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legendary
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It looks like BetBoom and Team Aster might be the strongest teams so far in Riyadh Masters but I do have faith that Talon will secure 2nd map against Aster and made them bleed a bit because since Kaka joined Aster , this team is looking a lot more powerful and disciplined during the draft and also the fights.  Smiley
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Meanwhile, hoping for Team Secret to make it to the next stage. These coming games against 9 Pandas won't be easy though. A lot of ties in the groups, I thought there are tie-breaker rules but I cannot find them.

They made it and the ties were settled by the match decider games though. It was pretty close for Team Secret but there was no doubt that they were going to make it considering that they were only playing against Execration. These teams are so bad on all Majors and International tournament that they dont really deserve all those spot



Picked these two earlier, Im confident with GG but PSG.LGD is way better than OG as well



Execration is like a bonus in every major and big tournament now. Still, it was surprising that they were able to steal a single map. Good thing for Team Secret to qualify but after 2 straight defeats, I am feeling they are done already.

Nice win by your LGD bet. It was the last that I expected to win. And here comes the GG's play style. I don't know but I felt like they are not yet giving their best. Good thing I refrain from betting on GG's series contrary to what my brother is doing. I focused on betting BetBoom's series, these guys are ruthless and they are my best pick to give GG a run for their money. Too bad my winnings are not yet enough to cover my losses on Team Secret. Cheesy
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If TA win rate isnt good for this season then why would really be trying out to pick it out but with the current map then its a huge space for farming but with the recent stat change or skills change
then its not shocking to have those degrade performance.
If I'll be the one to go for TA, I'll make sure that it's going to be a fast and mid-game. It can't stand on the mid-game if it's not yet finished. Supports can micro TA easily and if it's the position 1 of a team, it's easy for them to just lose the game. I think that the entire teams just need to see someone again play a TA at his best. I saw Quinn play a mid-TA but I think that it's not yet the best that I've seen so far this season. There are too many counters for TA lately and a perfect game play needs to have if a team wants to pick it.
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I saw how ramzes became titled against Team Secret. Although the match ended up with a 1-1 but the first game was too easy for Team Secret and it's just like 15 minutes of game when ramzes have been continued to get killed. With the last one at the top lane of radiant, he got killed again and then typed good game well played and then disconnected.

On the otherhand, VP has already farewelled to the Riyadh and 9pandas are going to continue on the group stage. Ready your pockets boys, later we'll see the rumble from other teams as well including GG, Talon, PSG.LGD, SR and others.
Really though tournament to call out so far for me, hopefully things will get better from today. There is a couple of nice odds, mainly PSG and GG to win their first games today. I just hate it that it is BO2 games but that is why the odds are good.

Need to save my money for brackets and when we get BO3 but I couldn't resist placing some bets today as well.
I've just lost on the first map of OG and 9Pandas. Well, the early run of OG did well but then, kiyotaka's windranger was too brave enough to be the frontliner.

The game was actually good and all action not until ramzes' Alchemist got enough farm and helped with aghs for their doom and there goes the history.

It was a fun watch though with all of those early clashes.
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This weekend the single elimination brackets are happening in the Blast PRemier Fall tournament. A big surprise this season was BIG beating Astralis 2-1 and OG 2-1, as one of my favourite teams I am glad to see them suceed and go far. The first match today is going to be Evil Geniuses against G2, which should be an easy win for G2. They are a much stronger team and in a best of 3 match there shouldn't be any suprises. After beating EG today they are going to face NaVi tomorrow and need to win to not go to the showdown matches. NaVi has been struggling a bit lately and I would expect to G2 to win that match aswell. The second match will be Team Liquid vs Astralis, which is going to be a close match. Team Liquid is a bit stronger and should win here, but the two teams are also facing each other in the IEM Cologne 2023 Play-Ins, so there is going to be a lot of competition. Tomorrow BIG is going to face Vitality which is probably going to end the run of BIG. Vitality is still ranked #2 in the world and should have no problem beating BIG, the two teams played each other in Rio and Vitality won 2-0 without trouble. I am going to place a small bet on BIG just in case they can make their run continue, it would definitely be a nice payout for such a huge surprise.
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In the Astralis-Complexity match, Astralis won the match easily with the obvious performance difference of blameF and Dev1ce.elige may be a good transfer for Complexity, but there is almost no one to help elige in terms of performance throughout the team and therefore it would be ridiculous to expect more success in such tournaments.I think Astralis has built a good roster and I expect them to be better in the future as they are below their potential at the moment.
In the other match of the day, BIG won in the BIG-OG match and frankly I was not surprised.OG has formed a mixed team again and it will take time for these players to get used to each other.Former BIG player k1to contributed the most frag among them, but we can say that they still lost by a small margin.In BIG, with 2 players from the academy team, the team roster seems to be slightly settled.We can say that Mantuu also performed well against his former team.
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Their chase on the bottom without a black hole is hilarious. What the fracas is with the OG draft? seriously?
Their draft heavily relied on snowballing in the early game, that's why they had to make some moves, but it backfired. Drafts with TA haven't been that great and might be a good indicator to bet against as she's one of the most picked heroes but only has a 29% win rate.

On the bright side, they bounced back in the second game with the same draft (Slark, Windranger, and Enigma) they used against Entity yesterday.

TA on this patch is no longer like TA on the previous one. It relies heavily on farming and getting as much space in the map as possible to flash farm in either a Desolator or a Dagger, not unlike before that she can join fights even with a treads and a Dragon Lance so long as they have the means to disable or to catch the opponents. I think it's a good change though, because the dynamics of the game changes and the meta shifts, so those who can really keep up with the wonkiness of the patch will be the ones who will come out at top. OG isn't as good as they are before, because their aggressiveness is oftentimes rewarded with a lot of negative swings on the net worth in favor of the enemy.
Nothing beats out to those OG's of OG team before which i do talk about Notail,Ana,Jerax,Ceb,Topson but with the current roster then i could say that it would really be never the same. In speaking about patches and
changes then its not really that a solid reason for it to be blamed out because it is really that equal or applied to everybody and there's no exemption to that, even with the slightest stat change or skills CD would definitely
make out some impact. If TA win rate isnt good for this season then why would really be trying out to pick it out but with the current map then its a huge space for farming but with the recent stat change or skills change
then its not shocking to have those degrade performance.

Stats are one thing, meta change is another. TA is performing poorly in stats recently because the meta isn't really suited to her playstyle. OG and other teams who keep pushing in using this hero is punished hard because the flash farm - invade strategy doesn't work in this big of a map. I agree that it really is OG's fault for continuing to use an obvious lackluster hero in this patch because not only is the hero's stats decreased, she also sucks in getting objectives aside from 5-man tower pushing, which definitely is useless in the early game as they're wasting resources on a huge part of the map.
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Their chase on the bottom without a black hole is hilarious. What the fracas is with the OG draft? seriously?
Their draft heavily relied on snowballing in the early game, that's why they had to make some moves, but it backfired. Drafts with TA haven't been that great and might be a good indicator to bet against as she's one of the most picked heroes but only has a 29% win rate.

On the bright side, they bounced back in the second game with the same draft (Slark, Windranger, and Enigma) they used against Entity yesterday.

TA on this patch is no longer like TA on the previous one. It relies heavily on farming and getting as much space in the map as possible to flash farm in either a Desolator or a Dagger, not unlike before that she can join fights even with a treads and a Dragon Lance so long as they have the means to disable or to catch the opponents. I think it's a good change though, because the dynamics of the game changes and the meta shifts, so those who can really keep up with the wonkiness of the patch will be the ones who will come out at top. OG isn't as good as they are before, because their aggressiveness is oftentimes rewarded with a lot of negative swings on the net worth in favor of the enemy.
Nothing beats out to those OG's of OG team before which i do talk about Notail,Ana,Jerax,Ceb,Topson but with the current roster then i could say that it would really be never the same. In speaking about patches and
changes then its not really that a solid reason for it to be blamed out because it is really that equal or applied to everybody and there's no exemption to that, even with the slightest stat change or skills CD would definitely
make out some impact. If TA win rate isnt good for this season then why would really be trying out to pick it out but with the current map then its a huge space for farming but with the recent stat change or skills change
then its not shocking to have those degrade performance.
legendary
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Their chase on the bottom without a black hole is hilarious. What the fracas is with the OG draft? seriously?
Their draft heavily relied on snowballing in the early game, that's why they had to make some moves, but it backfired. Drafts with TA haven't been that great and might be a good indicator to bet against as she's one of the most picked heroes but only has a 29% win rate.

On the bright side, they bounced back in the second game with the same draft (Slark, Windranger, and Enigma) they used against Entity yesterday.

TA on this patch is no longer like TA on the previous one. It relies heavily on farming and getting as much space in the map as possible to flash farm in either a Desolator or a Dagger, not unlike before that she can join fights even with a treads and a Dragon Lance so long as they have the means to disable or to catch the opponents. I think it's a good change though, because the dynamics of the game changes and the meta shifts, so those who can really keep up with the wonkiness of the patch will be the ones who will come out at top. OG isn't as good as they are before, because their aggressiveness is oftentimes rewarded with a lot of negative swings on the net worth in favor of the enemy.
legendary
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Watching OG now in a big tournament makes me think, why they are still competing at the Division 1 level. They look like a Division 3 team against XG.

This is an accurate representation of what Nigma fans used to feel when they watched Nigma played back then. Some teams are falling apart for sure especially those huge name like Nigma, Team Secret, Alliance and even now OG and fans are not really used to watch these top teams falling apart on international stage like this so yeah



Betboom against Liquid tomorrow, this is going to be huge. Im personally betting on BB to win, waiting for better odds tomorrow
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Their chase on the bottom without a black hole is hilarious. What the fracas is with the OG draft? seriously?
Their draft heavily relied on snowballing in the early game, that's why they had to make some moves, but it backfired. Drafts with TA haven't been that great and might be a good indicator to bet against as she's one of the most picked heroes but only has a 29% win rate.
This is correct since they have DK, They are actually having a good start until BZM started to giveaway free kills on the mid many times by disrespecting meepo capability to hold and burst him down despite his tanky hero. It's very hard to counter Meepo late game without bursting it because of the digging skill from shard that is so OP to cover meepo.


On the bright side, they bounced back in the second game with the same draft (Slark, Windranger, and Enigma) they used against Entity yesterday.

I didn't watch the game anymore because I'm already upset about their performance. I'm so happy that they manage to get 1 game to make my over +1.5 for them to win. I just read my comment that is full of bias due to my losing bets. Haha
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Their chase on the bottom without a black hole is hilarious. What the fracas is with the OG draft? seriously?
Their draft heavily relied on snowballing in the early game, that's why they had to make some moves, but it backfired. Drafts with TA haven't been that great and might be a good indicator to bet against as she's one of the most picked heroes but only has a 29% win rate.

On the bright side, they bounced back in the second game with the same draft (Slark, Windranger, and Enigma) they used against Entity yesterday.
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Just to give an update, four teams have already said their goodbye that early to the Riyadh Masters. And these are the teams:
Beastcoast should've been one of the few teams that advanced, but their form isn't the same as it used to be. Entity was a bit promising after the first day, but they're unlucky to face OG over Beastcoast in the deciders.
I agree.

I was expecting that these two teams will stay further on Riyadh but they're not in the best form. Like for beastcoast, I thought that they'll have the same performance as what they've got in the Bali but then, they've been defeated straight 2 games by TSM.

While for Entity, they've got a promising start but then they finished so fast. I read something of what fishman said that they're quite confident and they got lack of communication, so we know now the reasons.

Hopefully, they'll be in best form during the TI qualifier.
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Watching OG now in a big tournament makes me think, why they are still competing at the Division 1 level. They look like a Division 3 team against XG. Supports don't know what they are doing and just dying without a goal while B EZ M turns out to become a feeder due to his aggressiveness for nothing.

Their chase on the bottom without a black hole is hilarious. What the fracas is with the OG draft? seriously?
legendary
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I had hopes that GG won't look as dominant as it did in the last Majors but heh , they are stronger than ever and now they have new heroes in their "meta" like Razor and Sven ? This 2 heroes needs a lot of items before they can produce power but even with that , GG still founds a way to find quick farm ,put items and then dominate the entire map.

Now , I'm curious how Talon will perform because they are currently my favorite team and they are playing against Secret in about 1 hour.  Cool
Gaming drew their 1st match up with Team Spirit. Sven can come back to the meta but needs the right game. He can be easily kited. He is the fastest farmer in game with the cleave and hence has to be 1-2 items always ahead to win. 23 savage is really good, I hope Talon put on a good show as well.

Well yes , Sven needs a perfect initiation in order to carry the team fights and we saw today that it ain't easy and most likely will fall out of meta again.

23 savage is the god of carry players right now and I hope Talon will be able to give him a perfect Major this time and reach the finals because this team deserves a lot more respect that it currently has.  Cool
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Game 1 between 9panda and VP on Riyadh Master is very intense match. Ramzes hard carrying his team the whole game and it just ended with 1 mistake which is he over protect chen that result them a game. I don't understand why he keeps on the front line while the Chen is already save in the backlines. He thinks he can 4v1 the enemy team while there's a doom on the opponent side.

I thought they will have a very good comeback but Ramzes once again choke. He is good on farming his items but sometimes failed on decision making when they are already catching up the enemy. Game 2 on the way. I think Kiyotaka needs to step since he is a complete useless the whole game.
I saw how ramzes became titled against Team Secret. Although the match ended up with a 1-1 but the first game was too easy for Team Secret and it's just like 15 minutes of game when ramzes have been continued to get killed. With the last one at the top lane of radiant, he got killed again and then typed good game well played and then disconnected.

On the otherhand, VP has already farewelled to the Riyadh and 9pandas are going to continue on the group stage. Ready your pockets boys, later we'll see the rumble from other teams as well including GG, Talon, PSG.LGD, SR and others.
Really though tournament to call out so far for me, hopefully things will get better from today. There is a couple of nice odds, mainly PSG and GG to win their first games today. I just hate it that it is BO2 games but that is why the odds are good.

Need to save my money for brackets and when we get BO3 but I couldn't resist placing some bets today as well.

GG seems shaky again which is usual on a tournament that doesn't have DPC points. I'm expecting that they can 2-0 TS but they are having a hard time closing the game on TS which results in a late game on both games. I might consider betting 2-0 against GG on the bottom team that is not in their same region because they always get their lose on the weakest team during the group stage with or without their dominant performance.
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I had hopes that GG won't look as dominant as it did in the last Majors but heh , they are stronger than ever and now they have new heroes in their "meta" like Razor and Sven ? This 2 heroes needs a lot of items before they can produce power but even with that , GG still founds a way to find quick farm ,put items and then dominate the entire map.

Now , I'm curious how Talon will perform because they are currently my favorite team and they are playing against Secret in about 1 hour.  Cool
Gaming drew their 1st match up with Team Spirit. Sven can come back to the meta but needs the right game. He can be easily kited. He is the fastest farmer in game with the cleave and hence has to be 1-2 items always ahead to win. 23 savage is really good, I hope Talon put on a good show as well.
legendary
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I had hopes that GG won't look as dominant as it did in the last Majors but heh , they are stronger than ever and now they have new heroes in their "meta" like Razor and Sven ? This 2 heroes needs a lot of items before they can produce power but even with that , GG still founds a way to find quick farm ,put items and then dominate the entire map.

Now , I'm curious how Talon will perform because they are currently my favorite team and they are playing against Secret in about 1 hour.  Cool
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Game 1 between 9panda and VP on Riyadh Master is very intense match. Ramzes hard carrying his team the whole game and it just ended with 1 mistake which is he over protect chen that result them a game. I don't understand why he keeps on the front line while the Chen is already save in the backlines. He thinks he can 4v1 the enemy team while there's a doom on the opponent side.

I thought they will have a very good comeback but Ramzes once again choke. He is good on farming his items but sometimes failed on decision making when they are already catching up the enemy. Game 2 on the way. I think Kiyotaka needs to step since he is a complete useless the whole game.
I saw how ramzes became titled against Team Secret. Although the match ended up with a 1-1 but the first game was too easy for Team Secret and it's just like 15 minutes of game when ramzes have been continued to get killed. With the last one at the top lane of radiant, he got killed again and then typed good game well played and then disconnected.

On the otherhand, VP has already farewelled to the Riyadh and 9pandas are going to continue on the group stage. Ready your pockets boys, later we'll see the rumble from other teams as well including GG, Talon, PSG.LGD, SR and others.
Really though tournament to call out so far for me, hopefully things will get better from today. There is a couple of nice odds, mainly PSG and GG to win their first games today. I just hate it that it is BO2 games but that is why the odds are good.

Need to save my money for brackets and when we get BO3 but I couldn't resist placing some bets today as well.
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Game 1 between 9panda and VP on Riyadh Master is very intense match. Ramzes hard carrying his team the whole game and it just ended with 1 mistake which is he over protect chen that result them a game. I don't understand why he keeps on the front line while the Chen is already save in the backlines. He thinks he can 4v1 the enemy team while there's a doom on the opponent side.

I thought they will have a very good comeback but Ramzes once again choke. He is good on farming his items but sometimes failed on decision making when they are already catching up the enemy. Game 2 on the way. I think Kiyotaka needs to step since he is a complete useless the whole game.
I saw how ramzes became titled against Team Secret. Although the match ended up with a 1-1 but the first game was too easy for Team Secret and it's just like 15 minutes of game when ramzes have been continued to get killed. With the last one at the top lane of radiant, he got killed again and then typed good game well played and then disconnected.

On the otherhand, VP has already farewelled to the Riyadh and 9pandas are going to continue on the group stage. Ready your pockets boys, later we'll see the rumble from other teams as well including GG, Talon, PSG.LGD, SR and others.
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