talon is really strong but I'm feeling that Liquid will try to dominate them hard now to have a convincing win and erase the doubt on their previous win against Talon.

Reverse sweep is still possible since Team Spirit did the same on Liquid on the Upper Bracket finals.   I still really feel that Talon can reverse sweep this because Liquid has a high tendency of choking whenever they are new to grand finals victory.
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Without any doubts , yesterday was one of the best days of Dota2 this year and the fact that Talon lost in that way really made me sad because that team deserves to win a Major man...they really do. For Liquid , what can you say? the luck was with them on that throne vs throne match up.

Talon deserves the loss yesterday because they let their defense off guard even though the throne is not yet finished while there’s still enemy team alive. 23Savage is already jumping away from his PC on the behind the scene photo after they kill the 2 core hero of Liquid. This explains a lot why they didn’t notice that Zai is destroying their ancient while Liquid throne is on glyphs of fortification.

Talon is a good team but a mistake like this cost them a lot for securing much higher reward. Now they will need to compete on GG or 9Panda which is a very tough enemy to deal with.

Do you mean this image?



I didn't watch the live game but watching the replay makes me get why they are excited. They finally close the game by killing the enemy hitters while they have complete heroes with expose throne. That moment is indeed a GG call game if zai didn't think that sneaky ancient segway. Emotion is very high on competitive scene like this.

Try to watch this, this is the meme right now in the dota 2 community, actually savage doing right there is to make a simple trash-talk to make a hype wit their team but the mistake right here is he made a TP in the ancient and they don't know that the rubick stole a good avalanche that make them cancel the 2 tp of tiny and morp, Zai make a really good move because he rat the throne, the mistake right here is 23Savage didn't make a bkb first before TP reason to cancel, this serves a lesson now to Talon to have an early celebration. Many memes shows up a picture before the disaster.
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Talon seems the best team in Dota 2 right now even if Spirit showed some class again but the way Talon have played against GG was simply amazing and the confidence they currently have in drafting and team fights will most likely make them defeat Liquid as well and move in grand finals to face Spirit.  Grin Game is about to begin in about 1 hour from now and Liquid still has the first chance...after that rat dota style from Zai but I doubt Talon will fall for the same mistake again. Wink
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Do you see guys what I am seeing right now? Talon is on the lead and destroyed all of the barracks of GG (mega creeps).

9-29 in favor of Talon for the kill/death. The game hasn't ended yet but the lead is on the Talon on this game 3.

For the very first time, there's going to be an elimination for the GG and they're going to be out of the tournament if ever they will lose against Talon.

Edit: Oh, they called it GG. WP for Talon!

Talon is just the better team on that game 3. They chained their skills perfectly that even naturally elusive heroes like Storm and Morphling didn't stand a chance. Dark Seer and CW just destroyed the safelane pretty heavily, and 23 savage with Oli also decimated the top lane with their aggressive laning phase.

Even if GG is out, that's still a huge money to be had.

It is a perfect game for Talon. They have tons of disable in that map that they are able to kill Storm because they are layering their stuns perfectly. They are active on the map and every rotation they make always ends up a kill on a core of Gaimin Gladiators. Once I saw that, I know that it is already a good game for Gaimin Gladiators. They have no answer to the good plays that 23savage is doing.

Talon is really doing really well in Riyadh Masters.  They are now assured of $1.7 million. The next stop is against Team Liquid in about 3 hours.

This is a rematch of their upper-bracket match. In that match, Talon almost got the win against Team Liquid when they won the last team clash, but they failed to see that Zai was destroying their base. It turned into a base race but Broodmother is really fast in destroying buildings. 23Savage was emotionally destroyed after that especially since he celebrated too early in that map. It is now his chance to return the favor to Team Liquid. With how perfect they are playing; they have a chance to take the series away from Team Liquid and move on to the Finals against Team Spirit.



I am hoping the same thing will happen in this series. It will be a close series and no one will back down. Hopefully, this one will also be a full 3 maps, so I am betting on over 2.5 maps.

I really do not know which team will win the lower bracket finals since they are equally matched. I really think the upper-bracket series these two teams had could go either way. I think it is safer to bet on over than on the match winner. But I hope Talon gets the win. We already saw that Team Spirit can beat Team Liquid easily. So maybe Talon will give us a better Finals matchup against Team Spirit. I think this is the farthest I have seen them in a tournament so I wish they could go all the way to the finals.

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Do you see guys what I am seeing right now? Talon is on the lead and destroyed all of the barracks of GG (mega creeps).

9-29 in favor of Talon for the kill/death. The game hasn't ended yet but the lead is on the Talon on this game 3.

For the very first time, there's going to be an elimination for the GG and they're going to be out of the tournament if ever they will lose against Talon.

Edit: Oh, they called it GG. WP for Talon!

Talon is just the better team on that game 3. They chained their skills perfectly that even naturally elusive heroes like Storm and Morphling didn't stand a chance. Dark Seer and CW just destroyed the safelane pretty heavily, and 23 savage with Oli also decimated the top lane with their aggressive laning phase.

Even if GG is out, that's still a huge money to be had.
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Do you see guys what I am seeing right now? Talon is on the lead and destroyed all of the barracks of GG (mega creeps).

9-29 in favor of Talon for the kill/death. The game hasn't ended yet but the lead is on the Talon on this game 3.

For the very first time, there's going to be an elimination for the GG and they're going to be out of the tournament if ever they will lose against Talon.

Edit: Oh, they called it GG. WP for Talon!
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I think Team Liquid is on different level right now on this tournament. They drastically improved their team fight and they have better item choices on their match against Team Spirit. Yatoro Naga is really strong and annoying on the game 1 but Team Liquid stay cool to make them focus to their goal despite the pressure coming from Yatoro illusion all over their base while Liquid is doing team fight.

And now the game is even, Yatoro finally gave liquid a strong finish with his Slark. Liquid mistake on the portal just to get Rosh cause them to loss the game because they gave too much stacks attribute to Slark when they teleport 1 by 1 and still continue the team fight even they are out position.

They should just give up the rosh that time when techies got first killed yet they still continue the teleport for the clash. Liquid starting to crumble here against TS.

I though Liquid got this yet they seems out of focus after they game 2 lose which makes them unable to recover for game 3. Lower Bracket is very bad spot for them because of GG/Talon that is too strong because of the momentum. They barely defeat both GG and Talon on upper bracket so I'm sure that whoever they fight will be eager to revenge against them. Team Spirit is so strong on this tournament.
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I think Team Liquid is on different level right now on this tournament. They drastically improved their team fight and they have better item choices on their match against Team Spirit. Yatoro Naga is really strong and annoying on the game 1 but Team Liquid stay cool to make them focus to their goal despite the pressure coming from Yatoro illusion all over their base while Liquid is doing team fight.

And now the game is even, Yatoro finally gave liquid a strong finish with his Slark. Liquid mistake on the portal just to get Rosh cause them to loss the game because they gave too much stacks attribute to Slark when they teleport 1 by 1 and still continue the team fight even they are out position.

They should just give up the rosh that time when techies got first killed yet they still continue the teleport for the clash. Liquid starting to crumble here against TS.
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I think Team Liquid is on different level right now on this tournament. They drastically improved their team fight and they have better item choices on their match against Team Spirit. Yatoro Naga is really strong and annoying on the game 1 but Team Liquid stay cool to make them focus to their goal despite the pressure coming from Yatoro illusion all over their base while Liquid is doing team fight.

Zai clutch arena and Nisha super tanky DK makes liquid unkillable despite TS hava good setup for the team fight.
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Whilst, 9Pandas are out together with its co-EEU team BetBoom. Both of these teams will take home $800k. Still not bad for that placing.

Well its not bad for 9 pandas because I do know that they are not really capable of advancing further thus winning $800k is so much better for them, in this case its 4x of winning the 1st prize in Major.
They've got the prize and at the same time, they're secured in the TI. So, that means money everywhere for them but it's a good motivation that they must do better in TI for a higher prize money.

As for BB, too bad though as I thought they are the only capable team of winning against GG but I guess GG is going to sweep this tournament too by winning the 1st spot
Many of us thought that they'll be the one to beat GG because no doubt that BB is a strong team and one of the contenders there. On how thrilling they are especially on what went with the Bali major.

Still, all good for these teams and they've got more time in preparation and relaxation before the TI comes.
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Whilst, 9Pandas are out together with its co-EEU team BetBoom. Both of these teams will take home $800k. Still not bad for that placing.

Well its not bad for 9 pandas because I do know that they are not really capable of advancing further thus winning $800k is so much better for them, in this case its 4x of winning the 1st prize in Major. As for BB, too bad though as I thought they are the only capable team of winning against GG but I guess GG is going to sweep this tournament too by winning the 1st spot



Anyone fancy taking GG -1.5 against Talon? or over 2.5 maps on Liquid vs Team Spirit
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Now , I love Talon and 23savage but I think 9Pandas with Kyotaka Invoker have a great combo and synergy against GG and their medusa so I do hope 9pandas will win and face them later on today because GG must be eliminated as I don't want see watch another Liquid vs GG final because we already had 3 this year. Undecided
Welp, Talon Esports just swept 9Pandas, ez 2-0 for them. So, it's going to be Talon and GG later on. While waiting for that game, we've got also interesting match up coming. Team Liquid and Team Spirit.

I just hope when the match of GG and Talon comes, it's going to be that close against Team Liquid and great performance on how they did against 9Pandas.

Whilst, 9Pandas are out together with its co-EEU team BetBoom. Both of these teams will take home $800k. Still not bad for that placing.
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